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Post# 778503   8/21/2014 at 18:05 (3,528 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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It seems like there was an abrupt stop to the use of any lint filtering system over the past 10-15 years, manually or automatically cleaning, but why? It's not as though clothes no longer produce lint, unless I'm just shopping in the wrong places.
This thought struck me after we bought a set of eight solid white bath towels the other day, 100% cotton. Now, they aren't fancy, as it was an 8-pack from Sam's Club, but I've been wanting us to have towels that were hotel-style, great at absorbing, and easily sanitized now and again through a bleach run. Of course, I put all eight into the washer immediately, with hot water and detergent. During the rinse I poured in a cup of vinegar to rid them of any factory oils and public funk that stuck to them while in the store. When they were dried, I could have stuffed a pillow with the fluffy lint build-up on the dryer filter. I put them through a couple of 30-minute air tumble cycles just to loosen and catch as much as I could. Upon use, they still of course have some fluffies that stick in your hair and fall all over the floor. I realized then: All the lint and fluff that rubs off in the washer just floats around with the towels, and when it's all done, what hasn't gone down the drain is left stuck to either the towels or the tub and interior. The new WP belt-drive I have has no lint management system at all. I took the agitator off a while back, and where the openings would have normally been for water flow through the "MagicClean" filter, or the round finger-style inserts that came about later, there are just tiny little slits, which ironically were all plugged with tiny fibers from the water that was pulled from the unaltered vanes on the hidden underside of the agitator. There is also no filter assembly underneath the basket according to the diagrams. I've noticed that every newer machine (that I've researched or am aware of) has no form of lint catcher. Even the 2002 Maytag MAV I have over at my father-in-law's is the same, which actually did cause issues in regards to linty towels and the like. I wonder why they now deem lint filters unnecessary in machines. The trend for dishwashers lately is to have manually cleaned filters, which is the opposite method I'd want for handling nasty food bits and grime, yet I'd be perfectly happy tapping a washing machine filter into a garbage can, or better yet, knowing that the washer will catch it and then flush it down the drain automatically, especially when I'm washing the dog's bedding or towels used to bathe him. No matter how much you shake outside, there's always the endless battle of wiping out leftover hair in the washer's tub, and that much more to block up the filter in the dryer. |
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Post# 778520 , Reply# 2   8/21/2014 at 19:14 (3,528 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 778577 , Reply# 3   8/21/2014 at 22:42 (3,528 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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My belief is that lint filters in washers was a way the manufacturers would use a screen ,brush or perforated tray or pan to catch any loose fabric the vigorous agitation would cause. They also used it as a step up feature on different models to make more of a profit. I,personally saw no real use for it other then to increase profit and use as a sales tool. If that isn't true and lint filters are a must to have with washers,they'd have them today. Especially top load agitator type washers.
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Post# 778580 , Reply# 4   8/21/2014 at 23:48 (3,528 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Those are all great points, especially yours washman haha. I had quite a chuckle at that. Still, with that logic being completely true, it strikes me as even more odd that it is now common to have a manual filter in a dishwasher. It is much easier to pop out a tray/cup/what-have-you from a waist high machine than to get down on the floor to twist out the screen from the bottom of a tall tub dishwasher.
It would seem to me that filtering some of the excess lint would actually help the dryer's airflow, increasing its efficiency. I know there was a big difference between when we had our KitchenAid with the MagicClean filter versus after we got the Maytag Atlantis with no filter, at least in the dryer's case, particularly with towels. The top mounted filter, which has much more capacity and surface area than a front mounter, would be absolutely packed. It also seems that eco-minded people would prefer to have a way to reduce the amount of lint going down the drain and into the water system. It would at least be a very helpful feature to be incorporated into washers with recirculation pumps as a solution when washing pet bedding and new clothes. I created a make-shift, albeit temporary, solution last night when rewashing the new towels in an attempt to reduce the lint even further. The WP being electronic, I've memorized the dial combination to put the machine into manual diagnostics mode, and at that point can control any aspect of the machine at will, be it fill valves, agitation, spin, drain pump, and all at the same time if desired. So, I got an old mesh screened kitchen sink strainer, pulled the drain hose around so that it could go back into the tub, filled the tub with the towels added, and let it agitate. I then started the drain pump and let the water flow back into the washer through the screen, catching layers upon layers of fuzz from the towels, cleaning the screen while letting the drain pump rest for a bit at a time. By the time I got tired of doing it, I had a nice golf ball shaped wad of wet lint, and the fuzz was still coming. The dryer's filter, again, came out looking like a dense cloud. |
Post# 778606 , Reply# 7   8/22/2014 at 07:00 (3,527 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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More man-made fibers, processing and coating/treatments of the "natural" clothing fibers reduce the amount of linting significantly.
Most U.S. washer users have an automatic tumble-dryer so whatever small amount of lint makes it that far is abraded away by the tumbling action and trapped in the dryer's lint catcher. Active lint filtering wasn't necessarily a gimmick if you hung most of your clothes on the line to dry, but those days are past. At least for now. |
Post# 778656 , Reply# 8   8/22/2014 at 09:35 (3,527 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)   |   | |
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My LG front loader (WM0642) has a catcher basket that pulls out from the lower front of the machine (not the washing compartment, it's accessed from the front panel)that catches lint, but seems to be mainly meant to catch coins, buttons and other misc debris before it gets into the pump and causes major damage. I've only pulled it out once or twice and the lint collected on it is always minimal. Certain loads, however will generate serious lint in the dryer. My wackadoo theory is that newer washers (front-loaders, at least) have a much more gentle action on the clothes, so less lint is put off, whereas dryers are still basically the same and the clothes have a lot more friction off each other as they tumble, so more lint is generated. That, or Bigfoot gets to the washer lint ahead of me while he is stealing single socks. ;)
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Post# 778657 , Reply# 9   8/22/2014 at 09:44 (3,527 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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I know my SQ washer has a filter under the washbasket. That said it's rather useless in some ways since I do line dry and the lint I get from that washer is eye opening. My GE front loader on the other hand does a better job at filtering since it uses the wash vanes to sweep the lwater of lint.
Malcolm is right I also read in a GE washer manual that if you have linting issues, a dryer will take care of it. New towels will shed lint like crazy, the worst offenders that I ever encountered were The Big One towels that are sold at Kohls. No matter how many times I washed them when I got them, they still filled the lint filter of the dryer, and they had loose lint on the surface of the towels. After a month of washing I still got mega lint....I still have the towels and they don't shed anywhere near what they did new...but they are not as thick either. |
Post# 778674 , Reply# 10   8/22/2014 at 12:31 (3,527 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)   |   | |
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You are right, nmassman44! By their nature, terry towels will shed a lot of lint the first several times through the wash. I learned long ago not to mix loads of my good towels because they come out covered with contrasting lint. I have a couple sets of super thick Ralph Lauren towels that are several years old, but are good as new, and they hardly give off lint in the dryer any more. On the other hand, I had a set of Wamsutta towels that I got when Filene's was clearing out old merchandise to make way for Macy's. They seem like they shed themselves to death. They don't seem nearly as thick as when they were new, and I quit using them because they wouldn't dry us off after a shower.
I miss the Royal Velvet towels I used to snag on clearance with my employee discount when I worked at LS Ayres in Fort Wayne. Most of them are still around, but nothing is a matched set, so they are all just spares now. |
Post# 778681 , Reply# 11   8/22/2014 at 12:57 (3,527 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 778773 , Reply# 13   8/22/2014 at 19:49 (3,527 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Are there to protect the pump from items such as buttons, coins, hair pins, etc... that might cause damage. Some do a better job of catching lint than others besides, but still.
Speaking as one who recently spent several days with a backed up sink drain that nothing would solve until a man was called out, laundry water should not be allowed to drain "unfiltered". It took the man over an hour with an electric powered snake to dislodge the mass blocking our drains. Turns out it was deep into the pipes inside the walls. When he pulled the snake out afterwards could see what one could tell were bits of lint and God only knows what else. Have various filters that fit over the sink drain to catch lint, but one did get sloppy about using. It became such a bore because after one or two of the six changes of water by the Miele the things would be clogged. If not cleared you'd have an overflow situation. This is more apparent with the Miele than say the OKO-Lavamat because the former uses five gallons for the "Normal" wash and ten or so for each of the five rinses. OTOH the Lavamat is much more frugal. Have taken to simply covering the end of washer drain hose with half a pair of nylons. Use a twist tie to keep the thing secured and it works a treat. Far cheaper as well than what one gets at the shops. All methods of washing laundry produce lint. Tumble loaders perhaps less so than beaters/agitators but never the less lint is created and it is not a good idea to send it down the drains. Of course if one has a sink/drains dedicated to just laundry the perhaps the clogging issue will be lessened. But if using the kitchen sink or any other were greases, fats, oils, bits of food, dishwasher drains, etc.... then you risk combining lint with that lot. Sooner or later you are going to have the mother of all clogs. |
Post# 913915 , Reply# 20   1/4/2017 at 11:12 (2,661 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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This is only my opinion with no specific proof to back it up.
The GE Filter-flo was more efficient at handling lint not because of the filter pan, but because of the spin-drain. Same with Maytag. When we moved to a house and had a Whirlpool neutral drain, you would find a layer of lint on top of your clothes. |
Post# 913919 , Reply# 21   1/4/2017 at 11:33 (2,661 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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That makes a fairly valid point that solid tub washers with overflow rinse and spin out at the top of the tub does get rid of lint. |
Post# 913945 , Reply# 23   1/4/2017 at 14:33 (2,661 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Was the neutral drain system. Was told it didn't make a difference and or the spray rinses both after wash cycle and or final rinse would assist. This and or the dryer is where much lint was removed anyway. But still didn't like the thing.
One didn't notice much on whites/lights, but dark or black items came out of the wash coated with lint, not all of which was removed by dryer. Going back years good laundry practice dictated *not* to drain water through laundry. One good thing about wringer washers was that one lifted things from mucky water and thus left much of the lint, scum, dirt, hard water minerals, or whatever behind. I believe overflow rinsing on some automatic washers was, in theory, meant to provide same benefits. |
Post# 913949 , Reply# 24   1/4/2017 at 14:52 (2,661 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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anyone remember the old brush lint filter on older whirlpool inglis washers those would be a pain to clean before they switch to bed nail type lin filters credit to original members who originaly posted these pictures that i saved on my pc
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Post# 914006 , Reply# 25   1/4/2017 at 19:41 (2,661 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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I've not noticed lint to be an issue for all the 37 years that my clothes were washed exclusively in Whirlpool-made neutral-drain machines and the occasional instances following ... including 8+ years of Calypso which technically is a neutral-drain machine and technically strains all the wash and rinse water through the clothes. |
Post# 914059 , Reply# 26   1/5/2017 at 03:10 (2,661 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 914068 , Reply# 28   1/5/2017 at 06:12 (2,660 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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I wonder if a manual clean lint filter made people with suds savers feel better about reusing wash water? |
Post# 914111 , Reply# 29   1/5/2017 at 13:25 (2,660 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Associated with suds return washing machines, those who sought them out had their reasons. Many were either die hard wringer/conventional washer users, or needed to conserve water (hot and or cold) for various reasons. As such don't think lint the lint issue (manual filter or no) was a huge issue for such persons.
After all if they had come from using a wringer washer (or worse, doing the wash manually with tubs), they knew what they were getting when wash water was reused in terms of lint/muck. |
Post# 914844 , Reply# 30   1/9/2017 at 21:53 (2,656 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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We have pets and there is zero question but what the Filterflos do an enormously better job of catching lint than does the Maytag, which is pretty good compared to the Whirlpools with their useless 'magic' filter. It's easily seen when we put the clothes in the dryer - there's less lint with a load washed in the GE Filterflos than with the others. It does make a difference, especially with pet hair. Worth noting: Many European detergents have enzymes which eat damaged cellulose pretty well.
I don't care what anyone says, the facts arebest lint removal - GE Filterflo, Maytag, Thumper with overflo rinses and then useless Whirlpool 'magic'. |
Post# 914853 , Reply# 31   1/9/2017 at 22:36 (2,656 days old) by Lowefficiency (Iowa)   |   | |
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I'll second the pet hair comments. A load of Guinea Pig bedding will bring any lint filter to its knees. Getting as much of it caught at the wash stage as possible is about the only way it's even feasible. There's just too much fine hair, on too large of a surface area, for a dryer to be able to catch or remove it all.
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Post# 915031 , Reply# 33   1/10/2017 at 22:12 (2,655 days old) by arris (Rochester New York)   |   | |
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I asked this same question a few years ago and was informed by John ( Combo52 ) when detergents removed " Phosphates " it caused the lint filters to become gooey and plug up...... could also be from the comments mentioned above.... I would like to see them come back....If washing pet items the hair seems to either end up in the bottom of the tub, or ball on the fabric... which led me to finding this site,and find a washer with a lint filter to prevent that as well as cutting down on lint when hanging cloths on the line in the warmer months....
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Post# 915061 , Reply# 34   1/11/2017 at 05:37 (2,654 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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A sticky tape lint roller can be a wonderful thing when it comes to pet hair. I learned that in my dry cleaning days. |
Post# 953642 , Reply# 35   8/19/2017 at 20:46 (2,434 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 953713 , Reply# 36   8/20/2017 at 16:03 (2,433 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Used the agitator with metal lint filter, and whoever said those things didn't "work" must never have used one.
The linens (two sheets and a duvet cover) were from a neighbor who is feeling poorly and couldn't get out to laundromat. Me being me, and having enough equipment at present to start a laundry volunteered. However since one knows this person has a cat, the things were not going into the Miele or AEG. When all was said and done, after pulling the agitator out to clean and dry, took the metal mesh lint filter out as well. It was covered in hairs! Cleaning the thing was not fun, and even later today after the thing was dry a few hairs remained, but still am rather impressed. |
Post# 953778 , Reply# 37   8/21/2017 at 04:45 (2,433 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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a lint filter on a washing machine since growing up with our Lady Kenmore TL washer. I remember in the mid 80s, that was replaced with a WP TL washer that had a "self cleaning" filter, although I never knew how it actually worked. Whatever it was was invisible.
I just washed some brand new shirts yesterday and the amount of lint on the dryer screen was crazy. That's usually always the case with new items though....some worse than others. Usually after a couple of washes there's just your normal amount of lint on the dryer screen. |
Post# 953853 , Reply# 38   8/21/2017 at 13:06 (2,432 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 954113 , Reply# 40   8/23/2017 at 07:30 (2,430 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 954295 , Reply# 41   8/24/2017 at 00:33 (2,430 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)   |   | |
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Thank you Laundress. It does explain it better. I'd like to rig something up on my SQ, just to try it!! |
Post# 954393 , Reply# 43   8/24/2017 at 17:46 (2,429 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Was thinking about the whole agitator lint filter and Maytag wringers and thought of you; well your tag name at least. *LOL*
The "gyrafoam" washing action of Maytag washers, in particular the conventional versions sent currents of water towards center of tub, down and out/up the sides. As such a lint filter in center of agitator is well places to catch muck as currents of water pass through. Of the disadvantages one immediate comes to mind; use as a dispenser for powdered detergents. So far have had to scrub out both of mine mostly about hard water scale and crusted detergent powder build-up than lint. Just what kind of water do people have outside of New York anyway? *LOL* The other thing is best to clean these lint filters while they are still wet, and do so thoroughly. Once things dry and or start to cake/build up the chore becomes that much more difficult. |
Post# 954397 , Reply# 45   8/24/2017 at 18:07 (2,429 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I have a 58 Whirlpool set. I took apart the washer and observed the self cleaning lint filter. Its a black rubber affair with internal "teeth". I guess at some point it reverse flushes to send the lint down the drain.
To me, those lint socks one puts on a drajn hose would only serve a purpose for a suds saver washer. Otherwise they are just a PITA when they fill up and start spraying water out of the sink though the few remaining orifices. |
Post# 954399 , Reply# 46   8/24/2017 at 18:16 (2,429 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 954459 , Reply# 47   8/25/2017 at 10:37 (2,428 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Those lint filters on Maytags DID work quite well.
Until the detergents were changed. My parents' LA511 that's still kicking, has a fully plugged up lint filter. I've given up cleaning it. My parents have given up checking it, which is fine because it's fully plugged and no longer functions. I'm not sure what happened, but today's detergents have rendered the center filter useless. |
Post# 954465 , Reply# 48   8/25/2017 at 12:34 (2,428 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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Soak it in some "lime away" and it will restore it to original. |
Post# 955748 , Reply# 49   9/2/2017 at 12:07 (2,420 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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I wish that there were a comeback for the manual-clean filter!
Yes, all that lint my washer puts down the drain took its ultimate toll: Roto Rooter had to come out to snake my drain (& because of a few other plumbing fixtures, like the sinks, toilets, bath/shower, dishwasher etc. were also responsible) just to find disposable wipes were also too much for the plumbing to handle (although that black fibers material looked like something my brother-in-law would'a flushed down)... -- Dave |
Post# 955773 , Reply# 50   9/2/2017 at 16:49 (2,420 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Probably a result of hard water minerals and the amounts of washing soda, Zeolites and other substances used to replace phosphates when that substance was removed.
The Lime-A-Way suggestion is a good one, or just soak in a container filled with white vinegar. Soak for a few hours or so until you see most of all of the muck/gunk has dissolved. Afterwards a good scrubbing with a stiff brush (old toothbrush is fine), will help get at the rest. Rinse well and viola, you'll have nice clean filter. Going forward if switching to liquid detergents isn't in the cards, then it is vital that the Maytag filter be cleaned after each wash day. As stated previously if done while still wet and muck is fresh the job is far easier. Again a toothbrush is your best friend for this sort of job. |
Post# 955895 , Reply# 51   9/3/2017 at 12:16 (2,419 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)   |   | |
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Post# 955901 , Reply# 52   9/3/2017 at 12:39 (2,419 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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while growing up i have know during my childhood 2 washers first being the magic mix brush type lint filter (inglis superb) washer that my mom had bough when she was pregnant with me second washer whirlpool nail bed easy clean lint filter the direct drive washer my mom and i own was self cleaning but i think the best lint filter was and always will be the famous ge filter flo washer much easyer to clean
if ge decided to make as a special anevesary special editon filter flo washer how would you see it in today era? |
Post# 964719 , Reply# 53   10/28/2017 at 17:02 (2,364 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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I remember an issue of Consumer Reports reviewing only the most hi-end, upper-class machines, consisting of Whirlpool, Kitchen Aid & Maytag (& a forth brand that I don't remember which, just don't think it was Sears) of which the Maytag "had a manual filter that had to be cleaned periodically", and the only one in the line-up--in fact probably one of the last of the push-button models (vertical & non-center-dial, white-on-white (or choice of Almond) finish)...
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Post# 964819 , Reply# 54   10/29/2017 at 13:07 (2,363 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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Whirlpool "tragic-mix" brush. Am I the only person in the world that used a Brastemp with a brush-type filter (chrome, glass, and a soft brush instead of the "bed of nails") and had it looking like new for nearly 30 years and had it clean in seconds and super easily? Just shake it under a fully open faucet. simple! The Brastemp manual even mentioned that. |
Post# 964833 , Reply# 55   10/29/2017 at 15:11 (2,363 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I had a few machines with those MagicMixDispenser's....
super cool to watch with or without it in place..... and yeah, sometimes a pain to clean.....we used a fine metal brush from one of the pets, cleaned it with ease... the bed of nails did seem to catch more lint....a simple whack on the inside of the trash can cleaned it in an instant.... |
Post# 964846 , Reply# 57   10/29/2017 at 16:45 (2,363 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I wonder if fabric softener would help with 'fur' in some cases.....
Fler, TLer, HE, NonHE......lint filter, self clean, even leaving the filter out.... dryer or line dry..... never had an issue with per fur..... a lot of times you will find me SudsSaving into another machine to wash the dogs blankets and/or cleaning rags..... just one of those things, one person will have an issue, while another does not....can't explain it... I have always had Siberians, this is my 5th one....and they have a double coat to deal with..... |
Post# 967013 , Reply# 59   11/9/2017 at 11:19 (2,352 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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I remember being so fascinated w/ my mom's putting a nylon pantyhose stocking on the end of her washing machine hose, that I think i'd begun asking EVERYONE, if they (or more often their MOTHER) did this?
(People sure though it was funny & enough to imagine it was ME wanting to wear nylon pantyhose!) Of course, there was really no need to, since all her washer's except her newest & latest HAD manual-clean lint filters as did the majority... Me, I wonder why in all those streams of water I've watched (as in "Watchin' The River Flow") I wonder why I never see the lint in the stream, yet it collects around my laundry tub drain, as I've seen ready to clog drains of other laundry tubs... I've been dually neglectful enough of my lint-cleaning around-the-drain task, that my tub has even over-flooded, overflowed...! But I am thinking w/ some super high-powered drain cleaner (and we've recently gotten our drain/sewer-line cleaned--SNAKED, at that) that I have changed THIS: --To THIS: -- Dave |
Post# 967269 , Reply# 60   11/11/2017 at 03:13 (2,351 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)   |   | |
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I bet your laundry sink would LOVE a sponge, some elbow grease, maybe a steam cleaner... LOL |
Post# 968062 , Reply# 61   11/15/2017 at 08:29 (2,346 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Unfortunately we are overdue for a new tub--we can't even use the faucets on it, as the valves are fairly hard to turn, but at least it doesn't leak...
Here, however, is the water doubling up & doubly overflowing all over the laundry room floor, as there was some tell-tale dampness when ever I had done large loads (my bedding is what is "in transit" in the laundry room right now, so high water-level usage, indeed!)... -- Dave |
Post# 968064 , Reply# 62   11/15/2017 at 08:30 (2,346 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Unfortunately we are overdue for a new tub--we can't even use the faucets on it, as the valves are fairly hard to turn, but at least it doesn't leak...
Here, however, is the water doubling up & doubly overflowing all over the laundry room floor, as there was some tell-tale dampness when ever I had done large loads (my bedding is what is "in transit" in the laundry room right now, so high water-level usage, indeed!)... -- Dave |
Post# 968069 , Reply# 63   11/15/2017 at 08:40 (2,346 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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an interesting thought came up....pertaining to lint filters, especially those in laundromats.....
Maytags didn't install them for coin-op use.... Whirlpool/Kenmores...belt drive and DD had self cleaning ones.... Frigidaire and Speed Queen had overflow filter/rinsing....not sure but I think Norge's were the same...people loved the constant overflow during rinse... GE filterflo's....either the filterflo was capped off, or they actually included the filter pans, some missing, some used as Frisbees, some didn't put them in place... |
Post# 968102 , Reply# 64   11/15/2017 at 12:41 (2,346 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 968143 , Reply# 66   11/15/2017 at 16:25 (2,346 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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force of habit with Flers is to wash everything together without a flinch....
whites, lights, darks, colors.....towels, jeans, mentionables, sheets, shirts...just about foolproof washing.... but when I feel like changing to a vintage TLer, sometimes I forget to separate, and come across a few issues... YMMV |
Post# 968643 , Reply# 68   11/18/2017 at 02:45 (2,344 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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I am with Norgeway--OLDER MACINES RULE!!!!!!Wish I had the space would stock up on older ones,too.The new RR for washers,dishwashers are RIDICULOUS--------TIME TO REPEAL them!!!!Wish Trump and friends would do just that! |
Post# 968693 , Reply# 69   11/18/2017 at 10:22 (2,343 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 969069 , Reply# 70   11/20/2017 at 08:49 (2,341 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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As they say:
"Do your own dirty work!" So rather than let the drain get plugged-up & wreck my plumbing evermore, here's a lint trap that I've installed on my drain hose--from a packet of 3, just about 70-cents more than a packet of 2... (Notice also, the drain cleaner, drain auger & even a wire clothes hanger provided a clean sink, too--least that area around the drain got lint-free, the water draining out completely as well!) I worked in a laundry, so cleaning these screens, twice the size of a dryer lint screen & three times as heavy (& the dryers there had lint traps that you swept out with a small broom) was about as important as preventing the laundry from flooding (as it did numerous times--as there was one power surge from one of the washers threatening to cut the power to that area of the building, w/ the washer's "done" alarm on, and everything)... So rather than endure more of that water flooding across the floor going to the "emergency drain" and carrying very visible lint with it on its way to clogging it up again, I splurged on self-cleaning lint filter-lint filters: -- Dave |
Post# 969083 , Reply# 71   11/20/2017 at 11:45 (2,341 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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your off to a good start Dave....but I still wouldn't go within 10 feet of that sink....think I would have to scrub it, or toss it in place for a new one....
I use a mesh basket I got from FiveBelow, mainly because I have several machines to filter....plus I can take this outside and backflush it with the hose... I would also be concerned of your hose popping out of that sink....I hope you have secured from underneath at least.....yeah, you don't need a flood...
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Post# 969231 , Reply# 72   11/21/2017 at 07:41 (2,340 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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What an ingenious idea Yogi--a bike basket-shaped filter for your multiple machines...
I could have just made do with a stand-pipe as that tub doesn't do anything more than just be a not-quite-a-bathtub but larger than your average sink that we do not use for any kind of washing in, (the valves for the faucets are increasingly hard to turn enough that if I were to get either/both to go on, it may be impossible to stop the flow shutting it/them off) but it doesn't leak! So in short, I don't ever use it... As for "a" stand-pipe, some friends of mine long ago with their radio dial Sears Kenmore had a self-cleaning filter (it boasted on the back-guard was how I got introduced to that features, and instantly knew it was to help eliminate lint) so I got to glimpse at the pipe with the u-notch at the bottom of it sticking out of the wall behind the washer, with the draining hose going right into it, in addition to the filling hoses, power supply for it & the gas dryer next to it, w/ the gas supply line likely to be down at the floor level behind the latter, while rising from it was the exhaust pipe for it going to a side wall, sticking out of the side of the house by the side door, that served the kitchen/utility area/laundry room... Surely I would wonder and worry about that getting backed-up, and while combustable lint is flammable & hazardous for your dryer, washing machine lint & exiting water is just as much as a hazard (promoting water damage & flooding) as well... -- Dave |
Post# 971482 , Reply# 73   12/4/2017 at 12:14 (2,327 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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OK, so is it time to change mine? It did it's job, building up with all this lint after one week, but I DID replace it, so my newer one on there is thankfully filling (because of my current loads possibly producing probably less lint?) up much slower, and less telltale dampness on the floor in the surrounding area (well, NOINE, now) as the outgoing water gropes for holes in there to escape to:
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Post# 1013123 , Reply# 74   11/3/2018 at 12:51 (1,993 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Pawed around at least one of the Five-Below stores near me, and could not find a basket anywhere near what you use...
So, I'm left with dreading another load of bedding, probably going from my "Almost-All Seasons' Tan", to my "Winter's Gray", and having to rely on more money spent on store-bought filter-flter do the job (even with a gift card given to me for most-proceeds going to a recent charitable cause).... --- Dave |
Post# 1013130 , Reply# 75   11/3/2018 at 14:32 (1,993 days old) by JustJunque (Western MA)   |   | |
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That's exactly the same set-up that we have.
Washer drains into a "set tub", as we've always called it. And we buy those "Lint Snares" for the end of the drain hose. They make them in metal mesh or a plastic or nylon mesh. We buy the plastic ones when we can find them, but we've used both. I miss the old waterfall lint filter that Mom's old Whirlpool used to have, but these keep the lint out of the drain anyway. Barry |
Post# 1013135 , Reply# 76   11/3/2018 at 15:11 (1,993 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1013136 , Reply# 77   11/3/2018 at 15:13 (1,993 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1013137 , Reply# 78   11/3/2018 at 15:15 (1,993 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Target also has a number of different styles that may work for you....
I also used a brick paver under mine to keep it elevated, another idea was to use wire coat hanger to create hooks to hang the basket on the side of the laundry tub... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Yogitunes's LINK
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Post# 1014831 , Reply# 79   11/17/2018 at 21:35 (1,979 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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The AMKrayoGuy Lint-Filtering System for the anti-washer's own self-cleaning filter:
(Wonder if I've reinvented the 'most-loved feature' of vintage machines, that this should be in the Imperial forum, posted there) -- Dave |
Post# 1014833 , Reply# 80   11/17/2018 at 21:48 (1,979 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Post# 1014835 , Reply# 81   11/17/2018 at 22:01 (1,979 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Post# 1014912 , Reply# 82   11/18/2018 at 14:44 (1,978 days old) by arris (Rochester New York)   |   | |
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John L ( Combo 52 ) posted the reason in a thread here why no lint filters in washers a few years ago. One point he made was that when detergent eliminated Phosphates, it caused the self cleaning lint filters to become clogged, eventually cutting off water flow, therefore not working. And most people were drying cloths in dryers, It might not be a bad thing to re-think washer lint filters as more people are line drying, at least that's what appears on this forum....
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Post# 1015101 , Reply# 83   11/19/2018 at 22:49 (1,977 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)   |   | |
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Washed a big load of towels today. I think I need one for the SQ. Barry |
Post# 1015450 , Reply# 84   11/22/2018 at 18:49 (1,974 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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After much procrastination, and the inability to put a video here, or maybe not transferring it from my iPad to the big computer, and then maybe it would be viewable here, I just settled for some still-shots...
(Although much of my recent Online activity has been spent laying on my (aching!) back, over (well, UNDER) my "compact" internet access, so here are some still-pictures, of the complete draining-process, with the load alternating between Extra Slow for the Wash and Slow for the Rinse, which the Speed Selector knob will allow, that I was able to take!) -- Dave |
Post# 1029394 , Reply# 85   4/9/2019 at 20:24 (1,836 days old) by DaveAMkrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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The AMKrayoLintKatcher strikes again!
Thanks to what's the modern convenience of your Self-Cleaning Lint Filter, THIS could be clogging up YOUR DRAIN: Fight an on-coming expensive plumbing bill Today... -- Dave |
Post# 1161083 , Reply# 86   10/3/2022 at 20:21 (563 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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Looks like an epidemic of lint filter buying to filter the self-cleaning filters—yes we sell a lot of these on such a daily basis—why can’t there be a way to make these reusable and not costing money, creating increasing manufacturing costs and likely CLOGGING up landfills?!
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Post# 1161093 , Reply# 87   10/4/2022 at 00:24 (563 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 1161238 , Reply# 88   10/6/2022 at 17:59 (560 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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If you must laundresses suggestion is a good one.
But you would really have to have some screwed up plumbing for lint to actually clog the drain line. I have always just left the lint wash down the drain and go off with the sewage, think about what else goes down your drain system from your house lint could not possibly hurt properly functioning drain line almost nobody puts the screens on their washers anymore. John L |
Post# 1161412 , Reply# 91   10/9/2022 at 08:12 (557 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)   |   | |
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I remember the GE filter-flo. That washer would clean anything from the most delicate knits to the filthiest denims and cottons. |
Post# 1161417 , Reply# 92   10/9/2022 at 08:49 (557 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 1161440 , Reply# 93   10/9/2022 at 12:02 (557 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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My Whirlpool has the “Tragic Mix” lint filter, not that big of a deal to clean. About every couple of weeks, I’ll run it through the dishwasher and comes out spotless every single time. Self cleaning lint filters are nice when they work but can be a pain once they clog and the machine begins to stink like sewage.
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Post# 1161447 , Reply# 94   10/9/2022 at 13:45 (557 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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True backwash self cleaning lint filters as used on whirlpool and Kenmore direct Drive washers very seldom ever clog in the life of the machine and if they do you replace the filter.
It does not create any odor whatsoever if they clog, the washer simply stops draining and you replace it. Sean why would you put a linty filter in the dishwasher , dishwashers are not meant to cope with lint. You may end up causing a problem with your dishwasher. John L |
Post# 1161450 , Reply# 95   10/9/2022 at 15:21 (557 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806)   |   | |
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Post# 1162318 , Reply# 96   10/23/2022 at 09:44 (543 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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re: #88...
Yes, I agree about screwed up plumbing, so,I watch what I put down my drain, and went from a non-functioning garbage disposal, to the hex key saving the day, and a replacement or just repair... A family I knew had a stand-pipe for its Kenmore with a self-cleaning filter washer to drain into, with reportedly not one back-up or overflow, and if I'm not mistaken one house I grew up in had a stand pipe too... The filters advise against using in drains that are direct pipes too... I notice threads around the drain, and even cutting them away, still notice, so I'm trying after buying a couple packs of filters to discontinue their use--one is still unopened while the other has one missng and discarded after its use being completely loaded with lint... So me knowing what kinds of loads produce excessive lint--my daughter's guinea pig linen, will just only place the filters on my drainhose when washing them--as she's gone from completely doing the task herself to making me add on to my busy, daily schedule... -- Dave |