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Thread Number: 59389
/ Tag: Vintage Dishwashers
What fits in a KA one arm wonder dishwasher? |
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Post# 819883 4/18/2015 at 13:33 (3,288 days old) by chachp  (North Little Rock, AR) |
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 We talk a lot about how careful we need to be when loading the one arm wonder (pre Model 18) KA dishwashers. And while I agree 100% with Bob and others that there have likely been millions of times these machines have been run with a 1/2 empty bottom rack because the top was full of bowls and pans and other things that would block the water to the top. Or a 1/2 empty top rack because of the large items we may have loaded on the bottom rack and had to leave the upper basket empty above the large item.
So for the heck of it I decided to photograph a typical load at my house all stacked up on the counter just to see how much actually was in one of these loads. When loaded correctly these machines really hold a lot of dishes. Truth be told on this load there were still a couple of spots I could have put a plate or two on the bottom rack but URGH, I was out of space on the top. | ||
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Post# 819886 , Reply# 1 4/18/2015 at 14:27 (3,288 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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 Wow Chach!! Perfect demonstration of why these are DISHwashers. When loaded like this KAs do hold a ton, more than many of its contemporary relatives of the day. I've always been fascinated by all your various dishes when you've posted photos from your house. Very pretty dish sets. But how long to accumulate all that? What about all the utensils, pots, pans, bowls, ... needed to prepare meals. I know you do a tremendous amount of cooking due to your food allergies kind of like I do myself. And thanks for the nod of the hat to my 1-arm wonder rants of years ago. | ||
| Post# 819919 , Reply# 3 4/18/2015 at 17:58 (3,288 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
Extra Credit There has never been a doubt that these hold a lot and clean well.
It just depends on the wares you are putting in.
That being said, I think it's time to run the Regency and the Superba 55.
They have been resting since last summer, so time to play and get creative.
Nice Job Chach with the BobLoad | ||
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Post# 819933 , Reply# 5 4/18/2015 at 19:53 (3,288 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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OK: | ||
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Post# 819936 , Reply# 6 4/18/2015 at 20:00 (3,288 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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KA Single Arm DW Loading Nice job loading, but again where are all the pots and pans, also the dishes in your load are not nearly as dirty as the dishes we wash everyday, I can see a lot of things in the top rack that would not have gotten clean if they had been really dirty.
Fun machines however, I have a KDS-16 in our weekend house and like it, but we end up putting all the pots and pans etc in the WP PC machine in the main kitchen. | ||
| Post# 819973 , Reply# 8 4/19/2015 at 05:00 (3,287 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Good Point Hans
So realistically,
You could wash two loads in the time it takes a eyedropper spritzer to do a 2 hour wash. Yup, that's about right. I remember on Holidays when we had company, our Princess would run two or three cycles. We would by pass the dry cycle and just let the dishes flash dry in like 5 minutes. They were still too hot after 5 minutes to handle. | ||
| Post# 819976 , Reply# 9 4/19/2015 at 05:22 (3,287 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c ) | ||
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You got it! And they will be clean and DRY! | ||
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Post# 819984 , Reply# 10 4/19/2015 at 06:13 (3,287 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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Where are the Pots and Pans and bowls? This is a typical load for us if I want to really fill the machine. It really does make the point that if you want to load the larger items you'll likely run the machine before it's completely full.
To answer Bobs' question about my dishes. I am a kitchen anything junkie. Have been my entire life. I don't know how many sets of dishes I have but there are quite a few and I swap them in and out of the kitchen. Some by season, some just when I get tired of them and want a change. Some of those I've collected have been inspired by those I've seen here that belong to other members. I also have a lot of vintage cookware that I have collected over the years. I won't put any of that in the dishwasher. I use vintage Asta everyday that is enamel over steel and a lot of LeCreuset that I generally won't wash by machine either. I have a few pieces I'll put in but for the most part I do not. So my choice is I don't use my things or I use them and wash them by hand. I choose to use them or what's the point of having them? I just also choose to keep them nice. Hand washing is therapeutic to my other half!! Aren't I lucky? LOL.
As far as how dirty the dishes are....I don't pre-rinse anything. We've been eating lighter lately because I wanted to drop a few pounds I've put on over the winter so we're eating more salads and lighter foods that I guess don't produce dishes as dirty looking as other foods might.
As far as how clean the dishes get on top I don't really have that issue with this machine if I load carefully. The biggest complaint I have about the 15 is it doesn't have the constant rinse on top so I will sometimes get little baked on surprises on top of the dishes on the top rack. If I did pre-rinse I probably wouldn't see so much of that. The 17 does a better job in that area because of the CR in my opinion.
I'll accept that challenge Steve! Pictures will follow. | ||
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Post# 820000 , Reply# 11 4/19/2015 at 09:12 (3,287 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Your kitchen looks like a whole day's fun! Good coffee, good food and fun dishwashers to clean it all up.
I have a KDS-18 in my kitchen for a daily-driver and of all the dishwashers I've played with and had in and out of my kitchen, I always come back to a KitchenAid. It is surprising how much the two-arm machines hold as well, I just unloaded mine this morning and should have taken pics. It was one of those "inadvertent BobLoad" days and I had bowls stacked as high as the plates and leaning on anything that would hold them up. Always spotless and never a reject. You're right about the Constant Rinse sprayer at the top, a very good improvement especially in the single arm machines. I love that blue Vita-Mix - so pretty. | ||
| Post# 820012 , Reply# 12 4/19/2015 at 10:49 (3,287 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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It just boggles my mind... (It doesn't take much anymore to boggle my mind. What's left of it...)
Why, Why, Why KitchenAid dropped the Constant Rinse. I know the originals hung down way too low, so people would put something tall in the center of the top rack and snap them off. They were a very flimsy part which is surprising for Hobart.
But I can't get over the fact that they never redesigned that constant rinse with a more sturdy part.
That is my biggest complaint with the 19 and up series machines. The 19-23 clean well, but there is always the risk of Yibbles on the top of glasses and coffee mugs. I like my KDS-20 but it's always a crap shoot on the Top Rack when you open that door after washing a BobLoad.
Now it boggles my mind why you can't get a decent dishwasher that cleans in under 1 hour. It Broke my Heart when Hobart sold KitchenAid. A Very Very Sad Day in Appliance Land. | ||
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Post# 820052 , Reply# 13 4/19/2015 at 16:08 (3,287 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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SHHH don't tell anyone... | ||
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Post# 820055 , Reply# 15 4/19/2015 at 16:23 (3,287 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Constant Rinse | ||
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Post# 820126 , Reply# 16 4/20/2015 at 08:12 (3,286 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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I still have the original constant rinsers in both of my KDS18s. I guess it's the difference between use and abuse. | ||
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Post# 820130 , Reply# 17 4/20/2015 at 08:30 (3,286 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR) |
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I am much more careful now. | ||
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