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Post# 783320   9/12/2014 at 19:17 (3,506 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)        

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Good Evening,

 

I currently work as a House Manager for a very large Estate in New York.  We have 2 laundry rooms and 4 washers and dryers.  The equipment is heavily utilized and after 7 years is starting to fail.  In the past I have purchased Whirlpool Duet washers and dryers.  I am considering switching to Speed Queen front load washers as they are commercially built units for home use.  Does anyone have any experience or history with Speed Queen front load washers?

How about the matching dryers?  My only concern is that they do not have a sensor in the drum and I worry about over drying.

Feedback and information will be greatly appreciated.  The washers do have a smaller capacity than my current units, but the cycles are much shorter on the Speed Queen.  Which means the staff can probably manage to do the same amount of laundry on a daily basis. 

 

A great evening to all,

 

Richard

Old Westbury, New York





Post# 783326 , Reply# 1   9/12/2014 at 19:28 (3,506 days old) by washman (o)        
Well I can speak only for the dryer

I believe Mbr627 has or had the FL machines thus he can speak more accurately than I can.

With regards to the dryer, that too was my concern, no moisture sensor. Nevertheless I have good drying performance even though it took some time to set the timer so as not to overdry. Once I mastered that, I cannot complain.

I made the dealer dig out replacement pieces so I could see, so to speak, how it was constructed. I was impressed with the rollers and the USA made heater assembly.

With 220cfm airflow, I'd give the SQ a slight edge in drying time over my GE I used to have. The GE had a moisture sensor; I had no issues with that at all.

That being said, I recommend the dryer IF you can live without a moisture sensor. NOt sure if the 2015 models will incorporate that or not.


Post# 783409 , Reply# 2   9/13/2014 at 05:48 (3,506 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Washers and dryers don't necessarily have to be a matched set.  Choose some other brand/model of dryer if moisture-sensing autodry is preferred over thermostatic sensing.  They also don't necessarily wear-out at the same rate, so keep the current Duet dryers if they're still OK or can be brought up-to-speed with a bit of servicing.


Post# 783430 , Reply# 3   9/13/2014 at 08:27 (3,506 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Imperial Set

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I have the Speed Queen Imperial set. They are fantastic. The only machines I can truly recommend.

Malcolm


Post# 783483 , Reply# 4   9/13/2014 at 13:16 (3,505 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Matched sets

True, as above about matched sets.

Over here in the UK, it is very rare for people to have matched sets (it does happen, but not as a rule)

As different brands offer different functions and reliability, IMO it's better to choose the machines offering the best options as opposed to just going for machines that look the same.

In all the appliances I have owned (and that's a lot :P) I have only ever had a matching set once, as soon as the washer broke, I got a different brand and kept on with the dryer, and when that broke, again it was a different brand, offering the price/features I needed at that time.


Post# 783518 , Reply# 5   9/13/2014 at 16:34 (3,505 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)        
Speed Queen Washer and Dryer

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Thank you for the input.

 

I do have to have a matched set as they will be stacked.  No other option is available.

 

Malcom, as you do have a matched set, please give me your opinions of the dryer.  As our laundry at the Estate is not heavily soiled, are the cycle times as short as indicated by Speed Queen?  How do you soak in the machine?  Just turn it off?

 

Do you have any videos of the washer and dryer in operation?

 

Thank you,

 

Richard


Post# 783520 , Reply# 6   9/13/2014 at 16:38 (3,505 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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well if you went to soak clothes the only washers i know where you can soak clothes is in a top load washer.

Post# 783525 , Reply# 7   9/13/2014 at 17:10 (3,505 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Generally...

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If I need to soak something, I will just turn the cycle switch to off. Then return to it after whatever time limit has passed. Then I will either set it for rinse and spin for a short agitation before pumping out and extracting or resume the regular cycle as needed.

I find the dryer a lot easier to live with than one of the electronic sensor machines. When I had a duet pair, I found that with a small load of clothes, the dryer would quit after a couple minutes and rarely dry the load to completion without needing to be reset. None of that nonsense with the Speed Queen.

There are several videos on my YouTube site of the washer in operation.

Malcolm



Post# 783526 , Reply# 8   9/13/2014 at 17:10 (3,505 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)        

Hi Richard,

The other question for you, is how hot is the hot water? The Duets can heat the water to maintain a temperature or bring it up to a specific temp.

The Speed Queens have no inbuilt heater, so you'll need hot water of around 140F to get a hotish wash with them.

If you currently wash in warm and use lots of chlorine bleach, this probably doesn't matter, but if you're used to oxygen bleach and hot washes, this could be a problem.

Cheers

Nathan


Post# 783527 , Reply# 9   9/13/2014 at 17:33 (3,505 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Videos

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Here is one of the videos I have of my machines. Others can be linked from there.






Malcolm


Post# 783534 , Reply# 10   9/13/2014 at 18:26 (3,505 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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What's the logic behind the pulse spins between each rinse and after the first wash?  I like that it does that spray rinse before the 1st set of pulse spins after wash.  I guess that's kind of a suds kill? 

 

How long is regular's wash cycle peroid?  I guess perm press has a slightly shorter wash period.   Is the tumble pattern the same as on regular--and I know the final spin's sequence is slightly different than regular. 

 

How does it handle a much larger load than these towels?  I know my sister's going to be asking questions.  Glad I got to see this video. 


Post# 783651 , Reply# 11   9/14/2014 at 10:25 (3,504 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

Well this is a little......scary....

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Post# 783657 , Reply# 12   9/14/2014 at 11:28 (3,504 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Déjà-vu....

I got a really heavy Déjà-vu reading that article.
I like the melting phone refferrence though. I'm really into all that nuclear stuff (means I know a ton about it) and watched pretty much every nuclear war film completly (except for The Day After, I once watched the attack segment and was scared to death) and they are somewhat right.
But I guess they try to polish all the problems up with the ne line...


Post# 783658 , Reply# 13   9/14/2014 at 11:30 (3,504 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
What is scary about that review ?

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You can buy the non SS model for around 1500.00 and the machine will last the average user [ at 10 loads per week ] about 50 years and do the job every time in about 45 minutes. The SQ FLer will outlast a Miele by 2 1/2 times and most other US FLers by 3-4 times, this would easily make the SQ FL washer the cheapest to own automatic washer period.

Post# 783663 , Reply# 14   9/14/2014 at 12:02 (3,504 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I love my Speed Queen FL washer except for 3 things:

1) I REALLY wish it had a soil level selector. 24 minutes of wash it just too long for some loads and I'm not about to sacrifice the 1,000 RPM spin to shorten the wash period.

2) The spin cycles are somewhat finicky. For the pulse spins, if it can't balance on the first try, it bumps off the fastest pulse. I've had it only successfully do one pulse before which isn't enough. It'll also lower the final spin speed if it has any trouble balancing. Sometimes it goes wayyyyy off balance and the rim of the tub slams into the glass leaving a huge gash in the glass.

3) Socks and other small items will sometimes fall into the seal while it's washing and then remain there for the rest of the cycle. I usually end up rewashing that item with the next load since it never got washed fully, rinsed or spun out.

If they fixed those three things, I'd be much happier with my machine.


Post# 783679 , Reply# 15   9/14/2014 at 13:50 (3,504 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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That review is among the goofiest I've run across.

They're yammering about a Heavy Duty cycle (combined with Delicate) which their own pictures of it clearly indicates Delicate/Bulky ... Heavy Duty is nowhere on the dial.

And fussing about no Normal cycle?  What do they think Regular means?

And calling-out the plastic dispenser drawer (and then grudgingly saying that at least it won't rust).  Do any machines on the market have a metal dispenser drawer?


Post# 783747 , Reply# 16   9/14/2014 at 19:14 (3,504 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Love my set

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been running for  a couple years now.

 

I always insisted on dampness sensors using WP dryers but this dryer is every bit as functional with out. I haven't over dried anything in two years which does surprise the heck out of me.

 

Read the manual and the dryer does exactly what the manual states, I don't know how they achieved this without a sensor circuit but they did.

 


Post# 783751 , Reply# 17   9/14/2014 at 19:39 (3,504 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Dryer heater

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I also like that the dryer heating element is behind the bulk head in the rear rather than on the cabinet floor where lint will gather.

Malcolm


Post# 783959 , Reply# 18   9/16/2014 at 00:19 (3,503 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Hi Richard. I know I may be a little bit late coming into the foray here...

I love my Huebsch (aka Speed Queen) set. I bought the gas dryer, which saved me nearly 20 percent off of my utility bills compared to my older electric dryer.

The Huebsch washer is a workhorse and handles anything I can throw at it. I've had absolutely no problems with it since I bought back in 2011.

So far, the only problem I've had was about 6 months ago, the dryer wasn't advancing on the automatic cycles. I noticed that it had been running for nearly three hours. The technician replaced the timer and thermostat on the dryer at no cost as it was still under warranty. He was in and out in slightly less than half an hour.

I can't say that with any other manufacturer of laundry equipment, they can offer this level of service, speed, warranty and convenience. Alliance really does stand behind their products!

The lack of a moisture sensor on the dryer doesn't bother me at all. It may overdry the clothes if the timer is set to "More Dry", but it won't cause a dryer fire. If anything, this is one less thing that can go wrong anyway.

The company I purchased this set from tells me that they usually sell these sets to landlords for common areas, since they're designed for light commercial use. For your purposes, these machines are ideal for this use.

I'm very happy with my set and would recommend them to anyone.


Post# 784454 , Reply# 19   9/18/2014 at 14:05 (3,500 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        
50 years at 10 loads a week

That's a 25,000 load life cycle. That is the life cycle of a commercial hard mount washer. I was told by the Alliance rep that the Horizon FL has a 10K life cycle like the TL. Note that I say "told" I have not seen this in writing. The national avg laundromat washer is cycled 4 times daily so the hard mount machines on avg see 25k loads in 20 years. 10k loads at about 7-8 years. I my experience that is about how long I see them last. The Horizon FL was developed to offer laundry owners a lower cost FL options to replace worn out TL. At $1800 for the FL and $1000 for the TL the FL will pay for itself in 8 years. A hard mount double loader cost close to $5000.

Post# 784665 , Reply# 20   9/19/2014 at 23:36 (3,499 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
SQ Front Load Washers

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When we were in training with SQ their reps are the ones that said they could last 25,000 loads, 10,000 loads sounds about right for their very good TL washers.

I currently have a 6 YO SQ FL pair that we took out of the Jefferson Hotel in Washington DC, this washer and electric dryer washed and dried almost 35,000 loads in a period of around 5 years [ they estimated about 20 loads per day] with very few problems, and they are still in great shape and we are reselling them.


Post# 784668 , Reply# 21   9/19/2014 at 23:41 (3,499 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Do these machines only do spray rinses or will they do a deep rinse too?

Post# 784672 , Reply# 22   9/20/2014 at 00:58 (3,499 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Malcolm

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I remember when you posted pics and vids when you got those SQ's a long time ago, but I thought I remembered reading you sold them because you like to try new appliances every couple of yrs or something.

I do wish they had a heater and a few more options, but other than than, I love them.


Post# 784720 , Reply# 23   9/20/2014 at 09:17 (3,499 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Never sold

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I never went through with selling them. They sat in the garage while I had the Miele's in use. I moved them back inside to verify operation before selling them and realized how much I preferred them to the Miele's. So the Miele's got sold instead.

A heater would be nice, but the reality is you can certainly get by without it.

Malcolm

Combo, would love a pic of the set you are planning to sell...



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