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Thread Number: 52631
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| Post# 748937 4/9/2014 at 17:54 (3,661 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
 Back in August of 2013, when Cascade Institutional (a formula geared towards Food Service use, and phosphate laden) was discontinued, a new product, came out from nowhere.
Cascade "Professional" Fryer Boil Out - And what really strikes me, is the formula for this *new* product.
For Comparison Sake, here is a MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for the new product.
istudio.pgpro.com/Assets/Download...
and here is one, for Cascade Professional. Be sure to scroll all the way, to the bottom.
www.pg.com/productsafety/msds/pro...
Hmmm... Notice something similar?
It would appear to me, in quiet, P&G realized, they'd lose a market, that really isn't a problem for them. No one is gonna ban Phosphate Based, Fryer Cleaning products. And if they did, they'd get an earful from people, who actually have to clean them.
So, since dishwasher based formulas, are banned, they took their "multi-use" product, and simply repackaged it. Now, they can skirt the ban, and still sell to the market they always had...
I'm not quite, sure, they would want purchasers, to use this though, for dishwasher detergent. But I don't see a reason not too. It's the same formula (from what I can tell), and I'd bet, it'd leave Dishes, "Virtually Spotless" like always :)
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| Post# 748986 , Reply# 3 4/9/2014 at 20:43 (3,661 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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It's not TSP it's STTP that you add. TSP is used with painting, etc. STTP is used with detergents and is not as hard on your items as TSP is. 1 tsp per load does the trick. But even though it works well, I have found it's still best to use a DW detergent with phosphates in it from the factory. If you can still find any. | ||
| Post# 748987 , Reply# 4 4/9/2014 at 20:50 (3,661 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
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The thing is.. and you'll notice this.. With any of the newer dishwasher detergents, new ingredients have been introduced, to replace what the Phosphates used to do. One of the main ones, being "Sodium Citrate" or "Citric Acid", and what this does, is soften water, but at the same time, kill the alikainty. This is not a good thing. Basically, the ingredient, that makes the water softer in your dishwasher, goes around, screwing up the rest of the detergent, and, even with Phosphates added, the phosphates & other ingredients, are never able to reach full performance.
It really is kinda a crap shoot. I mean, on one hand, you can keep limescale buildup at bay, at the expense of full enzyme (food dissolving power) performance, or you can leave out the citrates, and get a great clean, at the expense of cloudy or spotted glasses. Phosphate Detergents, imo, give the best of both worlds, at no sacrifice of the dishwasher performance itself. | ||
| Post# 749107 , Reply# 7 4/10/2014 at 10:20 (3,661 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Great Information! Thank You! | ||
| Post# 749131 , Reply# 8 4/10/2014 at 13:14 (3,661 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.) | ||
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| Post# 749530 , Reply# 9 4/12/2014 at 11:05 (3,659 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
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Now I'm curious... | ||
| Post# 749604 , Reply# 10 4/12/2014 at 20:16 (3,658 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio) | ||
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GFS---- It should be, but availability may vary. Lawrence/Maytagbear | ||
| Post# 814148 , Reply# 12 3/16/2015 at 03:17 (3,321 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
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So... | ||
Post# 814219 , Reply# 13 3/16/2015 at 13:05 (3,321 days old) by nurdlinger  (Tucson AZ) |
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+1 | ||
| Post# 841998 , Reply# 15 9/20/2015 at 20:03 (3,132 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York) | ||
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It's the... | ||
| Post# 842000 , Reply# 16 9/20/2015 at 20:06 (3,132 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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I used up 2 cases of it! | ||
| Post# 842024 , Reply# 17 9/20/2015 at 22:35 (3,132 days old) by hiandry () | ||
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Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate Dihydrate. Thanks Mich! I looked up the ingredients on wiki and doing a quick skim I missread and thought it said it was a salt. Now I know... Thanks again. | ||
| Post# 843007 , Reply# 20 9/27/2015 at 08:27 (3,126 days old) by hiandry () | ||
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I don't think so, but I don't know so. I read it on this site, but I didn't bookmark, it and now I can't find it. The topic was phosphates, dishwashers and the f. boil out. | ||
| Post# 843066 , Reply# 21 9/27/2015 at 14:32 (3,126 days old) by hiandry () | ||
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norgeway, You said you have went through two cases.. I'm assuming that would be 12 85oz boxes. How long did they last? | ||
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