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Thread Number: 56870
/ Tag: Modern Dishwashers
Kitchenaid Dishwasher FAIL |
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| Post# 791775 11/3/2014 at 06:24 (3,452 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Post# 791785 , Reply# 1 11/3/2014 at 08:06 (3,452 days old) by DADoES  (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 Depends on user habits. The chopping blade does not contact the screen (probably to keep them both from wearing down quickly and to eliminate continuous noise). The screen can get clogged with fibrous/stringy food residue that is a challenge for enzymes to dissolve, bone fragments, paper from stray labels, twist-ties, etc. Dishwashers are not intended to be full-meal-deal garbage disposers, not even this design with a chopper mechanism. | ||
| Post# 791790 , Reply# 2 11/3/2014 at 09:28 (3,452 days old) by Magic_Clean (Florida) | ||
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Actually the water level in the unit appears to be low. The water level after the full fill time should at minimum; touch the bottom of the heating element all the way around. For a 10+ year old machine, the water inlet valve should be evaluated too. L.P. | ||
| Post# 791792 , Reply# 3 11/3/2014 at 10:01 (3,452 days old) by A440 () | ||
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Yuck! | ||
| Post# 791793 , Reply# 4 11/3/2014 at 10:09 (3,452 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Water Level | ||
| Post# 791801 , Reply# 5 11/3/2014 at 10:28 (3,452 days old) by A440 () | ||
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That gunk junk looked like pasta! That will cake up anything. Blah!
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| Post# 791802 , Reply# 6 11/3/2014 at 10:43 (3,452 days old) by Magic_Clean (Florida) | ||
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Yup the unit has a slight rearward tilt. However, for this pump in a stainless steel tub, the correct water level is reached when the water touches the bottom edge of the element. This is required for proper pressure and circulation. Just saying' :-) L.P. | ||
| Post# 791944 , Reply# 9 11/4/2014 at 04:06 (3,451 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
When I moved into a 70s rent house (I later bought) the Potscrubber wouldn't scrub squat. Mostly broken glass in the washarms with other muck backed up behind it. Dislodging all that, it worked fine for 10 more years until the tub rusted out and home-warranty replaced it.
Seems there is little limit to how oblivious your everyday appliance operator can be. BTW, I rented it from the owner who occupied it immediately before, so no blaming indifferent previous tenants. | ||
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Post# 791946 , Reply# 10 11/4/2014 at 04:22 (3,451 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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that's gross....my '97 Maytag has only been disassembled one time in 17 years...and all I found was a couple tiny pieces of saran plastic and a string likely off a dish towel as I dried my dishes with recessed bottoms that hold water. They don't make 'em like they used to. Maybe it's me, but I don't think those sideways pumps do as good a job.
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| Post# 792002 , Reply# 11 11/4/2014 at 13:30 (3,451 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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What a mess. You know it may be okay to tell some families to pre-rinse. Looking for a happy medium between the video and success. | ||
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Post# 792008 , Reply# 12 11/4/2014 at 14:08 (3,451 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI) |
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| Post# 792014 , Reply# 13 11/4/2014 at 15:10 (3,450 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
I guess I'll address the elephant in the room...
Why did he start taking the pump assembly apart with the tub still full of water? The drain pump was obviously not an issue.... I'm surprised that didn't annoy anyone else. I've never seen a self-cleaning filter/chopper dishwasher that bad. A filter machine, yes, most certainly. I doubt that machine has ever been disassembled in its entire life. It's amazing the variation between people that don't rinse dishes but know not to leave copious amounts of waste on them, and then the people that think you should dump the rest of the chicken stew in along with the pot. My aunt on my dad's side (the one I'm not as fond of) has a GE with the filter. She's called me twice in the last year or so because the dishwasher won't clean, and will sound like it's choking on air. Both times I've cleaned and disassembled it, there's been the grossest goop caked on the filter and in the perforated bell that the filter sits over. She swears that she uses the Heavy cycle with Heat Boost, and sometimes the Sani-Rinse. She also says they scrape dishes, though the consistency of some of the stuff in the bottom is like stringy chicken pieces or almost dissolved noodles. I've tried to coach her into making sure that the only stuff left on the dishes is what can be melted and dissolved with hot water; if it's solid bits, get them down the sink drain. | ||
| Post# 792022 , Reply# 14 11/4/2014 at 16:20 (3,450 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Filter | ||
| Post# 792041 , Reply# 15 11/4/2014 at 19:10 (3,450 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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I think with having that much goop and yuck stuck in the filter/chopper area the DW would have developed an odor to tell you all was not well in there. | ||
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Post# 792064 , Reply# 16 11/4/2014 at 20:33 (3,450 days old) by Chetlaham (United States) |
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Post# 792925 , Reply# 18 11/9/2014 at 13:48 (3,446 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP Built Tall-Tub DWs With A Soft Food Chopper
This is a good thread but it has contained a lot of mistakes and and poor advice.
First big mistake was the repair video, the repair guy failed to diagnose or FIX the KA DW in question. The grinding plate behind the chopper blade NEVER CLOGS on these DWs unless the chopper is NOT TURNING, the KA DW he was repairing has a stripped drive for the chopper, the DW needed a new wash impeller. If the chopper is not turning one of these DWs it will not get through more than a load or two without the screen clogging. This DW design is easily the most popular DW design in use in the United States today, probably between 1/3 to 1/2 of all DWs are of this design today. These were made from around 2000 through early 2014. The sludge that was under the filter plate that the repair guy removed first is a common sight in many different DW designs to day. You often see the same sludge under the sump cover of GE DWs and under the big round cover of MT DWs both regular and Tall Tub machines. We believe this build-up is caused by using too little detergent along with cheap detergents and too short a complete cycle for the job to be done. I advise all my customers to day to use a good detergent tablet AND to add a table spoon or so of regular DW detergent to the open cup or just on the inside door of the DW. DWs really need two doses of detergent for great cleaning. | ||
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