Thread Number: 57929
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Video of a 1957 Philco-Bendix Duomatic! |
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Post# 803814   1/13/2015 at 11:11 (3,390 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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This stunning machine belongs to John (Gyromatic) in the Minneapolis/St Paul area. I shot video while I was visiting last May and finally got around to editing it all together last weekend.
By the way, this is an extremely rare gas model! I believe there are only two gas models knows to exist and I'm pretty confident this the only one still being used weekly to do laundry!
Enjoy! Kevin
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Post# 803889 , Reply# 1   1/13/2015 at 16:51 (3,389 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 803923 , Reply# 2   1/13/2015 at 19:12 (3,389 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )   |   | |
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kevin!!!
thank you for posting. i didn't think i was going to sit through the whole video, but i did. and i enjoyed watching it. and you know me, i love the windowed doors so you can see the action as it's happening. thank you again for posting that GREAT & entertaining video. you did a fantastic job of recording this. :o) |
Post# 803959 , Reply# 3   1/13/2015 at 22:18 (3,389 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Kevin, Thanks so much for taking the time to post your video! What an awesome machine! Brent |
Post# 803970 , Reply# 4   1/13/2015 at 23:18 (3,389 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Kevin, Thank You! This vid is really something to see! Bendix had some excellent engineering. |
Post# 803972 , Reply# 5   1/13/2015 at 23:30 (3,389 days old) by d-jones (Western Pennsylvania (Pittsburgh Area))   |   | |
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It was really interesting to watch. One really has to marvel at the skill and time that must have gone into the meticulous restoration of this machine. If it were possible to go back in time to 1957 I doubt it would look much nicer than it does now. This post was last edited 01/14/2015 at 00:51 |
Post# 803974 , Reply# 6   1/13/2015 at 23:46 (3,389 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.)   |   | |
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Post# 803977 , Reply# 7   1/14/2015 at 00:21 (3,389 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Post# 803984 , Reply# 8   1/14/2015 at 02:45 (3,389 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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it shows all the cycle points very well. That was the first of the "Philco-Bendix" Duomatics. Philco had just bought out Bendix Home Appliances and nothing was moved to Philadelphia yet.
The pause after the final rinse was patented by Bendix and was called the "anti-pasting" cycle to prevent clothes from sticking to the drum in dry after the final high speed spin.
John does such a great job , his chrome gleams.
That model has the earlier "whine" transmission that Jeff & I like, in 1958 they recut the gears and made a much quieter transmission. My 1956 screams like this machine , my 1958 makes little sound.
I think this full cabinet model was the best W/D ever made. |
Post# 804005 , Reply# 9   1/14/2015 at 07:42 (3,389 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Wow John I would never get tired of watching that machine, as usual your restoration has this machine in BETTER than NEW condition.
I am so glad that Tom and I have three great examples of these 36" Bendix and Philco Bendix combos in the museum collection, and can't wait for John to help me get our 58 gas model running. These were the first combos the world ever saw and diffidently the BEST combos of the 1950s, the only other combo that was also great was the completely redesigned 29" wide WP-KM combos, built from 61-71. Whirlpool was the ONLY US company that completely redesigned their combos and partly by the advantage of designing something 10 years later the 29" WP built combos are still the best overall combos to me, but that is like comparing a 1961 Chrysler to a 1952 Chrysler, not a fair comparison. Great job with the video Kevin, did you also do one of Johns 69 KM gas combo ?. John L. |
Post# 804040 , Reply# 10   1/14/2015 at 10:37 (3,389 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Thanks everyone, great to hear you have enjoyed the video!
Major kudos have to go out to John (gyromatic) for the meticulous restoration he's done on all SIX of the 36" Duomatics he has in his basement! They are flawless and 100% functional!
Yes I also shot his '69 Lady Kenmore Gas Combo. I posted it last June, but here it is again.
Also, the link below is the thread John posted info about all six of his 36" Duomatics.
Kevin CLICK HERE TO GO TO RevvinKevin's LINK This post was last edited 01/14/2015 at 12:04 |
Post# 804044 , Reply# 11   1/14/2015 at 10:59 (3,389 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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Although this Duomatic is an earlier model than the one I grew up with (like the one Robert has in his collection - a 1959 model, I think), it still makes all the same sounds I remember - especially the low speed spin shifting to the high speed spin. I spent many an hour watching that machine in utter fascination (my parents should have sent me to the shrink then!). To my dismay, the Duomatic was dumped in 1963 or so for a Whirlpool top-loader and matching dryer (Imperial models). While I could still watch the wash action, I could only peek under the lid to see the spin before the lid switch stopped it. I wasn't quite clever enough to figure out how to bypass the lid switch back then!
The Duomatic in the video is absolutely beautifully restored - like new! Video VERY well done with the captions, just the right amount of time for each action, etc. Thanks SO much for posting it and I hope someone does a video of the 1959 (whatever Robert's is) some day soon so I can REALLY relive my demented childhood. BTW - the link in Kevin's email to a collection of Duomatics brings up only a blank page. |
Post# 804046 , Reply# 12   1/14/2015 at 11:10 (3,389 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 804050 , Reply# 13   1/14/2015 at 11:21 (3,389 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 804054 , Reply# 14   1/14/2015 at 11:59 (3,389 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Thank you Bill, Robert & Pete, I'm very happy to hear you enjoyed them!
OK the other link should work now, I corrected it.
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Post# 804059 , Reply# 15   1/14/2015 at 12:24 (3,389 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 804060 , Reply# 16   1/14/2015 at 12:26 (3,389 days old) by wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 804061 , Reply# 17   1/14/2015 at 12:29 (3,389 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 804118 , Reply# 18   1/14/2015 at 17:34 (3,388 days old) by Gyromatic (St. Paul MN.)   |   | |
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Glad you could take a recording of all the combos when you were over.Keep in mind that the fan is on all the time when the machine is running.The only time the air enters the tub is when the dampers open at the start of the drying cycle. |
Post# 804142 , Reply# 20   1/14/2015 at 19:15 (3,388 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 804145 , Reply# 21   1/14/2015 at 19:29 (3,388 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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..another gorgeous machine that has the bomb of a panel - in fact, it reminds me of a bomber throttle cluster in the cockpit. Well done, John and thanks a lot for sharing your video Kevin.
If I had the wherewithall and I don't…I'd replicate this, just like people replicate cars in scale. Now there's a 3D printer challenge in the future. Maybe I'll live long enough to recreate my own favorite appliances. And…this combo reminds me that I'd be tempted to turn on all the washer lights in my collection(which wouldn't be much right now), sit in the dark and listen to the light years of American appliance history….how do you guys sleep owning shooting star examples like this? Phil |
Post# 804148 , Reply# 22   1/14/2015 at 20:07 (3,388 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 804149 , Reply# 23   1/14/2015 at 20:14 (3,388 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 804187 , Reply# 24   1/14/2015 at 22:54 (3,388 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Are your gas Duomatic's standing pilots or automatic pilots? Also just curious as to is it a Modulating burner or does it cycle on and off? I bet you have so much fun on wash day!!!! Beautiful Machines!! Thanks Brent |
Post# 804258 , Reply# 25   1/15/2015 at 08:02 (3,388 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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Yes John thank You! for having your beautiful machines ready for Kevin to film. Your machines are beautiful. |
Post# 804261 , Reply# 26   1/15/2015 at 08:11 (3,388 days old) by alr2903 (TN)   |   | |
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I see where the water enters the kenmore, what clock number at the door does the combo fill in. Are all fills sprays or is water entering different areas? |
Post# 804365 , Reply# 28   1/15/2015 at 20:14 (3,387 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Thanks John for the information on the Bendix pilot. Do you turn it off when it is not in use? |
Post# 804375 , Reply# 29   1/15/2015 at 22:06 (3,387 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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I can answer that one.... yes he does! He turns off the gas (and water?) when not in use!
Each time we went to run the machines, he had to turn on the gas (water too? Yeah I think he turned off the water too.)
The water fill on the Lady Kenmore combo goes in through hoses at the back of the blower housing. I'm told the idea of this was to keep the blower house clear of excess lint.
See pic #1 below, I (poorly) traced the red line below the inlet house. Pic #2 shows one of the two fill points on the blower housing. This is my '69 Lady Kenmore Combo when John Lefever was inspecting it during my "Big Spring" April 2012 Wash-In.
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Post# 804381 , Reply# 30   1/15/2015 at 23:41 (3,387 days old) by A440 ()   |   | |
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Thanks Kevin for the information. Love the pictures! So CLEAN! What a play pin! Brent |
Post# 804424 , Reply# 31   1/16/2015 at 10:15 (3,387 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )   |   | |
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Post# 804443 , Reply# 32   1/16/2015 at 12:16 (3,387 days old) by electron1100 (England)   |   | |
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Post# 804602 , Reply# 34   1/17/2015 at 15:23 (3,385 days old) by StrongEnough78 (California)   |   | |
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Post# 804612 , Reply# 35   1/17/2015 at 16:35 (3,385 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 804625 , Reply# 36   1/17/2015 at 19:22 (3,385 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 804782 , Reply# 37   1/18/2015 at 17:52 (3,384 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Has almost no proven advantage in either washers or dryers, I have seen plenty of loads of clothing balled and knotted in dryers that reverse as well as tangled balls of clothing in Duet FL washers, the only reason that FL washers reverse is that it is so easy to do with modern designs and it does help get the clothing wet with low water level machines.
For the most part these old Bendix and Kenmore combos with thier large tubs had almost no probling with tangling or cleaning. |
Post# 804789 , Reply# 38   1/18/2015 at 18:35 (3,384 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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