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Post# 779821   8/28/2014 at 00:04 (3,501 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)        

For those of you who own a modern frontloading machine, I was wondering what the cycle sequence is. On the normal cycle does it do a wash and one rinse, or a wash and 2 rinses?




Post# 779836 , Reply# 1   8/28/2014 at 04:20 (3,500 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Might not call 1998 "modern" but my Electrofrigiwhite does standard or extended wash, spray prerinse/sudskill, and 3 or 4 (selectable) fill rinses. Fills are around 5gal, hot is faucet hot, spin is 800rpm. Also worth noting, it has never broken. Nothing 'digital' except the multispeed/reversing motor power module.

From what I read, doubt they make them like that anymore.


Post# 779850 , Reply# 2   8/28/2014 at 05:24 (3,500 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Number of rinses

Depends on the manufacturer.
LG uses usually 2 rinses, with TurboWash it is 1 deep rinse and the 2 spins both including spray rinsing and you can add up to 3 rinses on nearly any cycle.
GE probably defaults to one rinse with an Option for up to 3 rinses.
I think Whirlpool still uses 2 rinses, but I'm not sure.
I don't know about Samsung, but I suppose 1 or 2 default.


Post# 779872 , Reply# 3   8/28/2014 at 08:53 (3,500 days old) by cam2s (Nebraska)        

My Whirlpool built Maytag Maxima uses two standard rinses on all cycles. An extra third rinse is optional. The speed cycle, which is labeded overnight wash/dry, the wrinkle free and delicate cycle do not spin between the rinses. All other cycles will spin between fills. It also dispenses the bleach dispenser in the first rinse on all cycles.

Post# 779882 , Reply# 4   8/28/2014 at 09:34 (3,500 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
2006 Frigidaire

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Our 2006 Frigidaire has three rinses on the normal cycle (with an option for four) but no spray/suds kill immediately after the wash like our previous front loader had. There are spins between all rinses. This machine has excellent washing and rinsing action. The full cycle is 45 minutes.

There may be fewer rinses on newer machines, but I feel you need at least three on a front loader for large loads on normal cycle. The "Quick" cycle on ours has only two rinses, and the manual suggests half a dose of detergent.



Post# 779888 , Reply# 5   8/28/2014 at 10:24 (3,500 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

My two year old Samsung does the following:

1 Wash followed by 2 rinses.
The last rinse uses more water, and there is water spraying at the beginning of the final spin. Mainly to clean any suds that might be on window, and bottom of door seal. It does not spray in the drum, only on the window.

If you select extra rinse button, then you get a third rinse.


Post# 779920 , Reply# 6   8/28/2014 at 14:24 (3,500 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
my 2005 duet

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does 2 rinses on all cycles and spins between rinses unless it's delicate or soak. It has been a great washer.

Post# 779932 , Reply# 7   8/28/2014 at 15:35 (3,500 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        

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My 2012 BOL Frigidaire Affinity does a cold wash (on "Normal", all temps are cold), and two rinses unless "Fresh water rinse" is selected, then it does three rinses. It only spins after the wash cycle and then at the end of the rinses.

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Post# 780092 , Reply# 8   8/29/2014 at 11:06 (3,499 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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2010 Frigidaire:

Normal, Whitest Whites, Heavy Duty, Bulky, and Sanitize Cycles: Wash, spin, rinse, spin, rinse, final spin. If you choose "Freshwater Rinse" (their term for an extra rinse) the sequence is: Wash, spin, rinse, spin, rinse, spin, rinse, final spin.

Casual (permanent press) Cycle: Wash, rinse, spin, rinse, final spin.

Delicate: Slow tumble wash, rinse, rinse, final spin.

Personally, I like a spin after the wash and each rinse, with the exception of the Casual cycle, which provides a cool-down via the first rinse before there's a spin to set wrinkles in dress shirts.



Post# 780178 , Reply# 9   8/29/2014 at 21:12 (3,499 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        

I would call mine modern but not the newest. My 2003 Miele on the cottons regular cycle does one wash and two deep rinses and a third rinse can be added. I have the third rinse option programmed to add more water in the every rinse when selected.  It does a high speed spin after the wash and each rinse.  The wash time is adjusted by the load size and ranges from about 12 minutes to 20.  Each rinse is about 8 minutes each including the fill time.  If it is not able to spin the load after the wash(which rarely happens) it will add an additional rinse.  This normal cycle is the one I use for almost every cotton load except heavy soiled white cotton.

 

For heavy soiled cottons I use cottons with the extended option. The wash portion time is adjusted by the load size and ranges from 30 minutes to 65.  The rinses in this cycle are about 10 minutes each.  If you add a rinse then the first rinse is 10 minutes, the second is 7 and the last is 10.

 

Each cycle has a range of temperatures you can use and cottons goes from tap cold to 190F.  If you select 190F about 7 minutes will be added to the wash portion to provide time to heat the water hotter.

 

Any time you use 3 rinses the tumble pattern in the middle rinse will be different than the first and last.  In this middle rinse it will do a very short tumble and a long pause soak as the water will be 1/4 way up the door during the pause.

 

There is a prewash option that can be added to most cycles.  This will start with a tap cold fill and heat the water  to about  105F before draining and doing a small spin, and then the machine will continue with whatever cycle and temperature you have selected.

 

There are other cycles on this machine including for silk, wool, delicates, jeans... and more, but this cottons cycle is the normal one I use.  I guess I haven't been wearing much silk lately. 

 

I used to always do 3 rinses for every load, but as my washer drains into the laundry sink so I can see the water, and with using well rinsing detergents, now I think 2 rinses is good enough for most of my loads.


Post# 780231 , Reply# 10   8/30/2014 at 06:31 (3,498 days old) by matthewza (Cape Town, South Africa)        
LG...

My 7kg LG DD front loader is 5 years old and was about MOL at that time. The "normal" cycle (cotton) does main wash, 3 rinses, final spin, with a spin after the wash and between all rinses. Synthetics and bulky is exactly the same just with a higher water level for washing and rinsing. Cotton quick, delicate and handwash/wool only do 2 rinses with spins after washing and between rinses. Quick30 (whicj I never use) does a main wash, rinse, rinse, final spin. No spin after wash or between rinses. The Bedcover cycle does 4 deep rinses. Not sure about baby care, bio care or boiling care (used boiling care once but never watched cycle progression). Selecting Medic-Care Rinse (only available on Cotton, Synthetic, Baby Care, Bio Care and Boiling Care) makes all the rinses deep, adds an extra rinse, and heats the water of the final rinse to 40C (making it a longer rinse). This adds 26 mins to the cycle time. I've only used Medic Care Rinse twice. If I feel I need an extra rinse I normally just let the cycle finish and then run in on Rinse+Spin which is 1 rinse and a spin. I don't use fabric softener, so I don't need to worry about having it rinsed out if I do that.

Matthew


Post# 780304 , Reply# 11   8/30/2014 at 18:55 (3,498 days old) by chris74 ()        
Talking bout US front-loaders

I believe Euro-style machines will do more than two or three rinses and the cycle times are much longer. I own a Euro-style top-loader which does five or six rinses when the allergy option is selected... logixx or henene4 will have more information to this...

Post# 780308 , Reply# 12   8/30/2014 at 19:25 (3,498 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Actually, 5-6 rinses is a lot for todays times. Which brand is your toploader and when was it made? I doubt it would be from this century.
Actually, EU machines do not that much different about rinsing except for longer rinse times (our AEG does sometimes up to 20 minute long rinses).
2 rinses are usual for the eco cycles used for the efficency label as well as for short cycles and not full loads. 3 rinses for delicates, wool and full cotton loads. Our old Panasonic (still standing in the basement) had an allergy cycle that was presst for 3 rinses (so 4 with extra rinse), but it was simply the most genious rinsing washer ever. Our AEG could do up to 6 rinses on the Extra Silent cycle with extra rinse, whereas the Bauknecht is limited to 4 (maybe 5 with an emergency suds removal rinse, though, i don't know if it is abled to add extra rinses).
And we got the fast 15 minute cycles which do only one or rarely 2 rinses.
So, in Germany/the EU, 2 or 3 rinses are usual, 4th and 5th rinses are avaible, but you can end up with 1 rinse as well.
BTW I feel somewhat honored to be asked by name for information for the first time on this forum. Thank you!


Post# 780396 , Reply# 13   8/31/2014 at 11:08 (3,497 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Two rinses are pretty much the norm for regular cycles with extra rinses either being standard on specialtly cycles or available as an option.

 

My three-year old European Duet does two rinses on all cycles be default with up to two extra rinses as an option. Quick Wash only has one rinse by default. Each extra rinse adds twelve minutes on cycles that spin after the rinse or seven minutes for cycles that don't have a rinse spin.

 

I think Asko has the most rinses with its Super Rinse option: seven rinses - but it won't spin until the third or forth rinse (so I read).

 

Alex


Post# 780400 , Reply# 14   8/31/2014 at 12:51 (3,497 days old) by chris74 ()        
@henene4

You're welcome. We own a Candy 7even, which I believe is five years old now.


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