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Post# 806080   1/26/2015 at 08:59 (3,349 days old) by mrzach2010 ()        

Anyone ever seen one of these? I got this from Ebay a little while ago. I love it! Even has a fluff filter which is a god send. Its a french machine but easy to translate.

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Post# 806084 , Reply# 1   1/26/2015 at 10:02 (3,349 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Very cool! How long does a full cycle take? I assume its 240v. Does it use reg euro socket? If so, how'd you convert? Vented? Ventless?

 

I seem to remember that most of the English vocab usually found on washer control panels consists of Romance borrowings.  I don't remember having any difficulty reading Italian and Portuguese language machines. In fact, the only non-Romance laundry-related word I can think of at the moment is the word 'wash' itself.

 

If you can tear yourself away from the machine for a second, could you do us a favour?

Please post the exact model number so we can geek out over specs? 

 

Thanks,

 

Jim 


Post# 806099 , Reply# 2   1/26/2015 at 11:16 (3,349 days old) by mrzach2010 ()        

Hi Jim. Model number is WTD1376F. A full cycle depends on the load size as it cuts some off for smaller loads. The longest is cottons 95 that takes 2 hours 20. There is a 30 min quick wash and the synthetics 40 is only 1 hour 40. It washes great considering it only has the one paddle which is quite flat.
It is a condenser drier. I can dry most things on half heat apart from towels. It is 240v and bought a euro adaptor from a homeware shop so I could use it.I had never heard of a top loading washer dryer until I saw this.


Post# 806122 , Reply# 3   1/26/2015 at 13:05 (3,349 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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They have been around quite a long time. In the past Bosch, Siemens, AEG and many other models had them. They are very popular in France, especially in Paris, where a lot of people live in "bijou" apartments. You will find more if you do a search on "lavante sechante chargement dessus".

My favourite one is the Miele W489, sold in the late seventies or early eighties.



Post# 806130 , Reply# 4   1/26/2015 at 14:23 (3,349 days old) by mrzach2010 ()        

Hey thanks for that, very interesting. Having a top loader is the only way we can have a slimline dishwasher also.

Post# 806156 , Reply# 5   1/26/2015 at 17:41 (3,348 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Does it have a fan to dry? I suppose so, since it has a lint filter. I had a chance to use a TL washer/dryer before, but it was an absolutely PITA when it came to drying clothes. It had no fan and just baked clothes by using the heating element underneath the drum. Besides, it used a lot of water for the drying cycle.






Post# 806245 , Reply# 6   1/27/2015 at 09:05 (3,348 days old) by iej (.... )        

Any French top loader dryer I've seen in modern times anyway has pretty much exactly the same layout as a normal dryer just turned sideways with a hatch in the drum.

I've used one that was a full sensor-condensor dryer and behaved pretty much exactly like any other one.

The vented ones are similar to normal vented dryers, the filter is usually inside the drum, similar to some front-loader types that had the filter at the back of the drum (e.g. all the old Hoover Dryers and some US models)

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The only thing I'd wonder about with those type of machines is does the door hatch ever fail?
It would seem a bit of a mess if the drum were to suddenly open in the middle of a cycle dropping items into the outer tub in a washing machine.

I'd assume they'd just drop into the casing of the dryer as there's no outer tub.

Logixx : are you sure the dryer you used didn't just have a failed blower? drying the clothes with direct heat would seem pretty slow and dangerous!


Post# 806275 , Reply# 7   1/27/2015 at 11:15 (3,348 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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No, the dryer didn't have a fan. It had a large heating element under the drum (if you imagine the drum to be a clock, the element would have reached from 4 to 8 o' clock). Drying was very slow and after the "cool down", the drum was still too hot to touch...


Post# 806423 , Reply# 8   1/28/2015 at 07:34 (3,347 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

So rather than dry with a fan, it bakes the clothes dry. Does that set the wrinkles in the fabric?

Post# 806424 , Reply# 9   1/28/2015 at 07:48 (3,347 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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This machine has a fan AFAIK.

Other combo's had no fans, like the American GE combo's IIRC

AFAIK there was never a topload dryer (not a combo) that didn't have a fan.

I guess some topload combos didn't have a fan because there was simply no room more for it. These topload combos are pretty compact machines considering what they can do.


Post# 806426 , Reply# 10   1/28/2015 at 07:52 (3,347 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
BakeOMatic...

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Many of the early washer dryers had element only drying, some had three positioned around the drum, as many where slower spin speeds, like the Fagor top loaders then as the load heated with such excess of steam creasing tended not to occur unless a wrong setting was used - BUT the cottons setting was Hot Hot, I remember the early 80`s AEG washer dryers where nicknamed BakeOMatics and could cook a cake some where that hot, the trick was to remove clothing asap otherwise creasing could occur if you had dried a mixed load on a cottons cycle!!

Post# 806451 , Reply# 11   1/28/2015 at 10:44 (3,347 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
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Yes, it must have baked the clothes good. Even when drying a small load, the outside of the load would have normally been dry, while the center remained damp. Not to mention the weird smell.


Post# 806497 , Reply# 12   1/28/2015 at 16:28 (3,347 days old) by iej (.... )        

Doesn't sound like a very good or clothes-friendly design! You'd be scraping synthetics off the drum walls!

Post# 806500 , Reply# 13   1/28/2015 at 17:00 (3,347 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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They worked very well on the right setting according to the fabric you where drying, any melted moments where usually operator error, and they certainly softened your clothes with all that steam....

Post# 806573 , Reply# 14   1/29/2015 at 08:17 (3,346 days old) by mrzach2010 ()        

Yes my Brandt has a fan. From what I can see it blows into the drum from the right side centre of the drum, it is like the top of a pepper pot. The hot cycle does get very hot, I only damp dry jeans on it and fully dry towels, everything else gets a half heat as thats enough. Can only dry 3kg at a time, but does us ok. The fluff filter is the blue thing you can see on the top right above the drum. It pulls out to clean. I said I would never have a cheaper washer dryer front loader again because of the fluff build up around the door gasket, it was a nightmare! But this filter is full of fluff everytime with very little in the machine.


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