Thread Number: 57002
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
new FL pair in the works----what would you buy? |
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Post# 792915 , Reply# 1   11/9/2014 at 13:23 (3,427 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 792922 , Reply# 3   11/9/2014 at 13:40 (3,427 days old) by brucelucenta ()   |   | |
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Oh yes and they are stacked too. Very convenient for me. |
Post# 793054 , Reply# 4   11/10/2014 at 08:28 (3,426 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, CT)   |   | |
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They still seem like the best option out there.
Even though (I'm sure) Speed Queen's are built even better, they don't have the capcity and correct me if I'm wrong an on board heater. I really really don't like anything made by LG or Samsung in regards to appliances. Best of luck with whatever you decide and keep us posted. |
Post# 793057 , Reply# 5   11/10/2014 at 08:41 (3,426 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 793100 , Reply# 7   11/10/2014 at 13:52 (3,426 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 793142 , Reply# 8   11/10/2014 at 19:12 (3,425 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 793151 , Reply# 9   11/10/2014 at 20:37 (3,425 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 793309 , Reply# 14   11/11/2014 at 20:34 (3,424 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Yes it does use more water, I've noticed that sometimes during heavy loads it will almost fill 3 times throught the main wash on heavy duty. The lowest time would be 1h and 7mins on light soils. |
Post# 793313 , Reply# 15   11/11/2014 at 20:45 (3,424 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Should also add, when we washed our king size comforter, we saw 0 water in it which was a little scary. But when we opened the door the entire comforter was soaking wet. |
Post# 793381 , Reply# 19   11/12/2014 at 05:58 (3,424 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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A Speed Queen is , in my opinion, the ONLY choice, I have looked at them and talked to service men, it just all comes down to better quality. |
Post# 793467 , Reply# 22   11/12/2014 at 14:59 (3,424 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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In "Normal" wash cycles.
When first started using my OKO/AEG Lavamat was worried about what seemed a puny amount of water. However as stated up thread the water is there just inside the wash. The idea is more forcing highly concentrated detergent/water solution through laundry rather than tumbling it about in lots of water. |
Post# 793489 , Reply# 23   11/12/2014 at 17:29 (3,424 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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I wonder if Electrolux washers still work like two years ago. Normal cycle with Max Fill option:
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Post# 793586 , Reply# 24   11/13/2014 at 05:43 (3,423 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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The Duet's and Maxima's use decent amounts of water.
My 10 year old duet uses the exact same amount of water for washing and rinsing, and water does not touch the boot EVER unless you choose delicate, soak, or use the hidden clean washer cycle. It has been a GREAT washer and it's still going strong (KNOCK ON WOOD) |
Post# 793715 , Reply# 25   11/13/2014 at 17:39 (3,423 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Its funny how the new duets use even more water for the deep rinse then the older ones. Always touches the boot for mine on deep rinse. |
Post# 793723 , Reply# 26   11/13/2014 at 18:26 (3,423 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Here it is, the deeprinse! Actully Lied, it almost touches the bottom of the glass door. |
Post# 793738 , Reply# 28   11/13/2014 at 19:37 (3,422 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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This is the normal cycle deep rinse. If its a tight fit i think you should probably go for the speed queen. |
Post# 793755 , Reply# 29   11/13/2014 at 21:10 (3,422 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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I check weekly at Home Depot on sales. They have major reductions now going on. The two matching units I highly recommend are not only attractive but do lots of laundry and have been among the most popular models made by L.G.
I know there are some supposedly negative thoughts and stories here and out about how many people hate them only because they're not made in America. To them I say the facts. Most of the brands name tags with the model and serial numbers on them say "Assembled in America" what they can't and don't say is MADE in America. That's because even though they're assembled here, their parts are made overseas. China,Hong Kong,North Korea, Japan,Italy,Indonesia. So,I use my own judgement from mg own experiences and the LGs are by far my personal favorite. I can have anywhere from a 22minute to a 2hr30minute cycle. They're exrrely quiet,hold lots of laundry, spin extreamly fast and are nice to watch The Home Depot has the huge 30" set on sale $999/washer,$1099 dryer but you say that's too big so these two: WM4270HWA @$799 And DLGX4271 @$899 Are IMHO are the best. I'd get them with the five year extended service contract because it's better to have and not need it then it is to need and not have it. Aloha! Chuck |
Post# 793799 , Reply# 30   11/14/2014 at 07:15 (3,422 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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You will need it, only problem is consumers who purchase extended service contracts are usually far less satisfied with with service and generally do not keep the appliance as long before it is scraped. Probably the only good thing about a SC is after many failed repair attempts and a weeks worth of pay lost from taking off for incompetent repair attempts you can can usually get them to give you a new appliance, and then you can start all over again, LOL
An American built and backed machine almost always makes more since in the first place. This week all of us went through refresher training for appliance repair and out of a class of about 35 guys when the subject of LG or Samsung appliances came up almost everyone in the room said they do not touch them, they are all still echoing stores about parts problems, flimsy cheap construction, poor technical support, and if you do actually succeed in fixing them they do not want to pay the service company. This is what we heard over ten years ago and it seems to have not gotten any better. I did not hear one person echo any support for any SS or LG appliance. Refrigerator, ice-maker and dishwashers were the ones that had the largest # of complaints, the washers and dryers do seem in most cases to actually work for some # years, although I have never seen such thin metal in dryers and refrigerators as you see on these Korean appliances. Samsung and LG only concern is to get this junk into your home after that good luck. |
Post# 793903 , Reply# 32   11/14/2014 at 17:53 (3,422 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 793907 , Reply# 33   11/14/2014 at 18:00 (3,422 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 793996 , Reply# 34   11/15/2014 at 08:38 (3,421 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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but I wouldn't want a TL washer since it doesn't have a heater. Not all FL washers are bad. My Duet has been pretty awesome and the heater gets the water really hot! I LOVE the looks of some of the LG's but I'm afraid of them for the reasons the person above mentioned, so I doubt I would ever get an LG or Samsung. For me it would be Whirlpool/Maytag or SQ front loader *IF* it has a heater.
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Post# 794024 , Reply# 36   11/15/2014 at 10:09 (3,421 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Best wishes on your new machines! Hope they give you good service like your last set and that those you give your neighbors serve them well. Very nice gesture on your part.
Our eight year old FL Frigidaire set is going strong. Just one repair last year -- door lock on washer. Not bad. The FL washer of the Frigidaire set I previously owned and gave to my son in 2006 finally gave it up after 13 years with no repairs. He bought another small door "Frig-more" at a Sears Outlet that was new old stock. Basically the same machine that matches the 13 year old dryer. Can you post a photo of your new set? |
Post# 794038 , Reply# 38   11/15/2014 at 11:57 (3,421 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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....they are still working on the ducting/water supply.
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Post# 794042 , Reply# 39   11/15/2014 at 12:02 (3,421 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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Post# 794220 , Reply# 41   11/16/2014 at 08:13 (3,420 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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If the opportunity arises, I'm curious about the Steam option. On my Frigidaire, there is no dedicated steam producer as there is on a Whirlpool or LG. Mine "adds steam" in one of two ways:
1) Adding the Steam option to a cycle gives you a 20-minute first rinse in very warm (around 115-120 degrees) water. The 2nd rinse is in warm water. I've never seen so much as a single wisp of steam in the tub. Cleaning is improved by the longer tumble, and the warm rinse produces a nice warm load at the end of the cycle. Try it on bed and bath linens. 2) Selecting the Allergen option (available only on the Heavy cycle) plus the Steam option: Allergen extends the wash portion of the cycle by about 20 minutes, heating the water to around 130 degrees. "Adding Steam" appears on the screen for about 15 minutes during the wash cycle. Again, have never seen steam. Cleaning is improved by extending and heating the wash water. The first rinse is not extended and the second rinse is in cold water. I see the Electrolux has a dedicated Allergen cycle, rather than providing it as an option to add to other cycles. Wondering what the protocol is on your Electrolux. Try adding only the steam option to the Normal or Whitest Whites cycle for a load and let me know what the procedure is on your machine. I always use it for loads of sheets and bath towels, providing one the sensory pleasure of pulling out steamy-warm items at the end of the cycle. Glad you're liking the results from your Electrolux! |
Post# 794232 , Reply# 44   11/16/2014 at 09:13 (3,420 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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"there is no dedicated steam producer as there is on a Whirlpool or LG"
Like there was - neither Whirlpool, nor LG use them any longer. Steam is made by the heater underneath the tub.
Eugene, for the "steam rinse" - are clothes actually wet or just tumbling damp in some steam (and thus not being rinsed)? And what about the Stain Treat option? It fills with cold and heats the water up? How's that supposed to work given the relatively weak heater?
Here's LG's steam option: it fills with some water and tumbles the clothes - without really adding detergent due to the ultra-low steam water level.
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Post# 794249 , Reply# 46   11/16/2014 at 09:43 (3,420 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Hi Alexander-- The "steam rinse" uses the same amount of water as a regular 1st rinse. I didn't realize brands with dedicated steam producers had abandoned the format. Thanks for the information.
I found the Stain Treat option ineffective. I used it on a couple of loads of stained kitchen whites and was not impressed with the results. As you said, the water never really heats up to a hot temperature unless you use the Heavy cycle and add the Allergen option. To remove stains from colors, I add the Steam option to a cycle. I experience excellent stain removal using the Sanitize cycle or the Heavy cycle coupled with the Allergen option. |
Post# 794251 , Reply# 47   11/16/2014 at 09:48 (3,420 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 794256 , Reply# 50   11/16/2014 at 10:01 (3,420 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Personally, I think "Steam" was a dumb idea someone came up with to still attain high temperatures without having to heat a tub full of 3 or 4 gallons of water to 153 degrees. I'd rather just have the profile heating of from cool to sanitize like the original stain treat on HE3t and HE4t Kenmores. I only use deepclean with steam option to heat the water gradually form warm to hot or sanitize for very heavily stained fabrics. |
Post# 794273 , Reply# 52   11/16/2014 at 11:26 (3,420 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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When these models were first released, the service manual listed these temps:
Sanitize - 152°F
Since that was some time ago, I am guessing the current temps could be more something like this
Sanitize - 152°F Allergen - 131°F Hot - 113°F Warm - 75°F ... |
Post# 794327 , Reply# 53   11/16/2014 at 18:07 (3,420 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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Danke für die hilfreiche Informationen. :)
Jetzt bei Electrolux gibt es nur "Heiss" "Warm" "Kalt", sowie "Eco Kalt". Ich glaube, dass Heiss Warm und Kalt werden von Auto Temp Control kontrolliert.
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Post# 794486 , Reply# 55   11/17/2014 at 13:38 (3,419 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Jim, you'll enjoy being able to wash comforters at home in your own machine. I wash mine about every six weeks and it's so much more convenient than taking a trip to the laundromat, using a washer that has had god-knows-what in it.
It's also nice to have a large capacity machine for the occasional huge load---bath linens, in my case. |
Post# 794625 , Reply# 56   11/18/2014 at 03:10 (3,418 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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Post# 795255 , Reply# 59   11/21/2014 at 12:54 (3,415 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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I have been looking at these Electrolux machines for some time now since I want to replace the stacked Frigidaire built GE's that I have. I want bigger capacity and better wash performance not to mention a bigger dryer. The front loader is relatively new and that will slide in the place of my SQ top loader aka the water hog. That machine I am going to put on Craigslist soon. It's going need another belt soon and the spin bearings are starting to get a bit noticeable.
Anyways I am glad that your liking them! It's either the Electrolux ones or LG Turbowash for me. |
Post# 795450 , Reply# 62   11/22/2014 at 12:40 (3,414 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Unfortunately, Electrolux and Frigidaire machines all rate only a 'Good' for resistance to vibration at Consumer Reports. They recommend choosing only machines with ratings of 'Very Good' or 'Excellent' for installation on anything other than concrete.
My 2010 Frigdaire is on concrete, so as with your Electrolux, Jim, vibration is not an issue in the least. Hope the company lives up to its guarantee if your friend chooses an Electrolux and experiences vibration issues. |
Post# 795607 , Reply# 64   11/23/2014 at 13:24 (3,413 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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My laundry is in the basement so it sits on concrete...no vibration issues at all here. I did notice that at Home Depot that the Electrolux washer didnt have the larger blue wash vanes, they were rather like bumps. Height though is an issue for me since I can go up to 76 inches comfortably and a few more inches before it touches the floor joists. I too am average height at 5'10'' and I was looking at a GE stacked set, I could barely touch the back of the drum so to me if I got the GE's they would have to be side by side...and this was the 8 cuft dryer. I always open the dryer and see if I can touch the back because small items like socks and wash cloths tend to lodge there. The Maytag Neptunes that I had that were built by Samsung...rotten machines if you ask me...anyways I had to climb into the dryer to get the last bit of wash load out of the dryer...and it wasnt stacked.
To me the Electroluxes are the right combo of capacity and height. The LG's on the other hand, sweet jeezus they are tall. I do like the Turbowash feature and many have reported that linting is non existant. Thats an issue with me since we have 4 cats and I line dry in the spring and summer. I think as good sales are coming I am going to buy a new set soon. |
Post# 795647 , Reply# 65   11/23/2014 at 16:43 (3,413 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Our laundry room is on the second floor. It sits on tile and the vibrations are barly there. Sometimes if the load is perfect there are 0 vibrations. |
Post# 795842 , Reply# 68   11/24/2014 at 20:34 (3,411 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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Matt, I have a pair of those---used for my 100 gallon saltwater aquarium when reef rocks fall over, to keep my hands dry---and they may find service in the laundry area as well! Have to be careful because any laundry residue would not be good for them. Maybe buy a second pair for laundry only. |
Post# 796483 , Reply# 70   11/29/2014 at 15:08 (3,407 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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