Thread Number: 57279
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Speed Queen Front Load Washer Help |
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Post# 795996 , Reply# 1   11/25/2014 at 22:59 (3,431 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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John "combo52" is the resident Speed Queen front-load booster around here. He may be able to advise you on what may be causing the noise your machine is making.
Based upon what John has said in the past, you would have a tough time doing much better than Speed Queen for build quality and longevity in a front-loader. |
Post# 796000 , Reply# 3   11/25/2014 at 23:25 (3,431 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 796002 , Reply# 5   11/25/2014 at 23:47 (3,431 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 796005 , Reply# 6   11/25/2014 at 23:58 (3,431 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Your machine is being used in a residential setting. That is all that should matter. Less than two years even with as much use as your machine has had still isn't enough for it to be failing already.
I think Joe is onto something. If you've been running full loads, and considering how often you've been doing so, the odds are pretty decent that a coin or button could have worked its way into the outer drum. |
Post# 796008 , Reply# 8   11/26/2014 at 00:29 (3,431 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 796015 , Reply# 9   11/26/2014 at 04:28 (3,431 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 796171 , Reply# 11   11/27/2014 at 00:45 (3,430 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Of course the guy at the dealership wants to sell you a new machine. He clearly is not at all familiar with the product, or thinks you're not.
I suggest you contact SQ directly by phone -- not one of their dealers. The number should be provided in the literature that came with the machine, or on line. SQ will dispatch a certified repairman in your area as part of your warranty coverage.
If the guy the dealer recommended won't work on a machine that's under warranty, that strongly suggests he's not a SQ authorized repair man. In other words, if he touches your machine the warranty is void.
From what you've described directly above, I wonder if one of the tub's springs has broken. |
Post# 796177 , Reply# 12   11/27/2014 at 05:28 (3,430 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 796196 , Reply# 13   11/27/2014 at 09:42 (3,430 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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It sounds like something might have gotten stuck in between the tubs. This is often something like an under wire from a bra. If you cannot find the problem easily call the local SQ repair service, your machine has a THREE year warranty that should cover all failures for both parts, labor and service calls, however if you got a foreign object caught in the machine this might not be covered, but a service call just to remove a foreign object should not be that expensive.
Your washer should last 10 years or more even with this heavy use, we have an installation where a pair of these machines has gotten 15-20 loads a day use for over 6 years now with no major failures. However when you use a machine so much and depend on it for daily service you should have a 2nd washer as a backup as things will go wrong from time to time. |
Post# 796231 , Reply# 15   11/27/2014 at 14:19 (3,430 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Considering your location, I'd guess water usage isn't much of a concern. A SQ top loader would be far less expensive even if you went with the top of the line model, but the top loaders do still have a tendency to eat through drive belts, which could become a nuisance considering how much laundry you do. I also maintain that rinsing is sub-par on SQ top loaders. I had an Amana, which at the time was a SQ clone, and it sucked at rinsing, particularly towels.
Be advised that the newest SQ machines for 2015 will have electronic controls, so if you prefer knobs and dials, now's the time to shop.
I still think your front loader can be repaired and that it will provide you with many more years of service, but if you've found you prefer a top loader, that's understandable.
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Post# 796343 , Reply# 16   11/28/2014 at 12:11 (3,429 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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So you have a Speed Queen FL machine that is less than two years old and the dealer told you to buy a new machine? That's the last time I would ever darken the doorway again of that dealer! What is he, nuts? That is not typical of most Speed Queen dealers that sell their washers. Do as the others have suggested, call Speed Queen directly. |
Post# 796371 , Reply# 17   11/28/2014 at 16:02 (3,429 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 796374 , Reply# 18   11/28/2014 at 16:21 (3,429 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)   |   | |
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Pierre its also how you seem to deal with people here when they have a FL that's perfectly suited for their needs and it does not suit your agenda.
Before you suggest they throw out FL sets find out what suits THEM before you type your drivel. OP - a FL makes perfect sense for your situation. The water and energy savings alone given the amount of laundry you do will soon rack up to a noticeable saving. The faster and more efficient spin of a FL will cut your drying times in the dryer again saving you money. FL's wash more gently and get clothes cleaner not only that do they rinse better than TL's so fabric wear and tear is reduced thus saving you money again given the amount of clothing you must wash. Again like others have said consult SQ and be backed up on any trading laws and goods laws as applicable to you. Don't let them screw you. |
Post# 796425 , Reply# 20   11/29/2014 at 00:20 (3,428 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 796431 , Reply# 21   11/29/2014 at 01:38 (3,428 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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$200-$300 for a bearing job is cheap. I've heard that they can cost $600 to replace. But they shouldn't need replacing for at least 10-12 years. Well at least you have a repair man on your way. Let us know what he finds. |
Post# 796441 , Reply# 22   11/29/2014 at 08:02 (3,428 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 796606 , Reply# 26   11/30/2014 at 08:35 (3,427 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 797004 , Reply# 27   12/2/2014 at 16:13 (3,425 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Bearings blown in two years sounds like poor design,or workmanship or inferior materials were being used. |
Post# 797059 , Reply# 29   12/2/2014 at 23:34 (3,424 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 797061 , Reply# 30   12/2/2014 at 23:36 (3,424 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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You need to escalate directly with SQ. As advised above, DO NOT contact local dealers or service agencies. Contact SQ directly. Insist that they take responsibility (although I don't think you'll need to insist) and see the repair process through to your satisfaction.
Again, DO NOT contact any local businesses. If SQ provides you with contact information for a local repair service, ask that they make the call and conference with you and the repair people so everyone is on the same page.
All of this advice is moot however, if you never registered your machine with SQ after purchase.
Surely you are not the first person in northwest Oregon who has required service on a SQ front loader. Somebody in your area has to know how to repair them.
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Post# 797075 , Reply# 31   12/3/2014 at 01:02 (3,424 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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By contacting a dealer or repair service you are just adding an unnecessary layer of BS to the problem. Do as advised above, contact Speed Queen in Wisconsin directly. We really can't say it any stronger than that. |
Post# 797120 , Reply# 32   12/3/2014 at 07:08 (3,424 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 797131 , Reply# 33   12/3/2014 at 09:48 (3,424 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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I would make note as well to Alliance about the local dealers/servicers and the experiences you have had..... aren't they under contract for sales and service, whether you got it from them or not..... customer service is part of that contract agreement.... JohnL would know and have info on this... I know a local guy here who was a Maytag and Speed Queen(when it was McGraw-Edison)Dealer/Servicer...and he could not turn away service for any warranty repair or he would lose his contract to be an Authorized dealer.....willing to bet its still the same... you have them on the phone, doesn't hurt to ask.....don't play around...do it! |
Post# 797133 , Reply# 34   12/3/2014 at 10:08 (3,424 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Heard this story from my neighbor. Many years ago had had one of those GE Omni 5 ovens, bought from a dealer in his home town (east side of the county). A problem occurred with it requiring service after he moved here (west side of the county) in the mid 1980s. He went to the local GE dealer and they refused to service the unit because he didn't buy it from them. He called GE to complain, and explain that the original dealer was no longer in business so he couldn't go back to them in any case. GE wouldn't do anything about the situation, told him service policy is up to individual dealers. |
Post# 797139 , Reply# 35   12/3/2014 at 10:22 (3,424 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 797142 , Reply# 36   12/3/2014 at 10:33 (3,424 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 797151 , Reply# 37   12/3/2014 at 11:25 (3,424 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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But we have a Maytag dealer here in ICT, that if you didn't buy it from them; they won't service it.
You will call them and ask for service, first question they ask. "Where was it purchased?" try lying to them "I don't know." "What's the serial number?" "give them the number" "That serial number was purchased at Lowe's, call someone else." |
Post# 797170 , Reply# 38   12/3/2014 at 12:43 (3,424 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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There's always your local newspaper's "Action Line" column, if they still run one, or a local TV station's consumer-focused segment of their newscast, if any of them devote time to one, but you really don't have that kind of time to waste waiting for results.
I'm not a "twit" and I don't do Facebook, but as Malcom stated above, those have proven to be effective and relatively instantaneous methods to shame those who are behaving badly into quick remediation.
Still, the first thing you should do -- if you haven't already -- is contact SQ directly and keep escalating until you get results to your satisfaction. If it's not your nature to be a squeaky wheel, put your best game face on and start playing some polite but serious hardball. The situation your local dealers and servicers have placed you in is truly unacceptable, and that is why you need to go over their heads and take your issue to the source. |
Post# 797179 , Reply# 39   12/3/2014 at 14:13 (3,424 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)   |   | |
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We are a Maytag dealer. We are a "self-servicing" dealer. That means when someone calls that bought elsewhere, I do not have to service that product and sometimes it means if I do an unauthorized warranty job on something not bought here, I don't get paid. The reason that a lot of dealers/servicers turn down warranty work is that the amount of money they receive back from the company is pitiful. Warranty work does not pay. Also, since we service what we sell, it's a reason to buy here. A big box store here was telling customers that we did all their warranty work and to just buy from them since the prices were cheaper. This was total BS and I called the appliance manager and gave him a nice talking to. There were a few upset people that had appliance problems and I wouldn't do the work. One person said "but Lowes said you'd do it." You know my response "CALL LOWES!"
For the OP, SQ should be able to set you up with an authorized service center. I understand why the dealers would put you off though. |
Post# 797186 , Reply# 40   12/3/2014 at 14:49 (3,424 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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I understand the reason you refuse warranty work, because of the low reimbursement rate from the company.
My contention is: The way to build a customer base and entice someone to come to or return to your store is not by telling them to go elsewhere, be rude, or hang up on them. I promise you I won't beg you to service my appliance, but I won't darken your door when it comes time to replace it either. Spend 10 extra seconds on the phone to explain that service is offered by ___________, for items purchased at big box stores, and maybe even offer a phone number. This makes you a nice helpful repair person. Apparently the company puts you, the independent, in a bad position where you then have to practice good customer service. |
Post# 797197 , Reply# 41   12/3/2014 at 16:19 (3,424 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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as for any dealer...service it, don't service it.....it your reputation....and in todays world, its not a local thing.....
as Ralph mentioned....facebook, twitter, internet goes world wide.....are you on Angie's List?....with bad input!.....word of mouth has expanded like it or not, people will read and judge for themselves....reason to shop, or reason to stay away! |
Post# 797199 , Reply# 42   12/3/2014 at 16:29 (3,424 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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It all depends if these people have contracts with the distributors or with the manufacturers...
I can order GE/Monogram/SpeedQueen all day long from one of my distributors... I'm not an authorized retailer though. That is the way a lot of these places are. They can get their product from a distributor and sell it but they aren't authorized by the parent companies... Most places will service what THEY sell but not what others sell because they won't get reimbursement. They made the profit off of the original customer to cover the warranty labor, the parts are still replaced under manufacturer's warranty. The difference is if they have a signed agreement with the manufacturer authorizing them as a retailer. They still order their products from the same distributor but they are an authorized center and will get reimbursed labor rates and discounted parts etc. A place that has an agreement with the manufacturer will never turn away service on a product from that manufacturer regardless of where it was purchased. They would have their flag pulled if the company found out! |
Post# 797200 , Reply# 43   12/3/2014 at 16:32 (3,424 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Case and point: We always purchased oreck through a distributor, we didn't have a retail agreement with Oreck.
People bring their orecks in for service that have the forever or 21 guarantee.. We never sold that model but we did their free/complimentary services on them and never got reimbursed. The reason we did it because after the second or third service, we'd show them the Riccar SupraLite and they'd trade it in. A few belts and a small amount of labor given away was always worth it when selling a product we are making profit on. |
Post# 797251 , Reply# 45   12/3/2014 at 22:33 (3,423 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Im glad to hear that you are finally going to get Speed Queen to have a service provider make the necessary repair. However, it seems to me if the service provider said that the repairs would cost more than the cost of a new machine they could at least pick it up from your home and return it when the repair is complete. Better yet, if the repair will in fact cost as much as a new machine, why isn't Speed Queen just giving you a new machine? You have already been inconvienenced enough, what with a broken machine for several days and $53.00 spent at the laundramat.
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Post# 797261 , Reply# 47   12/3/2014 at 23:08 (3,423 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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If the service provider has told you that there will need to be repeat repairs on your machine this would seem to me to validate even more that Speed Queen should replace the machine. And this certainly doesn't answer why they can't even be bothered to pick up and return the almost 200 lb machine in order to complete the repair. I thought that Speed Queen provided a 3 year warranty? I was seriously contemplating getting a Speen Queen front loader, due to our drought in Calif. Call me a Speed Queen heretic, but after reading about your run around on a 2 year old machine with serious repair issues, I don't think I will be entertaining that idea anymore.
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Post# 797269 , Reply# 48   12/4/2014 at 00:18 (3,423 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)   |   | |
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Im just curious about what laundry detergent
you use with the all laundry you do for your family David? (It doesn't make any differance) Im very pleased to hear you will be getting your speed queen repaired! We all know how important it is to us to have our machines in working order when we need to use them. I do find it odd they are going to charge you a price more than the original cost of your machine when it states on there website: "3 year warranty parts and labor on all machines" just doesn't sound completely right to me. |
Post# 797270 , Reply# 49   12/4/2014 at 00:21 (3,423 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Eddie, they didn't say that the machine WILL need more repairs. They said only in the case that the machine did need repeated repairs for this same problem would a replacement be considered.
Dave, if you haven't been using "he" detergent, that could be a contributing factor to the bearing failure. Too much suds can cause bearings to fail on a front-loader prematurely, perhaps even on a commercial grade Speed Queen.
I'm glad you managed to get SQ to arrange for repairs. It's understandable that the servicer would prefer to perform such a big job at their shop, although it's an inconvenience for you. I hope your machine won't need further repairs for many years to come.
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Post# 797276 , Reply# 51   12/4/2014 at 00:37 (3,423 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)   |   | |
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Post# 797285 , Reply# 52   12/4/2014 at 01:31 (3,423 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Rich, my interpretation is that SQ isn't charging Dave for the repairs. I think it was a hypothetical statement by the servicer about the retail cost of repairs being higher than what Dave paid for the machine new. My guess is that it's still cheaper for SQ to absorb the cost of their own parts and reimburse the servicer's cost for labor than to provide Dave with a new machine. If the machine was out of warranty, that would be another story with Dave looking at sky high parts and labor, and a new machine would be the cheaper way to go.
Does anyone know if SQ FL machines found in laundromats instruct to use only "he" detergent? If not, I would think they'd be replacing a lot of bearings on them. Either that, or SQ builds their FL machines in a way that higher sudsing detergents don't present a negative impact on the bearings like they do on the more flimsy FL machines produced by other manufacturers. |
Post# 797291 , Reply# 53   12/4/2014 at 02:17 (3,423 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Ralph, my bad. I misunderstood the part about repeat repairs needed. I do agree that this kind of major repair would be best done in the shop. However, I don't think that it would be unreasonable for the service provider to pick up the machine and return it after the repair is complete, free of charge. Speed Queen should aborb this expense. I know that Speed Queen makes a good product, I'm just surprised that Dave had to jump thru so many hoops to get the warranty work authorized. But I guess if you aren't dealing with the dealer that made the original sale it is more problematic. I also understand that the number of loads that Dave does on a regular basis is really a lot more than the normal user would be doing. But I imagine thats why he bought a Speed Queen to begin with, because of their reputation for longivity. I am glad that the repairs will be made under the warranty. After all, when you spend the amount that Speed Queen charges you expect good service.
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Post# 797295 , Reply# 55   12/4/2014 at 03:29 (3,423 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 797315 , Reply# 56   12/4/2014 at 08:09 (3,423 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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just a few thoughts.....
if this is a FLer...that means theres a possibility that two sets could stack in the place of traditional setups...that would allow two washers and dryers.... and all the more reason, even if space it tight...to go with a portable washer, something like an Avanti or MagicChef version, small enough to hide in a closet, yet can still wash a 12lb load, may not be the best for the amount you are washing, but better than nothing, it would get you through....look at the cost you have spent at the Laundromat, this would have paid for itself by now....and you always have a backup, or a machine for smaller quick loads.... surprised too that the servicer doesn't offer a loaner machine while unit is being serviced.......I must have lucked out, had my Neptune dryer serviced by a place I didn't buy the machine from, and they lent me another dryer to use until they got mine fixed...note: it was out of warranty and they still did this.... |
Post# 797438 , Reply# 58   12/4/2014 at 22:39 (3,422 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Post# 797494 , Reply# 59   12/5/2014 at 07:19 (3,422 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Hi David, glad the washer is getting fixed, Some Thoughts.
The use of HE or Non-HE detergents will not affect seal-bearing life on ANY FL washer. On FL washers bearings only fail 99 44/100% of the time because the main shaft water seal allows moisture to get past the seal and ruin the bearings. The life of bearings in FL washers has nothing to due with a tilted or non-tilted tub, size of the bearings etc. The thing that will most often ruin the seal in a FL washer is a hard mineral build-up from minerals in the seal area [ this is primarily caused by using too little detergent, cheap detergent, excessive rinsing especially in hard water areas ] Detergents have important lubricating properties that protect washer parts [ like water seals ] and if things are rinsed too much it is hard on ANY washing machine ever built. Main water seals can also be affected by heavy build ups of molds and excessive use of fabric softener [ if fabric softeners are used in an automatic washer it is imperative when clothing is being washed to use plenty of detergent and hottest water possible ]. Other reasons for moldy build-ups are too little detergent, too cool wash temperatures, and a lack of chlorine bleach use. David I would ask to see the main trunnion assembly after they fix your washer, this is the huge cast aluminum part that the bearings and water seal are pressed into. By looking at this part you maybe able to gain an idea why the water seal failed. It is highly likely that usage situations at your house caused this early seal failure and if not addressed you may have the same problem again in a few years. This washer is designed to be repaired in the home and if the repair company wants to do it in the shop the transportation should be at their expense. The main exception to this is if there is insufficient room to perform this repair in your home. SQ FL washers are the easiest FL washers that we have ever installed main bearings in. It takes one person less than 2 hours to complete the repair and the retail cost should be less than $500 in our experience as a SQ authorized servicing dealer. Hopefully your washer will be back and running soon, at your usage level you should be able to keep this washer running for a decade or longer. I do highly endorse the idea that you have some type of back-up washer, but when you consider how much this washer has already saved you on water, detergent, and energy costs from heating water and drying the clothing it would make no sense to go back to a conventional TL washer. John L. |
Post# 797505 , Reply# 60   12/5/2014 at 08:33 (3,422 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 797713 , Reply# 62   12/6/2014 at 13:40 (3,421 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 797736 , Reply# 63   12/6/2014 at 15:35 (3,421 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 797743 , Reply# 64   12/6/2014 at 16:29 (3,421 days old) by gusherb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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IMO if a shop is that reluctant to service the machine I'd be leery about the work even getting done correctly. Hope it all goes well though. |
Post# 798013 , Reply# 67   12/7/2014 at 23:57 (3,419 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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If Speed Queen can't do any better than this to honor their warranty, I'd say fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. Unless they either give you a new machine, or get your's repaired at zero cost to you, plus provide a loaner, I would NOT buy another of their products. But thats just me. I don't have a clue what you should get instead, based upon the many loads that you wash on a regular basis I wish you good luck! I suggest you call Speed Queen again and go up the chain of command, and don't give up until you get what you want and deserve.
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Post# 798017 , Reply# 68   12/8/2014 at 00:04 (3,419 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 798054 , Reply# 70   12/8/2014 at 05:40 (3,419 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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And e-mails also are considered proof in court because they are date and time stamped too. A lot of doctors have taken to answering their patients out of office questions via e-mail just because it prevents malpractice suits. |
Post# 798066 , Reply# 71   12/8/2014 at 06:32 (3,419 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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"I tried washing a light load of sheets/pillow cases on the delicate cycle and the machine worked flawlessly. So since the load made no noise I ran a 2nd load on perm press cycle again no noise and cycle went flawlessly so I tried a load on regular and I thought a train wreck had gone off in the laundry room."
Still not convinced you have a bearing failure. Seems to me you should be able to spin the tub by hand and diagnose failed bearings. You wouldn't get flawless spinning at medium speed. Thoughts? Malcolm |
Post# 798067 , Reply# 72   12/8/2014 at 06:34 (3,419 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 798078 , Reply# 73   12/8/2014 at 07:26 (3,419 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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If it is working on the PP cycle, get that laundry done. You could just have a motor with bad bearings, sometimes a bad motor bearing will only make much noise at top speed which only happens on normal cycle near the end of the final spin period.
The possible problem with the shop making the repairs is it sounds like they mostly do commercial repair work. Often these shops do not have good techs on the road and they are used to taking everything back to the shop for repairs. You really need a good tech to come to your home and figure out what is wrong before the washer is moved. |
Post# 798124 , Reply# 74   12/8/2014 at 10:52 (3,419 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 798144 , Reply# 76   12/8/2014 at 13:04 (3,419 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 798180 , Reply# 77   12/8/2014 at 17:03 (3,419 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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It sounds like you are finally on your way! Even if hell froze over for you I would never call back the company that wanted to charge you for machine transport to the shop. BTW, use the word transmission. Some people get offended if you call it a "tranny". |
Post# 798186 , Reply# 78   12/8/2014 at 17:55 (3,419 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 798195 , Reply# 79   12/8/2014 at 19:00 (3,418 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Post# 798196 , Reply# 80   12/8/2014 at 19:02 (3,418 days old) by davidblazor (Astoria Oregon)   |   | |
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I am sorry if I offended anyone I was using the term the guy from SQ used. |
Post# 798219 , Reply# 81   12/8/2014 at 22:02 (3,418 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 798225 , Reply# 82   12/8/2014 at 23:03 (3,418 days old) by Gusherb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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"tranny" would only be offensive when used in reference to a transexual. Now excuse me while I go smoke a fag, and have a gay old time dreaming about Speed Queens. |
Post# 798226 , Reply# 83   12/8/2014 at 23:06 (3,418 days old) by mjg0619 (Scranton, Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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As a fag smoking queen with a need for speed, whose car has a lightning fast tranny, I take absolutely no offense to that!
(New poster over here, usually spend my time in the land of vacuum cleaners!)
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Post# 798269 , Reply# 84   12/9/2014 at 10:52 (3,418 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Post# 798305 , Reply# 86   12/9/2014 at 17:43 (3,418 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 798332 , Reply# 87   12/9/2014 at 21:35 (3,417 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 798411 , Reply# 89   12/10/2014 at 11:59 (3,417 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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SOooo, Mr original poster, David:
Have you heard anything else from Alliance regarding the Horizontal axis front loading clothes washing machine with mechanical dial? Have they decided to do an residential repair, or are they still wanting the aforementioned machine transported by truck or vehicle to their repair facility. We are still curious if your problem is a Motor or tub bearing, or as others have mentioned one of the drive components. |
Post# 798416 , Reply# 90   12/10/2014 at 12:12 (3,417 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 798445 , Reply# 92   12/10/2014 at 15:52 (3,417 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 798528 , Reply# 94   12/11/2014 at 03:11 (3,416 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 798646 , Reply# 95   12/11/2014 at 19:39 (3,415 days old) by davidblazor (Astoria Oregon)   |   | |
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I will try to see if they will take some pics or video of the repairs so I can upload them here. Repairs are scheduled for Monday morning around 9. I hope it doesn't take long the laundry is really pilling up around here. |
Post# 798659 , Reply# 96   12/11/2014 at 21:31 (3,415 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 798831 , Reply# 98   12/13/2014 at 00:29 (3,414 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)   |   | |
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Post# 798851 , Reply# 99   12/13/2014 at 09:18 (3,414 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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Speed Queens are very good machines.......
BUT...with the issues you are having with children, and all things in general...ALL the more reason to have spares and a backup of some sort... way before I found this site, or had upwards of ten kids, I had two washers/dryers, extra fridge and freezer, portable dishwasher.... it only took once for the washer to break down, two weeks for repair, to open my eyes to have a backup..... after this is all said and done, I would be searching and looking for a way to make this happen, SO that you are not put in this position again.....this should be a lesson well learned.....if not, your only doomed to repeat it again someday.... even a wringer or twin tub would work for you at this point... I wonder if we could send Tide loads-of-hope truck to give Dave a hand... I agree....this would be a good time for a wash-in |
Post# 799165 , Reply# 100   12/15/2014 at 06:37 (3,412 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 799216 , Reply# 102   12/15/2014 at 14:00 (3,412 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Well, SQ needs to decide quickly. Keep the pressure on them.
This is also a very poor reflection on the supposed commercial build quality of SQ front loaders.
At this point, I'd say you need to find yourself a good old fashioned extra-large capacity Maytag from the '70s or '80s. No matter what you threw at it, you'd have a very tough time making one of those machines fail as catastrophically as the SQ did. |
Post# 799218 , Reply# 103   12/15/2014 at 14:18 (3,412 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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A new Speed Queen front loader may cost you $400.00 more now, but I doubt that it costs SQ that much more. I'd get back on the phone and speak with the highest level person I could, explain what the tech told you and demand a new machine NOW. With what you have already spent on laundromat charges you probably coulld have bought a used Maytag as Ralph suggested. Make sure that SQ understands that the reason you bought their product in the first place was for the reputation of reliability and excellent warranty and you feel that you may have been mislead.
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Post# 799219 , Reply# 104   12/15/2014 at 14:19 (3,412 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)   |   | |
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I saw many of these in the Laundromats in the 80's in that sundown orange color. If I could get my hands on one of those would it last for very long? |
Post# 799223 , Reply# 105   12/15/2014 at 14:36 (3,412 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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A Maytag from that same period would be easier to find, would without question last longer than the solid tub SQ, and would be easier to find parts for if needed.
If the washer pictured in the link is an extra-large capacity, it could be a $25 solution. CLICK HERE TO GO TO rp2813's LINK on Portland Craigslist |
Post# 799224 , Reply# 106   12/15/2014 at 14:42 (3,412 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Well if you went to stick with speed queen then may i recommend going vintage but if you went to stick with a front load you could always try to fine a good vintage frontload white westinghouse washer unless you decide to go back to a good old fashion top load but its your choice but sometime vintage can last longer than today modern day washer as newer models you might fine yourself with dumb down water tempatures like hot being warm water warm water being cool water ect while with a vintage machine you get true water tempatures. Credit to some of the original members for some of the pictures i am using
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Post# 799248 , Reply# 107   12/15/2014 at 16:18 (3,412 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 799288 , Reply# 109   12/15/2014 at 19:10 (3,411 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)   |   | |
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Post# 799295 , Reply# 110   12/15/2014 at 19:38 (3,411 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Oh Boy, did the tech actually write up an estimate? the machine either has a bad bearing and support [ this is the same thing ] or it has a broken spider on the back of the tub, it is not likely to have both problems. There is no such thing as a drive mechanism balance mechanism on this machine, LOL.
It only takes 30 minutes to completely take this machine apart and it takes less than two hours to dissemble the washer and replace either or both of the possible problem parts that are causing the noise and problem you are describing. If the repair tech came out to your house and did not take the washer apart to see what was actually broken HOW IS HE POSSIBLY going to order parts and fix the washer ? At this point I would be spitting nails, this was a totally wasted service call. If you have to get a good used Top Load washer in the mean time a Whirlpool built Direct Drive Washer from approximately 1990-2010 is light years better than a 1980-1996 Maytag washer in both performance and reliability. |
Post# 799323 , Reply# 112   12/15/2014 at 22:30 (3,411 days old) by gusherb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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So does that mean they performed the necessary repairs? and the answer to your question would usually be no. |
Post# 799381 , Reply# 114   12/16/2014 at 08:33 (3,411 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 799392 , Reply# 115   12/16/2014 at 11:26 (3,411 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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Post# 799651 , Reply# 119   12/18/2014 at 03:39 (3,409 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 799695 , Reply# 120   12/18/2014 at 15:19 (3,409 days old) by gusherb (Chicago/NWI)   |   | |
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With his figure of 25-30 cycles per week, and taking a number in between that like 28, and given he's had it almost two years that would bring you near 3,000 cycles. |
Post# 800832 , Reply# 123   12/25/2014 at 11:41 (3,402 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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cleanguy take a look at the new electronic control speed queen washers and dryers the warrenty is 5 years and for true lasting washers nothing beats a vintage model from 1950 to the 1999
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Post# 800840 , Reply# 125   12/25/2014 at 13:23 (3,402 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Not even some small hotels do as much laundry as you do. Even 5 loads per day is a ton of laundry. |
Post# 801047 , Reply# 126   12/27/2014 at 09:50 (3,400 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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