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KDS-60 Wash Cycles Too Short |
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Post# 768887   7/7/2014 at 18:55 (3,551 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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My new to me KDS-60 wash cycles are too short and the pause to heat the water is also very short. My w/h is very close to my kitchen and is set on the highest setting. The incoming water temp. is 130 and that's before the burner kicks on. I just checked it after the burner has been on. It goes to a bit over 140. Could this be causing wash cycles to be too short in my KA?
The machine's working perfectly other than this. The pump has been rebuilt and it has all the typical KitchenAid sounds. It runs through it's cycles much faster than my Mothers. Her w/h is at the opposite end of the house. Anyone have ideas? B. |
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Post# 768954 , Reply# 1   7/7/2014 at 23:16 (3,551 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)   |   | |
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Hi, what is the equivalent under-counter model? |
Post# 768957 , Reply# 2   7/7/2014 at 23:32 (3,551 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 769027 , Reply# 3   7/8/2014 at 05:44 (3,551 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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What do you mean by "too short?" Are the dishes not being cleaned? The 20 series did not do heating to temperature while the water was circulating so heating would not extend the wash water recirculating times. |
Post# 769108 , Reply# 4   7/8/2014 at 12:05 (3,551 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 769152 , Reply# 5   7/8/2014 at 14:24 (3,551 days old) by eronie (Flushing Michigan)   |   | |
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Ok where is the water heater temp thread? |
Post# 769182 , Reply# 6   7/8/2014 at 16:12 (3,551 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)   |   | |
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the thread about water temps is under the SUPER forum on this site. It was posted by Revvinkevin. |
Post# 769211 , Reply# 7   7/8/2014 at 18:44 (3,550 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 769249 , Reply# 8   7/8/2014 at 21:11 (3,550 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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OK, now that we're in the proper forum and thread, here goes.
I read the service manual for the 20 series and the machine is operating as it should. It pauses to heat the water on the first fill with 1400 watts and after that it heats the water during pre-wash and wash cycles with 700 watts but doesn't pause the timer. This is proper operation according to the s/m. The problem I've had was with smoothie glasses not coming clean (strawberries blended with Chobani yogurt). I didn't rinse out the glass. I just put it in the machine. Also, egg not coming off of spatulas. The egg thing doesn't bother me as I just take another spatula and scrape it off. The bottom and sides of a glass not coming clean is another matter. I'm going to try putting these glasses in the bottom rack directly over the jets on the hydro-sweep and see what happens. Otherwise I will rinse the glass out before I put it in the machine. Ralph (Chach)- You're right. The water temps don't adjust the actual time of the cycle, but the heating element does run with the 700 watts while washing. I have examined the rubber supply tube (#14) and it is perfect. In fact everything about this machine is perfect except for a couple of small things that wouldn't effect cleaning ability. It remains to be seen if I'll get these small things fixed. Leslie- I had noticed the bottom wash arm wasn't fully seated on the wash arm shaft. I took the arm off, replaced it, turned it a bit and it suddenly dropped into place. The support shaft and bushing in the hydro-sweep are tight, as this machine has seen very little use. It turns smoothly but there is no play at all between the two. Thanks for noticing and causing me to investigate further. |
Post# 769257 , Reply# 9   7/8/2014 at 21:44 (3,550 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Probably is best to pre rinse and or wash items with egg/protein and or starch soils, especially if you are going to let them sit awhile before running the machine.
In theory chlorine bleach breaks down protein soils but enzyme based automatic dishwasher detergents do a better job. Also the enzyme products can start will cooler water to avoid "cooking" on the protein as well. If this is one of the "one arm bandit" KitchenAid dishwashers there are several posts in the archives about loading and washing results. Some members loved theirs, others found it not to their liking. What does seem important is that water must be able to reach everywhere from below. It seems obvious yes I know but guess sometimes what we think won't block spray from reaching above in practice does. |
Post# 769269 , Reply# 10   7/8/2014 at 22:08 (3,550 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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Hi Laundress,
The machine has two wash arms and the detergent I have been using is this. I have two boxes of it left. |
Post# 769270 , Reply# 11   7/8/2014 at 22:09 (3,550 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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Post# 769271 , Reply# 12   7/8/2014 at 22:10 (3,550 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)   |   | |
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Post# 769320 , Reply# 14   7/9/2014 at 05:02 (3,550 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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When I found my KDS-20 at Habitat it looked like it had been "rode hard and put away wet." That poor thing had a piece of plywood as the front panel, the inside was literally orange from the rust in the water, the drain valve leaked like crazy and the water feed tube to the upper wash arm had a huge gash on the underside.
I cleaned her up, repaired the other two issues and that thing has been running like a champ ever since. I don't pre-rinse for the most part. The only pre-rinsing done at my house is by my little helper below. LOL. As I was looking through my pictures I found this one where one of my smoothie glasses was in the corner and came out clean. I wonder if maybe the way I had it loaded, it was getting washing power from the lower wash arm?
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