Thread Number: 58910
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
The Inevitable has happened - No more WP agitator washers... |
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Post# 814843   3/20/2015 at 01:06 (3,296 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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I suppose it is to be expected, though it happened much sooner than I thought. The two models that are now listed as "traditional top load" washers have the new agipeller, and neither machine has a manual water level option. I'm glad I still have my WP belt-drive stored in waiting until I have a laundry room to hold both it, the Bravos and the dryer.
I am interested to see how well these machines will perform. I assume that though they are considered traditional, they use HE water levels and roll the load from the center to the outside. They aren't terrible looking machines on the inside, and the vanes on the post of the agitator remind me of the standard straight vane that is usually in the BOL machines WP builds.
Also, check out Maytag's equivalent machines on their website. One of them actually has a horsepower rating for the motor listed in the key features. |
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Post# 814884 , Reply# 1   3/20/2015 at 08:02 (3,296 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 814892 , Reply# 2   3/20/2015 at 09:37 (3,296 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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Actually i've looked at both models online and it seems as if they use a good amount of water. One of the models show how much water is in the tub. |
Post# 814893 , Reply# 3   3/20/2015 at 09:39 (3,296 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 814898 , Reply# 4   3/20/2015 at 10:44 (3,296 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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sadly i can not accept this since for me i find that an agitator washer is the best cleaner and shopsthat sells used refurbish appliance as new will have a high demand for agitator washers, not counting that alot will most certainly boycott whirlpool maytag washers and dryers and will go toward bransd like speed queen (*huebsch in canada) general electric and hotpoint for topload. Washers with agitator and this will also affect sales in major stores that sell the whirlpool brand. well these are my toughs and i am sure some will agree with me and i think its time that the goverments stop putting so many restrictions when it comes to washing machines construction i wish that we could have a good top load washer that respect the energy star requirements but with out affecting its cleaning power
like for exemple you need to do a true hot water wash but requires a warm rinse {because of recovering from a cold to kill germs or allergies} sorry for the fowl word i will use but curse the fact that washers today eather they are a top load or front load that are all cold rinse, we need a washers that can give us the option of a true warm rinse with out haveing to reset the dial to the main wash cycle just to have warm water for rinsing clothes. [**Top load washer with mechanic timer dial].
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Post# 814940 , Reply# 5   3/20/2015 at 18:34 (3,295 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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boooo hissssss! |
Post# 814951 , Reply# 6   3/20/2015 at 20:12 (3,295 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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i think they still offer classic agitator models but on special order see link *classic direct drive and new belt drive model because if i had a choice i would go with this model model that my grandmother own until she gave her washer dryer to my cousin so stock up while you can lol
CLICK HERE TO GO TO pierreandreply4's LINK
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Post# 814963 , Reply# 7   3/20/2015 at 21:41 (3,295 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa )   |   | |
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Not a happy camper. |
Post# 814979 , Reply# 8   3/21/2015 at 00:48 (3,295 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Unless you want to buy a Speed Queen-looks like if you are an agitator TL washer fan-you are going to have to do your washer shopping at the appliance swap shops. |
Post# 814981 , Reply# 9   3/21/2015 at 01:02 (3,295 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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Post# 815014 , Reply# 10   3/21/2015 at 12:09 (3,295 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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Well one thing i know for sure is that they need to post a poll on there website to ask customers what they went for there washing needs because its sad but whirlpool in the laundry department will be losing lots of customers that will look at other brands for buying a washers and dryers and its sad to see that whirlpool has gone from good qualaty washers and dryers older belt drive and direct drive washers and matching dryers to something so restricted because of local goverments and energy star requiement sure we can have energy star washers and dryers but not be limited by so many restrictions.
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Post# 815058 , Reply# 11   3/21/2015 at 21:22 (3,294 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)   |   | |
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Unless the Canadian site hasn't been updated, it seems they still sell the Inglis version.
www.inglis.ca/index.php/en/produc... |
Post# 815258 , Reply# 13   3/23/2015 at 02:23 (3,293 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Is start making the old style belt drive machines again, exactly like they made in the 80s, and I guarantee you they would not be able to build them fast enough!..I know I would buy one!Forget all this so called energy efficient new"technology". |
Post# 815293 , Reply# 15   3/23/2015 at 08:52 (3,293 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)   |   | |
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well 1 thing i can say is that whirlpool needs to return to basics the perfect washers i would see are these with classic surgilator agitator super surgilator agitator but would see with an extra option a switch that we can turn for classic belt drive fill and washing syle or a direc drive fill and wash system witch means it would protect the belt and we get both wash system in 1 washer well these are my toughs and credit to phil for the use of is pictures that i saved up on my computer please note that some are that i saved from ads.
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Post# 815299 , Reply# 16   3/23/2015 at 09:19 (3,293 days old) by runematic (southcentral pa)   |   | |
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Post# 815428 , Reply# 18   3/23/2015 at 20:57 (3,292 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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Here is the link to the manual where you can see this new agitator in the diagram. CLICK HERE TO GO TO supersurgilator's LINK |
Post# 815460 , Reply# 20   3/23/2015 at 22:38 (3,292 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 815479 , Reply# 21   3/24/2015 at 00:11 (3,292 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 815480 , Reply# 22   3/24/2015 at 00:26 (3,292 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)   |   | |
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Post# 815508 , Reply# 23   3/24/2015 at 07:07 (3,292 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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I'm sure this redesign is in response to water regulations but I bet they kept in mind complaints about the old design and liquid fabric softener. That was actually one of the biggest reasons I didn't choose a WP brand washer because I didn't want a high end machine. With most of the low end models you couldn't use liquid FS except on like one cycle. What a pain! I guess only time will tell how these guys will do. I'm interested to see them in action :)
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Post# 815509 , Reply# 24   3/24/2015 at 07:17 (3,292 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Funny I just noticed in logixx's photo 3 of the Kenmore version of the new agipeller…it looks very similar to the setup in my GE Hydrowave. I put in the older straight vane FlexCare agitator. I don't do many large loads so the corkscrew was kind of pointless. This adds a little more room in there. Interesting! ;-)
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Post# 815514 , Reply# 25   3/24/2015 at 07:54 (3,292 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 815580 , Reply# 26   3/24/2015 at 17:51 (3,291 days old) by supersurgilator (Indiana)   |   | |
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I'm also curious if it will keep the 180 arc that the agitator models used or if it will use a 360 arc like the cabrios use. |
Post# 816278 , Reply# 27   3/28/2015 at 16:41 (3,288 days old) by Imperial70 (MA USA)   |   | |
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Is this the same drive mechanism used in the full size WT washers introduced not too long ago to replace the direct drives? |
Post# 816297 , Reply# 28   3/28/2015 at 18:05 (3,287 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)   |   | |
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Post# 820475 , Reply# 30   4/22/2015 at 18:35 (3,262 days old) by washerdude (Canada )   |   | |
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The wash action with these new agitators is actually good. CLICK HERE TO GO TO washerdude's LINK |
Post# 820485 , Reply# 31   4/22/2015 at 20:11 (3,262 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa )   |   | |
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This washes like the GE hydrowave, with the Precise fill options. It fills lower than a regular washer. Seeing this makes me feel a little better. It looks like it uses enough water. |
Post# 820545 , Reply# 32   4/23/2015 at 06:17 (3,262 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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If it washes like the Hydrowave, it will do a good job. You can use lower water a lot more than in a typical short/fast agitation system since the clothes move more side to side. I've had mine set up with an older straight vane agitator and it looks and works similar to this. Nice improvement over the last models…and I'm glad they brought the deep rinse back!
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Post# 820956 , Reply# 33   4/26/2015 at 07:18 (3,259 days old) by WP-Dude22 (Trinidad and Tobago )   |   | |
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its ok i guess |
Post# 820971 , Reply# 35   4/26/2015 at 09:30 (3,259 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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I don't get how they came to the conclusion to use this as a slogan in combination with the HE agitator. This washer does not have a heater AFAIK, and I doub it has true hot fills as it advertises its ATC. |
Post# 820980 , Reply# 36   4/26/2015 at 10:15 (3,259 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Post# 820982 , Reply# 37   4/26/2015 at 10:30 (3,259 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)   |   | |
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Agreed. The fact that they felt no reason to explain where the supposed heat comes from seriously lowers their credibility, IMO. Also, do I need new glasses or is the washer only a bit over half full? So I get to run 2 loads instead of one? |
Post# 820995 , Reply# 38   4/26/2015 at 12:19 (3,259 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 820999 , Reply# 39   4/26/2015 at 12:48 (3,259 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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That threw me to LGs TurboWash all of the sudden. They advertise the 5.7ft³ with TurboWash, however, the tests about it are done with an "average" 8 pound load. Not that 8 pounds is an unusual load size, but for a washer that big it certanly should be nothing. |
Post# 821004 , Reply# 40   4/26/2015 at 13:10 (3,259 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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... the 4800 is back? Not sure if the agitator might got "upgraded"... CLICK HERE TO GO TO henene4's LINK |
Post# 821087 , Reply# 41   4/27/2015 at 02:56 (3,258 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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henene4: Vielleicht. Meine Eltern haben ein WTW4815EW gekauft. |
Post# 821109 , Reply# 42   4/27/2015 at 07:48 (3,258 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Love that xD You scroll through an american forum, and all of the sudden, a simple, but pretty well spelled German sentence. |
Post# 821117 , Reply# 43   4/27/2015 at 09:01 (3,258 days old) by PassatDoc (Orange County, California)   |   | |
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Aus, ausser*, bei, mit, nach, seit, von, zu: IMMER DATIV Durch, für, gegen, gegenüber, ohne, um: IMMER AKKUSTIV *zu meiner Zeit: außer, aber man muss (muß) die Neue Rechtschreibung folgen... ;) |
Post# 821242 , Reply# 44   4/28/2015 at 02:11 (3,257 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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The last belt drive made in the 80s was the last washer WP made. |
Post# 822660 , Reply# 45   5/9/2015 at 11:22 (3,246 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 822678 , Reply# 46   5/9/2015 at 15:10 (3,246 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 822683 , Reply# 47   5/9/2015 at 16:10 (3,246 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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That guy is CruellaUrsula on YouTube - he also posts lots of videos of his WP Cabrio with the touch panel that I have posted here before. Here's his channel:
CLICK HERE TO GO TO logixx's LINK |
Post# 822685 , Reply# 48   5/9/2015 at 16:40 (3,246 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 822695 , Reply# 49   5/9/2015 at 19:44 (3,245 days old) by fan-of-fans (Florida)   |   | |
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Some of the washers in that Sears video look like they have LED lights reflecting in the tub. Do some of these have tub lights? It would be cool if they did. |
Post# 822708 , Reply# 51   5/9/2015 at 21:29 (3,245 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 826350 , Reply# 52   6/2/2015 at 19:22 (3,221 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 826352 , Reply# 53   6/2/2015 at 19:52 (3,221 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 826364 , Reply# 54   6/2/2015 at 21:01 (3,221 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 826407 , Reply# 55   6/3/2015 at 01:18 (3,221 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Post# 826473 , Reply# 56   6/3/2015 at 14:19 (3,221 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)   |   | |
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Post# 826474 , Reply# 57   6/3/2015 at 14:35 (3,221 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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This looks like a decent top loader that uses a bit more water than any He TL I have seen yet. I would like to see how this works with a full load, unless that is as full as you are supposed to use it.
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Post# 1196808 , Reply# 59   1/9/2024 at 17:49 by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis)   |   | |
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I don't think any of the models discussed in this nearly 9-year-old thread are even being made anymore, although I do believe that shortly after this, the dual action agitator replacements to these agipeller washers came onto the market. One of these was the WTW4816FW, which I had the first iteration of and now have a later version, that being the FW3. I'm not sure how much longer my washer will be out, as even ow it's only available at Lowes, but dual action machines are indeed still available.
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Post# 1196842 , Reply# 60   1/10/2024 at 00:33 by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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