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Frigidaire oven not working ..vintage late 50's /60's
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Post# 746848   4/1/2014 at 17:59 (1,178 days old) by wendyd (Portland)        

I was just given the MOST amazing oven. I love it and everything works great except right side self cleaning oven will not turn on . It is a Frigidaire Imperial Electri-clean, model RCIE 75-12. Any help from vintage lovers and experts would be greatly appreciated !!




Post# 746849 , Reply# 1   4/1/2014 at 18:01 (1,178 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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UNPLUG IT, then pull the back off, and look for any burned wires.


Post# 746850 , Reply# 2   4/1/2014 at 18:05 (1,178 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Yikes!

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If that thing is Turquoise, that is indeed a "most amazing range." Frigidaire 40-inch ranges with Electri-clean are not that common, and one in Turquoise is a real find.

I can't answer your question, but I did want you to know that your instinct to preserve and repair the range is a very good one.


Post# 746852 , Reply# 3   4/1/2014 at 18:06 (1,178 days old) by wendyd (Portland)        

The person who gave it too me said it was the thermostat, but wouldn't it turn on anyway, just not heat properly?

Post# 746854 , Reply# 4   4/1/2014 at 18:08 (1,178 days old) by wendyd (Portland)        

Thankyou I know!! I am in love with it. It heats up so amazingly fast.. I honestly have never experienced that with any previous stoves , ever!

Post# 746872 , Reply# 5   4/1/2014 at 19:12 (1,178 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
It is a 65 or 66 model

Frigidaire ElectriClean came out in 65 i think...

Post# 746975 , Reply# 6   4/2/2014 at 00:07 (1,178 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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It's a 1967 Custom Imperial.  The model is RCIE-75L, (it's not RCIE-75-12) if that helps...

 

That's really a nice range! But the oven controls aren't the simplest on this model...  I have no experience with them as Canadian Frigidaire ranges from that period were very different and much simpler (but also less interesting!)...

 

If you ever want to sell it, and if by any chance you're in Portland Maine, I'd be VERY interested to get a range like that, even if it needs repairs! 


Post# 746994 , Reply# 7   4/2/2014 at 04:02 (1,178 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Thanks for

The correct date, I thought the electriclean lever was moved above the oven door earlier...Im not too much of an expert on anything this new!LOL

Post# 747017 , Reply# 8   4/2/2014 at 07:07 (1,178 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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It COULD be the thermostat, but I think that is somewhat unlikely given the way this range operates.  It could also be a half dozen other things.  Like Phil said, the oven controls and their components for the right-hand oven on this range are VERY complicated.  There is not only the selector switch involved, there is also an 11-volt oven control circuit that involves a transformer, 2 thermal relays and a thermal sensor.  The thermostat for the right-hand oven is not your standard line voltage, capillary tube thermostat.  Instead it is part of the low-voltage control circuitry.  

 

The first thing I would check is make sure that the clock is set for "manual" oven operation.  Beyond that, there is not much else that can be done other than by going "in" with diagnostic equipment and searching out the problem.

 

If there really is a problem in that control circuitry, it's going to take a good service guy to tease it out and to try and find parts to repair it.  Another option would be to try and find a "regular" thermostat like the small oven uses and retrofit it into the large oven.  This would make the oven operate but you would lose all of the "high end" features (tendermatic, self-cleaning, meal-minder, and the automatic broil control).

 

As an aside, I will mention that my grandmother had the Custom Deluxe 2-oven version of this stove when I was a child.  She did 98% of her baking in the small oven.  The only time I remember the large oven being used was on holidays when she was cooking for 20+.

 

I've attached the electrical schematic for the large oven here so that other members can examine it.  Maybe someone else will have a suggestion for you.


Post# 747021 , Reply# 9   4/2/2014 at 07:27 (1,178 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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And here's the circuitry for the small oven, for comparison purposes!


Post# 747063 , Reply# 10   4/2/2014 at 11:13 (1,178 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Hans, you were quite close as the lever was moved to above the oven door the following year. The 1968 "N" models were otherwise quite similar to the 1967 "L" models but the color availability also changed a bit!

Post# 747066 , Reply# 11   4/2/2014 at 11:32 (1,178 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Actually, Phil the 1968 electri-clean ovens were quite different electrically from the 1967 models.  In 1968 all of the low voltage electronic oven control system was removed and replaced with a Helium-charged capillary tube thermostat for the self-cleaning ovens.  This thermostat controlled line voltage to the heating elements.  This eliminated the need for the 2 thermal relays as well as all of the complicated low-voltage resisters, anticipators and the thermistor. 

 

Also, the separate clean timer was removed altogether and the user would set the cleaning time using the Meal-Minder clock.

 

You are correct about the colors.  1968 saw the loss of turquoise in favor of avocado green.  Sunny Yellow was still available, AND some snazzy new colors appeared for the TOL 30" models: Matador Red, Nantucket Blue, Black Onyx and Spanish Gold!

 

That color experiment must not have been terribly popular because by 1969 your color choices were down the typical four of the period: Snowcrest White, Colonial Copper, Avocado & Harvest Gold.


Post# 747092 , Reply# 12   4/2/2014 at 13:16 (1,178 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Mark, I was speaking about the exterior looks!

Are you sure about the colors. From what I understood, colors like Matador red and Nantuket Blue were introduced on the 1966 "K" line. Avocado replaced the short-lived Tahitian Green that was also introduced on1966 models.

I don't have a lot of documentation on the post 1964 cooking appliances as the Canadian lineup was very different from the US lineup by then. Even fridges, laundry appliances and dishwashers had some differences. Canadian portable dishwashers were available with a Ride-Aire kit 1966. They had a built-in air pump, a Ride-Aire pad under them and no casters! I imagine they needed an extra-long power cord!


Post# 747095 , Reply# 13   4/2/2014 at 13:39 (1,178 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Phil you are correct about exterior looks between the L & N lines.

I will take your word about the introduction of those "wilder" colors in 1966. It would seem that I am missing the 1966 K-Line tech talk. (Something to add to my "acquire list")

 

The 1966 laundry appliances tech-talks don't mention those colors, just the usual typical 1966 quartet of white, copper, yellow & turquoise, but since those "wilder" colors only appear on a few 30" ranges in 1967 I'm guessing that those colors would have only been additionally available on a select number of refrigerators and dishwashers as well. 


Post# 747144 , Reply# 14   4/2/2014 at 17:36 (1,177 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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About colors, they were probably introduced later in the 1966 lineup as early Tech Talk documents (for kitchen appliances) don't talk about blue and red... 

 

But this is from the Spring K line (spring of 1966) refrigerator manual:


Post# 747147 , Reply# 15   4/2/2014 at 17:43 (1,177 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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This ad also shows 1966 appliances in Matador Red. 

 

A FPI-16BK refrigerator and a RCDG-39K range.


Post# 747206 , Reply# 16   4/2/2014 at 22:42 (1,177 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Frigidaire 40" Elecrta-Clean Range

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I believe this was the first 40" FD SC range, I have the exact range in white. Mark is correct that this range has a very complicated oven control system for the right oven. The good news is the most likely failure is the oven sensor, FD used the same sensor as early GE SC ovens, you can test it by measuring the resistance at room temperature, it should be around 17.5 ohms. Other than this possibility it can get very complicated to fix these ovens. I have done conversions to hydrolic thermostats on several of these ranges, you will lose the SC feature, and the Tendermatic function, the Broiler-Grill is easy to still connect however.

Hope you can get it working, I my opinion this is one of Frigidaire s most beautiful ranges ever.


Post# 747212 , Reply# 17   4/2/2014 at 23:57 (1,177 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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John, you not only have Frigidaire's most beautiful range, you also have the matching most beautiful fridge that goes with it!  I'm a bit envious to say the least!

 

Here's a few pictures of the 1968 version. The most visible difference is the relocated lock latch. There's also one less indicator light for the Self-Cleaning function, the GM badge moved from the oven door to the lower left part of the control panel and different oven door handles. 




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Post# 748585 , Reply# 18   4/7/2014 at 21:17 (1,172 days old) by wendyd (Portland)        
more details on my range frigidaire Custom Imperial

wow!!You guys are great !! so I think we have determined it is a '67. The larger right self cleaning oven does not heat up and no lights come on It does have lights come on when I move lever over and dial in the self cleaning option. I have not left it on long enough to see if it heats in that mode. Also the exterior stove work light does not come on.. maybe burned out? The interior stove light does come on when opened. My stove came with an additional 110 cord that I thought might need to be plugged in to make work light work. I could not find any place to plug it in so maybe it doesn't belong. I pulled off small back panel on right and while I could not see everything it looks really clean.. in fact the right oven is beautiful.. super clean!! I tried messing with the manual option on timer .. nothing happened.. maybe just don't have the right combo.. I feel it should work it is just something simple!!

Post# 930924 , Reply# 19   4/6/2017 at 19:41 by wendyd (Portland)        
Selling my pretty Frigidaire turquoise oven

I have decided to sell my oven.. never got self cleaning side to work.. now need thermostat on other oven side.. hit me up with a fair price !! wdurighello@gmail.com Thanks Wendy

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