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Post# 786876   10/2/2014 at 15:20 (3,464 days old) by laundryboy (Orlando Florida & Moravia NY. )   |   | |
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Post# 786878 , Reply# 1   10/2/2014 at 15:26 (3,464 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 786886 , Reply# 3   10/2/2014 at 16:08 (3,464 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Second what pierreandreply4 said. |
Post# 786892 , Reply# 4   10/2/2014 at 16:33 (3,464 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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no way would I buy Korean made LG! What part of New York? Yhere are alot of independent dealers that sell Speed Queen washers and dryers. Mike |
Post# 786923 , Reply# 5   10/2/2014 at 20:19 (3,464 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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Hate to burst your bubble,Mike but,most appliance parts are made oversseas. Not in the US. So quality,convenience,reliability,performance,and features weigh more then where the product is "assembled".
I have three LG front loading Tromms. Two have steam another is the 5.2 washer and matching dryer. The only repairs were a new door lock assembly on one and the other had to be overhauled from somebody washing lava rocks in it. Seriously!! "Magic Mushrooms" were rampid n the area this washer was abused.Anyway, LG paid for all my parts on it . All I had to pay was labor. If the life expectancy is so low,how the hell has their rating in both washers and dryers been the best overall and had the fewest repairs of ANY other brand??? Top loaders are water and power hogs. They tear clothes from the agitator blades and cause lint from fraying the fabric. They can't easily wash tents,shoes,backpacks,sleeping bags,area rugs,queen or king size down comforters,pillows or stuffed toys like my LGs do easily and with awesome results. The washers are direct drive. No pullies,no gears,no belts. Extremely user friendly,extremely quiet,warm rinse option,steam,sanitize and rinse only cycles along.with quick wash 22 minute cycle with a wash washand two deep rinses. The tilted drum and balance control make it purr when it spins up to 1300 rpms. Because of no sharp Edges,theirs little ware ant tare on clothes. That's why the dryer has less lint build up. The anual energy cost to operate averages $9 to $11!!! The dryers get clothes so dry so fast! Our water AND power bills went down considerably. I got the big ones last Summer for just under $2100. They're 29" wide and stacked. Interior lights to turn on and watch ad the drums are stainless steel. Quiet too . Almost silent. |
Post# 786965 , Reply# 6   10/3/2014 at 00:34 (3,464 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)   |   | |
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I can't conceive of ever buying a top load machine again - to me it makes no sense. Much less water and detergent are used in FL units and I feel they are kinder to the clothing. Plus I like the steam and heat options that cannot be matched in a TL machine. |
Post# 786979 , Reply# 7   10/3/2014 at 01:51 (3,464 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I agree with you,Matt. More versatility,safer on the environment,better , more thorough but gentle fabric care,easier to watch without opening a door,quieter and easy maintenance. The high speed spins are another feature I personally have always prefered. My old Askos spoiled me with their wopping 1800 rpm spins.
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Post# 787323 , Reply# 10   10/4/2014 at 23:25 (3,462 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Chris:
3) Washing a 12-lb. load in the Speed Queen will use approximately 38 gallons of water. Washing the same load in the LG will use around 15 gallons. Each machine will produce a thoroughly cleaned load. By the time the LG prompts you to use the "Clean Washer" cycle (about once every 50 loads), you will have saved around 1,150 gallons of water. The 8 gallons the washer will consume during the Clean Washer cycle doesn't even come close to the 1,150 gallons you saved. Frankly, I solve the problem by opening all the taps in my house for a couple of hours just to show that damn front-loader who is boss. Consuming anything less than the absolute maximum amount of water and electricity possible is for the weak and intellectually feeble.
5) I have steered several friends toward purchasing LG laundry equipment, none of whom have reported seeing an error code. I have had two washers with electronic controls and am embarrassed to report the same thing. None of our washers are connected to a surge protector because that is for pussies...but still no flashing error codes. We have been cheated!
6) I have a Speed Queen AWN542 and a 2010 Frigidaire front-loader. It is with grievous shame I report that the Frigidaire reduces my sewer, water, natural gas, and electric bills. Again, this is un-American. Use as much water, gas, oil, and electricity as possible. Not doing so means you're being cheated out of what is rightfully yours. But rest easy: it is a proven fact that no front-loader lasts longer than 3 years, so you'll consume more metal and plastic by choosing the LG. Winning!
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Post# 787347 , Reply# 11   10/5/2014 at 03:42 (3,462 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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I heard people (they know who I mean) claim that any manufacturer has only a "limited" warranty and SQ is soooo much better. First: Do these people even know what "limited" in this context means? Second:
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Post# 787356 , Reply# 12   10/5/2014 at 06:08 (3,462 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Well if it makes any difference, I switched my windows 7 PC to the power saver mode and bought some candles and a Dietz lantern so I don't have to switch on any lights at night. :) Who says I don't try to reduce energy usage? |
Post# 787359 , Reply# 14   10/5/2014 at 07:11 (3,462 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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I know henene4. But I'm working on it. Rome wasn't built in a day. Neither was Syracuse. |
Post# 787361 , Reply# 15   10/5/2014 at 07:22 (3,462 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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But a FL is... |
Post# 787434 , Reply# 17   10/5/2014 at 13:09 (3,462 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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P-s-s-s-s-s-t! Hey Ben! This is where you remind everyone you drive a very fuel-efficient, super-reliable Corolla, saving thousands of gallons of gasoline over its lifetime. The Mighty Geo (my rebadged Corolla) gets around 40 mpg on the highway, and the odometer turned over 262,000 miles on the way home from Mankato a few minutes ago. This post was last edited 10/05/2014 at 13:42 |
Post# 787513 , Reply# 21   10/5/2014 at 19:39 (3,461 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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4 weeks ago I was changing the sheets on my bed to some light blue ones. I didn't realize it at the time, but right before I started making up the bed, I'd cut my finger and I didn't realize it until after I had started putting the sheets on the bed that my finger was bleeding and I had gotten blood on my top sheet where my finger had streaked across it with blood. I wsent ahead and used those sheets for the week and actually forgot about the blood stain. Throw it in my Duet on Allergan with Tide HE with Bleach. To my shock, I'd forgotten about the stain and didn't set the control properly to deal with such a stain. It went through the washer and dryer. As I was folding the sheet, I noticed the blood stain still there, much to my disgust, they are some of my favorite sheets. So Wednesday evening this week, I put the "clean" sheet back in the machine with a scoop of Tide HE as well as Biz. I set the machine on Sanitary with deep clean stain treat with steam and erally didn't expect much. But I was gonna give it all I got. When I pulled the sheet out of the washer, I didn't think I saw the stain, but I didn't want to take chances, so I line dried the sheet and folded it up after it dried. I just put the sheet on the bed and there was absolutely no trace of the stain. I have never had such results with any top loader in my 50 years of doing laundry. I've always felt the European way of dealing with the myriad of stains is gradual heat from cool to extremely hot and oxygen bleach was far superior to the chemical laden approach of American laundry with short agitation and probably just as long a soak as it takes to heat the wash water in a European fashion. Eugene (Frigilux), your experiments have been reinforced with your outstanding laundry results in your Frigidaire with gradually heated hot water. I never got this type of results with my Frigidaire frond loader WITHOUT a heater. I'm not sure one could get this type of results with 40 gallons of cool water and heating it up to 160 degrees gradually with 5 doses of most American detergents and a top loader that would be equipped with a heater to heat those 40 gallons of water. I still feel front loades are far superior than top loaders for extremely tough stains and doing laundry such that I don't have to think about it, it does it for me. For average soil I use cycles which are 1 hour or less. But 2 to 4 times a month I have loads which need this type of treatment and I never have to check for stains, I just throw laundry in the machine. Unlike with my Lady Shredmore, I was inspecting every garment as it went into the machine and having to treat for stains. It took a whole cycle time length or more to inspect the next load. Laundry isn't nearly as tiring now. I just load, press buttons for proper sequences of heating, temperature, as well as tumble and spin speeds, and off I go to take care of other things. |
Post# 787776 , Reply# 25   10/7/2014 at 07:34 (3,460 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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As a self respecting human being I try hard to not buy Non-Union built items, especially when they come from countries that do not give a damn about diversity, human rights etc.
If you do not want to buy a SQ FL washer there are many good Union built washers coming out of Ohio from Whirlpool that will easily work as well as a LG. |
Post# 787939 , Reply# 26   10/8/2014 at 06:02 (3,459 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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That's a very good point, John, and one that I don't always think about, but should. |
Post# 787971 , Reply# 28   10/8/2014 at 10:38 (3,459 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Bob--- I've been using a "profile wash" for heavily-stained whites for 4+ years with excellent results. Never a stain remaining---and you've seen how brutal my stained loads are. Far worse than the test load Consumer Reports uses. The cycle begins with water at about 100 degrees and heats to 150. Each type of stain is washed in the temp considered ideal for complete removal. Glad to hear you found similar results!
As I've mentioned, I like to launder bed linens and bath towels using the Steam option, which on the Frigidaire means there's a 20-minute first rinse in heated/hot water and a second rinse in warm. Everything emerges steamy-warm at the end of the cycle without using extra water and only a little more electricity. This post was last edited 10/08/2014 at 12:21 |
Post# 787997 , Reply# 31   10/8/2014 at 12:43 (3,459 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Not to pull the thread completely off-topic, but since we're on the subject of assembled-in-America/American jobs, I'm happy to report my new Lennox furnace is made in Marshalltown, Iowa, at a 996,000 square foot factory employing 1200 people.
It's being installed by two men I know personally, and it was purchased at a local business whose owner I know personally. Doesn't get much more local than that! It wasn't the lowest bid, by far, but I also know that if the furnace fails in the dead of winter, I'll have a serviceman at my house very quickly. That alone buys a lot of peace of mind. Local businesses in very small towns tend to work hard to keep their customer base happy. They know it takes only a few unhappy customers complaining about bad service in the coffee shop to decimate their business. Come to think of it...my last two appliance purchases were also made here: GE dishwasher and the Speed Queen washer. |
Post# 787998 , Reply# 32   10/8/2014 at 12:52 (3,459 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Way to go Frig! Now what about the PODS? :) |
Post# 788051 , Reply# 33   10/8/2014 at 18:48 (3,458 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 788059 , Reply# 34   10/8/2014 at 19:31 (3,458 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 788063 , Reply# 35   10/8/2014 at 20:07 (3,458 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Whenever I see a detergent pod, I always think of Frig first, second, and last. |