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Post# 123966   4/23/2006 at 09:40 (6,549 days old) by joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)   |   | |
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The old RCA Whirlpool washer/dryer had an interesting wash action that no one has copied since. Instead of just tumbling the laundry through the wash water, it sprayed the water at the clothes. Look what's "new" at Whirlpool now! CLICK HERE TO GO TO joeekaitis's LINK |
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Post# 123973 , Reply# 1   4/23/2006 at 10:10 (6,549 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Post# 123979 , Reply# 2   4/23/2006 at 10:53 (6,549 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 123984 , Reply# 3   4/23/2006 at 11:43 (6,549 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 123989 , Reply# 4   4/23/2006 at 12:07 (6,549 days old) by askomiele (Belgium Ghent)   |   | |
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The direct inject is only a way to saturate the clothes super fast. So the spray is only a new way from the water to enter the drum and on during the fill part of the cycles. |
Post# 123995 , Reply# 5   4/23/2006 at 12:39 (6,549 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 124004 , Reply# 7   4/23/2006 at 13:55 (6,549 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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I have to agree with Tom - This direct inject is only during the fill period on the Whirlpools. I don't understand why they don't use a spray to wash and rinse. What I dont like about the Duets and the Heties is that the baffels are small and cut down and their are no holes in them to recirculate water. I feel more confident with my LG because of the spraying especially with very little water in the drum. With the LG the spray goes on and off the first 10 minutes of the wash cycle and stays on all the time through out the rinses. The only thing I don't like about the LG is the fact that when it goes to spin it takes to much time balancing and doing pulse spins before going into a full spin. (a big waste of time) Boy I wish we can all get together and design these machines. Peter |
Post# 124076 , Reply# 9   4/23/2006 at 21:48 (6,549 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Read somewhere while trolling Google, an article on front loader design and water use, which stated that when using low amounts of water, the "spray" inject method was one way to compensate and help get all the laundry saturated quickly. IIRC certian Maytag commercial front loaders had a spray that come through the front window door, but am not sure if it operated during the rinse or just to help saturate during fills. L. |
Post# 124275 , Reply# 11   4/24/2006 at 22:40 (6,548 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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In a pique of housecleaning threw away all my Maytag commercial laundry information brochures/sheets, but IIRC the washer with the window in door mounted sprayer was one of those large commcerical units that look like old Bendix front loaders. IIRC Primus builds most if not all Maytag commercial washers, so maybe it would be on on their website. L. |
Post# 124302 , Reply# 12   4/25/2006 at 05:05 (6,548 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Lots of washers use flow-through water heaters. These require the water to be pumped through them at a surprising velocity. This water is then sprayed or jetted into the drum when washing. It works very well, even if it does sometimes kick up a few more suds than would otherwise be the case. I have never yet heard a conclusive argument for or against spray-spinning...any ideas? |
Post# 124593 , Reply# 15   4/26/2006 at 05:45 (6,546 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 124595 , Reply# 16   4/26/2006 at 06:02 (6,546 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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The LG (at least the model I have) uses so little water that it needs to douse the clothes with spray during the first minutes of most cycles to get them wet. During the prewash cycle there is no spray and it's interesting to see that large loads sometimes remain partially dry when the prewash ends. I would like a spray rinse on the LG but I imagine, given the FL's sensitivity to unbalanced loads, that a spray rinse could knock a load way off balance because of different absorption rates. I would also expect that spray rinsing would mess up listed water efficiency claims. I had an old Maytag that had a full-one minute spray rinse during the first spin that practically brought the spinning tub to a halt before the water was cut off. On the newest TL Maytag (c.1995) the spray rinse was limited to only 15 seconds. |
Post# 125535 , Reply# 17   4/30/2006 at 05:00 (6,543 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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My new GE T/L-er does not have a spray rinse, most-likely to better it's *efficiency* ratings. I am surprised there is not a dial with three options labeled: Normal cycle Add spray rinse Add deep rinse Add both rinses. Since our Gov't uses anything marked *normal cycle*, ONLY for its tests energy tests, this would serve to get it its rating AND make it work well. On my KA DW- light wash AND normal wash is W-W-R-D. Diff. I think is 5*F water temp. To me, there is no difference. This is another good place to include an *Add 2nd rinse* button/option. Some mannies already go for a DEFAULT cool-dry also to get their desired rating. |