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Post# 797915   12/7/2014 at 16:58 (3,398 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        

Hey everybody. I have a 2000 GE post filter-flo laundry pair. It is a two-speed washer with three spin speed combinations. I remember we got it from Lacks furniture when they were in business. It was a Friday when we got it. On Saturday afternoon, after my dad installed the set, we did our first wash. When the washer would start agitating, it would start shaking. It was on normal/fast spin speed. I was expecting the washer to shake during spin, but it did it in the wash/rinse cycles. It also did that sawing noise too. I didn't expect my set to outlast my old filter-flo but it did. Did the post filter-flo washers use the same transmission oil as the filter-flo models, or use a different one? Please let me know. Thank you. Happy holidays.




Post# 798038 , Reply# 1   12/8/2014 at 03:51 (3,397 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        

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I am going to be honest, not meaning to offend you :)

These are the WORST washers ever built on the planet hands down. These machines were designed around landlords and contractors looking for something cheap just to say "hey, my new property has a washer" yet even then reliability was none existent. Simply put: after GE discontinued making filter flos they stopped making laundry equipment so to say.

It is normal for the entire outer tub to shack. I have seen that break the snubber straps causing the tub to hit the wall in spin. The suspension joints at the top do dry out causing them to make noise in agitation or off balanced spinning. And yes, the transmission is very different: It is smaller, agitation is very short strokes at a fast pass, not really effective or gentle IMO. Also, just a heads up inner tub becomes a biological green house because of the square supports that retain lint and water.


Best piece of advice is ditch it for another washer. It will not last long. Those machines when new went only a few years at most. Granted in the mid 2000s it appears they made a few improvements but still, unless you have on of the new hydro waves the entire line between 1997 and 2008 must be avoided.

If looking for used look for Whirlpool, Kenmore, pre 1995 GE, or Maytag. If looking for a new washer go Speed Queen.


Post# 798055 , Reply# 2   12/8/2014 at 05:43 (3,397 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Even worse than the dreaded SAV Amana tag machines? Wow!

Post# 798062 , Reply# 3   12/8/2014 at 06:04 (3,397 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Yes :(

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Even worse than Amana Tag (at least it was gentler, cleaning better)and the WCI Frigidaire.

Post# 798065 , Reply# 4   12/8/2014 at 06:12 (3,397 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
@ GELaundry4ever

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Is this the noise in question?






Post# 798234 , Reply# 5   12/9/2014 at 02:45 (3,396 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Back in 2004, I bought a TOL GE washer/dryer set.. After about 7 years of use, the washer started making this noise, but only occasionally. I could have lubricated the tub suspension, but between that and using 180 Litres of water per load and ripping my sheets, I decided it was better to be replaced with a front loader. So I did.

I think that the old washer still had a lot of life left in it.. Little did I know that 2004 was the last model year that GE made full fill wash/rinse top loading machines!

Some landlord picked it up for a song and dance. It's probably still chugging and creaking away in someones basement right now...


Post# 798318 , Reply# 6   12/9/2014 at 19:36 (3,396 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Post Filter-Flow GE Top Loading Washers

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No matter how you cut it [ other than losing the useful Mini-Basket feature ] the all new new GE TLWs were superior in EVERY performance aspect compared to the FF washers.

They eliminated the problems of scum, lint and sand and grit being redeposited on clean clothing, a problem that plagued FF washers from the start.

They spun faster and extracted more water all WITHOUT vibrating across the floor.

They cleaned better and turned over big loads better, WITHOUT clothing damage.

They used less water with no sacrifice in cleaning and rinsing ability.


They DID HAVE many durability problems, including an almost 100% transmission failure rate in the first 10 years of use.

John L.



Post# 798335 , Reply# 7   12/9/2014 at 21:58 (3,396 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
@combo52

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I take you have never seen the honey comb like reinforcements on the inner tub. Those became awful in no time. Id see grey scrud floating around in the rinse water, cant compare to a FF. The straight van agitators just beat clothes with little turn over compared to the ramps. These machines granted didn't vibrate under normal spin, but if you had a bad imbalance these would self destruct: the outer tub would begin resonating for lack of better words by banging itself into the cabinet. Yes the happened to me with the outer tub shattering. The timer runs with the lid open, something not seen on the FFs. I can go on and on.

Post# 798361 , Reply# 8   12/10/2014 at 00:32 (3,396 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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I've never heard of GE's front access washers being anything but trouble prone. Entirely too much cheap plastic in places where a higher grade material should be used. And as someone already stated, the agitation is too sporadic and choppy, and very noisy thanks to the cheap plastic "bell" that the agitator mounts on. My grandparents have one of the "higher end" electronic models from around 2003-2004, and it has already gone through three agitator hubs and a replacement agitator itself. Because the agitator doesn't mount very tightly even with a brand new hub and agitator, the fabric softener dispenser is worthless because it shakes nearly all the liquid out before the wash is done. The rubber suspension bands have been replaced almost yearly, and the machine has such a grindy-bangy nature that it sounds like a busy iron-worker's shop when it's running.

The build up in the outer tub is another issue entirely. I myself have removed the basket to find a ring of horrible smelling scum on the back of the basket and inside the tub. This happens even with my grandmother's habit of setting the water level higher than needed so that the clothes can freely move, and after the cycle is complete, running a second wash and rinse cycle without detergent to make sure everything is flushed clean. She hasn't used fabric softener much at all since she had the Lady Kenmore. I'm still trying to convince my granddad to junk it and get a decent machine, but he wants it to completely fail before replacing it. From the sounds of the transmission, I'm betting it won't be much longer.


Post# 798368 , Reply# 9   12/10/2014 at 02:54 (3,395 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Several years ago at a trailer park on the way to the transmitter plant-A GE Post FF washer was hauled from the park to the side of the road for hopeful trash pickup.The thing sat there for several days-then it was smashed-don't know if from vandals or someone hitting it with their truck.Then the pieces including what remained to the tubs-was pushed further onto the road shoulder and woods.Then the Alamo roadside mower had a shot at it-what remained was piles of plastic schapnel.Then someone picked up the crunched,flattened cabinet.Probably a scrapper.I have seen these machines in the swap shops here-often they get discarded.And a freind of mine had one-lasted only a couple years.Was in Richmond,VA.We took the GE carcuss to the dump there and placed it in front of the dumps dozer-landfill compactor.We watched for awhile.We wanted to see the machine "GET IT"for flooding my freinds floor and leaving plastic bits to add to the mess.The dozer driver never showed up.Too bad.

Post# 798476 , Reply# 10   12/10/2014 at 19:24 (3,395 days old) by estesguy (kansas)        
Enough is enough....

Alright, enough is enough. I have owned my fair share of dud washers. In 1983, I bought a Maytag that must have barely passed vibration tests at the factory. I couldn't convince the mom and pop store that sold it to me to replace the tub under warranty, so I just lived with it. It barely stayed put on a joist floor, and when I moved to a house with a truss floor it moved 8" from the wall everytime. So out it went and was replaced in 2000 by an Amana "commercial quality" machine, that worked fine until the tub seal went out at 6 years of age and took the motor with it in a smoke filled room. I bought an electronic GE in 2006 (I have 2 laundry's) and then a 2007 GE WPRE8100 hydrowave machine. The 2006 is now at my mom's, and I really love the hydrowave. Neither one of these machines has given me a minutes worth of trouble. I have purchased parts off Ebay when the price is good and set them aside for any possible replacement issues, as I want this machine to last me for a long time. It has a full fill wash and rinse, with an adjustable fill valve if needed. The mode shifter that replaced the old style transmission is solid metal, no plastic parts, agitation is accomplished from a 3 phase reversing motor, which is whisper quiet. It has the traditional agitator, and YES I would run from any infusor model. They are horrible. But any GE hydrowave you can find from the mid to late 2000's that is NON-ENERGY STAR model, are decent machines, and very easy to work on.

Post# 798530 , Reply# 11   12/11/2014 at 03:19 (3,394 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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My sister had one and the transmission went out, blew oil everywhere. I got her a trusty old Maytag that looked like it was never used. She gave me her GE and I refurbished it....I was surprised at how dirty that inner tub was in those supports...blah, that was nasty!

Post# 798537 , Reply# 12   12/11/2014 at 04:46 (3,394 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I don't have much memory about these machines. Growing up we always had Whirlpool or Kenmore washers and they seemed to never break down. I do remember as a young adult in the early 90's, noticing that the GE washers had bigger capacity than others. I have a 2014 GE HydroWave and have zero complaints about it. Hopefully will be durable in the long run!

Post# 798567 , Reply# 13   12/11/2014 at 09:02 (3,394 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)        
Hydrowave

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Those are a major improvement. Not having a transmission really helps, and those are a light quitter plus cleaning better. Gentler too. Hydrowaves also seem less trouble prone.

Post# 798711 , Reply# 14   12/12/2014 at 08:47 (3,393 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Yes you are right Chetlaham! They seem very simple with fewer parts. I had reservations about getting the plastic tub but it seems very durable. Something just drew me to these machines over others. I think maybe because it reminded me more of an old school washer. I would have loved a SQ set but I would have literally spent twice as much. I really have no doubts that my GE set will last me for many years.

Post# 798825 , Reply# 15   12/12/2014 at 23:05 (3,393 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
hydrowave

i have a hydrowave from 2009 and it has been a good performer,but has been developing more and more lash in the"splutch" and once the timer jammed causing the washer to agitate constantly for ~2 hours-hot motor could be smelt around the lid opening and that load produced a lot of lint! :)I ran the timer on a different cycle and it has not jammed since.In normal agitation times,the motor reversing back and forth to provide agitation motion,doesn't really get all that hot-thanks to the inverer drive.Inverter also lets motor rev up to ~10,000 RPM for spin.

Post# 799010 , Reply# 16   12/14/2014 at 09:01 (3,391 days old) by washman (o)        
My plastic GE

lasted 14 years before the tub seal went south ultimately taking the transmission with it.

It did the job, actually cleaned pretty well but it was noisy and every agitation had the chunka chunka sound, even on delicate.

The repair guy said it was fixable but when he quoted me the price I backed out and got the SQ and never looked back.

I cannot say for sure if the outer plastic tub had mold or buildup as I never took it apart to investigate. I got my money's worth I suppose but I would not buy one again, especially after reading all the less than stellar reviews of the new machines.


Post# 799016 , Reply# 17   12/14/2014 at 09:25 (3,391 days old) by estesguy (kansas)        
cfz2882 splutch ???

I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say "splutch"? The mode shifter is all metal. But the agitator coupling is nylon plastic. Just a little bit of wear on this part would allow noticeable play in the agitator. This is less than a $10 part, and can be replaced easily by removing one center bolt that holds it on. I suggest you give that a try and see what happens.

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Post# 808810 , Reply# 18   2/11/2015 at 15:39 (3,332 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE post-filter-flo

Chetlaham, Mine is going 15 years old along with the maching dryer. I respect your opinion. They seem to be heavy duty if you use it correctly. The washer does have cycle lights and a push to start button. It does get the clothes just as clean, if not better than the filter-flo.

Post# 808957 , Reply# 19   2/12/2015 at 18:12 (3,331 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE washer noise

When I first got the washer and matching dryer in 2000, it would make a "sawing" noise during agitation. 5 cycles later, it would stop doing that noise.

Post# 809181 , Reply# 20   2/13/2015 at 22:41 (3,330 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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"Run Toto!!!!! Run!!!!

He got away!!! He got away!!!"

Hate GE washers, dryers, and refrigerators.
I wonder what is going to happen to them since they too are now owned by Electrolux????!!!


Post# 809511 , Reply# 21   2/15/2015 at 21:42 (3,328 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
Excuse me?

I think GE washers, dryers and dishwashers would be ruined! Excuse me? What's this about GE refrigerators?

Post# 814541 , Reply# 22   3/17/2015 at 21:02 (3,298 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
noise in question

Yes it was.

Post# 814622 , Reply# 23   3/18/2015 at 17:35 (3,297 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
one of the last filter flo washer with its mini basket

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Here is one of the last true filter flo washer with its mini basket because if you have notice once ge change there model they eliminated the mini basket

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Post# 815640 , Reply# 24   3/25/2015 at 00:52 (3,291 days old) by tecnopolis (Ocala/Dunnellon, Florida 34481)        

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Our 04 GE washer started having that wig-wag sound everytime the tub moved. I tried lubricating the tops of the suspension struts to no avail. Then for some reason I Had the front off and noticed the noise was comming from the bottoms of the struts. So I tilted the washer back and shot the struts from the bottom with white lithium spray. Noise gone!!!

Post# 815762 , Reply# 25   3/25/2015 at 16:06 (3,290 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        
Laundromat-

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I can only speak to GE refrigerators, specifically the Cafe Series..which i think appears, to my eyes, the best out there. Appearances only, i shopped it and it was just too pricey but otherwise fantastic.
That said i have a general bias against GE owing to the cheapo, chinsy, products sold to landlords or house flippers for their properties. These were all i saw or heard about until the Cafe Series opened my eyes. Vintage is a whole nother ball of wax, i'm referencing late 80's to later 000's.
Link is to Reviewed.com coverage of a Cafe Series refrigerator.


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This post was last edited 03/25/2015 at 19:33
Post# 816173 , Reply# 26   3/27/2015 at 22:58 (3,288 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)        

I heard GE had a Filter Flo labeled as a GE Profile. Never seen a photo of one though, did they look like the set shown above?

Post# 824397 , Reply# 27   5/20/2015 at 22:08 (3,234 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE post filter-flo still rnning

Mine is still going 15 years old now. They seem to be built tough when used properly. Yes, mine has knobs that don't turn when the cycle is running. It has a hefty motor and gearbox. It hardly ever failed. A few leaks here and there. It does slow down the agitation speed for the last few minutes of agitation during wash. It also starts fast spin on slow speed. I believe it has precision care technology. It has a push to start button also.

Post# 824398 , Reply# 28   5/20/2015 at 22:10 (3,234 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
correction.

that should be still running.

Post# 1061580 , Reply# 29   2/26/2020 at 12:30 (1,491 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
GE transmission

I've seen the GE transmissions and they were tiny. It seems the only part that lasted was the motor which was supposedly heavy-duty. Luckily, it didn't leak heavy oil everywhere unlike some of the people who commented on this designd Never mind if I revive this post. I have a Kenmore Elite by lg electric pair. I did expect the GE to cave in on itself. Yes, I did have a filter-flo set which I miss dearly.


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