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Post# 777291 8/14/2014 at 07:01 (3,532 days old) by polkanut  (Wausau, WI ) |
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 Yesterday we discovered that our 12yo Whirlpool Gold dw is pretty much DOA. It seems a seal had been leaking, and the pump and motor are shot. By the time the costs of the parts and labor are totaled up, I have a feeling a new dw may be in our very near future.
We currently have the "dreaded" almond/bisque stove, fridge, and dw. My wife is insistent that any new dw match the other appliances. That really narrows the choices of currently available new machines.
After looking online last evening and doing some comparison shopping, we found a dw we both can agree on. It's a GE Model GDF520PGDCC. From the reviews I've read it seems like this is a middle of the road model. The reviewers were all over the place from really great things to say about it to possibly the worst POS they've ever used.
The best price I've been able to find is @ Sears for $373.00. The GE website lists them @ $499 MSRP.
It has all the options our current WP Gold has with the exception of a china/crystal cycle, but that I can live without.
Need your input guys!!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO polkanut's LINK This post was last edited 08/14/2014 at 07:34 | ||
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Post# 777302 , Reply# 1 8/14/2014 at 08:12 (3,532 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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 I know a couple of people that have these new GE dishwashers and are perfectly happy with them. The price is reasonable and performance is reputed to be pretty good overall. Being new, I was curious how they would rate in the last CR tests and they held respectable enough positions, slightly above the midpoint. CR also recommended a couple of the Kenmore models and a Bosch at a reasonable (< $600) price point too, do they come in Almond? That color limitation is a tough hurdle and will likely only get harder as time goes on.
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Post# 777362 , Reply# 2 8/14/2014 at 17:00 (3,532 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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Greg, I completely agree about the color issue. That was the one thing my wife insisted on. I'm glad to see that it is in the upper middle of the pack as far as performance. Sears currently has this model on sale for $373, but I'm still a firm believer in buying local. I will however take a printout of the listing from Sears' website, and use it as a bargaining tool when we go to Hargrave Appliance in Merrill, WI tomorrow. | ||
| Post# 777363 , Reply# 3 8/14/2014 at 17:38 (3,532 days old) by italmex (milano) | ||
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Balay company makes Bosch dishwasher and now GE to. Same quality. | ||
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Post# 777365 , Reply# 4 8/14/2014 at 18:05 (3,532 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Wrong! At least for the EU, all Bosch DW are BSH manufactured. For the US, I can only ensure that all models with a full stainless steal tub (so no plastic bottom) are still pure Bosch made DW. | ||
| Post# 777371 , Reply# 5 8/14/2014 at 19:18 (3,532 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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Post# 777375 , Reply# 6 8/14/2014 at 20:00 (3,532 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Dishwashers
Hi Tim, is your current WP gold DW a tall tub or regular tub model? and what is the general overall condition of the DW, also have you been happy with the current DW?.
These are all questions that need to be considered before considering replacement, it very well might make sense to replace OR it might make more sense to fix the 12 YO WP. I have NOT been impressed with the new GE DWs that I have installed in the price range you are considering, I have sold and installed several and will go out of my way to not sell another, they are about as badly built as Frigidaire DWs. If you really want to replace I would get a Maytag DW. John L. | ||
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Post# 777378 , Reply# 7 8/14/2014 at 20:26 (3,532 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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If you really want to replace I would get a Maytag DW.  | ||
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Post# 777421 , Reply# 8 8/15/2014 at 07:13 (3,531 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Aren't Maytag DWs just Re-badged Whirlpools ?
Yes, all MT, Amana, and KA DWS come out of the Findley Ohio Factory, but the MTs are all the older tall tub design with the powerful motor, food chopper, and they wash everything all the time [ no silly diverter valve to fail, and the DV is proving to be troublesome part of these new DWs ]. Until recently at least you could get KA branded models either way, and all WP and Amana branded DWs have the new filter system. Several AW folks have given these WP built MT DWs great reviews here lately.
So we have been selling a lot of MT DWs, it is sort of ironic as I was never a big fan of the older MT DWs, yes Maytag built some good DWs in there day but for what they cost I always sold customers a KA or a higher end WP. John L. | ||
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Post# 777423 , Reply# 9 8/15/2014 at 07:39 (3,531 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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John, | ||
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Post# 777429 , Reply# 10 8/15/2014 at 08:23 (3,531 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia) |
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Can you get dishwashers with replaceable decorator panels? Then you could get one with an almond replaceable panel for now, and change to white or stainless as other appliances get replaced. Does your wife actually prefer the almond, or is it just a question of keeping it all matching? | ||
| Post# 777430 , Reply# 11 8/15/2014 at 08:32 (3,531 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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you could always paint the diwasher panel almond
Hello polknut,
you could always paint the dishwasher almond because the only way you would get a almond dishwasher today is by going vintage unless you negotiate with the store clerck and special order an almond dishwasher would be to consider a vintage model newer modern models the only color options are white black or stainless steel we do not see much almond appliance anymore unless you have a custom panel made or paint it with appliance paint the only color thats close to almond today is bisque as seen in the link i am posting CLICK HERE TO GO TO pierreandreply4's LINK
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| Post# 777436 , Reply# 12 8/15/2014 at 09:27 (3,531 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Painting! | ||
| Post# 777447 , Reply# 13 8/15/2014 at 10:24 (3,531 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
painting voiding the warranty. | ||
| Post# 777451 , Reply# 14 8/15/2014 at 11:31 (3,531 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
I too have a newer Maytag dishwasher, MDB4709, which in the update has been transitioned to MDB4949SDE. They changed the sump/pump assembly to the new Whirlpool design, but instead of a removable filter, they've instead put a self-cleaning accumulator filter assembly. They don't have the diverter valve, they have a full-size motor instead of the tiny magnetic induction motors like the WP/KA counterparts, and there is still a four-blade soft food disposal, just as combo52 said.
I have been extremely pleased with mine. In the year we've had it, I've not pulled out a dish with even a speck or a greasy residue on it, and the tub stays spotless. My only small complaint was that I'm not a fan of the tiered upper rack, and that goes for any dishwasher, because I never load tall pans and such, so to me there's just a lot of wasted space between the top of the plates and the wash arm. Most people seem not to have a problem with it though. These machines are insanely quiet, despite what CR would say. Unless your bed is right next to it, I'm confident that only uppity people who think that hearing a machine do chores is just barbaric would think otherwise. Normal cycles are not that long either. Usually 1.5 hours or so, and that's with only scraping dishes. Ironically, I recently came across a 2001 WP PowerClean (standard tub) in beautiful condition, most likely the same design as the machine you're looking to replace. I've wanted one of these for years, because they are a perfect all-around machine. Fool-proof and powerful wash system, great loading flexibility, sensibly water and energy efficient (a Normal cycle uses ~5 gallons, right in toe with the "eco" machines of today), and despite having a 1/3 HP motor and the power of a hurricane inside, they're very quiet, with only a soothing hum and the very muffled sound of water cascading around. I've never known of a PC to perform poorly unless the operator had no common-sense at all. After some time disassembling the machine completely and reconditioning all the parts and seals, and rebuilding it from the ground up with certain updated parts from the 2006 PowerCleans, it's now installed in my kitchen as a basically brand new machine, and hasn't had a single hiccup so far. The new Maytag is now "packaged" up and is stored in one of our spare closets, so that down the road should parts become impossible to find on the Whirlpool, I'll have another great dishwasher to take its place, and being brand new, it will be much easier to replace parts on it years from now. Who knows what atrocities will be on the dishwasher market by that time. | ||
| Post# 777453 , Reply# 15 8/15/2014 at 11:41 (3,531 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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If it's just the pump system that is shot, you can buy the entire assembly for ~$160. It's a fairly easy procedure to replace it, as long as you follow the instructions exactly, and make sure you're thorough with cleaning the opening in the bottom of the tub after removing the old one. A ton of gunk can accumulate here after years of use, and not cleaning it will cause leaks. Here's a link to one on RepairClinic.
www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/b... In my opinion, I'm not impressed with GE's new dishwashers in the least. We stayed in a condo with a pretty high-end stainless model, inside and out. Even with a full load of dishes it was annoyingly loud. In dB ratings it probably isn't much at all, but instead of a quiet hum and a slight water sound from the inside, it sounded like kids were inside squirting water guns at the walls, and you could tell every time it switched wash arms. It had all of its insulation and panels intact as far as I could see. They may work perfectly for some people, but to me it didn't hold a candle to what I've come to expect from an older WP or the Maytag. | ||
| Post# 777454 , Reply# 16 8/15/2014 at 12:38 (3,531 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania) | ||
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Isn't Ge selling it's appliance division? I would be worried about buying anything Ge because of this. I suppose, on the other hand, by the time the sale goes through and things get sorted you might own the DW for a few years anyway...so maybe nothing to worry about. Still this sale would be on my mind because it shows a lack of commitment to appliances from GE. | ||
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Post# 777573 , Reply# 17 8/16/2014 at 08:16 (3,530 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Painting A New DW | ||
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Post# 777586 , Reply# 18 8/16/2014 at 10:49 (3,530 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 777589 , Reply# 19 8/16/2014 at 11:34 (3,530 days old) by verizonbear (Glen Burnie ) | ||
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Post# 777632 , Reply# 20 8/16/2014 at 17:51 (3,530 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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This morning we traveled to Merrill which is about 15 miles north of Wausau to look at machines at Hargrave Appliance where we've bought all of our major appliances in the past. Well, in our opinion the quality of the sales staff has gone completely down the tubes. The young chic was more interested in texting whomever than dealing with live customers. Unfortunately, she was the only salesperson working today. She kept trying to tell us to get rid of all our current almond appliances, and go with either stainless steel or black. Neither one of us care for stainless or black. We told her we would go home and think it over. We then headed straight for Gruett's Appliance on Merrill's west side. The saleswoman couldn't have been more helpful, and they had the exact model on display that we had previously looked at online at home. We did get the GE Model GDF520PGDCC in bisque. Gruett's does service what they sell, and have been an authorized GE dealer for over 90 years. CLICK HERE TO GO TO polkanut's LINK | ||
| Post# 777728 , Reply# 21 8/17/2014 at 10:37 (3,529 days old) by retropia () | ||
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Congrats! Let us know how you like the new GE dishwasher. | ||
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Post# 818237 , Reply# 22 4/9/2015 at 09:12 (3,294 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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| Post# 818243 , Reply# 23 4/9/2015 at 09:47 (3,294 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Detergent Cup | ||
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Post# 818272 , Reply# 24 4/9/2015 at 12:52 (3,294 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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Malcolm, | ||
| Post# 818310 , Reply# 25 4/9/2015 at 18:07 (3,294 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania ) | ||
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Post# 818432 , Reply# 26 4/10/2015 at 09:16 (3,293 days old) by polkanut (Wausau, WI ) |
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Sam, | ||
| Post# 818455 , Reply# 27 4/10/2015 at 11:07 (3,293 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania ) | ||
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Post# 818458 , Reply# 28 4/10/2015 at 11:15 (3,293 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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I guess my near 8 y/o KM TT that uses 5.9 gallons on normal is considered a waterr hog now. I've hd very rare issues with powders remaining in cup undissolved. If one uses only pods, what about prewash detergent with extremely heavily soiled loads?
OMG!! I think hell just froze over. Sam bought a modern dishwasher. | ||
| Post# 818487 , Reply# 29 4/10/2015 at 13:45 (3,293 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania ) | ||
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