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Solid tub speed queens still in use!
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Post# 758418   5/20/2014 at 16:48 (3,621 days old) by washman (o)        

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Don't they look fantastic?





Post# 758424 , Reply# 1   5/20/2014 at 17:37 (3,621 days old) by lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

Let me just add the newb question here but is the tub really solid as in no perforation?

Post# 758429 , Reply# 2   5/20/2014 at 17:57 (3,621 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Hey Lorain

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You better believe no holes, no perforations, SOLID TUB. And this one is in my Akron basment

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Post# 758430 , Reply# 3   5/20/2014 at 18:07 (3,621 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
very cool!!!

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thanks for sharing!!!

i think it would be cool to go to that town, where this laundromat is, and get a hotel there and take loads of dirty clothes to wash at that laundromat, to get the whole "speed queen" experience.
it would be kinda like a "wash-in" but at a laundromat!!
ha ha ha....
LOL....

;oD


Post# 758435 , Reply# 4   5/20/2014 at 18:42 (3,621 days old) by washman (o)        
Oh hippiedoll is it ever

I mean I never knew what laundry could be like until I got a Speed Queen. Never have my clothes come out so fresh, so clean, so delightfully soft. Coupled with the SQ dryer, it is washing nirvana if you ask me.

Post# 758451 , Reply# 5   5/20/2014 at 19:39 (3,621 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, but you have never experienced Speed Queen Clean until you have used a solid tub, and that over flow rinsing!....

and the sound of those solenoids banging!

checkout a few of these courtesy of our members collections...






Post# 758460 , Reply# 6   5/20/2014 at 20:03 (3,621 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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They're beautiful and look brand new!! Reminds me of the hook 'em horns orange used a lot in the Austin Kwick Wash SQ laundramats when I was in school!!!

Post# 758461 , Reply# 7   5/20/2014 at 20:04 (3,621 days old) by lorainfurniture (Cleveland )        

So how does it extract the water? Can someone give me the cliff notes on this machine as I have never seen one like it before

Post# 758465 , Reply# 8   5/20/2014 at 20:07 (3,621 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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there are holes at the top of the tub just under the clothes guard. The spin/centrifical force sends the water up, over, and out the top of the tub to drain the tub and spin dry the clothes. The overflow rinse adds water as it agitates. the water overflows out the tub through those same top of tub holes and flushes out the suds and lint/scum. It does an overflow rinse at the end of the wash cycle and also the majority of the agitated deep rinse is an overflow rinse.

Post# 758564 , Reply# 9   5/21/2014 at 09:18 (3,621 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO)        
Where....

is the laundromat located that still has these in operation as stated on the Facebook thread? Anyone know?

John


Post# 758566 , Reply# 10   5/21/2014 at 09:24 (3,621 days old) by washman (o)        
Located at

City Wide Coin Laundry
Coral Gables FL.


Post# 758575 , Reply# 11   5/21/2014 at 10:14 (3,620 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR)        

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Thanks for posting those. I remember using those solid tub Speed Queens many years ago when I used the Laundromat. They were fantastic machines; clean clothes every time and no lint or residue on anything.

Post# 758608 , Reply# 12   5/21/2014 at 13:05 (3,620 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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The solid tub SQ washer my parents had when I was growing up did ok but washing for seven people and the smallish tub the SQ washer had was well let's just say I did laundry every day. That said they also relied on the sediment ejector tub to dump sand and sediment out of the tub. If one had a blocked tube like I had, well ya got sediment in the bottom of the tub. These washers were good for washing, extraction though was another story. The top sections of the load were extracted well but the load at the bottom not so much. The first SQ washer lasted 9 years and my parents bought that in 1964. The second SQ washer lasted 6 short years and it died by the transmission cracking in half. What a mess that was green goo and the belt snapped from the pump to the transmission. For the capacity that these machines had, and the water consumption, they were ok . My parents then replaced the SQ washer with a Maytag A510. That washer lasted til 2010. When we got the Maytag I was in love with the capacity, extraction and sand removal. It was a drastic improvement over the SQ washer. The SQ washer I have today I could have used way back then. Capacity is very good and washes well.

Post# 758612 , Reply# 13   5/21/2014 at 13:34 (3,620 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Well

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I agree with some of that, disagree with some, but that's the story here at AW---hundreds of opinions!

Yes, they have a small tub and I could NOT get by if it was my only washer. A family of 3 or 4 should look at other machines, true. Even blue jeans are an overload. But for tons of sheets, dress pants, towels, shirts, etc, it does a great washing and rinsing. I have found extraction to be very good, just like Maytag/GE/Frigidaire of the era. Mine is a 73 or 74 model.

Sand and grit----yea, not the best. Normal dirt and lint goes away wonderfully, but the sediment can stay behind.

They are usually known for pretty good quality construction, mine is 39 years old, but any brand can put out a lemon now and then.

Water use---None is wasted in any outer tub., There's almost no spray rinsing, instead that water usage goes into overflowing rinses. The results are GREAT. So water use I'd call average.

Like I said, I couldn't get by with a 50's thru late 70's solid tub SQ as my only washer. But for a collector, with other machines for blankets and jackets and jeans, etc, it's wonderful.

Half agree, half disagree, that ain't bad! I like the wide range of experience and opinions here--and we all have differing needs and wants in our collections--

Mark


Post# 758922 , Reply# 14   5/22/2014 at 15:08 (3,619 days old) by blueneon ()        
It's alive

Hey there. I was looking through the forum to see if anyone had posted these same sort of machines recently as I'm still wondering what "Apple Green" looks like... and surprise, there's the very post I made. They came in white, Harvest Gold, Avocado, (we all know those) and also Sunset Orange (the ones pictured) and Apple Green. Curious.

So yes, this is at City Wide Coin Laundry on the north side of Coral Way, just east of 27th Avenue. It's right next to a Starbucks. Tiny little place and well, the whole thing is straight outa the 1960s. They have these and then there are about a dozen Ametek/Troy machines - the two sizes(?) of Big Boy including the one that seems to always be seen installed flush into a wall that I remember from my childhood, and the Mi-T-Boy. The nameplates on them say they were made 1968.

The dryers are also Speed Queen and appear to be really old ones that got modernized with digital timers, probably in the 80s.

The only more modern things in that laundromat: a row of Continental-Girbau machines (NOT the most recent ones though with the direct drive system and ridiculous high G force spin) and a lot of people with smartphones.

A domino table is also provided out front, because, well, this is Miami.


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Post# 758923 , Reply# 15   5/22/2014 at 15:08 (3,619 days old) by blueneon ()        

.......... Also, wood panelling

You're, uh, welcome?


Post# 758930 , Reply# 16   5/22/2014 at 15:25 (3,619 days old) by washman (o)        
Love it

Seems like the little laundromat that time forgot. I miss those quaint places and the smell of Bold3, the sloshing of numerous SQ machines, and the massive tumble dryers that dried for a long time on one thin dime.

I also miss the days when detergents were powder and had lots of phosphates in them.


Post# 758935 , Reply# 17   5/22/2014 at 15:35 (3,619 days old) by washman (o)        
Request

Would it be possible to go back and snag some more snaps of those Speed Queens?

Post# 759009 , Reply# 18   5/22/2014 at 22:02 (3,619 days old) by blueneon ()        

Sure. I'll do so when I walk over there to satisfy my overpriced coffee craving ;)
On an unrelated note: this PreSonus board can sometimes pick up distant relay noises from those Ametek machines due to a pretty stunningly weird power line ground loop problem in the neighborhood. The sound you get when one brakes from spin (energizing the wash motor while it's being oversped at a few thousand rpm) is.... fearsome. It's like a devil pig oinking. I suspect the problem is a compound of that the board's input impedance is super high and the janky snake cable we have may be missing a few grounding points! Thankfully the washing machine clicks and devil oinks disappear on any channel that has a microphone connected.

I only figured out what that noise was after watching one of the Mi-T-Boy machines running and noticing its drum reversals had the same cadence.


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Post# 759026 , Reply# 19   5/22/2014 at 23:34 (3,619 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Nice laundromat. The SQs are beautiful and unweathered by age. It's great to know that some of these old time laundromats still exist.

Post# 759135 , Reply# 20   5/23/2014 at 16:19 (3,618 days old) by blueneon ()        

More from City Wide Coin Laundry. Welp... I guess I now know what Apple Green looks like. I'd missed that row of them before I suppose.

The Speed Queen dryers look fantastic. There were also some Loadstar (Huebsch?) dryers there but I couldn't get a good photo of them due to MASSIVE sun glare. I have no idea who made the ones with the LED displays.

No idea when the Continental-Girbau washer is from but it's not the current model, and it takes *FOREVER* to spin down. No brakes, it doesn't even use the Ametek's trick of re-engaging the wash motor to force it to slow down.

Speaking of Ametek, these are definitely the original model from before the electric door strike that didn't let you open the washer while it was running. My grandfather told me a story of how one of his first large electrical jobs, he wired in an Ametek and had it up and running. These machines do not start draining until the spin motor is already energized, so you wind up with a very large amount of water spinning inside the thing with great force until it empties out. His foreman promptly pressed the door release tab just as it was spinning up and was given a tremendous shower. He was afraid the foreman would get mad and not sign off on the job, but the foreman took it laughing in good spirits and said he could use the cold shower anyway. ;)


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Post# 759147 , Reply# 21   5/23/2014 at 18:08 (3,618 days old) by washman (o)        
Brilliant!

If this place ever shuts down, I want a green SQ!

Post# 759196 , Reply# 22   5/23/2014 at 22:16 (3,618 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Vintage machines in commercial duty

Very cool laundromat!  I wonder how much trouble it is to keep those vintage SQ solid tub machines as well as the Big Boy front loaders running.  Are parts available for them?  Just curious...

 

Andrew S.


Post# 759215 , Reply# 23   5/24/2014 at 01:01 (3,618 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Memories from the lapse of time!!Those SQ machines shown look like the ones in an apartment building laundry room where I lived starting in the early 70's -It was the Oakrest Towers Apartments in Suitland,Md.The machine were Turquoise in color.They were my favorite laundry service machine.Wish I had one today!-just like those older solid drum machines.Liked watching the overflow rinse-the tops of the agitator blades were under water!Also remember "McGraw Edison" on the machine nameplates besides Speed Queen.Later SQ machines at that apartment were Ratheon machine-NOT the same as those older McGraw Edison ones!

Post# 759260 , Reply# 24   5/24/2014 at 10:44 (3,617 days old) by blueneon ()        

dnastrau: From what I understand, the Ametek machines relied very heavily on off the shelf standard parts and didn't really have much custom built aside from the casing and drum. They beat Staber to their game 30 years earlier I guess.

I know what you mean with the Raytheon based ones. Some of the Huebsch machines at the boring modern laundromat I take my stuff to have Raytheon labels on them, and a few places have the Raytheon/Speed Queen top loaders... they don't overflow rinse or anything cool like that.


Post# 759268 , Reply# 25   5/24/2014 at 11:10 (3,617 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

It doesn't surprise me at all that there are still old solid tub SQ coin op machines in use. They were extremely heavy duty and would last nearly forever with a little care and maintainence.

Post# 759569 , Reply# 26   5/26/2014 at 01:55 (3,616 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I would also think the older SQ machines would be easy to fix if and when they did break.When the ones at that apartment house were removed-all of them that I knew of still worked.Hope they found another home rather than the krusher-would be sad to destroy machines that still work.Maybe they were recycled for home use.Like many commercial mowers-when they get "aged" they are great for home use.

Post# 759590 , Reply# 27   5/26/2014 at 05:27 (3,616 days old) by washer111 ()        

These machines are GREAT looking - and pretty simple to boot too!

 

That Lime/Apple colour is a pretty interesting colour for a commercial machine, as is the Orange! 

 

The great thing about these machines would the superior agitation, as well as the thorough overflow rinsing - especially compared to modern coin-ops that only do a partial drain for the rinses to conserve water (talk about a rip-off!)

 

Would love to see one of these in action - they do look like fun machines :)


Post# 759700 , Reply# 28   5/26/2014 at 19:53 (3,615 days old) by dnastrau (Lords Valley, PA)        
Solid tub SQ parts availability (?)

Are parts still available for solid tub SQ machines?  I have a feeling that the general answer is "NOS" only.  Maybe the owner of that laundromat has a stash of spares...


Post# 759701 , Reply# 29   5/26/2014 at 19:54 (3,615 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Solid Tub Commercial SQs Still In Use

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This has be be about the last Laundromat in the US that still has these machines.

SQ like other brands seldom lasted much more than 10 years in Commercial use, which is actually saying a lot since the amount of use they get is like lasting 50-100 years or more in home use of just 10 or less loads per week.

The ST SQ washers were not partially easy to repair, but they did have a good main seal and bearing system, so a determined repair person could keep them running if you wanted to work that hard and have lots of skinned fingers and bruises.



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