Thread Number: 59731
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Post# 823616 , Reply# 1   5/15/2015 at 19:58 (3,261 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Given the tub size and such, 46.5 gallons sounds about right for a full load. They're being purposely deceptive with the volume of water to appease the tree huggers. Face reality, it ain't gonna be water wise. It's a top loader that fills with water. Personally, no one in their right mind should use that "normal" (eco) cycle if they just have to have a traditional top loader. My Lady Shredmore used 46 - 48 gallons for a typical normal cycle. |
Post# 823629 , Reply# 3   5/15/2015 at 21:09 (3,261 days old) by jerrod6 (Southeastern Pennsylvania)   |   | |
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How much did 4,800 gallons of water cost you for water. How much was 4,800 gallons for Sewer? |
Post# 823662 , Reply# 6   5/16/2015 at 01:49 (3,260 days old) by washer111 ()   |   | |
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Could you please tell us why you aren't the Minister for Environment? |
Post# 823666 , Reply# 7   5/16/2015 at 02:25 (3,260 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 823795 , Reply# 9   5/16/2015 at 22:03 (3,260 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)   |   | |
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Do a good job at reducing water usage in a top load machine when used correctly.
My mother had a solid tub Simpson Fluid drive (4 speed programmed - Leon has one) that, if memory serves correctly, used 13 Imp gallons per fill, so 26 gallons per wash cycle. Capacity was noted at 10lb
90% of the wash water could be reused if your tub was set up correctly, with heavy soils settling to the bottom.
Mum used hers like this, topping up the detergent with another 1/3 dose:
Whites - hot wash Suds save Coloureds - warm wash
sheets - hot wash suds save sheets - warm wash
Towels -warm suds save Dads work clothes (builder) - warm wash
Over the 6 loads of washing it was possible to reduce water usage from around 700 litres to around 540 litres. 90 litres is still a significant amount of water to wash 4.5kg/10lb of washing, but puts it on-par with most front load machines from the 1980's.
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Post# 823829 , Reply# 11   5/17/2015 at 06:26 (3,259 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Anyone who knows anything about anything other than subterfuge is immediately disqualified as minister of anything anywhere. (Is that the most 'anys' you've ever seen in one sentence?)
Twinnys: I'm no eco-nazi but I'd just as soon use no more resources than it takes to get the job done. So yeah I run a twinny. I can do my entire laundry with something on the order of 15 gallons including a fill rinse. And if you drank the final rinse/spin water it wouldn't hurt you. No automatic ever invented can do that. So any eco-nazi using an automatic is not only a loudmouth phony but a lazy one to boot. "YOU should save water but *I* can't be bothered." |
Post# 823892 , Reply# 15   5/17/2015 at 14:43 (3,259 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 823894 , Reply# 16   5/17/2015 at 15:04 (3,259 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Suds saver washers had two drain hoses. One for the wash drain (if selected to "save" suds and the hose used to drain the rinse water. If "save" wasn't selected, then the hose used for rinse water was also used by wash water. The suds save hose was selected by a diverter valve. Also, one shouldn't have added the next load of laundry until after the sudsy water was returned for the subsequent load. Otherwise, too harsh on clothing because usually the agitator agitated while suds were being returned. |
Post# 823963 , Reply# 18   5/18/2015 at 04:06 (3,258 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 823968 , Reply# 19   5/18/2015 at 06:07 (3,258 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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No, I am retired, human work is a SURPLUS. I have LOTS of it. Whereas money for supplies and utilities is a paucity, to be supplanted by surplus time whenever possible.
Yeah it just happens to save the whales. As if 5 gallons weren't a teaspoon to a whale. Or as if whales didn't do just fine for a half million years before I was born. Besides, what did they ever do for me? Not only is the twin the least resource-intensive way for me to meet my laundry obligation, it also escapes being confiscated as contraband in my retirement poorhouse. You launder for SIX people? Then our perspectives are going to differ, now aren't they? |
Post# 823988 , Reply# 21   5/18/2015 at 07:52 (3,258 days old) by maylingsmom ()   |   | |
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I emailed Speed Queen about the amount of water in my AWN432 for each fill level and this is what they replied: The approximate water usage for each is: Gallons: Mini 16.3 Small 18.0 Medium 19.7 X-Large 21.5 |
Post# 823990 , Reply# 23   5/18/2015 at 08:00 (3,258 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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Post# 823993 , Reply# 24   5/18/2015 at 08:14 (3,258 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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Post# 823998 , Reply# 25   5/18/2015 at 08:50 (3,258 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Don't some Chinese people reuse their clean bathwater to wash their clothes? I think so.
Miele makes suds savers for their commercial washers.
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Post# 824047 , Reply# 29   5/18/2015 at 18:24 (3,258 days old) by maylingsmom ()   |   | |
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Rapunzel-- I thought the numbers for mini and small sounded off. I have thought about pouring water in myself to see if I can figure out roughly how much it is. |
Post# 824052 , Reply# 30   5/18/2015 at 18:49 (3,258 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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Maylingsmom - don't pour in, just fill her up and on the drain measure what comes out. Just make sure you don't flood your house and get electrocuted (my disclaimer). This post was last edited 05/18/2015 at 19:24 |
Post# 824055 , Reply# 31   5/18/2015 at 19:37 (3,258 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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"Someone needs to invent a standalone unit that would convert and washing machine into a suds saving unit. Amazed it hasn't happened already. " Those pedestals under a unit could be designed as a holding tank for recycling the water therefore not taking up any more room. Hmmm, that gives me an idea! |
Post# 824065 , Reply# 33   5/18/2015 at 20:49 (3,258 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 824066 , Reply# 34   5/18/2015 at 20:54 (3,258 days old) by logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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As I've said above, Fagor and Electrolux had a washer that stored rinse water (before the softening rinse) for the next wash. The Lux model was quite a while ago, but the Fagor was fairly recent. The Reason washing machine also had a holding tank underneath the drum - not sure if it recycled the water, though.
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Post# 824067 , Reply# 35   5/18/2015 at 20:56 (3,258 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)   |   | |
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"The quoted SQ numbers of concern may be for a full cycle ... wash fill, rinse fill, & any spin-sprays involved." That would make sense for the mini and small fills, but not for the medium and extra large figures quoted. |
Post# 824101 , Reply# 38   5/19/2015 at 05:08 (3,257 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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No worries. There are too many variables to support "one right way". Like say, one might suds-save their way through an entire week of 'office' clothes. Less likely, athletic wear and UNlikely, trade wear (mechanics et al).
When we visited grandma (fullsize TT) she washed for 7 in one suds fill but nothing was 'really' dirty. OTOH when sissy wet the bed that was a whole load unto itself (grandma got a little irked). I'm pretty eco myself. Probly shouldn't have used the N-suffix, sensitivities being what they can be. Aimed at g'ments dictating how little water they can spare for hygiene. Trend however, seems that mfrs make a g'ment cycle to satisfy numb numbers then alternate cycles that behave more like a machine intended to CLEAN something. Alas, buyers are left to tiptoe through the shards to find what actually works. The less agile left with grayer whites and.... what IS that smell? |