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Whirlpool duet water level? |
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Post# 780496 , Reply# 1   8/31/2014 at 20:41 (3,522 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Post# 780755 , Reply# 2   9/1/2014 at 19:32 (3,521 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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How much will it be raised by? I've heard the normal wash cycle uses the least water. |
Post# 780759 , Reply# 3   9/1/2014 at 20:05 (3,521 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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that's why I don't use the damn cycle. I do not pay attention to the labels (names) of the cycles. I am intelligent, not stupid when it comes to laundry. I know how to do laundry and don't need someone telling me or making choices for me. I use Allergen for any load needing hot water because the requirement is the wash water temp has to reachg 130 degrees F for 3 minutes--and it uses extra water. (unless I need Sanitized--but then I still use Allergen with Extra Hot water temperature). I am looking for a specific way it executes the cycle. Is the heater used? Does it use fast, medium, or slow speed wash tumble I'm looking for? What ever I'm wanting the machine to do for how I feel a certain type of fabric and load should be dealt with, then that's what I use--I don't care what the cycle description is intended for. I use my Jeans cycle for Permanent Press most of the time. It uses extra water, has a cool down phase of the warm wash water and has a medium speed tumble. I use Bulky Items for Perm Press if I need a gradual heat up of water and steam to deal with stains. It's similar to Jeans, but can use the heater and adds steam too. I pretty much use Allergen, Jeans, Hand Wash, and Bulky Items. |
Post# 780769 , Reply# 5   9/1/2014 at 21:02 (3,521 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Thanks Cameron. The Energy Star & EPA people purposely base the energy star designation on the "Normal" cycle and purposely dumb it down. Because the y know that's what most people will use because they equate it to what their old product would accomplish on "Normal". Not so if you want good results of clean dishes that are dirty or clean laundry that's dirty. If more people would study and wise up, they'd realize we've been sold a bill of goods. |
Post# 780820 , Reply# 6   9/2/2014 at 05:27 (3,520 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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AVOID the normal cycle!!! On my Duet from 2005, the normal cycle actually isn't that bad at all, but on these newer ones it's awful.....
Try another cycle before you make an adjustment......and honestly, I tried adjusting mine a long time ago and it was a ROYAL PAIN. I could NOT get it right, so I moved it back to default......it really didn't need adjusting to begin with, I just wanted to see if I could do it.....This was back when Front loaders were sort of newer to the market and I was expecting water 1/2 way up the door like in the laundromat. |
Post# 780908 , Reply# 7   9/2/2014 at 15:56 (3,520 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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I have a 2009 Kenmore Elite He5T washer. Among the numerous cycles, I've discovered the "Express Wash" (or speed wash, quick wash, etc) cycle uses more water than the "normal" cycle and I've been happy with it! This is my default cycle of choice.
I select Express Wash, HEAVY soil and Extra rinse. Selecting heavy soil changes the wash time to around 15 minutes (versus the default 5 mins) and I select extra rinse "just because". Total cycle time when all is said and done, usually 54 -56 minutes (it varies based on the load).
The BULKY Items cycle uses even more water, but does a series of tumble / pause during the wash. Bulky also limits max spin RPM to "medium", at least on my machine.
I have a photo at home showing the actual water levels for normal, express and bulky items cycles. I'll have to find it and post it.
Kevin
P.S... Mark, I discovered a while back that newer FL'ers will work poorly with the water level even a 1/4 or 1/3 way up the glass, with all but a max size load. I've manually added water to various FL washers and if it doesn't start draining the excess water out, the clothes just float or roll around in higher water levels. Granted the level in these new machines is too low, but 1/4 or 1/2 way up the glass would net poor cleaning results.
Those FL washers in the laundromats have water level so high, because let's face it, people really cram as much as they can into each machine before starting it and they need the high level to get results. |
Post# 780950 , Reply# 8   9/2/2014 at 18:52 (3,520 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)   |   | |
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Post# 780954 , Reply# 9   9/2/2014 at 19:12 (3,520 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 780988 , Reply# 10   9/2/2014 at 20:58 (3,520 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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If you decide to adjust ad increase the level of water, turn the screw 1/4 around,turn the unit on,see how high the water gets then adjust it another 1/4 turn until it gets to your satisfactory level. The only one I ever had issues with doing that is the Frigemore. It winds up ,after a couple cycles are complete,shutting. down with no spin. My LGs fill up to the base of the door handles, My Miele just below the door opening and my Duet filled 1/3 the way up.the window. Everything gets real clean and my loads are HUGE! The turbulence they have is dramatic and lots of water and suds splash up covering the.glass like a tsunami splashing across the lava rock here on a beach. Much better then the pre set levels.
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Post# 780991 , Reply# 11   9/2/2014 at 21:04 (3,520 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 781036 , Reply# 12   9/3/2014 at 00:03 (3,520 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Water levels in my KM Elite He5T. (click the "View Full Size" button)
Re: Bob's comment about the "bulky items" cycle spin speed. Mine defaults to a max speed of "medium" but that's the max it will allow, cannot adjust it higher on "bulky".
Kevin
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Post# 781116 , Reply# 13   9/3/2014 at 12:41 (3,519 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Mine defaults to high spin on Bulky and won't go to max spin. Also, the spin between the rinses seem slower, thus I'll need to select extra rinses if I use the Bulky cycle for towels.
The water levels change considerably with the load's absorbency. This is a rinse on Delicates (also Bulky, Wool and Handwash) with an absorbent load. :)
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Post# 781117 , Reply# 14   9/3/2014 at 12:43 (3,519 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Yes - I know you don't want too much water........When I tried to make the adjustment following specific instructions, turning the screw very small amounts and checking the level...When I did this, the first few very small turns there was zero change, then suddenly, the water was filling up to SCARY levels. I did not want the water level that high, but just where the water touches the boot (that's all I wanted because it wasn't too little and not too much.) I never could achieve that, so I turned the screw back to where it was and didn't bother with it anymore.....I just couldn't not understand why it was one extreme to the other with just a small turn on my machine, so I gave up.
In your pictures, The bulky water level looks about like what my 2005 Duet uses on Normal, Heavy Duty, Whitest Whites and Sanitary....The only difference is on normal and sanitary it does a cool down toward the end of the wash filling with more water before it drains. Good Lord, look at that pitiful water level in the normal cycle in that picture.......that's just so laughable.... |
Post# 781150 , Reply# 15   9/3/2014 at 15:45 (3,519 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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In your pictures, The bulky water level looks about like what my 2005 Duet uses on Normal, Heavy Duty, Whitest Whites and Sanitary....The only difference is on normal and sanitary it does a cool down toward the end of the wash filling with more water before it drains.
It just goes to show how much those "regulations" have changed things in 4 years. I guess "their" idea of washing clothes has reverted back to beating the wet clothes a rock by the river, since this is essentially what it's doing with this low of a water level.
Kevin
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Post# 781164 , Reply# 16   9/3/2014 at 16:36 (3,519 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Okay, these goverment regulations are going to far now..... |
Post# 781181 , Reply# 17   9/3/2014 at 17:53 (3,519 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 781184 , Reply# 18   9/3/2014 at 18:21 (3,519 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Most of the cycles I use have a (wash) water level either similar to the Normal cycle pictured above or just about covering the perforated area of the drum. Adding more water, I have found the following to happen
- decreased cleaning because clothes don't tumble but just roll over each other - more suds - unless substantially more water is added, the pool of water is pushed away anyway by the rotating drum/paddles - more time needed to heat the extra water - more water does not deal with pet hair (in my case)
Bottom line in my case is that, while it is fun to watch, extra water on normal cycles doesn't do a thing for me. Even adding extra rinse water isn't as effective as an extra rinse.
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