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Post# 780071   8/29/2014 at 08:05 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Post# 780072 , Reply# 1   8/29/2014 at 08:15 (3,520 days old) by A440 ()        

Was thinking this was in Atlanta when I saw your post.
This set looks to be gently used.
Wonder why they are getting rid the set?


Post# 780086 , Reply# 2   8/29/2014 at 10:39 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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me too

Post# 780097 , Reply# 3   8/29/2014 at 11:47 (3,520 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
A calypso!

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I have an older WP version of the Calypso and really like it.

 

Yeah that looks like it would be a great set for someone.

 

Kevin


Post# 780106 , Reply# 4   8/29/2014 at 12:59 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Are the older Whirlpool versions preferred or better, Kevin?

Post# 780116 , Reply# 5   8/29/2014 at 14:30 (3,520 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Newer versions are better.  Whirlpool did numerous engineering revisions through the course of production, ranging in significance from redesign of the u-joint and boot, redesign of the pump, to cutting the fluff period after the final spin from 30 seconds to 8 seconds.

Kenmore changed the console layout once or twice.  Whirlpool kept the same console for the duration.


Post# 780139 , Reply# 6   8/29/2014 at 17:46 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Dadoes - thank you, I've always admired these, but I have no clue what to avoid and what is preferred. I'll need to look at the Calypso closer , as I didn't realise that it was marketed under Whirlpool and Kenmore.

A window on the washer would be nice..but that's just me.


Phil


Post# 780143 , Reply# 7   8/29/2014 at 18:36 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Even less: KENMORE WASHER AND DRYER - $200 (NW Tucson)

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ad: " Kenmore Elite Calypso Washer and Kenmore Elite Sensor Smart GAS dryer for sale. This white matched set was purchased new at Sears Tucson Mall and we are the original owners. Both the washer and dryer work well and are super clean.

The washer has an electronic control board panel--no dials or buttons. Same with the dryer.

In addition to the stainless steel wash basket, this king size capacity washer has 10 cycles and automatic water level technology to save water.

The king size capacity dryer has eight cycles along with a porcelain interior drum, automatic temperature control, wrinkle guard, automatic cool down period and moisture sensing capability.

We are including two braided stainless steel water inlet hoses for the washer along with a flexible gas line and a flexible vent tube for the dryer.

We are selling the washer and dryer as a set for only for $200 "


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Post# 780144 , Reply# 8   8/29/2014 at 18:39 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
In Black Dress: Kennmore Elite Calypso Washer & Dryer-$200

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Different panels from the above white version

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Post# 780190 , Reply# 9   8/29/2014 at 22:06 (3,520 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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A more complete list of the engineering changes.  Again, some are minor, others are more mechanically-major.

- revised u-joint & boot

- revised pump (original = separate pump & motor, revised = unitary pump & motor)

- eliminated the secondary flood pressure switch

- softener dispenser revision (applied to the Calypso and Catalyst at the time of the revision)

- fluff period after final spin reduced from 30 seconds to 8 seconds

- revision to the gasket on the bleach injection nozzle at side of the tub

There also were some revisions on the cycle sequences, software version of the machine controller board.  I have four boards but haven't noted what are the revision IDs or swapped them to compare the operational differences.


Post# 780193 , Reply# 10   8/29/2014 at 22:45 (3,520 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Whirlpool revisions and reviews

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Dadoes - With these cited improvements, some year of production for the Whirlpool Calypso, hopefully, resulted in a better machine. Which year(s) or model number(s) would be best bets for reliability; caveats, in other words? I hope the snickering isn't choking anyone. It's interesting that this machine had hoards of negative criticisms which of course show up the most. Do the happiest consumers go online and report "GREAT machine!" vs. the complainers; unhappy consumers are the loudest.

The unitary pump and motor were a big change - did it affect db levels when it became unitized, I wonder?

That would be a total adventure, to swap the boards and see what results. The Calypso was discontinued; it wasn't due to success. But some of them were better than others. But which?

ps - I'm watching your youtube vid (


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Post# 780202 , Reply# 11   8/30/2014 at 00:01 (3,520 days old) by A440 ()        

I love these washers so much!
It was a vintage design brought to life in our modern world. Something I wish would take place with so many machines.
I don't have any of this type. I do keep my eye out however.
I think the washers are awesome.


Post# 780272 , Reply# 12   8/30/2014 at 14:20 (3,519 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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your best bet at knowing which ones have the latest revisions, or at least the glitches worked out.....unless they can show proof that the revisions were done....

for whirlpool, you want to look for model numbers ending in KQ2.....KQO was the first, second generation was KQ1.....

a little harder with the Kenmores to know which is which, unless you trace model/serial numbers for years of production.....but instead of the panel designs that are shown on these above, they changed the panel to a circular center touch pad for the cycles as the last/latest revision, and removed the word 'Calypso Wash Motion" from the control panel...

other than that, your taking chances unless proof is provided that the revisions were done....

both pumps are relatively quiet for either design.....almost silent.....

one other thing, if you, or anyone, has changed the boards, BOTH must be replaced at the same time if a glitch/virus is found....otherwise it will just transfer that back and forth....

about the only change in operation of cycles I have noticed so far, Normal cycle flips back and forth from nutate(agitation) to slow spin with the waterfall saturating the load.....the first series just rotated the load to saturate with the waterfall, then went into nutate from then on.....adding water through the detergent dispenser....

it also just dispenses water through the detergent dispenser for the first minutes to start the waterfall......then the water saturates the load from the fill flume at the 11 o' clock position until the pressure switch is satisfied...

just small changes from one machines functions to the next....

some people don't like them....I find them to be thorough at washing and rinsing....800rpm final spin...and almost fool proof to load and go!...

and your only washing in roughly 3 gallons of water per fill....


Post# 780314 , Reply# 13   8/30/2014 at 20:01 (3,519 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Consumer Reports....

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....Liked the Calypso, as I recall.

Which goes to show you what testing recommendations without years of owner data proving reliability can do to mislead buyers.


Post# 780315 , Reply# 14   8/30/2014 at 20:09 (3,519 days old) by A440 ()        

Thanks for the Info Martin! Good to know.

Sandy, I truly think this was one of the best wash systems I have ever used. You really have to wash 'like items', right amount of detergent, etc. I just wish I could find a decent set...and I have seen many out there. I wish Whirlpool would come back with this design.



Post# 780318 , Reply# 15   8/30/2014 at 20:21 (3,519 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Brent,

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My sense of the situation is that Whirlpool finally got it right, the same way Maytag vastly improved the Neptune.

However, all those early customers who got their butts burned made for bad word-of-mouth, eventually killing machines that might have been strong sellers over time if early versions had been as good as later ones.

I think one of the answers to debacles like these two is much more extended and rigorous product testing. Too much today is done with computer modeling, which supposedly predicts what will happen when the design is finally built and running. As many an appliance and auto maker could tell you (but won't), it does no such thing.

The outcome was especially sad in the case of the Neptune, because the defects were actually fairly minor. The control board needed a couple of components beefed up at a few cents a pop, the wax motor needed some tweaking and the door boot needed a drain system. None of this was expensive. What was expensive was Maytag management of the time sticking its head in the sand and instructing Customer Care to basically tell consumers there weren't any problems they weren't causing themselves. Not sussing out the problems prior to release and not dealing with them aggressively after they surfaced in the field essentially put Maytag on the road to ruin as a free-standing company.


Post# 780329 , Reply# 16   8/30/2014 at 21:50 (3,519 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Martin - thank you; didn't realize you also had some Calypsos. What didn't you own? :-) That is good info you provided to everyone. Watching DaDoes video gave me a first hand on how this machine washes. I was originally thinking that there was a more traditional agitator in the Calypso and they evolved into the stubby agitator. The action is unusual, rolling the clothes around in a waterfall was a surprise to me. The three gallon amounts of water used per cleaning cycle(normal, I am guessing?) is truly energy-saving. I'm all for saving water, but we lived in two counties here that decided to add on a sewer fee(helps to pay for expansion and maintenance of present sewer systems). This doubled our water bill, despite our success in saving water. Of course, water is saved but we still get the shaft for trying to save water. Back to the machine.

Sandy - didn't they replace that wax motor or some part and finally got it right? Did the door boot get the drain system or is that still a thorn?


A440 - if you find something and buy it, I'd be interested in knowing what you bought and how you chose it.


Post# 780336 , Reply# 17   8/30/2014 at 22:06 (3,519 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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My machine in the video is a "1" model.  It has the updated u-joint & softener dispenser.  Original-style pump and 30-second fluff.  I don't know about the bleach nozzle gasket, it had a slight leak and the replacement is unreasonably expensive so I improvised.

I have a "0" model stashed in my garage which I used a couple times but have not refurbished.  It presumably has not had any repairs being that it still has the original-style u-joint (and pump).


Post# 780337 , Reply# 18   8/30/2014 at 22:10 (3,519 days old) by A440 ()        

Sandy, I can't agree with you more about your views on the downfall of these machines. I think if Whirlpool reissued it and called it a totally different name the majority of consumers would not even notice it was the same (better built) unit. I am not impressed with WP's new top loaders.
Phil, I want a new one out of the box! LOL! The last models of course. I have gone to see several and they are all so yucky. Just nasty. Operator error to the max! Mold! Mold! Mold! and on top of that needing repair. I know it can all be fixed but I just don't want to deal with it. I am thinking someday a hardly used set will show up. Or perhaps I can find a new in box. :)
B


Post# 780341 , Reply# 19   8/30/2014 at 22:27 (3,519 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Brent - NIB - of course, what every realistic washer enthusiast would aspire to....they're out there, maybe in a warehouse...like the one at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark ..."we have top people working on it". Now if you do come across NIB and there's a few of them...I'm in Alpharetta. lol. Oh, that mold...had a FL GE and mold was always a problem. Running a bleach cycle and keeping the door open to air out ...simple things that are supposed to solve that problem...are maintenance issues. Most of us have been raised around the non-mold growing, 30-40 gallon vintage machines. To become oriented to addressing mold in our washers? Plus, people are too busy, can't focus, don't have the patience, etc. to keep a washing machine and drier in healthy, good working order. That stacks the cards against finding a good machine, so no wonder you are dreaming of NIB.

DaDoes - So, in my guess...you have the better machine, even though it's not the KQ2, it's still more refined oveall, than the Kenmore's...since Whirlpool, as mentioned, took the design further. Or...

Did I miss something there?

Thanks again, Martin - it's great information...really appreciate your input.


Post# 780350 , Reply# 20   8/31/2014 at 00:22 (3,519 days old) by A440 ()        

Oh Phil...
You are a sweet guy to GE and their Air.
We will see.
Let's see what I find. You just never know.
Look out for me and I will you also.
What are you looking for?
I might have it in my cave.
B


Post# 780372 , Reply# 21   8/31/2014 at 05:03 (3,518 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Phil, Whirlpool of course manufactured the Kenmore models as well as their own-branded units.  All of them got the same engineering updates.  Kenmore models had different control panel layouts and they removed the printed "Calypso Wash Motion" from the panel on the later revision for marketing purposes (and had a different dome on the wash plate) but they are the same mechanism as Whirlpool "under the hood."


Post# 780383 , Reply# 22   8/31/2014 at 08:58 (3,518 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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as for the Neptunes....the door boot drain was added early on into the second generation (4000 series), and any replacements got the new drain boot...so was the wax motor updated in that series, whole new door lock system took over in the 5500 series....yes, I have 6 sets of them(5500 series), plus a stacked set(4000 series)...

and yeah, I have a complete set by whirlpool, plus another whirlpool washer, and one kenmore version....all KQ2's

yeah, a quick fix for that bleach inlet is just to put on a thicker rubber gasket, or just a dab of sealant around the outside can take care of that drip.....took a while the first time to figure where that leak was coming from....

factor in, all cycles, every fill, is roughly 3 gallons.....the only exception is WhitestWhites cycle, after the wash period, it drains, and refills with fresh water, but this time about 5 gallons, to make sure it has plenty of water to flush across the load for the independant bleach rinse, in COLD water....an extra rinse is by default for this cycle......works wonders.....

this machines wash process is compared to washing your hands, you add a little water, concentrated detergent, lathered up, and then rinsed away......by the last rinse, that water is clear, everytime.....and I don't use HE detergents.....

basically it adds enough water to saturate the load, plus enough to continue the waterfall.....individual loads may add a little more, depending on the size of the load.....

there are also a lot of spin sprays through out the cycle......

as mentioned by JohnL, which you can too, select the heavy duty cycle, and drop paper towels one by one into the machine, and by the end of the cycle, not one will be torn apart......

there are some really special care cycles about this machine.....

especially for washing pillows and stuffed animals(kids and pets, lol)....

and 'handwash' is beyond delicate care......

but like any machine, you have to be careful of coins, loose items, and things like underwires from bras, if you wear such things....they will get under that wash plate and clog the pump intake!....

every member who ever visits and sees these machines in action want one!...I offer to anyone, if your in my area, stop in, and we'll demonstrate it for you....

one last thing....these machines tend to build up a static charge, it will come on by itself, anytime, day or night.....best fix, leave unplugged for about 3 days......from then on, leave unplugged when not in use, and add a ground wire to the cold water pipe....had them since 2006

my first set I got from Lowes on clearance, it got the static charge, all they did was give me a refund for the full price, they didn't want to mess with it.....the guy still came out, and told me what to do....and its been working ever since...I paid 600.00 for the set on clearance, and they gave me a gift card refund of over 900.00!...the original price of the washer plus tax and warranty....surprised, but didn't argue!...


Post# 780387 , Reply# 23   8/31/2014 at 09:29 (3,518 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Yogi has mentioned his static charge issue several times.  I don't have any problem with that, no malfunctions have occurred.  My machine has not been disconnected from power since it was put into daily use Nov 2008, except for the few times of a power failure.


Post# 780389 , Reply# 24   8/31/2014 at 09:35 (3,518 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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This reminds me of  a vertical WP Combo unit--filter stream washing to the max.  I wonder if anyone at WP still remembered that when they were conceptualizing this.  It's fascinating to watch. 


Post# 780395 , Reply# 25   8/31/2014 at 10:55 (3,518 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Martin - what haven't you learned about your machines? Outstanding information and despite what Dadoes has experienced, what's a ground wire cost in time and effort? That five gallon cycle for whites is great.

DaDoes - you own a KQ1 and Martin's all KQ2's or you have been just lucky. Interesting, maybe it was model specific or Martin lives in a drier area overall, conducive to more static electricity generation? Anyways...

Thanks for explanation any of the distinctions between Whirlpool and Kenmore models. These use such little water, does anyone use a sud=saver feature(if present) , if you have a tub or do you send it out to the garden? :-)

Brent - thanks for the offer. For me, there is the eye candy sets that I can't really store anywhere(at least here in Georgia) and would hate to just hoard and not display or use, even if occasionally. I've been looking at machines that will do more than our Maytag set and if possible, are visually a little more interesting to look at in style and features. I keep looking at the Kitchen Aid sets (the electronic panels), Calypso's, Crosley(they look like a Calypso...if I remember correctly), and maybe a higher model level in the Maytag line (A806). I should formulate a list, with priority. Brain hurts after trying to pin it all down. lol.





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Post# 780398 , Reply# 26   8/31/2014 at 11:47 (3,518 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Some pics (6 years ago) for water usage reference.

1 = Test load.  I don't recall if it's wet or dry in the basket.

2 = Test load in my F&P IWL12.

3 = Calypso tub from back showing the wash level.  The pump sump is at bottom.

4 = Tub from front.  Keep in mind that the clothes are 100% saturated so there's more water used than appears by the tub level reference.  Top is the level for wash and all rinses except the final.  Bottom is final rinse, which fills higher when the softener dispenser flushes.

5 = All the water from the Calypso cycle (probably Whitest Whites which has an extra rinse by default) drained into a KitchenAid toploader.  Majority of the water use by far is for the rinses.


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Post# 780465 , Reply# 27   8/31/2014 at 19:00 (3,518 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I have a few service manuals for them, but anything I can't figure out, credit goes to Glenn and JohnL for all their help....

my first one was a KQ0....and it had issues, replaced under warranty at the time....but then the univeral gave out, and it became a parts donor....

all my wash water goes out on the lawn....you will notice that side of the house having the quickest growing, greenest, thickest, plush grass....I wonder why?

this could be a glitch with just my machine for that static charge.....but if it happens, you now know what to do to fix it...

funny thing, you can't just bypass the lid switch on these, it has to know that the lid actually opened to reset the machine.....so a simple switch on the back of the control panel, wired in with the lid switch, allows this to function like it should, and with a flip, you can watch the whole show with the lid open......this kind of drama we like!


Post# 780543 , Reply# 28   8/31/2014 at 22:32 (3,518 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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DADoes - number 5 photo: how many gallons is that? If the white cycle is 5 gallons per cycle, is that about three rinse cycles and another two or three wash cycles....no idea how many gallons were used, but that does prove the whites get plenty of water for cleaning and rinsing.

Martin / Dadoes - I know there are few new topics in aw.org, so I just googled Calypso and found this link where you have made some helpful suggestions to someone who was having problems with their Calypso, including the grounding to prevent static charges. There's always a chance, it could help someone else.

www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...

if the sofener dispenser is filled with just water, does that trigger an extra amount of rinse water, then?

I like a window on the lid, but I guess there isn't an option, w/o making it yourself. I like windows on both machines, even if I might not be watching a whole cycle.

The Calypso came in white and black - any other colors? ( I'm envisioning a black-cherry metallic, which could look stunning in the right lights).

Phil


Post# 780544 , Reply# 29   8/31/2014 at 22:56 (3,518 days old) by A440 ()        

Phil has caught the bug! Phil has caught the bug!


Post# 780552 , Reply# 30   9/1/2014 at 00:14 (3,518 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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I'm a curious type, who has always enjoyed so many things, including working with my hands(creating or repairing). I'm trying to identify what's out there in appliances and sort out what I like and don't like. But you said "bug" and I can't help but comment. The real bug for me is mid-century architecture, cars, music, appliances, and art. But washers, dryers, dishwashers, stoves, and refrigerators are all part of the appliance bug.

I've been looking and listening to what others like and why so I can better pinpoint what I might like and why. My visual side would just take over if I let it and grab everything that is eye candy - there's plenty to go wild over. There are so many beautiful vintage machines, many I knew about and forgot existed, until seeing some of them here at aw.org. Then there so many I've never seen before and fall over in disbelief that the USA made these incredibly beautiful looking machines. I wish I could list all the examples, but the attached machine is just one example that was not remembered in my former magazine peruses, but one that brings a lot of YES's (fyi, source from : www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T...). For these vintage machines, the fact that they wash or dry clothes is nearly secondary to me compared to the aesthetic quality(I must have lot of company?).

I'm not equipped in space to take on collecting more than two sets of washers and dryers. For the few Craiglist items that I've turned up for any interested aw.org member or lurker, I'm happy to know they're going to a good home. There's a deep knowledge base here and willingness to help that is greater than the sum of the collections. I don't think any machine is worth more than the spirit that comes from the person who shares.

Whatever the bug, thanks alot for your help and ideas and making the experience of just being here a plus.

Phil


Post# 780559 , Reply# 31   9/1/2014 at 00:48 (3,518 days old) by A440 ()        

Nothing wrong with that.
It is what makes the appliance world go round and round.
Thanks for you all of you heads up post!
I appreciate them all.
B


Post# 780576 , Reply# 32   9/1/2014 at 07:20 (3,517 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I imagine it's 30+ gallons.  I think the KA takes 27 gallons for a full water level, which is several inches lower than the level in the picture.

Smaller or larger loads and different fabric types take accordingly less or more water per how much the clothes absorb.

All cycles have only one wash period.  Adding the (16 min) Soak option still is one combined soak & wash, there is no drain between soak and wash.

Reference the 5-part video which is a full Normal cycle. There's a dilution bleach rinse at end of the wash period (no drain) and 4 distinct rinses with a final spin spray, which I suppose could be considered a 5th rinse being as it's fairly long.  All cycles have four or five rinses (whichever is the right number, and it may vary per cycle), with the Extra Rinse option adding another.  Whitest Whites I believe adds one more rinse by default to help deal with the 1 cup of chlorine bleach that is assumed to be used.

The Calypso has no way to sense whether or not softener is in the dispenser so the softener dispenser flush occurs in every final rinse with the same volume of added water.  Same for bleach, the dispenser is flushed on every cycle, not just Whitest Whites.

As I recall, Whitest Whites at end of the wash period drains some of wash water then refills to top-off the water level again and flushes the bleach dispenser (bleach flush itself is an insignificant amount of water).

Whirlpool available colors were white, pewter/platinum, and biscuit/bisque.  Kenmore had ebony/black.


Post# 780581 , Reply# 33   9/1/2014 at 07:58 (3,517 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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mine do a heck of a lot of spin sprays, either at low speed for saturation, and during high speed spins.....

the dispensers(fabric softner/detergent) also do a lot of flushes with fresh water...I figured to keep them clean, and during pump out, it helps rinse any residue located in the bottom of the outter tub towards the drain sump....

which in turn, fill the sump area with clear water, ready for the next fill/waterfall, eliminating suds returning back to the load....

that sump is a unique feature, using a double chamber with two floating balls, and depending on the direction of the pump, can cause negative or positive pressure to open one, or seal another, for the process of draining, or the waterfall...

the belt on these is guaranteed for life, not that Whirlpool would actually honor it...never seen or heard of one breaking yet...

the main reason whirlpool stopped making these was not the board issues alone, it actually cost them more to build it than what they were selling them for, according to JohnL...

it would help the belt drive Cabrios a lot if a waterfall was added to saturate the load while it is washing....yet odd, the direct drive ones have it, and add more water per fill....


Post# 780785 , Reply# 34   9/1/2014 at 22:55 (3,517 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
A pair of WP pewter/platinum

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Just to add to this thread, here's what I think is the pewter/platinum color. The owner describes washer as dead, needing a board; so, would that mean both boards need to be replaced or is that Kenmore brand only? Cost to do both..from ebay, a new board is $$$$$$$$$ : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-8571...
(thoughts of buying another washer come easily, when I see the price of just ONE board..ouchey).

Martin - wow... thanks for adding more details; are the boards prone to failure even after replacement or is the last available replacement board good and not prone to failure?

Is the Whirlpool panel in this model(KQ1, 2, or 3, who knows?) easier to use than the Kenmore panel? I am so used to knobs and having a tactile hands on feeling to activation, how you like the under-the-panel-skin buttons? It looks to me and I can't tell, that the Kenmore panel I've shown above at the beginning of this thread might be easier to use? No basis, just looking at it, to me(or I'm full of more hot air).

Compared to many standard agitator, water-filling tubbed washers, does a Calypso take a lot longer to wash and dry clothes? I can see it would save time if you have a lot of the same color clothing (as you probably do, Martin with your size family). I read that the wash and dry times for these washers are much longer compared to, say, the traditional agitator machines. If one wash cycle is 16 minutes, that's not much different than our early 80's Maytag machine. I might be missing details where the consumer is not mentioning that they had three loads of wash...but from our FL GE W &D experiences, that set took a long time to wash and dry just one load of clothing.

Again, thanks for sharing more about the Calypso. If you all have been using these as daily drivers w/o panel failures, mold buildup, and inordinate wash/dry cycles, that's good news to me. Phoenix ad reads:

Whirlpool GAS Dryer and washer - $100 (glendale):
" Whirlpool Calypso Gas dryer with Senseon works great! Non working Calypso Washer comes along with dryer for free! Control board needs to be replaced on washer. Worth fixing if you have the know-how. Dryer is in great working condition. The washer worked perfectly when operational. Stainless steel tub. Washer will keep turning off. Rather than fix it, I purchased a new set. Dryer alone is worth the price. "


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Post# 780836 , Reply# 35   9/2/2014 at 07:19 (3,516 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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once you get a set of revised boards.....you should not have any problems...

wash times are nominal for the most part....a 'normal' cycle takes about 43 minutes....times can vary if you add extra wash time, or extended spin, extra rinse....also prewash, extended soak treatments....

normal cycle, heavy soil, extra rinse, extended spin.....55 minutes.... it does have that 800rpm spin, and dry times are roughly about 35 to 55 minutes depending on the load....after all, that is a Whirlpool design, theres something about that Soft-Heat that laeves clothes almost wrinkle free....

I have matched sets of the Neptunes and Frigidaires, but given a choice, it would be all Whirlpool/Kenmore dryers.....I tend to favor those over all the others...

that is a super nice set, love the color, and not a bad price as well.....JohnL can help you with parts...
thats way too expensive for that board....shop around....



Post# 790889 , Reply# 36   10/27/2014 at 22:24 (3,461 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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DaDoes/Yogitunes/A440 : Were the dryers of the Whirlpool or Kenmore models beset with any problems, or pretty much all the same in terms of drying results and mechanical reliability(?). Thanks for the details of the model numbers to consider, flaws with the panels or u-joint and other caveats. I'm looking for a Calypso set, but not willing to spend more than $150-175. NIB? Brent, I wouldn't be so lucky to find that on CL, but who knows? Anyways - the dryers ...were they problem-free, overall?



Post# 791024 , Reply# 37   10/28/2014 at 18:02 (3,460 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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if anything, you can never go wrong with a Kenmore/Whirlpool FSP design in any version they put out, there is something about that SoftHeat step down that no other machine has, it gives great wrinkle free results every time.....

I mainly have matched dryers to the Neptunes and Frigidaire, but preference always goes to the Whirlpool when ever possible.....night and day on how the clothes come out.....

can't say I have seen any issues with the dryers.....

funny you mention NIB.....I got these two sets from staged homes for 100.00 a set, granted not in the box, but never hooked up, just put in place for looks until the model home sold...and really lucked out with two of them...keep looking, you would be surprised at what may be out there when you least expect it.....



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Post# 791025 , Reply# 38   10/28/2014 at 18:06 (3,460 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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a number of members have found machines, either NIB, never used, or close to it.....

I got this 1974 Maytag, still on the shipping crate, box was torn off before I got there.....and paid 30.00.....now at home with Ultramatic/Louie.....

your treasure is out there waiting for you!....


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Post# 791026 , Reply# 39   10/28/2014 at 18:18 (3,460 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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wow, Martin, nothing sweeter than getting a NIB or close to it. That Maytag was such a great find. If I hear about more stories, I'll be dreaming too much of NIB...lol! But thanks for the encouragement and your feedback on the Calypso dryer.


Phil



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