Thread Number: 59116  /  Tag: Ranges, Stoves, Ovens
Better Because It's Gas...Best Because It's Caloric: Part Three
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Post# 816793   3/31/2015 at 21:11 (729 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Post# 816802 , Reply# 1   3/31/2015 at 22:32 (729 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well I had to wash the tub anyway.

 

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I finally got the chrome vent off. Had to snap the two remaining bolts since they were badly rusted.


Post# 816813 , Reply# 2   4/1/2015 at 00:53 (729 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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All clean now. The tabs holding the bowls had some sort of grease/rust stains that were very difficult to remove. Naval Jelly and Bar Keepers Friend got most of the stains off.

 

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As you can see, the degreaser dissolved all the grease, and most of the flat black paint of the vent grill. Nice piece of heavy aluminum.  It can be easily repainted.

 

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Post# 816821 , Reply# 3   4/1/2015 at 03:10 (729 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        


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That's Great Louis.

Just beautiful.

What will be the first thing you will cook when the stove is complete ?

Pot of Red Sauce ? BTW... do you call it Sauce or Gravy ?

My neighbor in Wood-Ridge Gloria Stoesser (nee: Naclario) had a UltraMatic Range and on Sundays in the warm weather before they installed 6 Coldspot Air conditioners in their house had a GE Twin Fan in the Kitchen Window. And the aroma of her Red Sauce used to waft through our block.
Everytime I see a UltraMatic, I think of Sundays in New Jersey and her Sauce.


Post# 816847 , Reply# 4   4/1/2015 at 07:14 (728 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hey thanks Eddie. I'm not sure WHAT I'm going to cook. When its done, after all this cleaning, I may just look at it lovingly and order take-out. LOL! Sauce of course. Gravy is a whole other ball game in my house!


Post# 816911 , Reply# 5   4/1/2015 at 13:09 (728 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
I LOVE IT !!!

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I can't tell you how many times I have gone to the store (s)spent close to a buck fifty or more, come home  with a car load of groceries, unpacked everything, couldn't decide what I wanted to make or just lost interest in dinner and ordered a Pizza.

 

None the less, what a Loving and Caring restoration.

 

Now I'll start a thread on...  Is it "Sauce or Gravy" ???


Post# 817201 , Reply# 6   4/3/2015 at 06:02 (726 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The grill/oven exhausts have been painted the correct satin paint. There are variations. Some Ultramatics have only the grill directly in front of the exhausts painted. The rest left in shiny aluminum.

 

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Post# 817522 , Reply# 7   4/5/2015 at 01:03 (725 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The Caloric crest before cleaning/painting. Just 2 colors, black and red.

 

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Post# 817750 , Reply# 8   4/6/2015 at 12:45 (723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Closer to completion.

 

All the crest needed was a cleaning.

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Some minor chips in the porcelain. Ordered some paint that won't yellow and is heat resistant. So we'll see.

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Post# 817755 , Reply# 9   4/6/2015 at 13:14 (723 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Oh Louis

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That Range is already Stunning.

Just screams Quality

Great Job.


Post# 817784 , Reply# 10   4/6/2015 at 16:03 (723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Eddie. I am hoping to get it finished by the end of this week.


Post# 817813 , Reply# 11   4/6/2015 at 21:01 (723 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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OMFG Louie, that is going to be stunning, gorgeous, awe-inspiring and I don't know what else!

 

And I'm just talking about the switch plate . . . ooh la la papa!


Post# 817814 , Reply# 12   4/6/2015 at 21:09 (723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The meat probe outlet. So far, haven't seen any meat probes that could plug in here. Pardon the Easy-Off.

 

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Post# 817815 , Reply# 13   4/6/2015 at 21:12 (723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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LOL Ralph! Thanks. That switch plate is from 1967. There are two of them, with the original lighted switches.


Post# 817817 , Reply# 14   4/6/2015 at 21:20 (723 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Meat probe?

 

I'm not touching that one . . .


Post# 817818 , Reply# 15   4/6/2015 at 21:21 (723 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Honestly I wish you would. BUT, I'm patient.


Post# 817846 , Reply# 16   4/7/2015 at 04:53 (722 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Meat Probe...

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Oh You Two !!! LOL

Please start, oh Please start. This should be good !!! LOL


Post# 817847 , Reply# 17   4/7/2015 at 05:15 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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What? It was an INNOCENT observation. What else am I suppose to call it? laughing


Post# 817848 , Reply# 18   4/7/2015 at 05:18 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
All you Caloric Ultramatic experts out there...

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I noticed the knob supposedly for the Ultra-Ray broiler is smooth. No markings. Is it suppose to be this way?


Post# 817852 , Reply# 19   4/7/2015 at 06:02 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
I know some of you have been wondering...

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This is what the Caloric will replace: A circa 1964 36" Slattery, made right here in Brooklyn. The factory was just a few streets away from my home. Built like a tank, and weighs almost as much. The image is not my actual range, but the same model. Mine is actually nicer. No chips on the porcelain and a hell of a lot more cleaner.

 

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Post# 817956 , Reply# 20   4/7/2015 at 15:02 (722 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
25 hamburger, 20 lamb chops....

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Is yours like the Caloric 75? I guess there weren't too many vegetarians in the 60s.

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Post# 817960 , Reply# 21   4/7/2015 at 15:55 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The Caloric 75 is a newer model than mine and a totally different configuration.


Post# 818000 , Reply# 22   4/7/2015 at 20:27 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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As some of you know, I like to go in deep. These are the LAST sections to be thoroughly cleaned.

 

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Post# 818012 , Reply# 23   4/7/2015 at 21:30 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Since I can never leave anything well enough alone, I've removed the rotisserie motor to clean and oil...

 

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Post# 818013 , Reply# 24   4/7/2015 at 21:46 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Robust construction. Clean inside, all gears and motor turn smoothly. Will lube the shaft for good measure.

 

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Post# 818018 , Reply# 25   4/7/2015 at 23:52 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Rotisserie Motor Test

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Some cleaning, a few drops of oil and it works just fine! Ignore the first 16 seconds. Used a flat screw driver instead of a phillips. (I need a good nights sleep). Now if I could ever find that spit rod.

 




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Post# 818022 , Reply# 26   4/8/2015 at 00:20 (722 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Going in deep and lubing the shaft are on my list of best practices.  Not necessarily in that order.

 

You were wise to tend to the rotisserie mechanism.  The one on my portable GE started screeching after I did a boneless leg of lamb in it, and it's going to take a total tear-down to extract it and lube it again.


Post# 818028 , Reply# 27   4/8/2015 at 01:05 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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"Going in deep and lubing the shaft are on my list of best practices.  Not necessarily in that order."

They are? We ought to compare notes then Ralph. tongue-out

That's the reason I removed the motor for a check-up. I hated the thought that I had installed the stove and all only to discover the rotisserie wasn't operational.


Post# 818030 , Reply# 28   4/8/2015 at 02:17 (722 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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When I go in deep...the zinc floor of the oven burner was a chore to remove. Needless to say, it was really filthy.

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I had to remove the Ultra-Ray broiler. The mounting bracket (top center) for the pilot light got bent during transit from Beltsville. So I had to straighten it out.

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The fine mesh of the Ultra-Ray is extremely fragile. Just a light touch from my finger and it started to crumble (lower right). I hope this doesn't effect it's performance.

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Post# 818038 , Reply# 29   4/8/2015 at 04:04 (721 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Good Lord

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It just gets better all the time.

So the Rotisserie is on the broiler side ? It utilizes the Ultra Ray Broiler ? That's awesome.


Post# 818041 , Reply# 30   4/8/2015 at 05:53 (721 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Eddie!

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Boy am I exhausted, but happy. I'm gonna be unconscious at work today. The rotisserie is indeed on the Ultra-ray side.


Post# 818042 , Reply# 31   4/8/2015 at 06:14 (721 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The zinc floor of the oven's burner has been scrubbed and reinstalled.

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The Ultra-ray is all clean.

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The oven is done, all clean.
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Post# 818066 , Reply# 32   4/8/2015 at 10:25 (721 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
So...

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There are 2 broilers ?

Post# 818074 , Reply# 33   4/8/2015 at 11:16 (721 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Better Than New

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Are you REALLY going to use this to prepare food?  After all this work and after getting this beauty looking soooo pristine, there's no way I'd do anymore than boil water on this stove.

 

lawrence


Post# 818078 , Reply# 34   4/8/2015 at 11:50 (721 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Louie, if necessary in the future, could you possibly use the fine mesh layer from a modern grill's rotisserie to retrofit the Ultra Ray?  I think our old Sunbeam or Front Avenue outdoor grill had a rotisserie burner that resembled the Ultra Ray -- at least on the surface.  It's something to consider if the mesh on the Ultra-Ray disintegrates with use -- and I'd be using that rotisserie option for sure!


Post# 818086 , Reply# 35   4/8/2015 at 13:17 (721 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Will you actually cook 25 hamburgers? 20 lamb chops?

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Or 2 whole chickens?

You have to get someone who looks like Jinx Falkenburg to "model" the range.


Post# 818100 , Reply# 36   4/8/2015 at 15:03 (721 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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@ Eddie, yes. The Ultra-ray and a conventional broiler under the oven.

@Lawrence, Thanks! Trust me after all the work, sleepless nights (I get on a roll and forget the time) cuts, aches, etc, I too thought I'd live by take-out. LOL! This wasn't a simple wipe down, this was a tear down. I've cleaned/serviced parts that haven't been touched since it was manufactured over 50 years ago.  I am so going to cook on this!smile

@Ralph. It certainly can be replaced. When I was reinstalling the Ultra-ray a small, dime sized piece fell off. I wonder if that mesh is available for purchase from other manufactures? Sorta' trim to fit.

@Bob. No Bob I don't plan to cook 25 burgers, 20 lamb chops, etc. That's what caterers are for.


Post# 818207 , Reply# 37   4/9/2015 at 06:15 (720 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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It's almost done, the porcelain chips have been painted. All that's left is to clean the oven racks and to reconnect some wires. Sunday is the gas line hook up.  Fingers crossed.


Post# 818275 , Reply# 38   4/9/2015 at 13:00 (720 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Yay!  I'm looking forward to pictures of this beauty in your kitchen.  It's going to transform the look in there, and it's going to transform your cooking experience too, compared to the Slattery.


Post# 818316 , Reply# 39   4/9/2015 at 19:32 (720 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I'm certain of it Ralph! I'll never forget seeing an ad for it years ago, I thought "Wow! Now that's a stove." I can just see myself taking some yummy casserole out of the oven, baking some Christmas cookies in December...I can't wait.


Post# 818317 , Reply# 40   4/9/2015 at 19:40 (720 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The Ultra-ray rack came out gleaming.

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The oven racks, unfortunately not so much. I thought it was carbon build-up, but no, the chrome has worn away from heavy use.  Bummer. The oven floor has seen better days. Big chips in the porcelain and some stains that won't budge. I definitely want to replace all these. I think these ovens were the same from 1955 to about 1967. So maybe I can find replacements.

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Post# 818319 , Reply# 41   4/9/2015 at 19:54 (720 days old) by philcoford (Maryland)        
Great work there

Almost too nice to use but I am happy to hear you do intend to cook with it. If you are like me, having a new old stove to use will cause weight gain! I can't wait to see some pictures of it in use. You have a great attention to detail, I love all the pictures.
Scott




Post# 818322 , Reply# 42   4/9/2015 at 20:14 (720 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Old Restaurant Trick for Oven Racks...

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Place the Racks in a Large Trash Bag being careful not to poke any holes in the bag.

 

Then pour in 1 Cup of Ammonia and seal the bag up tightly.

 

Leave over night.  The next day remove the racks and the carbon and grease flakes off. Guaranteed.

 

Louis that range is just stunning. I would love a picture of that range cooking it's first pot of "Gravy". LOL  I mean Red Sauce with Palpetti.


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Post# 818341 , Reply# 43   4/9/2015 at 21:46 (720 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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What a great idea Eddie! I will definitely try that when they get dirty again. Thanks! And yes there will be pictures of it cooking!


Post# 818684 , Reply# 44   4/11/2015 at 03:23 (719 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Before:

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Post# 818826 , Reply# 45   4/11/2015 at 16:59 (718 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Because the gas shut off valve is unreachable once the stove is in place,  I decided to add a shut off valve inside the stove. If anything were ever go south, the valve would be readily available.

 

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Post# 818839 , Reply# 46   4/11/2015 at 18:22 (718 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Shut-Off Valve

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Good thinking Louie.  It's just common sense.  I did the same thing when I piped in our dual fuel range, even though it was brand new.  Running down to the basement to shut things down could make the difference between avoiding a disaster -- or not.


Post# 818863 , Reply# 47   4/11/2015 at 20:10 (718 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Ralph. While I prefer gas to electric, I am very much leery about it. Still working on the knobs, and then, I'm done. Tomorrow is the big day.


Post# 819018 , Reply# 48   4/12/2015 at 21:37 (717 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well installation has been delayed. Something is causing a short. I'm going to have to go wire by wire to see whats causing it. Damn.

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Post# 819181 , Reply# 49   4/14/2015 at 00:56 (716 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I triple checked the wires, and still I am getting a short. I'm replacing all the wiring. You wanna' play? Let's play.

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Post# 819195 , Reply# 50   4/14/2015 at 04:41 (715 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
That thing!

Is beautiful!! Caloric made a really great product, I have never seen a Slattery, If you ever see a old gas stove around here it usually is a Hardwick, Caloric or Tappan.But electrics outnumber them 100 to 1.


Post# 819207 , Reply# 51   4/14/2015 at 06:44 (715 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Hans!

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Gas far outnumber electrics here. Even in the bigger appliance stores electrics are few. My dads store never sold electrics. Strictly gas. I think Slattery was a regional brand.


Post# 819225 , Reply# 52   4/14/2015 at 10:46 (715 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I just received this wonderful surprise in the mail today from Toploader55 (Eddie)

 

Caloric

 

An actual ad for a 1962 Caloric Ultramatic.  I'm going to scan, print and frame it. Thank you so much Eddie, it certainly brightened my day!


Post# 819687 , Reply# 53   4/17/2015 at 09:28 (712 days old) by stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        
He sent you a turkey?

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Nice! Painting it green was a good idea..


Post# 820398 , Reply# 54   4/22/2015 at 01:23 (708 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I tracked down the short. Now the clock stopped working. I connected it direct to be sure. It's humming again, and the buzzer goes off, but no time keeping. OMG, the idea of removing it once again from that console....yell


Post# 820406 , Reply# 55   4/22/2015 at 04:23 (707 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        


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You've gone this far.

Keep on Keepin' on.

I want to cook on that Range when it's done.

I remember a friend of the family's had a Ultramatic Wall Oven with the Ultra Ray Broiler. And that broiled a great steak.

My mouth is still watering from the aroma. And that was back in the 60s.


Post# 820451 , Reply# 56   4/22/2015 at 12:37 (707 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Oh Louie, you know that after all the work you've put into this stove, the clock needs to function properly.  It's going to bother you if you don't tend to it before you install the stove.

 

I suspect it's something simple.  As I recall, you have a spare assembly or two, so if necessary change out the whole thing and be done with it.


Post# 820462 , Reply# 57   4/22/2015 at 15:20 (707 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Oh absolutely Eddie, Ralph. Everyday a dead clock staring at me? Hell no. Tonight I'll remove it. Things are never easy huh?


Post# 820465 , Reply# 58   4/22/2015 at 15:27 (707 days old) by stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        
Love this thread..

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any rebuild/restoration stuff actually. There are some great ones here on AW.
Thanks for sharing with us.


Post# 820466 , Reply# 59   4/22/2015 at 15:47 (707 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Glad you like it Robert. You are very welcomed. smile


Post# 823031 , Reply# 60   5/12/2015 at 04:44 (687 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
And.........

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And.... ????

So what's up with the Range ?

Are you cooking "Gravy" on her yet ???


Post# 823041 , Reply# 61   5/12/2015 at 06:53 (687 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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This is going to be truly like new when you're done. I can't wait to see the finished product.

There is something about a perfectly clean, white porcelain cabinet that is just breathtaking - I remember this from working on the Maytag Dutch oven range I had for a while. It's so gratifying to know it's "clean down to the shine".


Post# 823647 , Reply# 62   5/15/2015 at 23:27 (684 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Sorry for the delay Eddie. Been way too busy as of late. Hope to be done with the Caloric  by the end of this week.

 

I couldn't agree with you more Gan! Thanks!

 

 


Post# 823675 , Reply# 63   5/16/2015 at 05:31 (683 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Oh Louis

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I know you're busy.

 

Just wanted to make sure you didn't throw the range out the window !!!  LOL


Post# 826001 , Reply# 64   5/31/2015 at 20:31 (668 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Well...............

 

Hmmmmmmmmm      ???????????????/


Post# 826639 , Reply# 65   6/4/2015 at 20:57 (664 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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I had to step back for a bit. Too much pressure from other areas in my life. But I am finally getting time for myself again. Tomorrow I remove the control panel to sort out this wiring nightmare.


Post# 826813 , Reply# 66   6/6/2015 at 09:47 (662 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        
Infra red

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Caloric kept the infra red broiler on up into the '90's.  When my parents switched over to gas range I bought my mom a 1992 Caloric self clean with sealed burners and it had the infra red broiler in it...had the screen on it and everything.  When it was lit it looked like a pretty red pillow....and it did a beautiful job for 22 years until the oven control board started going out and it cost too much to replace the board versus getting a brand new range...$400 for just the board.  I should have kept some of the parts off that range because I'm sure someone could have rigged it into another one. 

Sometimes I miss my pilot light BOL mid '90's Caloric that was in my house when I got it...it was old faithful.  I like your range too, looks very nice!


Post# 826819 , Reply# 67   6/6/2015 at 10:51 (662 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hey thanks Craig!


Post# 826850 , Reply# 68   6/6/2015 at 16:35 (662 days old) by midcentnurse (Lake Charles, La)        

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Granny had a caloric cooktop and gas oven all the way on the other side of the kitchen. Lesson learned in kitchen design for me, but anyway, it was the same cooktop Mary Tyler Moore had in the dick van dyke show. Notice the wife had the kitchen appliances, because they were hers! ;)
And our new house had a caloric CT originally. The two in the back were closer together and the fronts were farther making like a diagonal. Gone now tho :(


Post# 850999 , Reply# 69   11/11/2015 at 04:03 (504 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Here we go again...

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Back to this damn short. I am trying one more time, if I still can't find it, I'll have to call in a pro. I am determined to cook Thanksgiving dinner on this stove damn it!

 

 

My kingdom for a complete and clear electric schematic!


Post# 851257 , Reply# 70   11/12/2015 at 17:45 (503 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Yay !!!

 

Back at it huh ?

 

You'll find that short. I know you will.


Post# 853386 , Reply# 71   11/23/2015 at 23:21 (492 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well so far so good. No short. However the clocks motor is toast as I feared. Luckily I have a spare from a GE wall clock.

 

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HOWEVER I don't know where the hell this wire goes. It doesn't seem to go anywhere. There is an inverted "Y" on the roast timer, but no tab, and looking at the original pictures that wire wasn't there. There are no other tabs, save for the power tabs, that are empty.

 

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Post# 853389 , Reply# 72   11/23/2015 at 23:45 (492 days old) by stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        

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Where does it come from?


Post# 853390 , Reply# 73   11/23/2015 at 23:55 (492 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
". . . the clocks motor is toast . . ."

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Louie, how did that happen?  I thought you had installed a nice working rotor that was running quietly and keeping perfect time.

 

In any case, don't toss the bad rotor.  They're getting more and more difficult to find, and it might respond to the light bulb process if you run out of others to replace it with.


Post# 853405 , Reply# 74   11/24/2015 at 04:08 (491 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
The clock is fuctional again...

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Ralph, turned out it wasn't burned out, but gummed up again. I retried your "big, hot, nut" method. Worked like a charm.I really hope this doesn't happen again. That clock is a royal pain to remove.

 

As for the wayward wire, it belonged to a power tab. NO SHORTS!

 

I think this is it, barring any unforeseen circumstances, the Caloric goes in tonight. 


Post# 853462 , Reply# 75   11/24/2015 at 11:27 (491 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
YAY!

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Louie, I think as long as the clock will be running continuously, the rotor won't have a chance to get gummed up from sitting idle.

 

We're going to want to see pix of that spectacular range's inaugural Thanksgiving performance!


Post# 853464 , Reply# 76   11/24/2015 at 11:37 (491 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Yay !!!

 

All Right Louis !!!

 

Can't wait to see a pic with "stuff" cooking.


Post# 853493 , Reply# 77   11/24/2015 at 15:09 (491 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta Georgia )        

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Love that green Caloric - 1962...such a color offered? Y/N?

Excited to see it installed and working...what a coool stove.


Post# 853678 , Reply# 78   11/25/2015 at 19:39 (490 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Feeeling pissed and disappointed.

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Well after installing the clock, it AGAIN stopped working. I connected it directly, dead as a door nail. It's going to have to wait until Friday, when I can uninstall it. I am switching out the motor, I'm not sure what is wrong. No leads are broken. I can only imagine something gunks up rather quickly after a short time stopped. At least the short has not returned. Sigh.


Post# 853680 , Reply# 79   11/25/2015 at 19:41 (490 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Phil, they did come in green, even black, which looked particularly striking.


Post# 854411 , Reply# 80   11/30/2015 at 19:30 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Well, still stuck with the clock...literally. It hums, timer buzzes but the clock won't run. I tried warming it up again but did not add any oil. I added last time and it worked. Still dead. This is the only thing keeping me from installing the stove tonight.


Post# 854446 , Reply# 81   11/30/2015 at 21:14 (485 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
LOUIE --

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Check your washermail!


Post# 854457 , Reply# 82   11/30/2015 at 22:32 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks to Ralph reminding me, I switched rotors with the one Bill was kind enough to send me. Now the clock is working. BUT, I still have the timer alarm sounding (at low volume). It won't turn off, just gets louder when I pull the knob out. Any suggestions? Still on for an install tonight.


Post# 854466 , Reply# 83   11/30/2015 at 23:24 (485 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Louie, I sent you one person's experience with alarm hum via washermail.

 

I have vague memories about dealing with this humming situation.  IIRC, I poked around with a non-metallic object to find what was making the noise, then made an adjustment, which could be as simple as loosening a screw or gently and slightly bending a tab or some such component of the alarm buzzer mechanism.


Post# 854468 , Reply# 84   11/30/2015 at 23:25 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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As Ralph suggested, I tightened a few screws and voila, the humming virtually vanished. OK, the stove is going in. Hopefully when I light the 5 pilot lights I won't loose my eyebrows...or worse.


Post# 854469 , Reply# 85   11/30/2015 at 23:31 (485 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        

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Carnegie Museum of Art here in Pittsburgh is doing an exhibit of the industrial designer Peter Mueller-Munk and they have a Caloric range that he designed in a seafoam color (it might be a little older than the range above) If you are in the area, you might want to see the exhibit. More links within the one I provide.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO neptunebob's LINK


Post# 854470 , Reply# 86   11/30/2015 at 23:59 (485 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Yay!

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And now the anticipation over pictures builds!


Post# 854471 , Reply# 87   12/1/2015 at 00:16 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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This stove is cursed. When I connect the clock directly to a plug, it works fine, when I connect it the the tabs on the stove, it's dead. When I connect something else to those same tabs on the stove (eg stove outlet), it works. WTF???

 


Post# 854474 , Reply# 88   12/1/2015 at 00:28 (485 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Sounds like the connectors on the clock don't like the tabs on the stove.  Would crimping be an option to improve the connection?  Can you post pix of the tabs and the clock's connectors?


Post# 854478 , Reply# 89   12/1/2015 at 00:46 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Here ya go...

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Palm Springs commercial photography

Palm Springs commercial photography

Palm Springs commercial photography

 

Those are new wires, it was doing the same thing with the old wires as well.


Post# 854480 , Reply# 90   12/1/2015 at 01:14 (485 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Very strange

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So the clock gets its power from the tabs, which it connects to via the wire nuts?

 

If that's the arrangement, do you have power on the tab wire ends at the wire nuts?

 

I wonder if one of the wires to the clock's coil has an issue, and when the clock is installed and connected to the wire nuts, it positions the coil's wires such that a connection is broken on one of them.  You might want to pull the clock, connect it to a known reliable power source and gently jiggle the clock's wires to see if power is interrupted.


Post# 854481 , Reply# 91   12/1/2015 at 01:21 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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When I plug the clock directly to an outlet, it works fine. I just tie the plugs wire in with the nuts. I even tried inserting the plugs wire directly into the female connectors, it works too. It just doesn't work when I plug into the stoves tab. But the tabs work if something else is connected. I'm telling you it's cursed.


Post# 854483 , Reply# 92   12/1/2015 at 01:28 (485 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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So when you say the tabs work, do you mean when other things are connected directly to the tabs, or via the wire nuts at the ends of those same wires while they're still connected to the tabs?

 

I'm outta here until morning, so will check back then.


Post# 854485 , Reply# 93   12/1/2015 at 01:37 (485 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The tabs work if I connect anything else. Sleep well and thanks!


Post# 854639 , Reply# 94   12/1/2015 at 22:23 (484 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The issue has been resolved. Turns out I was ready the electrical schematic all wrong. The order of the wires was being placed in the wrong tabs. Everything is working now, including the clock. Now off to remove the Maytag and the Slattery. Keep your fingers crossed. Hopefully no gas leaks.  Pictures to follow.


Post# 854648 , Reply# 95   12/1/2015 at 23:15 (484 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Yay!

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We love easy fixes!

 

 


Post# 854680 , Reply# 96   12/2/2015 at 10:11 (483 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Almost there...

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OK, some minor stuff, I hope. The fifth burner's pilot light does not work. My dad says it's just clogged. No gas smell. The oven, has a pilot light, but the burner won't catch on. The pilot light gets a lot bigger, and a rod starts to glow, but that's it. I suppose something else that's clogged. I took the clock out again, the low hum was really annoying me. A little adjusting, now it's utterly quiet. Pictures? Not until I fix those burner issues later today. But I must say, it looks scrumptious! OK, OK, here's a rear shot after I closed it up. 

 

Palm Springs commercial photography

 

 

 

 


Post# 854687 , Reply# 97   12/2/2015 at 11:00 (483 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)        
Louie

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nice backside!

 

lawrence


Post# 854730 , Reply# 98   12/2/2015 at 17:09 (483 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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No clog for 5th burners pilot light. Looks like I may have to follow the gas line to see what's going one. Perhaps the pilot light flame adjustment screw is closed. Nevertheless I shudder to think I'll have to pull the stove out and remove the top to do this. Haven't touched the oven yet. It just never ends. yell


Post# 854731 , Reply# 99   12/2/2015 at 17:19 (483 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Oh my you have come so far with this Caloric.  Louis the one you have is very  similar to one owned by one of my very favorite Aunt's.  You know the Aunt's that tolerate and entertain an "appliance kid".   You have a lot of people out here pulling for you.  This is a fun thread. I think things will now fall quickly into place.  It is a beautiful Caloric.  Art


Post# 854774 , Reply# 100   12/2/2015 at 21:56 (483 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Ill bet..

The safety valve in the oven is bad, If the pilot is increasing but no main flame ,its probably the safety, I don't know the proper name for it, but John will know.What happens is the increased pilot heats up the sensor causing the valve to open, when the thermostat is satisfied, the pilot returns to normal ,the sensor cools and the valve shuts.


Post# 854780 , Reply# 101   12/2/2015 at 22:30 (483 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Thanks Hans...

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Oven off:

Palm Springs commercial photography

 

Oven on:

Palm Springs commercial photography

 

I have a spare unit, in case it needs to be replaced.


Post# 854781 , Reply# 102   12/2/2015 at 22:33 (483 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks alr, nice to know. I'm so amazed that issues still keep popping up. Now the panel switch for the oven light went out. And I know this is something you can't get a Lowes or Home Depot. Sigh.


Post# 854813 , Reply# 103   12/3/2015 at 06:16 (482 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
So Close...

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I Louis.

 

The Safety Pilot Assembly is called a Thermo Couple.

 

This looks familiar as it happens in the restaurant on Fryers, Ovens when the Thermo Couple goes bad.

 

There should be easy to replace.


Post# 854859 , Reply# 104   12/3/2015 at 12:41 (482 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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I was wondering if what was being described was a thermocouple issue because that's what it sounded like to me too, Eddie.  I just couldn't see that component in the pictures above.

 

If that's all it is, they're easy to find at any hardware store and it's a simple fix.  Depending on the system, the thermocouple has either a heatproof lead coming off it with a couple of fork connectors, or a length of small diameter copper tubing (like for a pilot flame) with a compression fitting.

 

Louie, pull yours and take it in to match up with the ones on card hangers at the store.  It's been a long time since I had to replace one, but it's probably a < $10 part.


Post# 854872 , Reply# 105   12/3/2015 at 14:20 (482 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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The fifth burner is operational again. Turned out , the set screw was turn all the way "off". I suppose the prior owners wanted to save gas and turned it off. In addition, the burner was clogged.

 

It is indeed the thermocouple. I will switch it out on Saturday. Also I heard of a place were I can get the switch for the oven light.


Post# 854894 , Reply# 106   12/3/2015 at 18:15 (482 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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A quick observation. Now that all 5 pilot lights are lit, the stove's top sure is warm, hell, hot in some areas. The Slattery only had one hot spot in the center, here there are three.

 

Oh yeah, one more thing, did I mention the Ultra-Ray broiler works beautifully? laughing


Post# 854901 , Reply# 107   12/3/2015 at 19:00 (482 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Love it!

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I would be rotisserating a lot if I had an Ultra-Ray!


Post# 854918 , Reply# 108   12/3/2015 at 21:01 (482 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta Georgia )        

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Looking good Louie!

Post# 854920 , Reply# 109   12/3/2015 at 21:39 (482 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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"I would be rotisserating a lot if I had an Ultra-Ray!"

 

Me too, but I still don't have the spit rod. frown


Post# 854921 , Reply# 110   12/3/2015 at 21:39 (482 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks Phil!


Post# 854971 , Reply# 111   12/4/2015 at 08:30 (481 days old) by customline (pennsylvania)        
Well now !!!!!!

I have an electric oven with a rotisserie and I use that a lot but the gas oven rotisserie has to be even better !!!!! I'm so jealous. You have a great unit here.

Post# 855175 , Reply# 112   12/5/2015 at 14:34 (480 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
Thermocouple

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I need to know what exactly I need to change out. The part I had was useless. I understand the part is still readily available. So it's a universal part? Anyone?

 

 


Post# 855177 , Reply# 113   12/5/2015 at 14:53 (480 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Thermocouple

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I went back and checked your pictures and it's visible in post #818030 dated 4/8/15, which may display as reply #27 depending on who might have who hidden.

 

The rod above the pilot flame is the thermocouple.  It looks like it has aluminum tubing that leads to a fitting below the burner, but I can't be sure.  Replacements should be easy to find at any hardware store, appliance parts retailer, or plumbing/heating supply, and I would think it's somewhat universal.  It might not look exactly like what's in there now, but as long as the pilot flame makes contact with it, it should work.

 

My guess is that the new part will come with tubing or an insulated lead, depending on what you're replacing.  If it's tubing, you may need to cut off the excess portion to fit, or coil up the excess if there's room.


Post# 855181 , Reply# 114   12/5/2015 at 16:12 (480 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Im Afraid

The part you need comes as an assembly, the valve must be replaced also.


Post# 855203 , Reply# 115   12/5/2015 at 18:57 (480 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Why on earth would Caloric be so arrogant as to make the user replace a perfectly good valve if only the thermocouple failed?   That sounds more like a situation you'd encounter on a Chinese stove from 2015, not one made in USA in 1958. 

 

Thermocouple failure is not uncommon.  Valves on the other hand can last for several decades, and cost a lot more to replace than a thermocouple.

 

Louie, I really hope you can fix this problem without having to seek out and pay big bucks for a whole new valve.

 

I saw this thermocouple at OSH today.  It sure looks a lot like what's on your stove now.

 


Post# 855279 , Reply# 116   12/6/2015 at 05:30 (479 days old) by retro-man (nashua,nh)        

You should not have to replace the gas valve. The only thing is you might need the original fitting from the old one. Just transfer the fitting, if the new one is not the same size. I just replace one on a gas furnace and on a gas log fireplace. Same one fit both. The are pretty much universal. These were purchased at a plumbing supply house and they had them on a display.

Jon


Post# 855285 , Reply# 117   12/6/2015 at 07:28 (479 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Hey thanks guys, I really appreciate all the advise. I located a large appliance parts store here in Brooklyn. I'm heading out there tomorrow. I'll be posting the results here. Really anxious to wrap this up.

 

I know I mentioned it before, but that stove is putting out a lot of heat, so much so, the kitchen feels very warm. I had to open the kitchen window. I know a few out there have a Caloric like mine. I was wondering whether this was normal. 


Post# 855302 , Reply# 118   12/6/2015 at 08:57 (479 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Everyone, I am thrilled to see you getting this range up and working, a few points

 

This range DOES NOT HAVE a thermocouple, almost no home gas ranges used TCs after about 1961. The part shown in reply #115 is not used any where on this [ or any home gas range after about 1961 ] Range.

 

Hans is correct, you need a complete oven safety valve. [ note these oven safety valves contain mercury, dispose of the old one at a facility that recycles mercury ]

 

All the top burner pilots should be turned down as low as possible to not only save gas but to also reduce the extensive damage that the combustion byproducts from these small inefficient burning flames will do to the underside of the range top and everything else under the cook-top. I would differently consider keeping the center pilot turned off like our former customer did.

 

Can't wait to see some of the great cooking that this range is going to do, the Ultra-Ray broiler rotisserie would be my favorite feature for sure.

 

John L.


Post# 855311 , Reply# 119   12/6/2015 at 10:55 (479 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Thanks for the info John. Well this seems it's going to be a costly repair. But it's the price for being MCM. All the pilots are quite tiny. I figure my carbon footprint is far smaller than most, so they're gonna stay lit. Besides, what's the purpose of being modern if you have to light a burner with a match? tongue-out


Post# 855329 , Reply# 120   12/6/2015 at 12:32 (479 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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I guess the question now is, "Are oven safety valves generally universal?" 

 

If so, another might be, "Could the valve from the Slattery be installed on the Caloric?"  If the valve is specific to this Caloric, locating one could present a challenge.

 

And now I'm curious.  Is the safety valve the thing with the red button?  What is that thing that looks like a thermocouple positioned above the pilot?

 

My experience with old gas range systems is limited, so this valve situation is all new to me.


Post# 855346 , Reply# 121   12/6/2015 at 14:03 (479 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
If it has

A red button...that DOES have a thermocouple, what is on the Caloric was called the Lo Temp oven control, it cycles the oven off and on instead of modulating the flame, making 140 degree holding heat possible.


Post# 855776 , Reply# 122   12/9/2015 at 05:44 (476 days old) by retro-man (nashua,nh)        

I have been thinking about your problem for a few days. I don't believe it is a thermo coupling problem. If the thermo was bad it would shut the gas off completely. This is the purpose of it. It seems to be something other that this IMO.

Jon


Post# 855780 , Reply# 123   12/9/2015 at 06:53 (476 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Actually Jon, this oven doesn't have a thermocouple. Tomorrow my maintenance guy is coming over to fix the oven. I'm just too swamped with work these past few days.


Post# 855781 , Reply# 124   12/9/2015 at 06:54 (476 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Therm o-couple ? Again there is NO TC on this range, There is NO 100% gas shut-off for ANY of the pilot lights, if any pilots go out the tiny amount of gas keeps flowing.


Post# 855783 , Reply# 125   12/9/2015 at 07:00 (476 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
The Slattery...

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This is the stove that was replaced with the Caloric. A 1962, 36"Slattery made right here in Brooklyn. Nothing fancy, as basic as you can get. All steel/cast iron. Porcelain inside and out. It has been working flawlessly. I already have a buyer for it. A lot of memories. The empty space is where the Maytag A-107 currently resides.

 

Palm Springs commercial photography

 

Palm Springs commercial photography

 

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Post# 855836 , Reply# 126   12/9/2015 at 14:24 (476 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Slattery

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Nice and cozy with the burners snuggled together so the pots and pans can keep each other warm.

 

But -- once you have Caloric ready to roll (well, if you had the spit assembly), I think it will be love at first light.  You'll never look back.


Post# 856136 , Reply# 127   12/11/2015 at 10:52 (474 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Still waiting for the oven's part.

 

Nevertheless, will be posting some pictures tonight of the stove.Stay tuned.


Post# 856140 , Reply# 128   12/11/2015 at 11:55 (474 days old) by gusherb (Chicago/NWI)        

The pilots on the Caloric appliances in my grandma's kitchen have always kept it very warm. Her favorite place to sit was in there by the stove because of that.

Post# 856147 , Reply# 129   12/11/2015 at 13:20 (474 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Natural gas, just like other energy sources, was cheap back in the 1950s.  I guess five pilot lights wasn't considered excessive (and that's just on the cooktop), either from a consumptive or heat-producing perspective.  If that Caloric was positioned under a giant hood, I suppose most of the heat would waft up the flue.

 

On the mid '30s trash & gas Wedgewood I had, there was one pilot in the center with flash tubes leading to burners in all four corners, they all lit reliably, and that single tiny flame didn't generate any noticeable heat.  While that arrangement isn't possible with a center griddle burner, it seems to me that Caloric could have cut down the number of cooktop pilots to two through the use of flash tubes.

 

Here's a picture of a similar Wedgewood.  The cover plate over the center pilot appears to be missing.  The '60s Kenmore below demonstrates how Caloric could have used a single pilot for each pair of burners.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/jUwAAOSwIBBUZoND/$_1.JPG

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Post# 856257 , Reply# 130   12/12/2015 at 07:19 (473 days old) by Combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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This gas range does use flash tubes there's only three pilots for the top of the range.

Post# 856285 , Reply# 131   12/12/2015 at 12:42 (473 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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John, thanks for clarifying.  I must have missed that among the photos Louie has posted of the restoration process. 


Post# 858040 , Reply# 132   12/23/2015 at 17:09 (462 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Having trouble (Surprise!) with the burner with a brain. It won't stay lit. I can put it on any temperature, it will slowly turn off.

 

The guy who was supposed to fix the oven is MIA. I'll have to find someone else. So no Caloric oven for Christmas. Thank God my sister lives next door, so we can use her stove's oven.

 

The Slattery may have been plain Jane, but it sure worked flawlessly. Sigh.


Post# 858048 , Reply# 133   12/23/2015 at 17:28 (462 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Louie, you're upgrading from a reliable Falcon to a Lincoln that's loaded down with things to go wrong, but I think you'll be pleased with your decision once the troublesome issues have been resolved.

 

Have you checked with (gulp) Modern to see if they might have the safety valve?   It seems to me that if so many stoves have used them since the early '60s, there should be replacements out there somewhere.

 

Maybe John can advise on the brain-dead burner.

 

Great achievements generally don't happen without a healthy dose of perseverance. 


Post# 858049 , Reply# 134   12/23/2015 at 17:29 (462 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Where's the Slattery ?


Post# 858050 , Reply# 135   12/23/2015 at 17:30 (462 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Post# 858053 , Reply# 136   12/23/2015 at 17:35 (462 days old) by Combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Burner with a brain operation

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On these burners you set the flame size then turn the dial back to the temperature you want to maintain. The flame should go on and off completely as the temperature is reached. There is a standby pilot next to the burner that comes on when you start the burner that will relight the burner when it comes on again.

Other than having to clean out the standby pilot orifice I have almost never seen one of the gas burner with a brain doesn't work beautifully.


Post# 858056 , Reply# 137   12/23/2015 at 17:36 (462 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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One down.

 

Now let's find this thing a safety valve!


Post# 859727 , Reply# 138   1/3/2016 at 04:20 (451 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Silly me, I read the manual and the Thermo-Set burner works perfectly now. You really can't burn anything.


Post# 859728 , Reply# 139   1/3/2016 at 04:21 (451 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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Eddie, the Slattery is still with me. I guess no one is really interested. But I can't stand the thought of tossing it.


Post# 859729 , Reply# 140   1/3/2016 at 04:27 (451 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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A video on what happens when I turn on the oven in the Caloric. The standing pilot seems so tiny, and no "yellow" center. The flame increases and spreads when I turn the gas on, but oddly enough, goes out if I turn the knob to broil or any other temperature other than "Keep Warm" or 425-450F. You'll see it in the video. What's the rod the glows red? Should it glow red entirely?

 





Post# 859738 , Reply# 141   1/3/2016 at 07:07 (451 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Coloric Range

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YAY Glad you figured out how to use the Burner-With-A-Brain, I think this is why most people would tell me that the BWAB burner did not work was because they never figured out how to use it. And because stove manufactures only installed one of these neat burner control systems on their ranges because of cost it was always the odd burner and most users did not learn to use it, I always thought it a shame that the stoves did not come with two, three, or even all four burners with this great system.


Post# 859754 , Reply# 142   1/3/2016 at 09:54 (451 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta Georgia )        

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Louie - it's amazing what reading a manual can uncover, right? Congratulations, you are now "cooking with gas", as the expression goes. Really happy you can now think about using this beauty!

oh...

About the red rod : The 1964 Ultramatic Caloric Range was fitted with a precursor of the illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator! Caution or you will get the elusive Marvin the Martian's "Kaboom".

what? :-)


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Post# 860068 , Reply# 143   1/4/2016 at 18:37 (450 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Coloric Range--Proper Oven Operation

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Hi Louie, and a BIG Happy New Year to You, it is neat to see you getting this cool old range restored after it sat in my shop all those years.

 

The oven pilot looks fine when it comes on and it is heating the oven safety valves properly, so as discussed before you very likely need a need oven safety valve [ the one other possibly is the oven thromostat is not opening the main gas flow to the oven safety valve when you first turn the oven on, this can be tested by loosening the big gas line coming into the SV and then briefly turn on the oven thromostat and you should have a strong flow of gas, blow out the oven pilot while doing this ].

 

The other problem you seem to be having is the pre-heat pilot flame should stay on at any thermostat setting until the oven temperature is up to that setting and then it turns off the larger pilet pre-heat gas flow then the red hot SV bulb cools and shuts off the main gas burner till more heat is needed. So you have a thromostat problem as well, it may not be serious but at the least it needs to be dissembled and cleaned or rebuilt.


Post# 860177 , Reply# 144   1/5/2016 at 04:42 (449 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        
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Happy New Year John! Would you happen to know where I can find the part number of the safety valve?


Post# 861551 , Reply# 145   1/13/2016 at 03:24 (441 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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A rather frighting development. I started to smell gas last night. Not a strong smell, but it was there. I immediately turned off the shut-off valve I had installed and called the gas company (National Grid). They promptly sent over two guys and they discovered the leak; the right rear burner valve, (thankfully, everything else was fine). He told me that it just may need some valve grease. I certainly hope so, if not, I think I have a spare valve. Anyway, even though I can test it for leaks with soapy water, the tech told me he would be happy to come back and check with his detector. Oh, did I mention he was gorgeous?

 

Oh boy, I get to open up the stove yet again.


Post# 861631 , Reply# 146   1/13/2016 at 13:50 (441 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
". . . did I mention he was gorgeous?"

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Every cloud has a silver lining.


Post# 876576 , Reply# 147   4/11/2016 at 13:48 (352 days old) by Ultramatic (New York City)        

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