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Post# 793691   11/13/2014 at 15:14 (3,423 days old) by WaterWitch (Pomona, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 793695 , Reply# 1   11/13/2014 at 15:43 (3,423 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 793704 , Reply# 3   11/13/2014 at 16:45 (3,423 days old) by WaterWitch (Pomona, Calif.)   |   | |
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Revvinkevin, I picked up a Westinghouse off of Craig's list, and from what I've seen on YouTube, it's from the 1970's, and it indexes. I couldn't pass it up, the price was right. It was FREE! Lol! Washdaddy, interesting, I have known for some to index, but wasn't sure why. I've always associated indexing tubs on cheaper models.
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Post# 793706 , Reply# 4   11/13/2014 at 16:51 (3,423 days old) by WaterWitch (Pomona, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 793711 , Reply# 5   11/13/2014 at 17:22 (3,423 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 793713 , Reply# 6   11/13/2014 at 17:26 (3,423 days old) by washdaddy (Baltimore)   |   | |
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that is the exact machine my grandmother had. It does index. |
Post# 793748 , Reply# 7   11/13/2014 at 20:14 (3,423 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)   |   | |
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Post# 793760 , Reply# 8   11/13/2014 at 21:20 (3,423 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 793789 , Reply# 9   11/14/2014 at 04:47 (3,422 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Doesn't that spiralator reveal a Weasyhouse? Weren't those better overall than the subsequent Whites?
Whether intended, or simply marketed, as a feature, indexing results from a unidirectional spin brake. That is, it only brakes in the (counter) direction of spin and is relatively free to move in the opposite direction. I don't think that necessarily connotes cheapness. A positive brake is one thing. A unidirectional brake actually requires another set of parts to make it unidirectional, though those parts may serve a dual purpose such as transmission decoupling. |
Post# 793818 , Reply# 10   11/14/2014 at 08:40 (3,422 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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No Washer manufacturer ever set out to design a washer tub that indexed during agitation, As several mentioned it was just a CHEAPER way to build the machine. There is actually NO BRAKE at all, there is a torque spring that does hold the tub as the agitation reverses, but it is not a brake as such and the reason it is there is grip when the motor reverses to make the washer spin.
Only Franklin and Westinghouse ever designed and built washers that indexed, both of these brands were never considered good brands or great washers. Westinghouse TL washers from the 60s through the early 70s were terrible in regards to durability. WCI ended up with both these washer designs and did improve the durability quite a bit as the 80s and 90s moved on. Indexing tub washers were a classic case of having a bad design and calling it a good thing, this is much the same as Spin Drain TL washers, they were basically built to spin drain because they were cheaper [ and sometimes more reliable ] to build, and then manufactures that built them tried to call it an advantage. |
Post# 794072 , Reply# 13   11/15/2014 at 14:58 (3,421 days old) by spinspeed (Far North New South Wales Australia (originally London UK))   |   | |
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Post# 794079 , Reply# 14   11/15/2014 at 15:20 (3,421 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Most cases, the basket rotation is actively driven in one direction in repetitive short arc-distances, presumably by an effect related to the spin clutch and agitation mechanisms ... although it can typically be held stationary by hand. Your F&P is different in that the basket truly is free-wheeling and the movement is sympathetic to the agitation and clothes motion. |
Post# 794107 , Reply# 15   11/15/2014 at 18:24 (3,421 days old) by camMURRAY22 (Savannah,Georgia)   |   | |
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It's called tri-action agitation. Call the company and see if I'm right. Thanks, Christopher P.S., Here is a pic of one of the filter-flo washers here in Savannah at Bowen Refrigeration. |
Post# 794112 , Reply# 16   11/15/2014 at 19:11 (3,421 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 794114 , Reply# 17   11/15/2014 at 19:28 (3,421 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 794115 , Reply# 18   11/15/2014 at 19:33 (3,421 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 794261 , Reply# 20   11/16/2014 at 10:21 (3,420 days old) by camMURRAY22 (Savannah,Georgia)   |   | |
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The older models wash better than the newer machines of today. The older work better too. Here's a pic: |
Post# 794267 , Reply# 21   11/16/2014 at 10:50 (3,420 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Post# 794281 , Reply# 22   11/16/2014 at 12:08 (3,420 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 794314 , Reply# 24   11/16/2014 at 16:50 (3,420 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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I believe what he meant to say is that no manufacturer ever decided at the design phase to produce a machine that would positively index the tub. Of course, marketing research to determine if their was ever a manufacturer (WCI) proclaiming any benefit to a rotating wash action...
I always thought the indexing tub in the WCI machines helped take the strain of agitation off of the transmission. In an overloaded condition, I have seen those tubs really move... Malcolm |
Post# 794377 , Reply# 27   11/16/2014 at 21:58 (3,420 days old) by camMURRAY22 (Savannah,Georgia)   |   | |
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Just to let you know that I love using the older stuff. I had that fan and my dryer since 1982. Me and my appliances are 32, the more you take care of your stuff the longer it lasts. Just like these Unimacs at my job in the laundry. Here's Big Troy: |
Post# 794378 , Reply# 28   11/16/2014 at 22:01 (3,420 days old) by camMURRAY22 (Savannah,Georgia)   |   | |
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washers Lil Troy, Rose, and Esther: |
Post# 794721 , Reply# 29   11/18/2014 at 14:21 (3,418 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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