Thread Number: 53014
"Studies in the LGeeee" aka, WILD TURBO PIX |
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Post# 753691   4/29/2014 at 12:19 (3,643 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 753694 , Reply# 1   4/29/2014 at 12:26 (3,643 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 753710 , Reply# 12   4/29/2014 at 13:13 (3,643 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 753804 , Reply# 13   4/30/2014 at 06:19 (3,642 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 753807 , Reply# 14   4/30/2014 at 06:48 (3,642 days old) by aldspinboy (Philadelphia, Pa)   |   | |
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Post# 753840 , Reply# 16   4/30/2014 at 12:15 (3,642 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Roscoe ~
It was interesting to see; had used too much Persil Liquid Gold, and after the tub drained, heavy suds were half way up the window. Remembered a short mention of automatic suds control--no details provided--in the terse, unsatisfying manual. So I watched, full of anticipation and wonder. The LG did a series of tumbles, spins, and drains, and slowly but surely the suds dispersed; it took about maybe ten minutes. Surprised that no water was added. Basically, the load whacked the suds back and forth and around compressing the suds into soapy water which the pump took away in stages as it cycled on and off intermittently.
You memory is perfect because I did mention this feature, suds elimination, but had not seen it, and hoped to film it, but this oversudsing episode was an accident. Thanks. My favorite shot is the last one which I almost lost. Hence, the Jesus! (smiling).
Darren ~
You really did the shot justice, making it much closer to the real thing. It's beautiful. Flying water currents are hard to capture. I need a slow speed camera to catch this stuff. Guess I'll add that to the bucket list. Thank you.
Gene ~ Only recently did I learn that the Frigi recirculates. How and where does your spray originate? T'anks, Hank ;'D
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Post# 753863 , Reply# 17   4/30/2014 at 13:37 (3,642 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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My LGs have recirculating spray but,one nozzle,not three or four. WM2277 and WM247 are the two of three models . The 8000s are a bit bigger and have the Turbo Wash. These all do a spectacular job in getting your clothes reap clean and well wrung out. The average drying time in the dryers is 24 minutes.
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Post# 753876 , Reply# 18   4/30/2014 at 14:45 (3,642 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)   |   | |
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Hi Mickey,
The video and following photos are terrific and really show how this washer functions. I am shortly going to be in the market for a new washer and am seriously considering this washer. Are you satisfied with the way it washes your clothes? It is better than the LG without the turbo wash? Is there water in the bottom of the tub during the wash? Is it a deep rinse in conjunction with the spray rinse? Sorry for all the questions. Inquiring minds want to know! Have a great day and enjoy your new LG. By the way, that color is fabulous. Richard |
Post# 753934 , Reply# 19   4/30/2014 at 18:44 (3,642 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Richard ~
Very satisfied. The local dealer had the last Wild Cherry without Turbowash, and I passed on it. Part of the good cleaning in minimum water is achieved by the constant saturation which the Turbo jets provide. Don't get one without it. Every cycle I've tried has at least one deep rinse and at least two sprays. The options let you select 1, 2, or 3 more rinses beyond what the cycle provides. All the deep rinses use plentiful water that you can see up to the bottom of the window's big rubber seal. To get that much water in the wash cycle, you have to select Bulky, Permaent Press, Delicate or Handwash.
Thank you for appreciating the work, love the questions -- can't get enough! -- and seeing that you've just joined, I offer you big, warm welcome to Automatic Washer. Good luck on your purchase. |
Post# 753938 , Reply# 20   4/30/2014 at 18:55 (3,642 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 753958 , Reply# 21   4/30/2014 at 20:46 (3,642 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 754349 , Reply# 25   5/2/2014 at 03:45 (3,640 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 754413 , Reply# 29   5/2/2014 at 12:47 (3,640 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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I loved looking at this series. I would like to see a similar one with a full load in the machine. |
Post# 754430 , Reply# 30   5/2/2014 at 13:30 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Interesting that I'm only seeing one deep rinse on the cycles I've tried. From what you say, it's because I use Turbowash exclusively. Didn't know that. Good to know, more fun to come experimenting. Thank you. But I don't think I could stand to watch without the Turbo Jets streaming ;'D
I love the Speedwash cycle ( 4 minute default wash time on mine) and I use it all the time, firstly because I wash a lot of small loads frequently , and secondly because it's so familiar to me almost like vintage washing where the load takes about 30 minutes; it is never done in 15 real time--only in LG clock time--because the spin ritual adds about another ten minutes. Thirdly, because you get all the signature LG drama compressed into a short sequence, and fourthly , the missing spin allows more retention of detergent fragrance which is important to me. The main drawback for the those with sensitive skin is that there is no spin between wash and rinse; and THAT is how they keep it speedy. Aren't you using HE detergent? When I accidentally over-sudsed, the LG removed them; it has a special protocol for this. Isn't yours working? It was surprising and illuminating to watch.
And no I wasn't wrong. My hot water is indeed 120-130 as mentioned in the vid because my cold water line is attached to the laundry sink's faucet facilitating any temperature I desire entering through the cold line; thus I don't have to fuss around to get hot water without heating. I think you'd like the Sanitary cycle better than the Allergiene; it's shorter and doesn't use that long initial steam cycle which has set a few stains here that Sanitary then removed. You can upgrade for 12 dollars a year, a buck a month, or 3 &1/3 cents a day. I tried to go without upgrading for health reasons, and it was just too frustrating to do without editing. If you're strapped, the system allows any member to upgrade another member. Would you like me to do that for you? You've been so generous to me here.
Roscoe ~
I have really high water pressure here living on the lake. On some machines, I actually have to adjust the valves toward closed because of all the force, especially the cold water valves on the Frigidaires. The water pressure on the LG seems fine. The incoming water is forced through two "banks" atop the drawer opening. They look exactly like the bottoms of those square shower contraptions on bathtub hoses of old. But loving natural water sports so much, you have me really interested in seeing what will happen to the water pressure if I remove the restrictors, assuming they're there. The machine was installed by the dealer techs, and I have only seen the tap end of the cold hose in which there was no restrictor, as expected. I think you can see the incoming water in the open drawer in the vid, but I'm not sure. Here's Big Wild Cherry's control panel. |
Post# 754432 , Reply# 31   5/2/2014 at 13:32 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754463 , Reply# 35   5/2/2014 at 16:05 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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I remember reading about the temperatures. somewhere on line as as well -- unbelievably they're not in the manual -- and if memory serves, Allergeine gets up to 131, while Sanitary heats to 151. The thing about Allergiene, though is that it does all that default or automatically scheduled steaming before the clothing gets really wet. While admitting that it sounds totally counterintuitive, steam first rather than later hasn't worked out too well for me. The manual is not only stingy with details but sometimes contradictory especially what it says regarding Allergeine versus Sanitary. More study needed with less bias and angst toward such a bad manual for such a fabulous machine.
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Post# 754467 , Reply# 37   5/2/2014 at 16:17 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Notice that it also shows the temp level; Aller. leaves it blank.
The star has just arrived next to you name. Have fun editing after posting.
If you use Frigilux's recipe by adding LCB to this cycle, any dingy whites will startle when they come out of the drum. I tried it the other day, on some older stuff ~ WOW. |
Post# 754470 , Reply# 38   5/2/2014 at 16:31 (3,640 days old) by roscoe62 (Canada)   |   | |
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Please let me know if you remove the restrictors, providing they are there, and if there is any change in the fill time or water level(s) Tks |
Post# 754472 , Reply# 39   5/2/2014 at 16:43 (3,640 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 754499 , Reply# 40   5/2/2014 at 17:43 (3,640 days old) by johnmk ()   |   | |
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I did add LCD to the proper area in the inner-left area of the pull-out dispenser, and it seems like it dispensed most of it right away. I thought it was supposed to introduce the LCB into the rinse cycle? |
Post# 754504 , Reply# 41   5/2/2014 at 18:04 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754505 , Reply# 42   5/2/2014 at 18:06 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754506 , Reply# 43   5/2/2014 at 18:08 (3,640 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 754507 , Reply# 44   5/2/2014 at 18:09 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754508 , Reply# 45   5/2/2014 at 18:11 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754554 , Reply# 58   5/2/2014 at 21:00 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Jerrod ~ Here ya go. Hope you like it, and thanks for the inspiration. A lot of work and a lot of fun.
Eugene ~ It works like a chemistry experiment; you never disappoint.
Logix ~ Yeah, steam first, not good. The steaming is separate from the water heating, but I don't have a handle on it yet. Stay tuned.
Johnny ~ You've got the tools, and I know how to get the temp. I discovered a secret cycle, unlisted anywhere. Found it playing the buttons in the flow state and using intuition: the DRAIN cycle. Turn the machine on, press the spin speed button till it reads NO SPIN, press start. The clock will read I minute. Tub drains & shuts off, fastest cycle in the world. So use the sanitary cycle and come back after 30 minutes before the massive cool down. Stop machine and turn off to abort cycle. Turn machine on, and do the drain. Let the discharge get going; then get your equipment to find the truth in heating.
Johnny ~ NEVER put LCB in the rinse. Always in the wash, or in a separate pre-wash before the rinses. Bad for fabrics, bad for skin to keep the chlorine in.
Notes: The Bulky Cycle started a second full deep rinse, but I aborted it, having used uber low-sudsing Persil Mega Pearls, and wanting scent. Used the Spin cycle at full speed. The Bulky spins at medium, 800.
It took two loads in the dryer for LG's big washink ;'D This post was last edited 05/02/2014 at 21:40 |
Post# 754556 , Reply# 59   5/2/2014 at 21:06 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754559 , Reply# 60   5/2/2014 at 21:11 (3,640 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 754561 , Reply# 61   5/2/2014 at 21:33 (3,640 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754596 , Reply# 63   5/2/2014 at 22:37 (3,640 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 754601 , Reply# 64   5/2/2014 at 23:02 (3,639 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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"I did add LCD to the proper area in the inner-left area of the pull-out dispenser, and it seems like it dispensed most of it right away. I thought it was supposed to introduce the LCB into the rinse cycle? "
I didn't mean that you put it in the wrong dispenser. What your wrote suggests you thought the machine added beach during the rinse; it doesn't ! Bleach always comes in during the wash cycle. I thought this was common knowledge, and I'm trying to show you bleach IS SUPPOSED TO go in during the wash phase.
Alex & John ~ I agree the stream seems like gimmickry, but the glass does get awfully hot, and I'm sure we'll all figure it out.
By the way, a thank you or at least an acknowledgment for the upgrade would be nice. |
Post# 754608 , Reply# 65   5/2/2014 at 23:56 (3,639 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 754623 , Reply# 66   5/3/2014 at 01:30 (3,639 days old) by johnmk ()   |   | |
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Thank you for the upgrade, very generous! :-) I'm sure we'll continue contributing to each other's progress in finding the ins & outs of these modern LG clothes washers. |
Post# 754636 , Reply# 67   5/3/2014 at 05:21 (3,639 days old) by Mich (Hells Kitchen - New York)   |   | |
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Are technically supposed to introduce, Chlorine Bleach, sometime during the last 10 minutes of the wash cycle. But, one finds, if you're not careful, and use more than 1/2 cup, it dispenses in seconds.
Honestly, I've found it easier, to just run another cycle, with Bleach as needed, than trust the dispenser. You really want the Detergent to have a go at the dirty laundry, before the bleach does. I think the Dispenser, was just simply poorly designed. |
Post# 754650 , Reply# 68   5/3/2014 at 07:31 (3,639 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Whirlpools dispense the bleach during the first rinse. Naturally, if there's only one deep rinse, the bleach has to be dispensed during the wash - like Mieles do. |
Post# 755031 , Reply# 70   5/5/2014 at 12:14 (3,637 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Hello Roscoe, I read the manual which is unusually forthcoming about the inlets, making much ado about the filters, and the warning not to remove them. Now this is about filters not flow restrictors, about which there is no mention, nor any pix of them in the diagram. No scanner here, so I can't show you. Hope to find a way later.
John & Alex. Steam in progress; magic key in door lock, with door mostly closed by magnetized anti-mold device. I just opened the door, and the machine is full of steam, hard to perceive through the glass, but once the door is open, I got a nice facial. |
Post# 755034 , Reply# 71   5/5/2014 at 12:27 (3,637 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 755091 , Reply# 74   5/5/2014 at 16:39 (3,637 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Truly enlightening: it really works. I thought it was "The Emperor's New Clothes!" The whole house smelled like Persil because after I left the door open, the steam just kept pumping out. It was amazing.
The steam breathes forth from the top--I THINK--more study required.
Just the usual low level of about 2 & 1/2 gallons--but that was without anything in the drum to absorb any water. Guessing that a load would have been wet but not sloshing.
The Allergeine cycle time was 136. Don't know about the Steam buzzer pressed for other cycles; haven't tried.
Hey, Thanks, there's a lot here to learn. Now I'm really interested where before I was a doubting Thomas.
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Post# 755092 , Reply# 75   5/5/2014 at 16:48 (3,637 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 755093 , Reply# 76   5/5/2014 at 16:50 (3,637 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Real steam! My Frigidaire simply heats the water and tumbles for an extra 20 minutes. Granted, this helps remove stains, but not because of steam, per se. It's the extra 20 minutes of tumble time that does the trick. Oh, and the 'steam' occurs during the 1st rinse, not the wash cycle on my washer.
Thanks for the photos and further investigations into the LG's many features, mickeyd. |
Post# 755303 , Reply# 77   5/6/2014 at 16:47 (3,636 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Real Steam, Eugene. Imagine!!!
Last night I tried the Cold Wash, a cycle the booklet claims uses six motions: Tumbling, Rolling, Stepping, Scrubbing, Swing, and Filtration. Guessing that the rather violent back & forth agitator like swings of the tub describe the "Scrubbing" motion, but then what is "Swing" ? This was the first viewing. When I tried it before on another cycle none of this happened; the cycle must have been too short. For this Cold Wash experience, I used Cottons/Normal. Fun to watch. Definately movie worthy.
Wish I could pipeline you some steam. |
Post# 755338 , Reply# 78   5/6/2014 at 20:17 (3,636 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 755357 , Reply# 79   5/6/2014 at 22:40 (3,636 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Perfect, and the only reason this model can't show filtration is because it lacks the Turbo Jets.
Learning Curve:
So the rolling is slower tumbling. When I've seen this -- which I now recognize in hindsight -- thought I was just getting tired or that the light or the load was creating an optical illusion. The door was closed during the times of witnessing rolling.
And swing is simply slower scrubbing. Thanks !
So glad you found these and posted them, Alex. Many Thanks.
Watching scrubbing with water in the tub is impressive, dramatic, and memorable. With a direct drive motor, these moves are possible; just imagine trying to pull this off with belts and pulleys ! Wonder what the engineers will do to enhance direct drive moves is the years to come.
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Post# 755538 , Reply# 81   5/7/2014 at 18:09 (3,635 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Wondered the same things too. but for blue jeans and trail biking clothes, and rags, I'm going to use this thrashing Cold Wash Option. Seeing it once I was convinced. Cheating though because the water entering through the cold line will be HOT. That arrangement should really give the this machine a vintage top loading-like edge. |
Post# 756936 , Reply# 82   5/14/2014 at 13:30 (3,628 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Just found out that the Speed Wash cycle does not spin between extra rinses, either, just as it does not spin between the wash and single rinse on the preset cycle. In this regard, it works just like the GE Combo which rinses three times and then spins for the first and only time. (Other LG cycles do.)
So I found a new favorite cycle, kind of like a Super Wash. Select Speed Wash + one extra rinse. You get the selected wash time --I used Heavy Soil-- the gallon cool down, the quick drain which stops immediately when the pump senses a decrease in pressure, a refill, rinse, drain, refill rinse, spin. Fast & furious. Good for higher sudsers like Persil Liquid and when you want lots of washing, and no load sensing or long spin distributions.
John, when you next do a wash would you see if the Speed Wash keeps the heat on when selecting max wash time, and when your meter says the power throttles back. From you I eared that the Speed Wash heats. Although I had a dim awareness that the load coming out was usually warm, I thought it was because I was rigging the incoming cold line. And since it is a coil, and the fine fill begins at once, maybe it is heating the rinse water, if only partially and residually. So, see when the heat goes on and off during Speed. Thanks. |
Post# 756994 , Reply# 83   5/14/2014 at 19:08 (3,628 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 757034 , Reply# 84   5/14/2014 at 22:27 (3,628 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Hey Alex, Hello!
Well it'll sure be great fun to try especially since the other day when I selected medium speed it looked to be going like a banshee at 1200 and I thought good Lord does this only spin at one speed, a million miles an hour. Thanks for the tip so I can find out.
In that video, either the sound was perfection or that's one big a$$ machine, The Titanium, with a bigger, louder pump and louder percussives everywhere due to the size. Easy to recognize, that's the big 5.2 cubic feet LG which the lady at Best Buy tried to sell me the day I went looking for Big Red which turned out to be unavailable. She was so funny explaining that she had the 3.5 machine but not in cherry red and that she was saving up money so that she could buy this great big giant beast because it can wash 77 towels or something. Hyperbole, mine. It would be fun to have if you're washing for an army but I had no desire to get that great big beast. Yet, seeing it perform live.........
Alex, you know what I think they've done with the spray on this bigger machine? I think they've narrowed the flume so that the spray is not as expansive but it's more focused, narrowed, and maybe even stronger due to the nearly 2/5's increase in tub size. In person the Titanium tub is cavernous.
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Post# 757159 , Reply# 86   5/15/2014 at 12:19 (3,627 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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That was my aunt Lenore's name who indulged my love for washing machines by letting me do the laundry with her in a vintage Easy spin. Honored to have her name as my Aworg handle.
When you select Heavy Soil on Speed Wash, the cycle time increases from 15 to 25. See if you can gauge the temp after what should be approximately 14 minutes of heating, when you think of it or is convenient.
Yesterday was the first time I added one extra rinse** with Speed Wash, and I witnessed a most welcome surprise. After the drain, there was a nice long spray rinse while the machine TUMBLED. Always like that classic maneuver in front loaders, but it seems to have disappeared in the contemporary washers. All other spray rinses on this LG have occur during spin. It was very interesting and satisfying to watch it spray while tumbling. Then the drama increased. As soon as the spray stopped, the jets went on and the fill began. So many different water sounds with the tumbling starting and stopping. Total Washer Heaven.
I did another load using this custom made Super Wash, and it did the same thing. Mindful of water waste -- you're reading my mind ;'D -- after the LG did its new trick, I aborted the second rinse, and selected spin which gives the default cotton version of 18 minutes, at least 10 of which fly at 1200 RPM's; the load was really, really dry. This Red Lady is full of surprises. I wonder what will come next.
Thank you, John
** (Using Persil Pearls, there is little-to-no sudsing.) |
Post# 757163 , Reply# 87   5/15/2014 at 12:45 (3,627 days old) by johnmk ()   |   | |
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I'll try that presently, Mickey. Just about to do a smallish load of colors -- I'll add an extra rinse and wash at peak soil level. |
Post# 757208 , Reply# 88   5/15/2014 at 17:55 (3,627 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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I agree about the wonderful scent of Tide HE Original. It was my go to detergent for everything except whites for which I used Tide's Bleach version, until I discovered Persil. Don't know how long this Persil infatuation will last or if it is permanent. Yes, it would be wonderful if Tide made softener in their original scent.
Somewhere in a lab way back in a forgotten cupboard is the long lost vial of Original Gain Powder Perfume. When they find that first scent from long ago, I'll come running.
Thanks for the wash water temp check. Guessing 110. |
Post# 757298 , Reply# 90   5/15/2014 at 22:14 (3,627 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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An optimist here, and knowing that the heater would stop at the end of the wash, I was thinking more along the lines of residuals. The coil would need to cool and would probably not cool during the one minute drain before the subsequent rinse fill, and that therefore some "residual" heating of the rinse water would occur during Speed Wash which would be improbable in other cycles because of the 8 or so minute distribution before the spin. Little chance of any heat remaining in the coil, then.
I love this. Thank You. On mine, the Turbo is preset with Speed Wash. Later model, maybe? UNLESS, I accidentally programmed it early on, working the buttons. Interesting. Even though my cold line can be set to hot, with only two gallons coming in on most wash cycles, and no way to pre-purge the lines, it is still hard to get tank hot water, but here's a trick: Let the machine do its cold/ hot alternation protocol, then drain the tub, and you should get tank hot water if you can adapt your cold line or turn it off. Tried get a pic of the tumble spray, but the door would not open for me to insert the magic key; hence the glare and streaming. Next time. |
Post# 757326 , Reply# 92   5/16/2014 at 06:16 (3,626 days old) by johnmk ()   |   | |
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1000 watts . . . that's the same power as the internal water heater in my Keurig coffee maker. And that takes a couple minutes to reach boiling, heating just a smidgen of water. How I envy Europeans with their 240v utopia! |
Post# 757334 , Reply# 93   5/16/2014 at 06:42 (3,626 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 757374 , Reply# 94   5/16/2014 at 10:02 (3,626 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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No need to get overly excited about the 240V heater. While these put out +/- 2000 watts, heating still takes its time. The manual of my Duet says, it'll wash 13 lbs. on the Mixed Items (Normal) cycle at 104F. Well, no. If I really put that much clothes in there, the heater won't get the water up to temp during to 25-minute main wash cycle. Once the timer displays 30 minutes remaining, the heater will click off and the drain pump comes on. :( It wasn't a problem when I still had the washer connected to hot and cold, as the ATC is set to achieve 104F in the tub during the fill stage. The only way to avoid it is to select another cycle (no soil level selection on Mixed Items), load less clothes in there or dump hot water in the washer once the load-sensing is done.
I wish I had one of these V-Zug washers. 3500 watts heating power... just like in the good ol' days. I'm still thinking that there must be a way to get the LG to display the current tub temp. Just keep on pressing them buttoms! :D |
Post# 757377 , Reply# 95   5/16/2014 at 10:23 (3,626 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Rarely use the Bright Whites. Not surprised that you've found the rinse water to be ten degrees higher than tap cold even after the high speed spin after the wash. Residuals are interesting and subtle, coming to my attention when I moved into this house with baseboard hot water heating. It's been a constant source of fascination, even with barely a candle heating the LG's meager two gallons of wash water on the regular cycles. When I use Sanitary for white loads, the draining wash water is scalding hot, so that little bugger takes its time, but in the end does the job. Sanitary is about an hour and a half, heating for maybe 60 minutes--guessing. Try sanitary for really hot water. No thermometer here. Should I call you John? No name given in profile
Jon, the spray is just under a minute--have gotten to the count of 50, using the one thousand, two thousand, three thousand method. (Must get timer and thermometer)
Two sprays in final spin. When they come depends on cycle. On Speed Wash, they enter at minute 5 & 3, remaining. More sprays occur depending on the cycle and the extra rinses selected. The LG computer truly has a mind of its own and seems to do any damn thing it pleases, lol.
You've got to get one of these, Jon. You'd have a ball. And with all your meters and equipment, you could do definitive water use studies. Haven't written it out yet, but my thesis was that LG has copied every favorite and well-known maneuver from all the vintage washing machines we know and love. Someone at LG has spent a lot of time in the Imperial Archives of Aworg. |
Post# 757381 , Reply# 96   5/16/2014 at 10:35 (3,626 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Jon Charles ~
Here's a link to the movie Dennis & I made showing the water richness.
Alex ~
I haven't tried the buttons yet, and I would also love a "real" heater to do a classic European Boil Wash, but this teeny LG "buffet warmer" is very satisfying for someone who has had NO heater ever before. CLICK HERE TO GO TO mickeyd's LINK This post was last edited 05/16/2014 at 12:07 |
Post# 757560 , Reply# 98   5/16/2014 at 20:25 (3,626 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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The whole hope and effort is to launder the load in as little water as possible. First for conservation of a diminishing natural resource ( see HBO's "Vice" piece on Texas Drought or the PBS "Nature" edition about Beavers -- both currently available), and second to get the laundry clean. With minimal water the laundry rises all the way to the top and falls with the full weight and force of a wet towel -- not possible in a vintage amount of water. It works, especially with the constant saturation by the turbojets. There is nothing new about this method when you understand it as a refinement of rock pounding and washboard washing used for centuries.
The rinse uses twice as much for dilution, etc., and since the load is clean, the heavy falling and thrashing is no longer necessary which cannot happen anyway in the high volume of water used for rinsing.
It takes some getting used to, especially for a dyed-in-the-wool TL Codger like myself. But seeing is believing, and I am convinced. The clothes are clean, washed effectively in just over two gallons of water. To put it into perspective, my 18 pound Norge took almost two gallons just to fill the lower regions before you could see any water at all in the tub, and then another 18 gallons to wash, which it did marvelously just like the LG does. |
Post# 757572 , Reply# 99   5/16/2014 at 21:16 (3,626 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Nice video ! Very Pro I think. that is a pretty machine. All that jiggling in the beginning is the washer trying to sense the weight of the clothes to determine how much water to fill. The motor has a torque sensor that tells it how much weight is in the tub.
I am amazed that you are able to change cycle elements on the fly like that, even in my Speed Queen once it starts there is no changing unless you Z out the whole cycle and start over. That kind of flexibility is a real plus. Love the Cherry color!!
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Post# 757596 , Reply# 100   5/17/2014 at 00:31 (3,625 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Thanks John. Yeah, you can play those buttons & keys & blinking dial like an organ. I so hope you'll get one. The Wild Cherry will one day be as sought after as your Charcoal . More on the water later. Lots to tell. "On the fly" to LA at noon. Washing and packing and securing the premises like a squirrel.
Memory trigger: Jon is right: what happened when I added a towel late in the cycle, and then just a T-shirt. |
Post# 758268 , Reply# 101   5/20/2014 at 02:55 (3,622 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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MickeyD, Thank You! for the pictures and additional info about the "turbo" system. Safe travel while on your trip. Also Loggix Thank You for explaining all the different tumble patterns. Arthur |
Post# 783154 , Reply# 102   9/12/2014 at 03:48 (3,507 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Michael,
How are things with this washer? Your pics and vids are making this gorgeous machine seem appealing and almost necessary! I was looking at a used Neptune 7500 set that fell through, and have seemed to acquire a speed queen front load set that needs some work and am desperate to get rid of my samsung wf210anw washer... I guess I shouldn't say that, I have been fiddling with it more and more and am getting it to clean better as I keep adjusting water levels and temperatures... The damn thing doesn't use hot water when you put it on a hot cycle. When the unit was new, it barely spit on the clothes and the paddles on the drum don't seem to pull the clothes as much as they should... But what can I say when the set cost what the Cherry LG washer costs alone. Anywho, I found one for around 600 with free shipping and was thinking of picking it up... I just had a few questions I wanted to go over, a lot of them have been answered by this thread but curiosity still leads the mind to wander. I thought I'd better start by making sure you still enjoy the machine first. I hope all is well! |
Post# 786674 , Reply# 103   10/1/2014 at 08:40 (3,488 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Micky I am glad to see your posts.... Now how bout some deck pictures as fall progresses. I enjoy your shots from your deck, It is how I kwnow fall is coming.... I hope you are well. arthur |