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Post# 810706   2/22/2015 at 23:49 (3,347 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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Nice!

ad: " A 1950's to 1960's Frigidaire Dishwasher. Perfect for a Remodel or Architect looking to go with a vintage look for your next project. Item is being sold "AS IS". This item is also perfect for the antique collector and would make an excellent restoration project!

All offers will be considered.... ITEM MUST GO... FIRST COME FIRST SERVE!

Must sell by February 28 - March 1, 2015

To schedule a site visit or for more information, contact Community Event Services, LLC at the number above. "


CLICK HERE TO GO TO ovrphil's LINK on Stlouis Craigslist


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Post# 810714 , Reply# 1   2/23/2015 at 02:14 (3,347 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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OMG! AAHH I WANT THAT THING!!!


Post# 810730 , Reply# 2   2/23/2015 at 06:52 (3,347 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
50s Frigidaire DW

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Isn't this like the first one they ever made?


Post# 810733 , Reply# 3   2/23/2015 at 07:27 (3,347 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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A little voice told me we'd hear from PhilR on this one. :-)

Post# 810744 , Reply# 4   2/23/2015 at 09:35 (3,347 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Whoa!  Is that possibly the 1955 model??  


Post# 810756 , Reply# 5   2/23/2015 at 10:57 (3,347 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Yes, yes it is!


Post# 810759 , Reply# 6   2/23/2015 at 11:18 (3,347 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Extremely rare!!!


Post# 810924 , Reply# 7   2/24/2015 at 12:55 (3,346 days old) by Travis ()        
Going to look

I am going to look this week.  I'll post some pics.  There's a vintage stove and fridge also.


Post# 810930 , Reply# 8   2/24/2015 at 13:24 (3,346 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Please get it! I have tried to contact the seller and I didn't get a reply!


Post# 810941 , Reply# 9   2/24/2015 at 15:24 (3,346 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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yea travis go get it I tried to contact the seller too no reply hum
travis is the master at snagging good stuff ha ha


Post# 810944 , Reply# 10   2/24/2015 at 16:06 (3,346 days old) by Travis ()        

Why Thank you Chris!


Post# 811120 , Reply# 11   2/25/2015 at 18:18 (3,345 days old) by Carolinacat (north carolina)        

See how many metal cabinets are there as well.

Post# 811172 , Reply# 12   2/25/2015 at 21:30 (3,345 days old) by Travis ()        

From what I understand, this is an old church kitchen that's being vandalized and broken into by homeless persons. I am going there tomorrow. I will do my best to take some pictures and rescue the dishwasher. I am expecting about the worst conditions to work in. It's 20 degrees and likely no heat or electric.

Post# 811181 , Reply# 13   2/25/2015 at 21:56 (3,344 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Good luck..

I think the aggravation will be worth it.

Post# 811263 , Reply# 14   2/26/2015 at 09:10 (3,344 days old) by Travis ()        

I have spoken to both Chris and Phil,

I expect this dishwasher will be coming home today, provided I can get it removed. I was told the lighting was out and it does seem to be in the basement and fortunately by a window. I will post some pictures tonight even if I have to go back to get the dishwasher.

This is exactly the type of adventure that I love. Rest assured, even if I don't keep it long term, one of us boys will have it.


Post# 811307 , Reply# 15   2/26/2015 at 12:23 (3,344 days old) by Travis ()        

It is a 1955 model. It just looks dirty. It had some plastic ice cube trays inside so maybe it did work. I made a deal and is coming home on Saturday. At least it will come home and get cleaned up, and possibly pee on the floor in my kitchen!

Post# 811320 , Reply# 16   2/26/2015 at 14:04 (3,344 days old) by Travis ()        

I am back to where I can type on a keyboard.  The church was built in 1955.  It makes sense that it got this brand new dishwasher.

 

There is a sink installed to the right.  I have a feeling that the ice cube trays were in the DW for drying.  The DW looks to be in fair shape, though the sump area has rust stains.  I am hopeful that after a good cleaning, most of it's sins will vanish.  It's a fairly large kitchen with Republic metal cabinets.

 

They had a large stove in there, not sure what.  I was told a dozen guys took it out.  They're salvaging the building in preparation for demolition.  The area is just north of downtown, but also in an area of low income housing.  I will add some pictures later tonight.

 

Am I correct that the water sprays of the tower under the upper rack?  It looks kind of like a Youngstown DW.

 

 


Post# 811333 , Reply# 17   2/26/2015 at 15:37 (3,344 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
Travis

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Great! We'll all be interested in seeing what unfolds…hoping for the best. The neighborhood was a little run-down. 1955, and it was in there all that time. I wonder what the stove looked like.

Post# 811351 , Reply# 18   2/26/2015 at 18:32 (3,344 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Yes, Travis, the water sprays out of the round tube that's under the upper rack--thus the spin-tube dishwasher.  It sprays in all directions out from that central tube.  Yes, it's a very similar principle to the Youngstown. 


Post# 811395 , Reply# 19   2/26/2015 at 23:20 (3,343 days old) by Travis ()        



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Post# 811396 , Reply# 20   2/26/2015 at 23:25 (3,343 days old) by Travis ()        

Where does the little strainer thing go?

Post# 811401 , Reply# 21   2/27/2015 at 00:00 (3,343 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Just like that. Nothing holds it down to the pump. These pics show the strainer on my 1963, yours must be a bit different as even my 1962 is... On my 1962, there's screw that holds the fine strainer to the larger one at the base. The fine strainer floats above the other one when the pump doesn't work but the suction from the pump holds it down when the dishwasher is washing. On this 1963, the shaft just holds the strainer in the correct position.


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Post# 811423 , Reply# 22   2/27/2015 at 07:16 (3,343 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Early Frigidaire Dishwasher

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Hi Travis, great save, these early FD DWs were interesting machines, they were like nothing else which makes having one a must for any serious DW collector. 

 

Frigidaire was probably the only DW manufacturer that had real porcelain enameled front panels on their early DWs., Yay.

 

The rust stains are a pretty common sight in these early machines if the DW had not been used in years. The main pump housing is cast iron and if the machine ever sat idle fora period of time with water standing in it the standing water would get very rusty. But usually this rust staining cleans up pretty easily.


Post# 811427 , Reply# 23   2/27/2015 at 08:06 (3,343 days old) by turquoisedude (.)        

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Wow, Travis, congratulations!! I can't wait to see more! If you ever have any questions, I learned a few lessons the hard way when I restored my 1958 Spin-Tube so don't be shy.

Post# 811613 , Reply# 24   2/28/2015 at 16:53 (3,342 days old) by defoedude (Ferguson, MO)        
I was about to share this!

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Way to go Travis

Post# 811626 , Reply# 25   2/28/2015 at 18:01 (3,342 days old) by Travis ()        
It's half way out

Ok, the engineers at Frigidaire weren't that good with their installation method.

I removed a couple screws that were holding the machine to the counter.
I then removed the lower cover and found the water valve. The clearance is too tight for a normal sized wrench to get in there. I took the valve off of the frame. My thought was that I could pull the DW out and then remove the valve ve.

At this point nothing will dubge at all, so I started to remove the counter. I got that off, but it still wouldn't move. I then removed the cabinet to one side. The building in block and everything is toggle bolted. I did get the 12" cabinet removed. Once that was out, I found the problem. The frame of the diswasher is anchored to the floor about 3" from the rear wall! I assume it's anchored on the other side. Though the screw head is good, the anchor is frozen by age and rust. I tried to remove the sink base on the opposite side, but the screws were rusted there also.

So, back to my comment about poor engineering. Why would you ever wish to fasten a DW to the floor in the rear? I'll be going back with a cordless drill and a tubing cutter. In peeking in the back, I see that the water line goes up from the floor through the frame. Once the DW is loose of the anchors at the bottom, it will have to be lifted off the supply pipe.

I will overcome the obstacles, but this is why all the old DW's get trashed. I am lucky the building is being demolished in this case.



Post# 811632 , Reply# 26   2/28/2015 at 18:55 (3,342 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
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What you're finding reminds me of what I would see frequently at work.  I would see younger folks detailing construction (particularly as related to roofing and flashing), that would work fine the first time around, but would totally be a PITA the first time a re-roofing was required.  The lesson being - think beyond the initial installation!  It's not good enough to figure out how to accomplish the initial construction/installation, but if re-working in the future can reasonably expected, figure out how to accommodate that, too.

 

lawrence


Post# 812318 , Reply# 27   3/4/2015 at 17:41 (3,338 days old) by Travis ()        
It's on the truck

I am happy to report that I got the dishwasher removed!  It had three of four possible bolts into the floor.  I can see that there were also provisions for adjustable feet, but NO, they had to bolt it down.

 

It looks to be in fair shape.  The bottom frame is rusted, but should clean up.  Now I have to find an innocent victim to get it inside the house.


Post# 812334 , Reply# 28   3/4/2015 at 19:09 (3,338 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Great! Keep us informed! 


Post# 812363 , Reply# 29   3/4/2015 at 21:16 (3,338 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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They bolted it because back then, a dishwasher was a premium appliance. ? Maybe, just maybe they were trying to insure it via the bolt downs. Congratulations, Travis - I was sweating just reading about the struggle.

Post# 812409 , Reply# 30   3/5/2015 at 10:38 (3,337 days old) by Travis ()        

Just some pics to go with the my previous post.

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Post# 812411 , Reply# 31   3/5/2015 at 11:30 (3,337 days old) by mopar65 (Almont MI)        


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Fantastic!!! Love the pics keep them coming!

Post# 812431 , Reply# 32   3/5/2015 at 14:12 (3,337 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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I can't wait to see how it performs!!


Post# 812538 , Reply# 33   3/6/2015 at 07:41 (3,336 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
The ad is still posted

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as of today - stlouis.craigslist.org/app/490089...

Are you sure you took the dishwasher, Travis? lol? (ducks)


Post# 812627 , Reply# 34   3/6/2015 at 18:42 (3,336 days old) by Travis ()        
Yes, it's home

I am sad to report though, that I mashed the trim plate on the front coming in my door.

 

See Chris, I told you I needed help with moving it.


Post# 812638 , Reply# 35   3/6/2015 at 19:34 (3,336 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Is it porcelain-covered?  At least you save it from the crusher and it can always be repainted!


Post# 812646 , Reply# 36   3/6/2015 at 20:14 (3,336 days old) by Travis ()        

No Phil, it's the lightweight piece of aluminum that surrounds the handle.  I am pretty upset, since it was way too much work to get it out. 


Post# 812658 , Reply# 37   3/6/2015 at 21:35 (3,335 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Oh OK is it that bad? 


Post# 812662 , Reply# 38   3/6/2015 at 21:48 (3,335 days old) by Travis ()        

Phil,

 

Yes, in my opinion.  I know that it will be difficult to reshape that soft aluminum.  There are rolled edges on that panel.


Post# 812664 , Reply# 39   3/6/2015 at 21:51 (3,335 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        

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I'll stick my neck out and bet there's a solution, it's just not front and center at the moment.

Post# 812831 , Reply# 40   3/8/2015 at 11:41 (3,334 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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see I knew you would do it. cheers to you, now im sure there is a way to tinker with the trim to get it back or looking much better than you see it now send a pic. do the hard stuff now clean her up work on any leaks and will see to go next.


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