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Post# 808483   2/9/2015 at 17:04 (3,357 days old) by mikael3 (Atlanta)        

Is there some significance to the designation “Highlander” in the Maytag hierarchy, on models from the late ’50s and early ’60s? 

 

On the one hand, it looks like the model numbers get higher as the model gets fancier.  But then there’s an add-on designation like “Custom De Luxe” with the higher numbers, and “Super Highlander” or just “Highlander” with the lower numbers.  Do the numbers and names work in tandem, or do the names link to specific features?   Or what?

 

Even more puzzling—why “Highlander”?  Are these models particularly good at washing kilts?

 

I did try to find the answer by searching the site, but it looks like everyone who posts already knows the answer! 





Post# 808485 , Reply# 1   2/9/2015 at 17:09 (3,357 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        
I don't know this for sure, but....

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Total guess here, but 'Highlander' would make one think of the Scottish who were once stereotypically portrayed as being thrifty.  As the Highlanders were not the top of the line, I guess the name was meant to denote good value for the money.  Given how well Maytags of this era were built, they were right on the money, in my opinion!


Post# 808499 , Reply# 2   2/9/2015 at 18:23 (3,357 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Far as I could see, pretty much all the insides of every one was the same as far as washing, build as the better ones. The back console was made to look cheaper to make it more attractive to a thrifty buyer I think and they were priced less.

Post# 808506 , Reply# 3   2/9/2015 at 18:39 (3,357 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Paul

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You hit the nail squarely on the head - good value for the money.  No frills.

 

lawrence


Post# 808514 , Reply# 4   2/9/2015 at 19:09 (3,357 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The cabinet was different also with that chrome band hiding the screws that held the top on and which could slice fingers and hands as well as any knife if you were not careful. One thing about Maytag was that if you were not paying top dollar, they reminded you of the fact every time you looked at el cheapo. Of course, there were people who would rather have a no-feature Maytag than a nicer automatic for the same money by another manufacturer.

Post# 808547 , Reply# 5   2/9/2015 at 21:16 (3,357 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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My memory is a bit fuzzy, but the original highlander, the 123, came out in very late 1956. In 1957 the model 124 came out, and eventually the 125 and 126. One of the original ads for the 123 highlander featured some young, corn-fed Iowan girls wearing kilts. :)

These models were replaced by the highlander A100/A200 and super highlander A300/A500 I'm 1961. The 100/200 had the shorty stamped control panel while the 300/500 had the taller panel.

During this time the 142 transitioned to the A700 and the 160 to the A900.

Ben


Post# 808563 , Reply# 6   2/9/2015 at 23:40 (3,357 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I think they were rebaged changing Highlander to FabricMatic. A single speed washer with agtate/soak in place of a slower speed to go easier on gentler fabrics available in normal or large capacity models.

Post# 808589 , Reply# 7   2/10/2015 at 07:09 (3,356 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Most

Early ones had the standard agitator like the wringers had.I remember seeing these at several homes in my hometown, like all Maytags they ran forever, as im probably the all time number one Maytag hater...I will say no more..LOL

Post# 808601 , Reply# 8   2/10/2015 at 08:48 (3,356 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

Some Highlanders are timed-fill machines. I have one out in the garage that I should rescue some day. I notice it's sort of built backwards, with the motor at the right-rear.

As for the Highlander name and thrifty Scotsman stereotype, the little economy flathead six in the AMC Rambler American was marketed as the "Super Flying Scot". Also Studebaker came out with a very bare-bones car in 1957 called the "Scotsman".

A Quote from famous Scotsman, Sir Harry Lauder:
"When I want to fill my fountain pen, I always go to the bank where I keep my over-draft, they have a better quality ink than you get at the post office."

Ken D.



Post# 808602 , Reply# 9   2/10/2015 at 09:20 (3,356 days old) by mikael3 (Atlanta)        

Oh Hans, please say more.  I find your opinions to be extremely helpful, whether positive or negative.  I have made purchases based on your advice!!  (AND I have used your excellent recipes!!)


Post# 808603 , Reply# 10   2/10/2015 at 09:38 (3,356 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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For Hans, if it doesn't say Norge, then it isn't up to snuff.  innocent

 

A good point was brought up about the mechanism arrangement of the Highlanders.  The cabinets are physically different than their higher end counterparts.  There is no removable front panel per say, instead the cabinet is reversed from the traditional Maytag front panel machines, with the back acting as the removable panel.  Thus, the Motor and Pump are accessible from the rear.  Having worked on a few of these, this arrangement is somewhat cumbersome, especially getting sud saver hoses aligned with the panel. 

 

The tops are also different than the TOL models, with the earlier Highlanders having actual chrome hinges for the lid.  Most Highlanders also have the wringer style agitator, with the 300 and 500 having the more traditional filter-column agitator.  There are timed filled models (123/124/A100) which are also fun to play around with.

 

The Highlander distinction was eliminated in January of 1966 when Maytag went to the completely redesigned cabinet and base-plate that was shared from the A106 up through the A906.

 

Ben

 

 


Post# 808605 , Reply# 11   2/10/2015 at 09:54 (3,356 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Interesting...

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I have always associated the term highlander with the central chrome dome that would rise out of the agitator as the water level came up.

Learn something new every day!

Malcolm


Post# 808607 , Reply# 12   2/10/2015 at 10:01 (3,356 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
AMP vs. Helical

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Malcom, you bring up a great point!  What's also very interesting about the 123 Highlander is that it was the FIRST Helical drive Maytag, as the 141 was not released until mid year 1957.  This means that they were producing both the AMP (center float agitator) 140 TOL washer along side the timed-fill Helical drive 123 Highlander.  They also nixed the lower end AMP drive 121P during this time.

 

GM did something very similar with the Pulsamatics being released in 1955 as the lower end washer option, cutting their teeth on it for 4 years before they revised the drive for the Pulsamatic and introduced the Multimatic in 1959 (although we can debate in a new thread if GM was really ready to make the transition during that time, LOL).

 

Ben


Post# 808688 , Reply# 13   2/10/2015 at 20:17 (3,356 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Truthfully..

While I think a Norge will out wash darn near anything, a Norge was NOISY, rough on your clothes and did as a rule, require more repairs...Maytags were very gentle , quiet and ran forever...they also wont handle nearly as big a load as many other washers...get out of balance very easy.....Maytags were a great machine for a retired couple, or say a banker or minister...for a factory worker with 10 kids with greasy and grimy clothes..GIT A NORGE, Philco, Kelvinator or Frigidaire...or of course a Laundromat...My opinions of Maytags came from 2 experiences, My Aunt Jean had a 67 606 for 33 years, it never was worked on but twice, and ran every day...but I remember as a small child figuring out how to watch it wash..and how disappointed it was after watching our 69 WCDAN Frigidaire and our neighbors 63 Lady Kenmore...then 1986 the Frigidaire died and Mother bought a Maytag..it was nothing but trouble from day one...the biggest thing was it hardly ever washed a load without getting out of balance and cutting off It didn't stay around but about 2 years until my Mother said, Go uptown and get me something that will wash...So I got a Filter Flow that was great..

Post# 808752 , Reply# 14   2/11/2015 at 08:52 (3,355 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        
I suppose everyone has different experiences.

My 1972 A606 rarely goes out of balance, and then only on loads that are "suspect". I often work on greasy diesel trucks at work and I get awesome cleaning results. It handles heavy Carhartt winter jackets well too.

Dad was a GE appliance serviceman so we had Filter-Flo washers growing up. It seems to me that dad replaced quite a few transmissions when they started leaving oil spots on mom's nursing uniforms.


Post# 808764 , Reply# 15   2/11/2015 at 10:04 (3,355 days old) by mikael3 (Atlanta)        

I love your line, Hans—“a machine for a retired couple, or say a banker or minister.”  That’s some brilliant damning with faint praise!!

 

I have noticed that Maytags don’t get a lot of love on AW.  They have plenty of fans, to be sure; but it seems like the endorsement is a little meek, like it’s all about the dependability, ease of use, and accessibility of parts, not so much about how it compares to the wash & rinse capabilities of other models.  As one poster put it, Maytag is “sort of dull but acceptable”.  Ouch!

 

It seems like the votes for best washing action and rinsing keep rolling in for the GE Filter-Flo and the Frigidaires.  And I’ve learned that Unimatics and Filtramatics are the best pair for washing and drying… towels.  Who knew?

 

Poor little Maytag.  My great-aunt had a white set of Maytags from the late ’60s.  I could kick myself for not remembering exactly which model, but based on pictures here and my faulty memory, they were probably 606s.  I’ve never been the laundress in my family, so I didn’t use them much; but my then-partner, now-husband, used them a lot, and he really liked them.

 

After all the good luck I’ve had equipping my vintage kitchen (a Frigidaire range (my beloved RT-38 in Sherwood Green) and all sorts of Sunbeam and Oster small appliances), I’ve decided to have a go at the laundryroom.  Right away, I’m sensing that I might not have such an easy time there as I did in the kitchen.  Vintage W&Ds for daily drivers might be a bit of a stretch.  But my plan is not to toss my modern stuff, in case I need to switch something all of a sudden!

 


Post# 808799 , Reply# 16   2/11/2015 at 14:20 (3,355 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I use

A 1973 Lady Kenmore dryer and a 1985 Kenmore 70 washer....Everyday,sometimes many times a day...in 5 years I have replaced the washer belt and timer knob, and the heating element in the dryer...they just keep running right along!

Post# 808858 , Reply# 17   2/11/2015 at 21:27 (3,355 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Maytag Highlanders

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Were built and sold because they were cheaper to build, this helped Maytag sell Automatic Washers to more customers using their excessive mark-up price fixing polices that MT adopted many years earlier. And I can tell you first hand after struggling with the one piece back panel and difficult to remove top assembly of several hundred of these machines just to do simple repairs to the inlet valve, motor rollers, mineral build-up on the fill inlet, etc etc , I think is the major reason I quickly developed a dislike for the Highlander Maytags.


Post# 808888 , Reply# 18   2/12/2015 at 06:32 (3,354 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Ken, the washing ability of your 06 Maytag is superior to that of the Highlander machines we are discussing. They had the high fin Gyrator whereas your machine has the Power Fin agitator which gives better turnover because of the shape of the fins and you have the larger tub also. The high fins on the old gyrators were made for the wide tubs of the wringer washers and did not function the same in the narrow tubs of the automatics.

The centering springs in the early machines were WEAK! I remember Highlanders at the coin laundry would have a pretty well centered tub when they were empty, but by the time they filled and started agitating, the tub looked like it was headed for a Westinghouse tilt tub commercial, leaning waaay over to the side. I wonder how far the tub would have tipped if the cabinet was not in place. It just reeked of cheapness to me. John said the centering springs were beefed up once or twice so there is less propensity to go off balance.

A question: Was it only Maytag 4 vane agitators that caused the water to rock in the tub and eventually build up enough motion to slap the balance ring? I never noticed that with my KitchenAid washer with the 4 vane agitator, but can't think of any other automatic machine with a 4 vane agitator to compare with the Maytag. The water rocked in the Maytag conventional washers also and a slight overfilling and something like a shag rug could get water to slop out over the side in spite of in incurving top edge if the cover was off. As Hans said, Maytag was terribly disappointing in load movement through the water, but Maytag had a BS line to explain that: Maytag's agitation moved water through the clothes, not clothes through the water, except in their conventional washers with the wide tubs. Well, be that as it may, good washing requires that the clothes move from the no action top of the tub past the thrashing action in the bottom of the tub and back again for uniform cleaning. I noticed that Maytag owners used more bleach than owners of other brands. Maybe that was why.

The sliding motor mount and the low post drive meant that a Maytag would never hurt itself. The belt would slip and the motor mount would ride forward under heavy loads. Maytags with the high fin Gyrators were notorious for dragging the load from side to side rather than turning it over. John showed me a TOL Maytag with the white tub where the white top coat of porcelain had been rubbed off the tub in the zone opposite the lint filter agitator fins from the dragging of the load back and forth.

I have a time fill Highlander that was in like new shape when we found it, except for the transmission which involved having to replace the top part while keeping the bottom part because a short tub tranny from a new machine was too short for the old Highlander. When the motor went, we put in a new two speed motor with a toggle switch on the back of the control panel for two speed operation and we installed a 50 cycle pulley kit. I run it with a short black Power Fin and it washes clothes the way the Lord, if not Maytag, intended. The spin during drain builds speed so quickly that I had to use silicone seal to close the little splash return holes in the tub cover because water was being forced out of them, even though the tub spins in the opposite direction of the openings. The other thing that magnifies the water action in this machine is the design of the old Maytag tub with the large area at the bottom of the tub wall with no holes. In the 06 series, the holes go to the bottom of the tub, but in the old one, this solid area really forces the currents from the Power Fin UP to help promote great turnover instead of letting the water currents move into the outer tub. I know that was supposed to force water through the fabrics at the bottom of the tub in the 06 tub, but it is less dramatic.


Post# 808905 , Reply# 19   2/12/2015 at 09:27 (3,354 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        
It's getting tough to breathe in here..

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Post# 808906 , Reply# 20   2/12/2015 at 09:48 (3,354 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Tom's point about the very early suspensions is certainly spot on.  Maytag went through several revisions of the base/spring arrangement and placement up through the 06 series in 1966.  While the later 1961-1965 machines have a better suspension that the earlier helicals, all suspension issues were resolved with the 06 machines.  Depending on how the machine is loaded though places a pretty significant role in how well the machine will spin. 

 

My hunch is those early machines that suffered from porcelain lost had more to do with chronic overloading than an agitator design flaw.  The Power-Fin agitator was a vast improvement over the original agitator design, but it also masked overloading issues that otherwise would have continued to wear on the tubs on the later machines.

 

Ben



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