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Post# 112649   3/1/2006 at 08:22 (6,630 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Just saw this!!

www.sears.com/sr/javasr/dpp.doQUE...




Post# 112650 , Reply# 1   3/1/2006 at 08:24 (6,630 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Oops- Try this.

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Post# 112664 , Reply# 2   3/1/2006 at 09:12 (6,630 days old) by deeptub (Carbondale, IL)        

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I saw these at Sears over the weekend. The tub seems even more huge in person. I can't believe they actually call it "Canyon Capacity". Apart from being cartoonish, it doesn't bring to mind a clean place to do laundry.

Oh well.
T.

Post# 112665 , Reply# 3   3/1/2006 at 09:29 (6,630 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 As Bri would say.

(GASP!) OMIGOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll just have to see this in person.

That looks like the washer of the angels.

Post# 112667 , Reply# 4   3/1/2006 at 09:31 (6,630 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

And look at the little kid looking into the washer! That just melts my heart. A new generation of washer enthusiasts. It's about time we get window lids.

Post# 112670 , Reply# 5   3/1/2006 at 10:04 (6,630 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Prices

 White Oasis HE WITHOUT the window :-( $949 : Watch out! This doesn't have a window
White with window lid $1099
Black or blue with window $1199

Dryers are a little less and all have windows.

OMG! OMG! OMG!

And it's my favorite brand, KENMORE of all things. But does Whirlpool make these are is it some Chinese brand?

Post# 112693 , Reply# 6   3/1/2006 at 12:45 (6,629 days old) by agiflow ()        

I would hazzard a guess and say this is Whirlpool's doing...you can bet that Whirly will follow close behind with their own version(s)...Magic clean would know for sure.

Looks like the days of porcelain on steel washtubs is definitely numbered.

Post# 112697 , Reply# 7   3/1/2006 at 13:29 (6,629 days old) by agiflow ()        

I wish they had a shot of one with the conventional agitator.

Post# 112699 , Reply# 8   3/1/2006 at 14:25 (6,629 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Pat, I agree they definitely need to put a picture of the agitator on their website.

Jason, the cheapest Oasis dryer doesn't have a window.

Post# 112720 , Reply# 9   3/1/2006 at 15:39 (6,629 days old) by agiflow ()        

Well boys and girls, i just got back from my local sears and they had ALL THREE of the new Oasis machines! These are definitely F&P influenced, but more robust with more steel and not nearly as plasticky.

The SS washtubs feel pretty durable compared to what GE uses in their things. Of course i didn't get a chance to hang out long, but i was really more interested in the conventional agi machine.

The lowest priced one uses the familiar corckscrew top, but the base was pretty wide and had fins reminicent (sp?) of the old Maytag gyrators. I am wondering if these are like the F&P models with no tranny.

Anyhow, they are not kidding about the capacity, these things are HUGE inside. I would have asked more questions but i got that "look" when the sales guy knows you are not there to buy.

I asked the guy if the agitator model was going to replace the current "elite" line. His reply was that it would be in addition to the current line, so we shall see what happens over time i guess.

I actually like the looks of these new machines, but i wonder if they will have the longevity that WP has established over the years with the DD machines.

Post# 112728 , Reply# 10   3/1/2006 at 16:14 (6,629 days old) by agiflow ()        

Jason,..i agree also about the little kid looking into the washer and dryer. Totally fascinated!!

Does anyone here think that these new oasis models look a little like Robert's 52 WP? I think it is the thick top that does it. LOL

Post# 112736 , Reply# 11   3/1/2006 at 16:46 (6,629 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
We're in the second golden age

 New ways to wash and different mechanisms, a departure from the stale corkscrew agitator in a plastic tub.

I definitely want a black set. The black color offsets the tinted window and gives good contrast to the white and steel interior.

But.... WHY DOES THE WINDOW HAVE TO BE TINTED?

Pizza, tunes, and the Oasis. Friday nights will return soon!

Post# 112757 , Reply# 12   3/1/2006 at 17:50 (6,629 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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They are made by Whirlpool themselves!!!

Post# 112759 , Reply# 13   3/1/2006 at 17:56 (6,629 days old) by agiflow ()        

Yes Bob they are. Tubs and motors courtesy of F&P.

Post# 112766 , Reply# 14   3/1/2006 at 19:04 (6,629 days old) by arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)        
Arrrooohhh indeed!

 This washing machine is so sexy!

I love it love it love it.

Im off for a cold shower.

Post# 112790 , Reply# 15   3/1/2006 at 21:20 (6,629 days old) by brent-aucoin ()        

Wow!
That is such a very interesting looking pair!
I bet this one will do well.
To be able to see your top loader do the job, yea, this will be a winner.
Brent

Post# 112791 , Reply# 16   3/1/2006 at 21:23 (6,629 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I got it from the horses mouth last night (Leslie) the tubs are made by Whirlpool in Clyde!!!

Post# 112845 , Reply# 17   3/2/2006 at 01:37 (6,629 days old) by agiflow ()        

Thanks Bob.

Post# 112850 , Reply# 18   3/2/2006 at 03:50 (6,629 days old) by knitwits1975 ()        

When the Kenmore He3t was introduced, I believe it was introduced in May of 2001 and the Whirlpool counterpart Duet followed in November 2001. So if the same case is true with the Oasis, we can probably expect Whirlpool's own version to hit the retailers in about August. I like this machine. Is this an American made machine like the Calypso or an import like the Duet and HE lineup (which are German made). I'll also bet this will replace the Calypso. I wonder if a KitchenAid version of the Oasis will follow suit. What a sweet spin that one will be.

Post# 112867 , Reply# 19   3/2/2006 at 07:12 (6,629 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jason, it's made at Whirlpool's Clyde facility. The HE3T was introduced August, 2001--I remember because a ton of us at the 2001 convention swooped down on Sears stores in Minneapolis so we could all see this big ol' thang. Sears never knew what hit them lol.

Post# 112881 , Reply# 20   3/2/2006 at 08:11 (6,629 days old) by varenovator ()        
WP has already announced their version

 WP has already announced their version of the Oasis, called Cabrio. I have seen no information that would explain the differences between the KM and WP versions.

Post# 112883 , Reply# 21   3/2/2006 at 09:04 (6,629 days old) by the7 ()        
Oasis with agitator 11027032600

 Oasis with agitator 11027032600
could be viewed from the parts diagram

CLICK HERE TO GO TO the7's LINK
Post# 112884 , Reply# 22   3/2/2006 at 09:08 (6,629 days old) by the7 ()        
Oasis with disk 11027062600

 Oasis with disk 11027062600
could be viewed from the parts diagram

CLICK HERE TO GO TO the7's LINK
Post# 112885 , Reply# 23   3/2/2006 at 09:10 (6,629 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Cabrio?

 Is it a convertible or a Mexican goat?

Well, if it enters my house it will wash topless.

They should call their current DD machines "CABRIO" because they eat whatever you put in them.

Post# 112890 , Reply# 24   3/2/2006 at 09:19 (6,629 days old) by the7 ()        
Agitator and Disk?

 Seems there are two different washing technique in Oasis.
Agitator and Disk.
Why make two types?
How would they compare?

Post# 112894 , Reply# 25   3/2/2006 at 09:48 (6,629 days old) by designgeek ()        

Windows: Sounds like someone at Sears is hanging out here:-) Or they saw the trend in Mexico & Brazil and thought it would be cool to do here.

Something on the website referred to "reverse rollover action." Does that mean up in the center and down at the circumference of the tub? How does it manage to do that?

Does Sears ever do sales demos where they would have these things in operation so one could observe?

Post# 112896 , Reply# 26   3/2/2006 at 10:22 (6,629 days old) by the7 ()        

Designgeek, I am totally concurred with you. How could these Oasis manage to do "reverse roller action"?

From the construction of these Oasis, the disk and agitator action will have a similar rollover action like a conventional agitator.

It seems that Oasis does not know what they write.

Post# 112911 , Reply# 27   3/2/2006 at 14:18 (6,628 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Concerning 'reverse rollover': I think they mean the impeller pulls (or rolls) the clothes over in first one direction, then it reverses and pulls them over the other way.

I don't see how they could do a 'center-to-the-outside' rollover unless those holes in the impeller somehow shoot water straight up with the force of a geyser, in which case I suppose it would be possible...theoretically.

Post# 112917 , Reply# 28   3/2/2006 at 15:06 (6,628 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Apparently nobody else has yet checked the details on that flash animation linked up in the first post. :-)

Reverse rollover means exactly what it says, according to the descriptions I've read. Clothes move UP the middle of the basket and DOWN the sides. I imagine that refers to the non-agitator models. Will be an interesting action to see. Being as the agitator is a corkscrew design, that model likely has a traditional up-the-sides-and-down-the-middle rollover ... unless the corkscrew also functions 'backwards.'

By the way, per the parts diagrams, the basket drive "clutch" is exactly the same as on my F&P GWL08 and IWL12, which means the basket floats upward when the machine fills to disengage from the drive, and settles back down to re-engage for spin .. which also means neutral drain.

Post# 112920 , Reply# 29   3/2/2006 at 15:20 (6,628 days old) by the7 ()        
Oasis has NO reverse rollover action?

 One "Oasis user" in another laundry wrote:
"The load is moved from the outside toward the middle with items coming up in the center and down on the outside edges."

It sounds that it is a "reverse rollover action" which is opposed to a conventional TL-agitator. But have great doubt about this "user" accuracy.

From the parts diagram, there are two pumps: one for drain and the other for recirculation/spray. There is no sign of such powerful jet action from any other pump.

Would not believe that Oasis has "reverse rollover action" unless it is proved by sight.

Post# 112964 , Reply# 30   3/2/2006 at 20:38 (6,628 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

I'm so getting this washer and dryer. You just watch.

Cottage gets built, Oasis set (and maybe a vintage Kenmore) goes in.

Post# 112969 , Reply# 31   3/2/2006 at 20:56 (6,628 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Reverse rollover is mentioned in the description text and details at Kenmore web site. Follow the link in the first post above, and look at all the detail points.

Post# 112971 , Reply# 32   3/2/2006 at 20:59 (6,628 days old) by agiflow ()        
Agitator and Disk?

Only my opinion! I think WP knows that many people still want a familiar agitator washing their clothes instead of a FL. Fl's need too many specifics to get what a TL machine can do in 40-45 minutes. I am not anti FL in any way...cool splash action. I applaud WP for doing what they doing.


Guys really who is left?

Post# 112994 , Reply# 33   3/2/2006 at 22:52 (6,628 days old) by the7 ()        
Two definitions of reverse rollover ?

 We have two definitions of "reverse rollover".

Does Oasis use the definition of frigilux or others?

Need jasonl to confirm?

Post# 112995 , Reply# 34   3/2/2006 at 22:53 (6,628 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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This is certainly a handsome w/d set; I want to find out if there is going to be a wrinkling/tangling issue with it, as there was with the Calypso and the Maytag TL Neptune.

If this machine gets good reports from both home users and Consumer Reports, it may be the first TL'er to tempt me away from my beloved FL format... Love that moon-roof lid on the washer.

My only other comment is this: Should their descriptive have jumped from 'king size' capacity straight to 'canyon' capacity? Maybe they should have left room for enlargement by saying this first-issue model had 'crater' capacity, LOL! It's hard to go any larger than Canyon Capacity.

Post# 113004 , Reply# 35   3/2/2006 at 23:45 (6,628 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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If tubs get any bigger they will hang out of the bottom of the cabinet; such as, perhaps, huge balls "covered" by a mini-skirt and no undies.

Post# 113006 , Reply# 36   3/2/2006 at 23:53 (6,628 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
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Well you know how you lads are; everything is always described as/has to be "larger" than the next.

*LOL*

L.

Post# 113054 , Reply# 37   3/3/2006 at 05:04 (6,628 days old) by designgeek ()        

Nah, just the American tendency toward bigger-is-better, which works up to a point. I suppose the next size up from Canyon would be called an Oceanic:-)

Here's another speculation on what they might mean by "reverse rollover." Perhaps if the water level is just right (i.e. less water than a conventional TL, which could be the water conservation aspect they're promoting), the disc causes the entire mass of water & clothes to move in a circle that coincides with the axis of the disc? That would require a slow long stroke with a brief pause between reversals. The turnover would be less rapid than with conventional agitation, and much of the cleaning would be done at the bottom of the tub where the water currents were most vigorous. Could be effective, but also potentially very splashy.

BTW, I did check out the link above. -> About Oasis -> Cleans better: shows a slow-motion animation or series of sill pics with one white item among a bunch of dark items, but I still can't figure out exactly what's going on.

And now that I think of it, interesting that they have a little *boy* looking into the machine: breaking down the old stereotypes about girls and housework, and/or maybe playing off the idea of boys being into interesting mechanical stuff (i.e. implied: this is so mechanically innovative that boys find it interesting). The same little boy turns up in another picture, sitting on the clear lid while mom is picking up a laundry basket. (Implied: Yes, the clear lid is strong, look, your kid can sit on it without breaking it.) In fact there's yet another shot of the same kid looking into the dryer: he's got a soccer ball in one hand, and his sneakers are apparently sitting on a removable shelf that's been put in the dryer to dry them. (implied: but this boy's not an indoor-kid, see, he plays outdoor sports!)

Post# 113107 , Reply# 38   3/3/2006 at 09:41 (6,628 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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The next marketing ploy could be "bottomless pit" capacity. Ha! All of these adjectives really mean nothing....ex large, super, king-size...what does that tell you? All the manufacturers should just list tub size. Seems like only the front loaders do that.

Post# 113166 , Reply# 39   3/3/2006 at 15:46 (6,627 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Greg (gansky1) sent me two promotional Maytag videos some years ago. One was of the Maytag Atlantis (first generation). The video showed a mother and her son doing laundry. So it's not really new, but I guess in marketing it's not rare that you see boys doing laundry.

Post# 113202 , Reply# 40   3/3/2006 at 19:52 (6,627 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Richie, I had the bottomless pit thought at 6:99 an this morning. Great marketing minds ...

Post# 113393 , Reply# 41   3/4/2006 at 22:02 (6,626 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

Well, I got to see the Oasis tonight finally. Our Sears had a blue, white & black model. Huge, to say the least. It's like an added room in the house. Just install TV & recliner in it- youre all set! It holds 23 bath towels. (everything is measured in bath towels, not lbs anymore). The wash motion is a twisting pulsator. They made it taller than the average tl. Looks like alot of fun for $1150! Impressed with the 1000 rpm spin. Uses about 20 gal. as compared with the typical top loader. Now, the other agitator Oasis model also has a huge tub, but uses the 45 gal of water. No window in the lid, which looks strange, but... Anyway the salesman said the display models came in this past week & they'll be available for sale next week. Built by Whirlpool, wonder if they'll come out with their own as wellas a Maytag model eventually. Again, very impressive
Jerry

Post# 113403 , Reply# 42   3/4/2006 at 22:47 (6,626 days old) by the7 ()        
If disk is good, why make agitator?

 "(the disk version) Uses about 20 gal. .....
the other agitator Oasis model also has a huge tub, but uses the 45 gal of water"

If the disk version is cleaning so well with 20 gal of water, why make the agitator version which uses more than twice the amount of water (45 gal).

Post# 113404 , Reply# 43   3/4/2006 at 22:50 (6,626 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Veddy interesting! I looked everywhere to find the spin speed specs. Anyone know what they are?

Post# 113430 , Reply# 44   3/5/2006 at 01:18 (6,626 days old) by agiflow ()        

"If the disk version is cleaning so well with 20 gal of water, why make the agitator version which uses more than twice the amount of water (45 gal)".


Because it's what multitudes in the USA know and want. Old habits die hard i guess.

Post# 113434 , Reply# 45   3/5/2006 at 04:06 (6,626 days old) by the7 ()        
Oasis Max-spin?

 From OASIS' Ad:
"The Oasis HE washer spins at over 1,000 RPM which makes it the fastest spinning washer drum in the top-load class."


From a reader of a laundry forum:
"The washer has a spin speed of 1050 RPM"

Post# 113435 , Reply# 46   3/5/2006 at 04:58 (6,626 days old) by the7 ()        
Oasis in EnergyStar DOE?

 The disk version of Oasis appears in EnergyStar list of DOE, but not their agitator version.

Post# 113469 , Reply# 47   3/5/2006 at 11:11 (6,626 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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the spin speed in their top of the line model is 1150 RPMs!!!!!

Post# 113476 , Reply# 48   3/5/2006 at 11:55 (6,626 days old) by the7 ()        

Now their max spin is comparable to FL !

Post# 113512 , Reply# 49   3/5/2006 at 17:36 (6,625 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

The Oasis with the "Flex Care Agitator" is a rebadged Fisher & Paykel top load washer. The agitator has the corkscrew top and rubber vanes at the bottom. The cabinet matches the washer; rounded corners reminiscent of 50's Kenmores. The impeller model also looks like a F&P without the agitator.

Post# 113534 , Reply# 50   3/5/2006 at 19:26 (6,625 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Agitator vs Impeller

 What it is about the agitator model that it doesn't have a window? Is it just shameful to see an agitator? Perhaps too masculine or too phallic vs. the short, stubby impeller? Hmmm... Freudian psychology at work here.

Post# 113560 , Reply# 51   3/5/2006 at 20:41 (6,625 days old) by westytoploader ()        

That Oasis is AWESOME; would love to play with one! Why isn't the agitator machine on the Sears site yet? I'm very curious about that particular model.

And is the top spin speed 1050 or 1150 RPM? I highly doubt that it spins faster than a Unimatic...

Post# 113577 , Reply# 52   3/5/2006 at 21:21 (6,625 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

The agitator version is also a very impressive looking machine. With a window it would look so much better, as the window version is so stylish. It's a BIG agitator! The sales guy said the regular Oasis spins at 1000 rpm. The price of the agitator model was $850. He said built by Whirpool, not F & P.
Jerry

Post# 113578 , Reply# 53   3/5/2006 at 21:26 (6,625 days old) by pulsator-power (connecticut)        

Oh and I forgot to mention that the lid locks during wash cycle and you have a button to unlock it to add an article of laundry.
Jerry

Post# 113583 , Reply# 54   3/5/2006 at 22:05 (6,625 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
oasis/cabrio

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F&P makes the kitchen Aid dish drawers and is also making the guts to the Whirlpool/Kenmore Oasis/Cabrio machines.They may also begin making a few of the high end wall ovens and cooktops.The blue speckled porcelain interiors will give the ovens away.

Post# 113653 , Reply# 55   3/6/2006 at 09:00 (6,625 days old) by designgeek ()        

Agitator w/ no window: Nothing quite so Freudian; probably a way of differentiating the product and attracting more attention to the disc model. And dealing with the user's curiosity about how this new contraption actually works.

Now if the disc model uses half the water of the agitator, clearly the entire cleaning principle has to be different: My guess is it would have to depend on the disc turning the load over by direct contact rather than by moving the water in a rollover motion; or it would move the water more than the clothes (either way the relative motion is what counts). But I'm still not sure I understand this one. Any chance of a video other than the slow-motion one on the opening page of the Sears site (which I also can't make sense of)?

And how does this differ from the standard Asian pulsator system? Or to put it differently, could one use a pulsator washer in a similar manner, with a lower water level for a given size load?

Quick speculation about agitators. Seems to me there is a change in the velocity of the water as it gets pulled down and moved outward by the lower fins. In that case, cloth would be stretched slightly as it turned from heading downward to heading outward, and this would help free up dirt that was lodged in the weave of the cloth. Is there anything to this or am I imaginging things?

Post# 113659 , Reply# 56   3/6/2006 at 09:42 (6,625 days old) by the7 ()        

"And how does this differ from the standard Asian pulsator system?"
IMO, a pulsator system will certainly damage laundry with a lower water.

That's why I am skeptical about Oasis disk machine and its rollover claims.

Perhaps a video could relief my skeptism.

Post# 113666 , Reply# 57   3/6/2006 at 10:24 (6,625 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

So if that's true, I'm guessing the Oasis will sound and operate something like an F&P machine.

That's ok because I had my sights on F&P set anyway.

I bet the corkscrew agitator can roll the clothes like crazy with the F&P stroke.

Post# 113667 , Reply# 58   3/6/2006 at 10:26 (6,625 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

I'll bet there's a "comforter" setting where it fills the tub totally with water, just like the GE Harmony.

Post# 113752 , Reply# 59   3/6/2006 at 19:36 (6,624 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
craters and canyons and boys

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We're moving toward the ultimate in wash tub sizing , and that would be, of course, the ABYSS.

That little boy is us. Can't you feel it? We've come a long way, Babes: what was once forbidden is now celebrated.

Post# 113754 , Reply# 60   3/6/2006 at 19:40 (6,624 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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AMEN and Hallelujah to that on SO many levels!

Post# 113793 , Reply# 61   3/6/2006 at 22:23 (6,624 days old) by the7 ()        
Oasis disk motion!

 One user in other Laundry forum says:
"The rollover is caused by the impeller moving back and forth, in quick movements and makes a swishing action much like a agitator IMO. But, adding to that action is the drum, which ever so gently moves as well. Hmmm... I will post a definite direction later as I think it's a side to side action. The impeller seems to do most of the work. Clothing does not stay in one heap. I wouldn't say you can actually see the clothing come way up the sides or middle, it's more of a gradual process. If I'm not mistaken, I don't see water shoot up from the impeller to assist in the movement of the clothing. The cloths cover the impeller for the most part until the spin.( I did do a small load as well)
I shine a flashlight through the window during the cycle to give you all the play by play! Yes, for the whole cycle! I do like the technology. So very different from the FL's though."

This saying seems that the clothing is neither "normal rollover" nor "reverse rollover". The clothing sits on the disk and follows the forward rotation and reverse rotation of the disk.

Post# 113806 , Reply# 62   3/6/2006 at 23:46 (6,624 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jason yes there is a builk/blanket/comforter cycle. The manual states these types of items should only be washed on that cycle as other types of items washed on that cycle would cause the machihne to become unbalanced.

Post# 113863 , Reply# 63   3/7/2006 at 11:39 (6,624 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
MANUAL???

 Where? Who has one? Scan me a copy.

Oh phoeey, well it makes sense because stuff will go OVER the disk or to one side.

So I'm guessing you can't fill the tub only to the top of the disk? That can't be right.

Post# 113884 , Reply# 64   3/7/2006 at 13:00 (6,623 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Manuals are available online.

Post# 113885 , Reply# 65   3/7/2006 at 13:19 (6,623 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Ahhhhh

 And now I know, and the more I know, the more I want. And a big YAY to Sears for keeping "classic" cycle names like "Normal" and "2nd rinse". No "Permanent Press" :-( how sad. Now it's "Wrinkle Free".

And in an attempt to be a little more helpful, here's the manual.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO jasonl's LINK
Post# 114606 , Reply# 66   3/11/2006 at 14:24 (6,619 days old) by agiflow ()        

Has anyone here purchased one of these units yet?

Post# 114630 , Reply# 67   3/11/2006 at 20:57 (6,619 days old) by gregm ()        
disc/impeller similar to GE harmony ?

 so this is the replacement to the "calypso" ???, and the one that does not have an agitator has a disc ? this machine with the disc is called the "oasis" ? and works like the GE harmony correct ? I love the tub size ...... would love to see a video of it in action, couldn't find one on the sears website.

Post# 114710 , Reply# 68   3/12/2006 at 09:07 (6,619 days old) by the7 ()        

gregm,
Please note that there are two versions of Oasis.
A "disk" vesion uses 19 gal of water.
An "agitator" version uses 45 gal of water.

Post# 114849 , Reply# 69   3/13/2006 at 07:27 (6,618 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
I saw them in person

 Me and a *special person* went to Sears yesterday to go and look at the Oasis. First of all, it's built like a tank. I want. There's 2 models without the window, an agitator and a disk model, then there's the white with the window, the black and the blue.

Post# 114874 , Reply# 70   3/13/2006 at 08:51 (6,618 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Post# 114877 , Reply# 71   3/13/2006 at 08:57 (6,618 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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I know it's not 12 O'clock, I need a beer to get better instruction (instuction^).
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Post# 114938 , Reply# 72   3/13/2006 at 12:47 (6,617 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

I'm guessing this machine will have more "back and forth" motion like a F&P agitator vs the Harmony/LG going one way for a long time, then another direction for a long time.


And the complaint still remains. WHY is the window tinted? WHY WHY WHY?

Post# 115142 , Reply# 73   3/14/2006 at 07:21 (6,617 days old) by varenovator ()        

FWIW, the agitator disk in the Harmony doesn't go one way for a long time, then another direction for a long time. It alternates with about a 2 second cycle.

Post# 115171 , Reply# 74   3/14/2006 at 10:46 (6,617 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

The Oasis looks more like an overengineered F&P than a LG Turbodrum so the disk will probably use strokes like the F&P agitator. But time will tell. Soon as my cottage gets built I'm going to get the set. I also have the itch for a Magnavox Mircomatic record changer and amp built into the overhead cabinet or console with built-in speakers and aux inputs for cd/ipod/Sirius (which has a most excellent 60s, 70s, and an all ELVIS channel).

Post# 115303 , Reply# 75   3/14/2006 at 23:19 (6,616 days old) by rchris ()        

And to add my two cents to the "it's really a rebadged F&P" cant, I noticed reading the manual that the water level is automatically selected by adding some water and then swishing the disc one or two turns to test for free movement - just like we saw in DADoES' video of his F&P.

On another note, there's no mistaking that Catalyst action. Totally Kenmore.

And what's this under the Normal Sounds section? The pump may sometimes pull air through? Wonder if that's just like the belt drive WP/KM's of old, which moan and groan at you when draining. Love that sound.

Post# 115346 , Reply# 76   3/15/2006 at 07:16 (6,616 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

One can only hope.

Post# 116007 , Reply# 77   3/18/2006 at 01:34 (6,613 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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"We're moving toward the ultimate in wash tub sizing , and that would be, of course, the ABYSS. "

Well, not counting of course the possibility that the ultimate line of residential huge capacity washers will be called the "Black Hole" line.


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