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Post# 789301   10/16/2014 at 11:52 (3,473 days old) by lamont ()        

Hi all, first post here, I just entered the world of Wringer washers as my THOUSAND DOLLAR 2 year old Frontloader needed 900 dollars in parts(who is building these things nowadays???? 6502 bearings for a device that sees thousands of lbs of dynamic loading?????) So, after tearing Whirlpool a new one, I scoured CL for a new washer. Found this Blackstone 30P, no idea on age, but judging by the closed frame GE motor, the art-deco styling and cord age, I'd put it somewhere between 1925 and -35. It was locked up, did not spin, 5 min with working the pulley back and forth made it break free(probably 40 years of dried seals), plugged it in and it worked excellent. Seller agreed on a 25 dollar price. It was dirty, grungy, coated with basement dust and about 2" of drywall dust. I am of the mind that the less computer crap in my appliances the better. I used a 1926 Sears Prosperity Stove for 10 years because I liked the no-thermocouple-needing-to-be-lit oven.(regret selling it....)

Anyway, it has the funky Tri-agitator that just RIPS water around, rollers were stuck together and took a little to get them unstuck, was missing an oak bearing for the wringer(fabricated one myself from Homeydepot oak)that had chewed a roller a small amount. Tub has no leaks, gearbox is silent and smooth, pump is a little weak....need to look into that. Drain hose has a small leak, belt looks great, motor needed a little zoomspout and I need a new back after hercing it up to my 2nd story apartment.

Anyone have a parts list for this beast?( not that I'll find parts anywhere...)

I'll try and snap a few pics and upload them shortly.

I will say, this is a neat little corner of the web you guys (and gals) have here.





Post# 789303 , Reply# 1   10/16/2014 at 12:07 (3,473 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Hey Aaron, CONGRATS on finding the Blackstone wringer and getting it working again!  

Also, Welcome to AW!

 

I'm looking forward to seeing the photos!

 

Kevin


Post# 789355 , Reply# 2   10/16/2014 at 16:39 (3,472 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada)        
Welcome to the "wringer club", Aaron!

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I have been a fan of wringer washers since I was three years old, so I'm always happy to hear of a "convert"! Isn't it amazing the lack of quality that goes into some modern washers - I share your sentiment about the fewer appliances with motherboards and circuitry the better! Of course we all realize that "planned obsolescence" is just that - PLANNED! I currently have 3 vintage wringer washers, the oldest being my fully-restored 1935 Maytag, followed by a 1948 Kenmore, and the third is a 1977 Maytag. Love 'em all!

I'm not familiar with the Blackstone wringer, but I've seen online that they had an unusually-shaped agitator. The photo of a 1949 advertisement doesn't show the agitator, unfortunately. I'll look forward to seeing some pics of your machine!


Post# 789372 , Reply# 3   10/16/2014 at 18:50 (3,472 days old) by lamont ()        

Pictures!

The Agitator is really aggressive. The scoops are twisted on the axis of the shaft and are 6"+ deep at the deepest point.


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Post# 789374 , Reply# 4   10/16/2014 at 18:54 (3,472 days old) by lamont ()        

Oh, you can see the Thousand dollar, 2 year old junk sitting behind the almost 100 year old WORKING washer. I do have the lid for the Blackstone, but it needs some help.

Post# 789375 , Reply# 5   10/16/2014 at 18:57 (3,472 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        
More Blackstones!

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I will look through some old literature; I might have something on a model 30P. If I do, I'll scan and post.

Good deal for $25!


Post# 789376 , Reply# 6   10/16/2014 at 19:05 (3,472 days old) by lamont ()        

Thank you Sir!

Any idea on how old the washer is? I'm assuming from the stylized GE logo on the motor and matching to other motors I've seen from the era, I'm assuming pre war, as early as mid 20's. No clue if I'm right though.....


Post# 789411 , Reply# 7   10/16/2014 at 23:18 (3,472 days old) by bradross (New Westminster, BC., Canada)        
Probably 1940s...

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Hello again Aaron ... although I'm not specifically an expert on Blackstone models, the overall style is indicative of a machine from the 1940s. Perhaps Fred (Blackstone) can verify that.

The agitator DOES look aggressive! I wonder if you could switch it out for a more typical 3- or 4-vane agitator. That is, if you were looking for more gentle wash action. I would be curious to see that original agitator in action - how effective is the "roll over"?


Post# 789479 , Reply# 8   10/17/2014 at 15:03 (3,471 days old) by Blackstone (Springfield, Massachusetts)        
Predates Anything I Can Find....

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...here are a couple of scans for wringer parts breakdowns. Models are 330 and WRA_(10,15,20,30). Neither match your machine. As for anything prior to these, either my father was not selling Blackstones at the time, or did not save the literature. He started in business in 1938, fixing radios, and I know he dealt with Blackstones in the 1950s. I really don't remember too many wringers of any kind, and this would be going back to the early '60s. So, I guess I'm not much help with your wringer.

It seems like Blackstone liked the number "30". Your 30P is definitely older than the 330, which in turn is older than the WRA_30.

I do remember seeing one of those agitators, and wondering from where it came. Must have tossed it a long time ago.

Let me know if you want any other Blackstone advertising or promotional material, and I can send it your way.

Fred


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Post# 789490 , Reply# 9   10/17/2014 at 17:18 (3,471 days old) by lamont ()        

Fred, thank you!

Post# 790053 , Reply# 10   10/22/2014 at 12:39 (3,467 days old) by lamont ()        

Some updates. Replaced the belt(god, there is a bunch of sharp shit under this thing...peeled my thumb like an orange getting the old one off.), lubed the pump that hadn't seen grease in 40 years, cleaned a bunch of shmeg out of the drain tube and pump, made a new gasket for the pump cover out of cork, cleaned the "lint" screen(more for catching 1/2" rocks but....)in the bottom of the tub, painted most of the wringer with Appliance epoxy(not correct, but easier to deal with than the wife bitching about rust on her clothing :) ) New Discharge hose(1 1/4" heater hose...Not hard to find but spendy! 4.75 a foot at my local parts house!) The PO found the lid and what is left of the gasket so I picked that up and another shot of appliance paint on that as well. I contacted JJsmith in regards to getting these rollers re-habbed, waiting on a cost quote as I type.

But anyway, some updated Pics! I'll make a video next wash day to show the washing action.


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Post# 790055 , Reply# 11   10/22/2014 at 13:00 (3,467 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Action video request!  :-)



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