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Post# 810662   2/22/2015 at 16:44 (3,322 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        

Hi all!

About to settle on a home and the sellers also offered us their LG front load washer and dryer - WM2250CW & DLE2250W.

We've already purchased a new Speed Queen pair - but figured these were cheap and already hooked up... Plus - then we have the option of both a front loader and top loader...

However - I've not ever really had much to do with the new larger front load machines...

Does anyone have any knowledge - or even own these models who could tell me what they like/dislike about these particular models? Particularly - do they feel as though they use enough water?

Many thanks!


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Post# 810671 , Reply# 1   2/22/2015 at 18:09 (3,322 days old) by Labboy (SD, CA)        
Love our LG

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I have a similar model that I have been very happy with. However, mine has a heater. It washes great but you need a heater if you want a truly hot wash. It also rinses well and is very quiet.

Bob


Post# 810702 , Reply# 2   2/22/2015 at 22:42 (3,322 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Has no heater, I wouldn't want it.  Especially as cold as the water is there during the winter. 


Post# 810712 , Reply# 3   2/23/2015 at 01:14 (3,322 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Both my mum and my mother in law have an LG front load, my mums is the higher model than the MIL's and they both love them. MIL is used to top loaders but said this one does it much better, only problem is it doesn't flush out the dog fur very well.

I like LG front loaders and would consider one for my laundry but without a heater I don't know.

Hope your enjoying your new life over there :-D

Matt


Post# 810713 , Reply# 4   2/23/2015 at 01:46 (3,322 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        
Love mine LG's also

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I have the WM2050W(no heater also)wish mine did, but its not a deal breaker for me. I have had no problems and mine is going on 5yrs old this april.Yes, they do use plenty of water, the perm press uses more water in main wash and rinses, than the cotton/normal cycles but still uses enough to get the job done. There is a option on your machine, call "water plus" that adds alot more water in the wash and all the rinses. I do use that option with some loads.It helps!
use the highest spin speed, that the cycle being used will allow, and drying time won't be long at all.
I have no complaints on my set other than not having a heater on the washer. Love the dryer, quiet and fast.


Post# 810882 , Reply# 5   2/24/2015 at 05:48 (3,321 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I have four. Three front loaders and an awesome top loader. All LG and no drama. Great results, quiet, foolproof, and fun to watch. I am tempted to disasemble my 2277 and paint it turquoise with acrylic paint. I'm thinking of doing a mural of a surf wave curling in the front. On that, particular one, I increased its water level up the window a few inches. Makes it a lot more fun to watch sitting on my bench. Just like being in a laundromat. I'll bet you become partial to them once you use them. Throw your pillows on. You'll be impressed. I was.

Post# 810886 , Reply# 6   2/24/2015 at 06:43 (3,321 days old) by kimball455 (Cape May, NJ)        

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I have an LG front load, I will get the model and post. It has a heater. Really works well and handles bulky items nicely.

Post# 810901 , Reply# 7   2/24/2015 at 09:12 (3,320 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

These are good machines and do a wonderful job. Go for it!

Post# 810942 , Reply# 8   2/24/2015 at 15:26 (3,320 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)        
Love my LG machines

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I have the LG WM0642 and matching dryer similar to the photo. This is my second set--the first set stayed with the house we sold, so I bought a new set of the same model for the new house. That's a pretty good testimonial, I think.

I've never had an issue with cleaning performance, so *I* would judge the water to be sufficient in both volume and temperature. I only do one Hot load a week, the rest is either Warm or Cold. NB: on my model, it offers Cold and Tap Cold. Cold will blend in some hot water if needed to bring the temperature up a bit; Tap Cold is straight from the well (or the mains, if you have 'city' water).

Runs very quietly. Mine are in a laundry room at the foot of an open stairway with the main living area at the top of the stairs, and they are barely audible while running, even during the spin cycle. Absolutely no problem watching TV with the wash going.

FWIW, I have an aunt in the boonies of NW Ohio who recently bought a new LG pair for her new house and she loves them. I don't know what models she got, though.


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Post# 811390 , Reply# 9   2/26/2015 at 22:12 (3,318 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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My absolute favorite brand of current appliances!!! I have both top and front loading models that refuse to break down. I do at least two loads daily and the clothes get real clean. My new frig. Is made by them for Sears. Real quiet,fast ice freeze.

Post# 812096 , Reply# 10   3/3/2015 at 04:13 (3,314 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I wish LG still made those rear control front load washers. I just love the look of them.

Post# 812130 , Reply# 11   3/3/2015 at 09:43 (3,313 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)        

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Mark--
I didn't know this model had been discontinued...I got my current pair from Home Depot in December of 2009.

I also love the look of the rear-panel LGs, but the dispenser is really what tipped it for me (especially when I re-upped with a new pair when we moved). The pull-out dispenser drawers on the giant cubes (regardless of make) just don't seem that sturdy, and a little harder to work with. Having the dispenser built into the top with a flip-up door is just a bit more old-school quality feeling.

HUSH all you detractors reminding me that a '53 Bendix or what have you was all metal, not plastic. ;)



Post# 812138 , Reply# 12   3/3/2015 at 10:18 (3,313 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        
Brian,

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how right you are. When the frontline aspect of a device is chinsy feeling it sets the tone, and for me ruins the whole user experience...like a car with a flimsy squeaky door handle and crappy steering wheel.


Post# 812154 , Reply# 13   3/3/2015 at 12:20 (3,313 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)        
Stricklybojack,

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AMEN! I cringe when I hear/feel a new car door and/or handle that has that hollow, tinny sound like a '78 Mitsu-Plymouth Arrow. No different for appliances. I've been on the lookout for a hand mixer for a while now, but all I ever see in stores is so cheap and shoddy looking it looks like a child's toy--no matter if I'm in Sears or Williams-Sonoma. Guess I need to just scour the thrift shops and tag sales!

Post# 812256 , Reply# 14   3/4/2015 at 07:51 (3,312 days old) by Streakers (Columbus Ohio)        
Well thanks

folks!

I'm sure they'll be fun to play with for a while...

I note that some of you feel that these use 'enough' water... Does anyone know if it's possible to increase the fill and rinse water levels on these models? (Like you can adjust on a Speed Queen with the turn of a screw?) Or are they a fixed fill switch? I've only ever played around with a front loader once before (Bosch) and it was adjustable - but I had no idea what to do - there were I think three or four screws...

I wasn't aware this model didn't have a heater... That is disappointing... If I'd have known that - I probably wouldn't have purchased them... Oh well... Too late now! I believe the house is on gas hot water - so cheap enough anyway to still get a relatively hot wash... Maybe these will end up in the basement for the play room washer and dryer - and I'll put the Speed Queens upstairs...


Post# 812274 , Reply# 15   3/4/2015 at 09:50 (3,312 days old) by brib68 (Central Connecticut)        

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I don't think there is an adjustment for the water level (at least not for the consumer to do). The water level adjust itself automatically for the size of the load. Gentle and especially Hand Wash seem to give a bigger fill relative to the size of the load, which makes sense.

Post# 812278 , Reply# 16   3/4/2015 at 10:30 (3,312 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

These should have the Water Plus button. Gives just that extra bit of water needed.


Post# 812468 , Reply# 17   3/5/2015 at 18:04 (3,311 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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In another month when , hopefully, the snow melts off my cellar bulkhead, I am kissing my SQ washer happy trails and I am going to buy an LG front loader with TurboWash. I am still researching what model I want but it's not going to be the uber sized one. I will post pics once it happens.

Post# 812482 , Reply# 18   3/5/2015 at 19:44 (3,311 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
LG with Turbo wash

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Hi Mike

Not to upset the SQ fans, but I think you will love the LG Turbo Wash. I got model WM3570H recently and L-O-V-E it. It does an awesome job and has the recirculation during wash and an awesome spin-spray rinse. It has a nice solid feel to it and has the least frequent repair history for front loaders on the CR survey. I am happy with my choice and feel it is the best machine out there.

Rich


Post# 812492 , Reply# 19   3/5/2015 at 20:59 (3,311 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I watched a video of that very same model on YouTube and but was the default Cottons cycle that was something like 37 mins long. I was intrigued by the washing, the high speed spin, spray rinse during that first spin, deep rinse and then two spin spray rinses and final spin.
I am not in love with my SQ washer, I like it enough, but with our water rates going up and electricity to run the dryer, I need something that will perform better and is efficient with water. Plus I want a washer that will extract water better. I know some here will gasp at what I am saying, yet this is my experience and opinion. It ain't all that!


Post# 812512 , Reply# 20   3/6/2015 at 00:53 (3,311 days old) by A440 ()        
LG~

Great thread. 

I have to say that everyone I know that has an LG "Front Load" washer absolutely loves them.  Most of the people I know have the very first direct drives with the rear panel.  They would not get rid of it for anything.  I don't know anyone that has a top loader LG.

The LG Turbo Wash...this is awesome.   I just watched the video on Youtube.  It answers many of my "What If's" when I have watched my first generation HE3T wash. 

What I would love to see is a "full" load for me.  The load they washed was only a 1/4 of what I wash.  Always a full load....for the last 14 or so years in my HE3T.  Would love to see the LG deal with that.

Here is the video of the LG Turbo Wash if anyone did not see it.

Looks like an awesome washer.

B

 





Post# 812515 , Reply# 21   3/6/2015 at 01:56 (3,311 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Hey Brent,
I have four LG washers and one is their top loading 4.3 cu ft top loader ( WT1101CW ). I saw it at Smith's Trade a used furniture and appliance store. It was new/never used and the owner,Charlie Smith, gives me machines there he'll never touch that is one of them. I took it off the shipping pallet,turned it over on its side to remove tben noticed a piece of broken plastic off the pallet stuck in the motor plate. I removed it and it's worked flawlessly ever since. Its the absolute best,new top loading, washer I've ever had. I can wash our 9'X 18" runners, ten big blankets,king size bed sets, and watch as this washer takes over and gets everything cleaner and brighter smelling so nice and drying so fast. I highly recommend this affordable,nice ,hjge capacity washer to anyone who wants a nice machine for under $700. I saw this same model at Home Depot priced at $649. Better then Whirlpool,Maytag,GE,and Samsung and easy , user friendly controls. Extremely quiet too. I use it more then the front loading LGs and Mieles.
It has neat agitation movements and a recirculating spray. You may choose spray OR deep rinses and the 1100 RPM final spin can last as long as 23 minutes.
The pressure switch in all my front load LGs that determines the amount of water they use all have the screw to either increase by turning clockwise or decrease by turning counterclockwise. So,mine all fill all the way up to the base of the door handles. Water splashes with suds like waves on the coast and , like the 1101 top loader,it gets everything extremely clean. They spin 1400 RPMS and have steam options. Those are over two years old and not a second of issues. Great enough experiences with LG and their customer relations to become my absolute favorite current brand. Life is Good.


Post# 812518 , Reply# 22   3/6/2015 at 04:36 (3,311 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Thats the video I watched. Not a long wash cycle and on par with my top loader. Its a great selling tool to watch. Now the question I have is ...how well does the LG washer deal with lint and pet fur? I hang laundry out in the spring and summer and with my SQ washer there leaves alot to be desired at times. The Frigidaire built GE front loader does ok for linting and pet hair and I never get a residue on the clothes like I get with the SQ washer. And it will be nice to have a washer that extracts better. Now I have to double spin since the SQ washer takes its sweet time to get up to high spin...and thats with a new belt...by the time the final spin is over with, the load needs another spin. Once I do that, then the load feels acceptable to throw into the dryers.

Post# 812676 , Reply# 23   3/7/2015 at 00:12 (3,310 days old) by A440 ()        
Awesome Video!

I keep watching this video over and over and want to point out the spin rinses.  Although these are spin rinses this is still part of the wash cycle!   Although this is not a part of the wash cycle....this machine is still washing!  Spin rinse between the wash and first deep rinse.  And then another spin rinse after the fist rinse into final spin.  This is incredible!  It is still pulling the dirt or a better way to say "anything else" out of the clothes in the final spin. 

I think this is incredible!   This machine is doing a spin rinse at what appears to be over 1,200 RPM per minute.

When we think back to Robert's "Unimatic Creation"  most of his focus was on full tub rinse during the spins.  This is the same thing.

I think LG has hit a home run with this cycle sequence. 

I am very impressed!

Now if they would only build a Gas Combo!

Whirlpool....what's up?  Get with the game.

 




 

 




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Post# 812677 , Reply# 24   3/7/2015 at 00:49 (3,310 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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But what abut using fabric softner--the spin rinse after the first rinse.  Seems like it would flush out the softner. I think this cycle sequence occurs only when turbowash option is selected. I'd like to see how it handles all this with a FULL load. 


Post# 812713 , Reply# 25   3/7/2015 at 11:58 (3,309 days old) by A440 ()        
~Bob

I thought the same thing about the Fabric Softener and the last spray rinse....

I also would love to see this machine work with the loads I do.  (FULL loads)

B

 


Post# 812730 , Reply# 26   3/7/2015 at 13:59 (3,309 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Post-softener spray rinse

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I think a lot of top loaders do or did that as well. From what was said here, softener requires warm water to be removed from the clothes - a cold spray won't do too much "harm" to the softener coating.

 

I strongly suggest to watch Fernando's channel on YouTube. He has lots of videos of his 4.5 cu.ft LG TurboWash washer/dryer, showing the water levels and everything.


Post# 812913 , Reply# 27   3/8/2015 at 19:00 (3,308 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Tomorrow I am going out to get the 3570 LG washer. I found it on Sale for $835 and there is a couple of rebates on the washer. The SQ washer I am going to sell so hopefully I can get rid of it. There is nothing wrong with the washer, and I hate to part with it but my water and electric bill say otherwise. Plus performance wise and capacity will be better with the LG washer I think. The washer is highly rated in CU and the SQ washer...not so much.

Post# 812929 , Reply# 28   3/8/2015 at 19:42 (3,308 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mike yay!!  I know you're gonna be glad to have a FLer back.  I cannot wait to hear the results of you taking it through its paces.  I just wish it gradually heated up from warm to hot/or sanitary  and offer extra hot (sanitary) wash temp on other cycles other than the named cycle like my WP does.  FLers ROCK!!!!  I'll also be curious to see if you decide to use your smart phone to download additional cycles. 




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Post# 812969 , Reply# 29   3/8/2015 at 23:50 (3,308 days old) by A440 ()        
~ Mike

You are going to have so much fun Mike!

Can't wait to hear your reports on it's cleaning ability since you have had FL'ers in the past.

Sounds like an awesome price by the way.

Brent


Post# 812978 , Reply# 30   3/9/2015 at 03:04 (3,308 days old) by imperial70 (MA USA)        
Return of the front loader

Mike,

I knew you would do it someday.  I could tell you were on the fence. My speed queen has sat on the side lines since I put my GE PFWS4600L0WW into full service and I haven't looked back.  The heater was the clincher for me, especially this very cold winter. 

 

I have to think about selling my Queen too.  Just waiting for a clear path from the basement to the street for the buyer. :-)

 

 


Post# 813023 , Reply# 31   3/9/2015 at 09:50 (3,307 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I am making the right decision I think in retiring the SQ washer since our water bills have been horrid since we got it. It makes no sense that they want us to conserve, yet we have an abundant supply of water here in Mass. So they get people to conserve and lo and behold they are not making the same revenue that they were before, so they jack the rates up again. Its a vicious cycle. Plus with our electric rates, its been a painful winter.
The other thing is I want a washer that will hold a comforter easily. In the Frigidaire built GE that I have, I can put a comforter in it, but it wont move all that much since the drum is a tad smallish. It does fine with other loads, but large items and she chokes some. The SQ washer washing a comforter is a joke.


Post# 813029 , Reply# 32   3/9/2015 at 10:34 (3,307 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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My 2 cent on this i still think that a top load washer is a much better choice than any front loader thats why when the washer i have that is a duet front load breaks that i am going back to a topload washer

Post# 813225 , Reply# 33   3/10/2015 at 09:07 (3,306 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Not me Pierre

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My Duet will be 10 yrs old next month and I have LOVED it. The fact is, I really really want to try an LG FL washer next time, but I'm just so afraid because I read such mixed things about them. Some people on this forum LOVE them, but some HATE them. I have read that if you do buy one, good luck if you need repair because parts usually take weeks/months to get for the repair person to even fix them. I couldn't imagine if I had an LG washer waiting that long for it to be fixed. Can you imagine going to the laundromat for that long? I'd be so mad. But then again, things may have changed. I don't know.

Post# 813229 , Reply# 34   3/10/2015 at 09:56 (3,306 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Parts

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LG appliances are relatively new to the U.S. marketplace and I would suspect that as LG washers have gained popularity and are now also sold under the Kenmore brand that commonly replaced parts are also much more widespread. Maybe one of our repair guys can comment.

The CR customer survey shows LG as the brand least often needing repairs.


Post# 813230 , Reply# 35   3/10/2015 at 10:05 (3,306 days old) by A440 ()        
~ Agree with Rich

I agree with Rich as far as parts being available and interchangeable with the Sears Machines.

In fact when I had to replace the pump on my 14 year old HE3T the replacement part that was

recommended to me by Fox Appliance in Atlanta was a LG / Zenith built pump.  The motor was much

larger on the pump that it replaced.  I asked the parts guy at Fox Appliance if they get a lot of complaints

from LG and Samsung Customers about parts availability and his answer was no.  He said they either had in

stock most of the common parts or could order anything from either LG or Samsung.  He also stated that mostly

what is needed are door seals, water valves and electric drain pumps.  Common on any machine...


Post# 813373 , Reply# 36   3/11/2015 at 10:31 (3,305 days old) by jeff_adelphi (Adelphi, Maryland, USA)        
LG parts

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As an independent appliance servicer, LG will only sell me parts at retail prices. Tribles, my local parts supplier, can't get LG parts. Until this changes I will not be servicing any LG appliances, this includes LG made Kenmores. Jeff

Post# 813379 , Reply# 37   3/11/2015 at 11:00 (3,305 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I don't know -

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maybe things have changed with LG parts since a while ago? I remember when I first got my Duet, I frequented the laundry forums. And I definitely remember reading horror stories of posts of people that had bought LG washers that, when they needed repair, they had to wait weeks for the repair person to get the parts for their machine to be repaired. So I guess that image has stuck in my mind when I think of LG, even though this was probably around 2005 or 2006 (ish).....

Post# 813381 , Reply# 38   3/11/2015 at 11:05 (3,305 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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My Whirlpool (Bauknecht) HE3t will be 12 years old in a few months, and I love it too. When it comes time for a replacement, I am thinking of getting a Whirlpool. While I don't think the Whirlpools are as showy as the LGs, I do think that they do a good job, are well built, and have decent options. I don't know if LGs heat the water on as many cycles as the Whirlpool models can, and I find that is important to getting outstanding results in a FL washer.

Another things that is pointing me to Whirlpool is that it gets a 100 rating from HRC, and is made in the USA. LG gets a 0 rating from HRC, and they are made in Korea. I guess all those Made in America news reports about how purchasing US designed and manufactured products help our economy are starting to sink in. While it is not a eliminating factor for me, it definitely is a plus in the pro column, as is supporting companies that are LGBTQ inclusive.


Post# 813393 , Reply# 39   3/11/2015 at 12:06 (3,305 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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My Whirlpool (Bauknecht) HE3t will be 12 years old in a few months

 

Now that's good to hear! :-) And as far as heating the water goes: there's a poster on GardenWeb who kept track of how the individual cycles on his Kenmore functioned. He said that the Whitest Whites cycle on Hot never exceeded 105F. He even added that, if the initial temp was high enough, the heater wouldn't come on to reheat the water.


Post# 813394 , Reply# 40   3/11/2015 at 12:18 (3,305 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well I bit the bullet and bought the LG 3570 at Sears. The sales guy tried to get me to buy a Kenmore Elite but I said no since the reviews on the Sears site made me stay away from those models. I got it in white since it's going in the basement. I did buy the water hammer arresters to protect my pipes. Our water pressure here is very high and I don't want any issues with banging pipes.

Post# 813407 , Reply# 41   3/11/2015 at 13:26 (3,305 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
I don't want any issues with banging pipes.

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Why would "banging pipes" be more of an issue with an FL than a TL machine?   The water valves in an FL washer flow far less than a TL machine does.   If your pipes don't "bang" now with your SQ, they won't bang with an FL.... IMHO.

 

Kevin


Post# 813412 , Reply# 42   3/11/2015 at 13:56 (3,305 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Pipe banging is not a matter of flow, but more a matter when valves open/close.
A SpeedQueen TL does 2 continous fills, which equal opening 2 times and closing 2 times, plus a nother time for the spray rinse.
A FL generally needs to open its valves 2-15 times for one fill. So if it bangs, it bangs more frequently.
But these water hammer arrestors seem to work fine and are pretty cheap.


Post# 813416 , Reply# 43   3/11/2015 at 14:19 (3,305 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Congrats!

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Congrats on your new LG 3570, Mike. I think you'll like it a lot. I love mine.

Post# 813421 , Reply# 44   3/11/2015 at 15:23 (3,305 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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If you watch the video, one can hear the water valves opening and closing in rapid fire. Once in awhile with my machines, the pipes will hammer a little bit, not much but just enough to let me know it's going to be a slight problem . The ones I got go right behind the washer and the hoses connect to it. They were $10 a piece and I figured $20 spent here may save me more money in the long run. I also bought new hoses since the sales guy told me that hoses don't come with the LGs...but on the LG website it says it does have the fill hoses. So I will see when the washer arrives if it has them or not. I am prepared just in case.

Post# 813424 , Reply# 45   3/11/2015 at 16:15 (3,305 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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That makes perfect sense Mike thanks for explaining.   BTW, CONGRATS on the new LG!   My friend Rich (golittlesport) has the same thing and I have to say, from what little I've experienced with it, looks like it does a great job.


That's the one thing I don't understand about how the LG's operate, when the cycle is first started, it pulses the water valve a 1/4 second like 5 -7 times before letting it flow.  That just baffles me.

 

Kevin 


Post# 813457 , Reply# 46   3/11/2015 at 18:58 (3,305 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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That pulsing is an LG exclusive "feature". My theory is that these short bursts of water are supposed to flush away detergent better than just one continues stream.





Post# 813462 , Reply# 47   3/11/2015 at 19:12 (3,305 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Water Hammer

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I had that problem with my lg set. In the six months I had them. All toilets had to have valves changed and on tub faucet cartridge too. Lg needs to eliminate the "feature", IMO

Malcolm


Post# 813502 , Reply# 48   3/11/2015 at 21:07 (3,305 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Malcolm that's exactly what I want to avoid happening here. I am as prepared as I can be I think.

Post# 813510 , Reply# 49   3/11/2015 at 21:55 (3,305 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

I have noticed with our new whirlpool duet, water hammer is highest during the final rinse. Infact when ever it stops filling and your in the bathroom near the toilet,you can hear the fill valve make a "creaking" noise. However i did notice that on the older washer when there were rubber hoses, this didn't happen as harshly.

Post# 813573 , Reply# 50   3/12/2015 at 09:06 (3,304 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Duet - same here

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I hear the water pipes hammer but from the LG video's I've seen, the Duet's (at least mine) don't nearly do the water on/off each fill as the LG's do. I know the next washer I buy when my Duet ever dies, I will be getting the water hammer thingy's.

Post# 813585 , Reply# 51   3/12/2015 at 11:16 (3,304 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA)        

It's been reported that LG's bursty filling doesn't work with tankless water heaters, because the bursts aren't long enough to activate the heater.

Post# 813587 , Reply# 52   3/12/2015 at 11:41 (3,304 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I have a regular gas fired tank water heater. Those tankless ones are useless here in the winter since our water gets so cold and it would be just luke warm I think coming from a tankless water heater. Summer it would work fine.
I get the new washer tomorrrow and I have plenty of laundry to put it thru the paces. Its funny how I feel like a kid waiting for Xmas, it cant get here fast enough. LOL


Post# 813591 , Reply# 53   3/12/2015 at 11:59 (3,304 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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Mike I'm sure you will be quite happy with the new LG!

 

I did a large load in Rich's 3570 to really test the load capacity, since he said it was extremely large.   It consisted of FIVE King size sheets, TWO Queen size sheets and FIVE king size pillow cases.   The 3570 easily handled this load with no issues at all!   Drying that load on the other hand.... we had to split it into two loads.

 

Kevin

 


Post# 813596 , Reply# 54   3/12/2015 at 13:06 (3,304 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I know my GE Profile dryer is a nice 7 cu ft of space, but I think that I will have to split loads between the two dryers, its either that or I get the uber sized LG dryer at 9 cu ft. But that said , thats a rather huge load! And thats the first time I have ever said that out of the bedroom...lol

Post# 813688 , Reply# 55   3/12/2015 at 20:00 (3,304 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I feel like a kid waiting for Xmas,

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Mike, that's why we're all here.  We have the same feelings with any appliance acquisition. 


Post# 813706 , Reply# 56   3/12/2015 at 23:35 (3,304 days old) by A440 ()        
~ Mike

Congratulations on your new washer!  Nice that you saved up wash!  Fun!

Will be fun to hear your reports!

Brent


Post# 813729 , Reply# 57   3/13/2015 at 04:24 (3,304 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

I was having problems with the on and off sequence with a Maytag top loader in the hair salon. You could hear it in the kitchen faucet next to the washer. Causing problems at that sink and all the other sinks. I had a small expansion tank put onto the water system this week and this has eliminated all hammer noises and problems with the sinks. I was also having problems when the water heaters shut off after a cycle, they would build up pressure in the system. This eliminated that problem. Total was under $300.00 and it takes care of the house and salon.

Jon


Post# 813766 , Reply# 58   3/13/2015 at 09:33 (3,303 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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It's here! Washing away on its maiden load.

Post# 813824 , Reply# 59   3/13/2015 at 16:10 (3,303 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Out of curiosity...

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What kind of reaction did you get from the delivery crew when they saw your collection of machines?

Malcolm


Post# 813832 , Reply# 60   3/13/2015 at 17:27 (3,303 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Actualy they were quite nice...I moved the SQ washer out and they put it where I wanted it and they took the front loader with the broken spider. They were in and out in 10 mins. I installed the washer. Odd thing though, the sales guy at Sears told me that the hoses didnt come with the washer, but they did. And the washer went on sale for $774 so I am going to Sears tomorrow with the print out from thier site showing the sale price. I am hoping to get the difference back. Plus this was free delivery too.
First impressions of this washer so far, I am impressed! This has to be by far the best washer I have ever used, better than the uber Miele I have in Maine. Cycles used so far have been Bright Whites, Cotton/Normal, Towels, and Bulky. The white load I washed first and I couldnt believe how white and bright they were and that was using Persil PowerPearls. Stains that I had on dish/tea towels were taken out and these were stains that had been there for quite awhile too. Skiddies, yeah a couple of underwear had em...gone, they look like new. The entire load was sparklin clean.
Towels cycle took over 1hour 20 to complete. That was because of the size load I had. Normally with the SQ washer I had to split the towels into two loads, not with this washer. Washer spins at 1300 rpms and it didnt take long in the Profile dryer.
The spin spray rinses are quite interesting. The washer gets up to high speed then the overhead atomizer jet goes to work. This washer is, by far, the best rinsing washer I have ever used to far. Clothes, towels, sheets have a sweet clean scent to them when they come out.
To compare this washer to the SQ washer, well its a huge upgrade thats for sure performance wise and capacity. I cannot believe how primitive the SQ washer is compared to the LG. This is my opinion and experience with both machines.


Post# 813834 , Reply# 61   3/13/2015 at 17:37 (3,303 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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your lucky sears in canada charge for delivery

Post# 813844 , Reply# 62   3/13/2015 at 18:25 (3,303 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mike, I'm thrilled you really liked it!!  Given Normal/Cotton is what the energy star rating is used for, did it use an acceptable amount of water? Other than Whites cycle, can you tell if the heater is used at all to maintain or slightly raise temperatures? 


Post# 813847 , Reply# 63   3/13/2015 at 18:32 (3,303 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Congrats on your new washer! I copied this from GardenWeb from a post by a guy who kdtrackekept track of what each cycle does.


"Other nice features are, holding the wash temperature and delay start simultaneously reads back the water temperature. Holding the spin speed and delay start simultaneously displays the spin speed or drum rotation if it's washing.Soil level and delay start simultaneously displays the water level or water frequency."


Post# 813848 , Reply# 64   3/13/2015 at 18:47 (3,303 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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This washer isnt shy about using water. The water levels are quite respectable. I used the Turbo Wash option with every cycle. The deep rinses use more water than the wash cycle. Also it seems that if i ask for a warm wash it gives it, and maintains the temps thru the cycle. Hot wash is hot and maintained it seems. Big difference from my Frigidaire GE front loader where the water temps cool down by the end of the wash cycle. I think the heater makes the difference aas well as the fan shaped jets. One thing of note is that this washer is quiet from the direct drive motor to the drain and recirc pumps. One thing I wonder though if the washer filters the water as it recirculates it. The darks load I washed looked like it had been washed in a Filter Flo washer..no cat hair or lint to be found. The dryer filters were no where near as full as they usually are with lint after a cycle. This might be a big plus since I hang laundry out in the spring and summertime. I will have to try those tricks to see if they work with my washer.

Post# 813851 , Reply# 65   3/13/2015 at 18:54 (3,303 days old) by appnut (TX)        
I will have to try those tricks to see if they work with

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This is quite well known in the laundrofile community.  I had been searching for a lady's post about that and couldn't find it.  Glad Alexander posted it.  You can keep track of wash water temps.  They will be shown in C and not F numbers. 


Post# 813874 , Reply# 66   3/13/2015 at 22:15 (3,303 days old) by A440 ()        

Mike sounds like you are having a lot of fun with your new LG!  It does sound like a great machine!

 

I am sure that Sears will give you the difference in price since it did go on sale.  If they give you any

lip about it tell them you will return this one then repurchase it.  I have had good results with Sears

giving me the sales price for up to 30 days. 

 

Interesting about your wondering if it filters the water with the turbo jets.  I have heard the same results

with pet hair and lint from other LG owners. 

 

 


Post# 813881 , Reply# 67   3/14/2015 at 00:02 (3,303 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Glad to hear you are pleased with your new LG. I sorta knew you would be. I too think this machine is a big step forward in performance and function.

I love the magnetic door catch that keeps the door slightly ajar for air while looking closed.

I only wish the instruction manual provided a description of each default cycle....minutes of wash, number and types of rinses, spin speed and length, etc. I'm trying to figure them out but find it difficult to sit and watch whole cycles and take notes.

I think I've figured out the default normal/turbo has a spray rinse, deep-fill rinse and then a final spray rinse. Surprisingly this one deep rinse with two sprays does an excellent job. And of course you can add up to three more deep rinses if needed.

Let me know what you find the cycles to be doing. I usually use normal, towels and whites. All with excellent results. I added "steam" to whites cycle to make it heat the water to extra hot with great results.

I love this machine!


Post# 813924 , Reply# 68   3/14/2015 at 10:36 (3,302 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Rich, I thought the same thing about the manual as well. They are very vague about cycles other than stating the obvious. My other half was moist when he saw that the washer can connect to the Internet, but I told him it will only work with Android devices, not Apple. I have an LG cell phone so I will see if I can use it to chat with the washer. The odd thing is that Apple's iTunes has an LG Smart Laundry app, but can't use it and the reviews say its not all that.
But I do wish they would break out what each cycle sequence does and features. Cycle times though would be kinda hard to pinpoint since it weighs the load and then sets the times. A part of me wants to wash everything in the house. I washed our comforter, sheets and mattress pad yesterday along with my normal wash day stuff. I have been eyeing my kitchen and den curtains that need a bath, not to mention the living room, dining , bedrooms and such curtains.
Now I am getting the itch for the dryer....lol


Post# 813931 , Reply# 69   3/14/2015 at 11:58 (3,302 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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In studying LG's manual, they just don't hold a candle to what Maytag & Whirlpool state in theirs.  If I remember correctly, very early models of LG FLers did have manuals which were a bit more descriptive. I was going to ask you if you were going to take advantage of the internet connection on the machine to download additional cycles.  The online example stated denims.  But with the description vague, I wouldn't be able to see how it compares to the jeans cycle on my Whirlpool.  Whirlpool/Maytag start out with a default cycle length time and after sensing and filling up for wash cycle, it will adjust down or up--usually up in my case since most of my loads are above the average size.  It can be anywhere from an additional 10 minutes to an additional 24- 30 minutes on Allergene or sheets/linens.   I'm curious as to how well and how sensitive load balancing is before it takes off into a true spin.  And also when it has to go through more than one or two balance attempts does the timer display stop its countdown or indicate it's "holding"?  I like that LGs spin in both directions. 


Post# 813951 , Reply# 70   3/14/2015 at 15:01 (3,302 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Mike

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I had to laugh at your post about your other half getting moist at the Internet interface. Same thing here. When I originally showed these machines to Gary and he saw that feature, he immediately said "Get them now!!" He had visions of doing the laundry from the gym or something. Ha! Of course we both have iPhones. The dryer is wonderful too. I do think you need a matching set, Mike. :-)

I washed our CA King sized quilted comforter with wonderful results. The turbo spray is fantastic on really big loads to fully saturate big articles like a blanket or comforter.

Bob, the balancing act seems to not impede spin as much as the Frigidaire did sometimes. The LG seems to go right into spin with little effort. I love the high speed spins between wash and rinse.


Post# 813964 , Reply# 71   3/14/2015 at 15:49 (3,302 days old) by midcentnurse (Lake Charles, La)        

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We have pretty much the same one, about 6 years old now so slightly different buttons is all.. Love it! Got to run the tub clean cycle after the dog stuff but no problems whatsoever. If you crank up the cycle buttons to kick butt mode that thing will clean like nothing else. Was going to do either a perfect vintage TL set in the new house or possibly a SQ set, but thought about it and want to keep my LG and get the matching gas dryer. Save $ and I love having a machine I actually like enough to move ;)

Post# 813991 , Reply# 72   3/14/2015 at 20:38 (3,302 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mike, I am also curious as to whether TurboWash is a locked in option for Normal/Cottons.  Conflicting manuals online, but is Extra Hot temperature only available/used for the Santizie cycle or is it an option for Normal/Cottons. 


Post# 813994 , Reply# 73   3/14/2015 at 20:56 (3,302 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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From what I have seen, Turbo Wash can be turned off for Normal and Sanitary is the only cycle that Extra Hot can be used on. That's my experience so far. I am sure as time goes on with my new washer, I will figure the cycles out.

Post# 813995 , Reply# 74   3/14/2015 at 20:58 (3,302 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Extra Hot

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Hi Bobbie

Extra Hot temp is default on Sanitary and Allergeine cycles.

But you can turn the heater on and get extra hot on most other cycles if you push the "steam" button. Steam is not available on Delicate, Perm Press and speed wash, of course.


Post# 814038 , Reply# 75   3/15/2015 at 07:28 (3,302 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Normal

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Probably doesn't use the heater at all.

Malcolm


Post# 814263 , Reply# 76   3/16/2015 at 16:45 (3,300 days old) by Nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well it looks like I am going to get a new dryer too. My GE Profile. Dryer sensor system doesn't work anymore. I have cleaned the sensors with rubbing alcohol and still the dryer won't shut off when the load is dry. I can set it to damp and still over dries the load. Or even more maddening is that it leaves the load very damp. Then I have to run the dryer again. This is happening more often in past three months. I love the dryer but this performance issue is a tad much. And of course it's long past out of warranty...

Post# 814366 , Reply# 77   3/16/2015 at 23:51 (3,300 days old) by A440 ()        

Congratulations on your GE breaking down! 

Let me guess...you are going to get the matching LG? 

Gas or Electric?

 

 


Post# 814379 , Reply# 78   3/17/2015 at 01:33 (3,300 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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The model I am looking at is an LG but not the matching dryer, one with the control panel on top and and has the large door opening. I like the matching dryer but the opening is a tad smallish. But when it comes down to it, I might get the matching dryer. In electric since the GE Profile is electric.
The other thing the profile dryer is doing is that its operating temps are running hotter too. The dryer vent is clear and there air duct is clear..its baffling to say the least.


Post# 814430 , Reply# 79   3/17/2015 at 09:47 (3,299 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Hey Mike

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Sorry to hear about your GE dryer. Bad timing....or maybe good. Although it doesn't matter performance wise, there is something about a matched set....even in the basement.

I love the LG dryer match to the washer. Great performance and while the port may be a bit smaller than the top control model, it is really large enough to accommodate even a comforter handily.

Now tell me these don't make a handsome couple!?



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Post# 814472 , Reply# 80   3/17/2015 at 13:03 (3,299 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Rich, those are nice together and I may very well get the matching dryer anyways. Plus side is that they can be stacked if I have to. That will be happening next week I think.

Post# 814817 , Reply# 81   3/19/2015 at 19:20 (3,297 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        
Cool pic for LG fans..

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LG, aka Lucky Gold Star, documents its first exports of consumer electronics to the US in 1962


Post# 814840 , Reply# 82   3/20/2015 at 00:00 (3,297 days old) by A440 ()        

Great Picture! 

I wonder what was in those boxes?

I have an original "Gold Star" convection oven / microwave from about 1981 that is used daily.  It has never skipped a beat.  I did not buy it new but bought it at a Yard Sale and it was not used very much.  It is a great oven for both microwave and convection.

Brent


Post# 815038 , Reply# 83   3/21/2015 at 16:46 (3,295 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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So far I am loving the new washer. Big upgrade to what I was using before. And washing is superb! I did try those tricks and was shocked to see that the high spin setting on Cottons/Normal , at top spin speed is a whopping 1199 rpms. It explains why when I wash shirts they come out wrinkled so I am going to try a Medium spin speed and see how that goes. The wrinkling is rather an eye opener since they come out of the dryer looking like they had been run over. Plus with me drying laundry out when the weather gets nicer, it will be an issue and I don't wanna be ironing! Lol
That said I am going to get the matching dryer this week. The GE Profile dryer, I did love, but the board is going and the heating is now higher than before, cool down is non existent now. So it's time to bid happy trails to it. I keep reading about how fast and how well the LG dryer performs so I am looking forward to that. Funny how the LG dryer's airflow system reminds me of a Maytag Stream of Heat designed dryer. I loved the DE 710 I had back I n the 80's. That dryer was fast and dried thoroughly too.


Post# 815062 , Reply# 84   3/21/2015 at 22:14 (3,295 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Extra Hot

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I did a whitest whites cycle today and added "steam" which brought the wash temp up to 72 celcius or 161 fairenheit. The cycle ran 1:42, about one hour of which was bringing up the temp.

I had an extra soiled load, using some white towels on a plumbing project earlier. Used Tide HE powder and added some powdered Oxygen bleach. Spectacular results. These whites were dazzling!

I probably won't use this extra hot wash often, but I like knowing it's there when I need it.


Post# 815075 , Reply# 85   3/22/2015 at 06:28 (3,295 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
72°C

Given some EU machines (for example E-Lux and I even think Bosch&Siemens) quit heating at pretty much exactly 80°C, that's pretty close to EU standards.
And amazingly close to my preffered cycle for cleaning rags and such (80°C, Prewash and Intensiv rinse in the Bauknecht).


Post# 815078 , Reply# 86   3/22/2015 at 07:19 (3,295 days old) by Paulinroyton (B)        
LG Front Loader UK

Here is my LG steam washer

Post# 815079 , Reply# 87   3/22/2015 at 07:22 (3,295 days old) by Paulinroyton (B)        
Deep Rinse

Deep Rinse

CLICK HERE TO GO TO Paulinroyton's LINK


Post# 815349 , Reply# 88   3/23/2015 at 14:13 (3,293 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well I went out and bought the matching dryer to my LG washer, it's coming on Wednesday. I got a price match at Sears and they went under what BestBuy and Homo Depot were charging. Now I have to buy a new phone with NFC on it and Android controlledSo I can connect to them.

Post# 815539 , Reply# 89   3/24/2015 at 11:25 (3,292 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Wow Rich. 1:42. That's about 10 minutes less than my Duet's Allergen cycle for 130 degrees. If I remember correctly, if you select steam option, turbo option isn't available. I'd be curious what warm wash water temperature is before and after steam.

Post# 815554 , Reply# 90   3/24/2015 at 13:44 (3,292 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Here's in interesting thread with temp info for the XL Kenmore version of the LG: read the posts  by rpsinfoman. He also explains the difference between Steam and Sanitary, which probably also explains why the LG above got hotter than the Whirlpool (difference in water usage).


Post# 815567 , Reply# 91   3/24/2015 at 15:07 (3,292 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Alex, thanks for finding that thread. I've referenced to it before but could never locate it again once I initially found it.

Post# 815813 , Reply# 92   3/25/2015 at 19:38 (3,291 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well the matching dryer was delivered today and I installed the dryer with new exhaust duct and power cord. I have to say that this dryer is, by far, the quietest dryer I have ever heard, and it seems to move a very good amount of air thru the drum. I am very impressed by the dry times and how accurate the sensor cycles are so far. More spot on than a Whirlpool dryer and thats saying something. I cannot believe how soft the clothes come out of the dryer and wrinkle free as well too. This washer and dryer are going to be my dynamic duo. I am glad I upgraded to these now.
One thing with the washer is that it rinses well and with 3 spray rinses and a deep rinse, its amazing how well everything is rinsed and I am finding no need to add extra rinses with the cycles. Cycle times have been really fast using TurboWash on par with my SQ washer. Extraction has been quite impressive and I am finding just leaving the spin at High is plenty and that spins at a respectable 1200 rpms. This washer is also very quiet as well. Now I am actually looking forward to seeing my water bill for the first full quarter we have the washer , so that will be April thru June.


Post# 815817 , Reply# 93   3/25/2015 at 20:40 (3,291 days old) by NeptuneGuy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
3 Spray Rinses

I am so glad to hear that the LG's are performing great for everyone. I'm thinking of replacing my 8 year old Maytag Epic a.k.a Whirlpool Duet later this year and was seriously considering a Speed Queen FL. But its lack of an internal heater is my main reservation about purchasing one. The LG's are looking like a great alternative.

Question for the LG owners, the 3 spray rinses plus one deep rinse, is that the standard on most cycles? Or are they all different? Also, does the addition of extra rinses reduce or eliminate the spray rinses?

Thanks,
Chris



Post# 815819 , Reply# 94   3/25/2015 at 21:08 (3,291 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I am finding that with Cottons/Normal cycle that TurboWash is the default option and that one can add up to three extra deep rinses so that would be 4 deep rinses plus the first spin after the wash cycle has a spray rinse, at high speed. The last two spray rinses is in the final spin. But as I said I am finding that the standard rinsing alone is outstanding and there is no flush out of fabric softener out of the clothes. I am amazed that the atonizer spray that the washer has , gets the entire depth of the drum and the door as well to clear it off. Towels cycle also has the spray rinsing system as well. That cycle performs differently from Cottons/normal in that it will pause more often to remove water as to not overwhelm the pump. I downloaded a denim cycle for both machines tonight. I am liking that Tag On feature and it works well on the new phone I got...

Post# 815820 , Reply# 95   3/25/2015 at 21:30 (3,291 days old) by NeptuneGuy27 (Baltimore,MD)        
Awesome news

That's great to know! Thank you so much for sharing the info. I am really liking these the more I hear. While there is nothing wrong with the set I have now, I've never been truly impressed with them either. The washer is great if you are washing light to normally soiled loads. But, if you are washing heavily soiled loads, such as kitchen towels & cleaning rags, they're next to impossible to get clean without a lot of pre-treating and soaking. And even then, oil or grease based stains will not budge... even with the Sanitary cycle.

If your LG got out stains from your kitchen towels that had been set, that's very impressive. I can't wait to hear about the Denim cycle and how it performs!

Chris


Post# 815832 , Reply# 96   3/25/2015 at 23:30 (3,291 days old) by A440 ()        

Mike,

 

Sounds awesome about your LG Duo!  Thanks for the reports! 

 

Brent


Post# 815980 , Reply# 97   3/26/2015 at 19:13 (3,290 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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And in case anyone is wondering how much air is pulled thru an LG dryer like my DLEX3570...its a cool 215 cfms.

Post# 816235 , Reply# 98   3/28/2015 at 10:16 (3,288 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Glad you are liking your new dryer, Mike. As you know, I love my LG twins also. Have you tried the steam cycle in your dryer?

Bobby Appnut - I was able to select Turbo on Whitest Whites cycle with Steam added, but the recirc pump did not come on during wash while the machine was heating the water, just tumbled back and forth. At the end of the wash cycle, after temp was reached, it added cold water (bleach inject sequence) and started to recirculate water. I was amazed by the results of this "profile" wash of gradually heating the water to a very high temp. I've read this maximizes oxygen bleach, which I had used.


Post# 816252 , Reply# 99   3/28/2015 at 12:29 (3,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Here is a new pic of my set. I am liking these very much.

Post# 816253 , Reply# 100   3/28/2015 at 12:29 (3,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Open wide!

Post# 816254 , Reply# 101   3/28/2015 at 12:30 (3,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Inside the dryer...

Post# 816255 , Reply# 102   3/28/2015 at 12:38 (3,288 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I have not tried any steam cycle yet on either machine. One thing is that I am amazed at how fast wash cycles are on the washer using Cotton/Normal. Most loads washed and ready in under 35 mins. The dryer keeps up with the washer, so that saves quite a bit of time. As I said before I am finding that the standard rinse protocol of a spray rinse, deep rinse and two spray rinses do a fantastic job! Medium spin speed is 800 rpms and it seems to add a minute or so to the final spin at that speed to compensate for the lower speeds. Still better extraction than the SQ washer, not to mention overall performance.

Post# 816364 , Reply# 103   3/29/2015 at 01:05 (3,288 days old) by A440 ()        
~Mike

Glad you are having so much fun.   Beautiful set!

 

It is awesome hearing about the cycles and such and your approval.  I think the new LG Machines are very awesome!

 

Any chance we might see a big towel load with the Turbo Rinse?  The only thing I have seen thus far is very small loads.

 

Thanks in advance!

 

B

 

 


Post# 816490 , Reply# 104   3/29/2015 at 21:21 (3,287 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)        
LG 3570

From the videos and reviews here I think this seems like a very nice washer. From what I am reading in this thread this 110V model has a heater. Is this correct? If so how does the heater and cycle behave if it gets hot water that is 90F or less? Does it have a heater time out - a max time for the heater to operate and then shut off even if the temp has not been reached?

Post# 816527 , Reply# 105   3/30/2015 at 08:36 (3,286 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Quoting from the thread I linked above regarding the steam option:

"The 66C is time and weight dependent and most time reaches its target. On lighter loads I have seen it climb to 69C. Recommended weight for Sanitary is like 10lbs, so indeed it's weight dependent."


Post# 819258 , Reply# 106   4/14/2015 at 18:40 (3,271 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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So far I am liking the new set. I have finally used the Steam setting on Bright Whites cycle and the results are impressive to say the least. This washer amazes me on stain removal. It does suds up a tad with Persil and even suds up with Tide Turbo HE powder. But that only occurs during spin cycles...it doesn't happen all the time though.
The dryer is very fast and equally impressive in speed and capacity and most of all gentleness. The clothes emerge soft and fluffy and wrinkle free. The dryer dries like a Maytag Stream of Heat dryer in many ways, diagonal airflow thru the load and the baffles prevent balling up of sheets. My GE Profile dryer was notorious for balling up sheets and blankets. This dryer doesn't do that at all.


Post# 819260 , Reply# 107   4/14/2015 at 19:35 (3,271 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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YAY MIKE!!!!


Post# 819270 , Reply# 108   4/14/2015 at 22:05 (3,271 days old) by A440 ()        

Mike that is fantastic about your new love for your LG's. 

I have not looked at the Specs of the dryer but wanted to ask you if the dryer is belt drive or also direct drive like the washer? 

Thanks

Brent


Post# 819313 , Reply# 109   4/15/2015 at 02:40 (3,271 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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The dryer is belt drive for the drum and direct drive for the fan. Its very well built and solid. The drum rides smooth and the dryer is almost silent when drying a load. Both machines are very quiet, much more than the SQ washer and the GE Profile dryer. The only time I hear the washer is when its filling for the wash cycle and the high final spin which to me sounds like a flying saucer. One thing that it does is that it is very finicky about balancing a load for the spin cycles. The cycle will not move on until it does spin. The other thing is that the drain pump doesnt run all the time during spin so if I wash towels that hold alot of water, then there is a good chance I will hear the washer with the water trapped in the drum and the washer will pulse the pump to drain the tub.
But that said, I can see why Whirlpool and other American manufacturers are have a fit with LG, taking them to court to stop them from selling here or as they say "dumping" machines on the market, they seem to be better built. Time will tell how they hold up.


Post# 819333 , Reply# 110   4/15/2015 at 07:08 (3,271 days old) by A440 ()        

Thanks for the info Mike!

As far as the spin routine it is typical of most front loaders that I have used.  I don't think it is a balance issue but a "get all of the water out" of the fabric goal. 

One of the Lowes near my home has the LG, Samsung and Duet washers all next to each other.  Also the dryers.  Side by side.  I so wish I could do a large load of towels in each at the same time to observe behaviors of all three units.  Then the dryers.  I asked the sales manager the other day what is the top selling down to least.  Answer was LG, then Samsung and Whirlpool last.  I am  more than sure that  the Whirlpool is a very well built machine.  My Kenmore HE3T and matching dryer are going on 14 years old.  (I need to check the date)  I do have to say that when Whirlpool changed the font on their name brand logo it changed my perception of their appliances.  Although I know they are well built.  When I see that font in Whirlpool my subliminal conscious (?) sees / says cheap. 


Post# 819386 , Reply# 111   4/15/2015 at 12:56 (3,270 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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The big difference with the Whirlpool /Kenmore HE 3T is that the washer is built in Germany. The ones built here today to me look kinda cheesy with the random hole pattern and now the new spiral hole patterns in the new front loaders. A dealer here that sells Maytag, will not stock the front loaders because of mega issues with control boards. She was telling me that they only seem to last less than 6 months before they crap out. She had one in her home and sure enough it died at 6 months. She was not impressed and waiting for the board was in a 6 week backlog. Now for a dealer to say that says a lot to me. She also said that it extended into the Whirlpools as well. Made sense to me since Whirlpool builds both.


Post# 819443 , Reply# 112   4/15/2015 at 19:47 (3,270 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Friends of mine in Abilene got a Maytag HE toploader about 3 years ago at the most.  They had numerous board issues.  After the last fix, they sold the pair and got an LG front load pair--which a stay at home househusband preferred.  They love it. 


Post# 819511 , Reply# 113   4/16/2015 at 07:46 (3,270 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I know only a handful of people who have LG front-load washers and all have been very satisfied with the machines. I had an LG washer that was given to me by a friend who bought it new, the first of the LG models off the boat U.S. back in 2002. He replaced the motor sensor once and when it started to exhibit the same symptoms, just replaced the machine with a new LG.

I removed all the wiring harness connectors from the motor and sensor, cleaned them and never had a bit of trouble again. I fixed some small rust spots around the edge of the dispenser cover on top and used the machine for several months before passing it along to a friend. He used it for six months or so and began having problems with the control board which eventually died completely. I couldn't find the part available anywhere from LG, online, etc. and finally tracked one down on eBay from a pawn shop in Delaware. The machine was literally 10.5 years old and many of the parts had been discontinued. Once it had the new board, it worked as new again with no troubles and I sold it on CL shortly thereafter.

Parts availability should be considered when buying any washer, but expect there to be few to none manufactured for a machine 10+ years old. I would imagine that will apply to most makers from Whirlpool to the foreign brands. The days of keeping a machine running for 20-25 years are coming to a quick end.

While not an LG, I saw a Samsung 9.5 cubic foot dryer in the clearance room the other day at our local store. What a beast! 42" high, 30" wide and 38" deep. It's a monster thing NOT on a pedestal, I can only imagine what it must look like to a small child. The drum is absolutely cavernous - I want one! Lol.


Post# 819523 , Reply# 114   4/16/2015 at 09:50 (3,269 days old) by A440 ()        

Really sad about the parts not being available in such a short time.  10 years goes by so fast for any appliance. 

Greg I saw the same dryer not all that long ago. 

I also saw the New LG 5.2 Cubic Foot washer and matching 9.5 foot Dryer at Brandsmart about a week ago!  Even on the huge showroom both were enormous!  I had a hard time touching the back of the dryer drum!

I want a set also! 

 


Post# 819554 , Reply# 115   4/16/2015 at 15:20 (3,269 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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That Samsung dryer sure is huge. From reviewed.com:

"Inside are a laundry basket, a Queen-sized comforter, a dozen towels, four pillowcases and two bedsheets."


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Post# 821721 , Reply# 116   5/2/2015 at 00:03 (3,254 days old) by A440 ()        
LG WM4270HVA

Looks like LG has a 4.5 Cubic Foot coming out in the traditional front loader 27" casing. 

 

Wonder when?  I also wonder if the dryer size is going to change?

 

B



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Post# 821726 , Reply# 117   5/2/2015 at 00:36 (3,254 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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That model should already be on sale - the Kenmore version as well. Also, WhirlTag and Samsung have identical models in width and capacity.

Euro LG





Post# 826260 , Reply# 118   6/2/2015 at 13:19 (3,222 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I was doing laundry today and set the washer for the Bright Whites cycle, heavy soil and a hot wash. I started the washer and when I returned to get the load out of the washer, it had given the load a warm final rinse. I was kinda surprised by that since most of the time it will use a cold deep rinse and cold spray rinse. Not this time, warm rinse was performed. Not complaining but it kinda surprised me so I wonder if its a default for the heavy soil setting on that cycle.
I still love this washer and it performs well and better than the SQ top loader in many ways.


Post# 826265 , Reply# 119   6/2/2015 at 14:00 (3,222 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Though I trust LG to be that clever, I am not 100% sure if the final rinse was actually warm.

I know that happens to me on boilwashes with our rag-towels in the AEG sometimes. As the rinses are rather short then (small load, only 2 rinses), the cool down is pretty short as well and only one interim spin is performed, the load is basicly still warm from the 80°C (180°F-ish) main wash.
Those stainless steal tubs do hold some heat, as well as the clothing it self during low level rinses.
Connect that with only 20-30 minutes between highest temp point of the wash and cycle end and you might still have warm clothing at the end.

So my guess is that heavy soil on hot on the Whites cycle caused the internal heater to engage. Temperatures reached 140°F or even more.
Then, the short TurboWash rinse sequence with only one deep rinse was performed and thus, the load was still, rather then again, warm.

Though it would be really cool if you could rerun that cycle and check back on whether it was still or again warm.


Post# 826504 , Reply# 120   6/3/2015 at 18:16 (3,221 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well I neglected to say that I gave this cycle 2 extra rinses on top of the rinses that it already does. I normally use the soil level setting one up from Normal, but this load of whites was very soiled so I thought that Heavy setting was called for. I also used a tad more Persil Pro White Pearls to really tackle the dirty socks and tea towels that I had in the load. The results were nothing short of stunning. Every stain came out. The Bright Whites cycle starts out with warm water and the water heater in the washer kicks on and does a "profile wash" where stains will release from fabrics at a certain temp and it moves on to add more heat so no stain is set...if that makes sense. It kinda cool that it does that.
So that theory of the hot wash water coming over into the rinse is not correct. In my opinion.


Post# 826506 , Reply# 121   6/3/2015 at 18:31 (3,221 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Yeah, ok...

That changes the whole thing.

But still: I know it can happen. Just thought LG would give any kind of notice.


Post# 832786 , Reply# 122   7/18/2015 at 21:24 (3,176 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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Well I got my first water bill for the quarter beginning in April and ending in late June. Last quarter with me using the SQ washer we paid $253 thats a combined water and sewer and that was from January to March end. Today we got the water bill with me using the new LG washer and our water bill was $162...thats a $91 drop from last quarter.
The electric bill is less as well. When using the SQ washer with the GE Profile dryer the bill ran about $60 a month. Now we average about $28 and thats a $32 drop as well. And I have not used my clothesline either. I am sure if I were it would drop even more.
Very happy I switched. Clothes are cleaner as well and don't look tired either.


Post# 832788 , Reply# 123   7/18/2015 at 23:25 (3,176 days old) by A440 ()        

Mike that is awesome!  That is a huge gain in savings! 

I bet now that you have washed everything in the house and are caught up, it will drop even more!

B


Post# 832849 , Reply# 124   7/19/2015 at 15:37 (3,175 days old) by dartman (Portland Oregon)        

I upgraded to a top load Kenmore/Whirlpool 28102 HE washer last year when my tax refund came back and I'm finding similar savings, though our combined sewer/water bill is typically higher then yours is.
We also just got the bigger Kenmore/whirlpool dryer for this years upgrade from our washer and it works nicely and SHOULD be saving us on the power bill but can't really say yet as we went equal pay to balance out the huge winter bill vs summer.
Have to look at the graphs on our bill and compare to see if it's really helping and having different weather every year doesn't help as we have a forced air elctric furnace that I'm hoping to replace with a heat pump soonish.
I think many of us were forced to upgrade to HE washers just to try and save some money on our bills, and luckily many of the better washers now do a better job then our old school water wasters.



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