Thread Number: 57810
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
TOMORROWS WASHERS CLEANING W/BEADS? |
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Post# 802590 , Reply# 1   1/6/2015 at 12:04 (3,390 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Actually could be seen protothype sheets since 12 years on the internet about these..
Earliest washing machines were made emulating a washboard effect.... This post was last edited 01/06/2015 at 13:29 |
Post# 802717 , Reply# 2   1/6/2015 at 23:55 (3,389 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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That looks like a load of shit to me. Quite simply you can't replace a fluid with a solid and an surfactants with inert bits of plastic and expect the same result. The ONLY advantage I could see would be increased mechanical action within the wash cylinder. However if the drum is as full as it should be the point is probably moot.
The other thing which is rarely considered when something like this comes up is the environmental impact of producing and maintaining a machine that is exponentially more complex than a standard washer extractor. WK78 |
Post# 803052 , Reply# 3   1/9/2015 at 05:43 (3,387 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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In the late 50s, the dream was ultrasonic cleaning. Other than jewelry cleaners, where's that? Of course, development could have been squelched by detergent manufacturers, just like electric car R&D was squelched by all of the petroleum-related interests. |
Post# 803054 , Reply# 4   1/9/2015 at 06:30 (3,387 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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If I know correctly... The prinicniple in ultrasonic cleaning is the vibration , first you have two distinctions to make absorbent and not absorbent materials, then hard and not. Ultrasonic cleaning finds it's use typically for hard surfaces and non dirt absorbers, so supertficial dirt that only will and can be superficial, not absorbed and part of it, then you have to consider another aspect, some materials even though being hard not absorbent will vanify the sonic action as they will absorbe the sonic and will not vibrate....and AFAIK it never had a large application outside of metals fot that very reason. As I was saying the sonic cleaning could mostly and largely take application in the metal cleaning because metals were about the only material that could satisfactorily take advantage of this "force", the principle as I was saying is the sonic vibration, these vibrations will do about nothing to a cloth and it's dirt, because clothes (both wet or dry) absorbe and vanify in first the vibration, for second water soaked clothes are almost like being water themselves. and for last but not least important the most of dirts absorbe vibrations and won't vibrate the same... you have to e find a way to "vibrate" either the dirt or the item.... All but a professional machine is throwing money.....
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Post# 803280 , Reply# 5   1/10/2015 at 15:48 (3,386 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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Wasn't this bead thing tried a few years ago and turned out to be a failure? Perhaps it was some company selling washer beads and not an equipment manufacturer, but whatever, it didn't work. Just imagine beads cleaning dirty underwear...Oh.... yah. |
Post# 803292 , Reply# 6   1/10/2015 at 16:32 (3,386 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Post# 803298 , Reply# 7   1/10/2015 at 18:12 (3,386 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 803319 , Reply# 8   1/10/2015 at 19:32 (3,386 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Speaking of Fruit and Veggie washer, why haven't we seen a dishwasher with a short unheated program designed for washing fruits and veggies?
Back on topic, I don't expect the bead technology to ever make it to the domestic market. Simply too complicated and I expect the little pellets are probably a toxic risk to small children and pets. Malcolm |
Post# 803341 , Reply# 9   1/10/2015 at 22:21 (3,385 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Ultrasonic vegetables cleaners are sold in asia from awhile, but they never exited that market much.... As I was saying ultrasonic in metal cleaning is big because you also get a vibrating effect, in vegetable cleaning you get just plain cavitation cleaning...which is good to some extent but not totally... It's fair saying ultrasonic machines became "okay" for the vegetables surfaces cuz it's easy to clean off their typical "dirt" and anyway just not the ones covered totally in mud but anyway pre-rinsed/washed, and in Asia (Japan) since they just have a thing for making of everything electronic whether it being actually worth it and useful or not..... I don't see them being okay for certain kinds of stuff like mushrooms though...but that's a guess due to the fact that many are so soft in texture. This post was last edited 01/10/2015 at 23:28 |
Post# 803751 , Reply# 10   1/13/2015 at 03:15 (3,383 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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This has been on-going for years. See link to a thread from 2008.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO AquaCycle's LINK |
Post# 856143 , Reply# 11   12/11/2015 at 12:47 (3,051 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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I believe in the beads. All industries love format changes. Once they have sold everybody He machines something else will be needed to make them obsolete, this looks perfect. The dry cleaner guy seems to be sold on it...can't be worse than some of the poorly implemented water saving retro fits that have been marketed for years now. |