Thread Number: 60237
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
New acquisitions: Speed Queen commercial Fluid Drive and KitchenAid KDS17 DW |
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Post# 828992   6/22/2015 at 06:59 (3,223 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Hi guys,
Well, thought i'd show two recent acquisitions: a 1960s Speed Queen commercial Fluid Drive washer and KitchenAid KDS 17 DW. The Speed Queen came from a laundromat in Victoria: needs the cabinet re-sprayed and a bit noisy in spin, but otherwise works fine. You don't see many Fluid Drive SQ's here in OZ anymore. As for the KitchenAid, what i gem! In excellent condition. Came from a deceased estate, again in Victoria. I was surprised when it said 'Made in West Germany'...would that be correct? Cheers Leon |
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Post# 828993 , Reply# 1   6/22/2015 at 07:01 (3,223 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 828995 , Reply# 2   6/22/2015 at 07:13 (3,223 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)   |   | |
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Two more very nice finds!
The washer is so much fun - love those solenoid controlled functions. BANG! Great washing action too. Sounds like you need some new spin bearings and new linings in the drive cup on the motor pulley. The bearings are kind of a big job, but you'll never have to do it again once it's done. These are standard size bearings available from most any supplier. The KA dishwasher is fascinating, would love to see some pics under her skirt when you have a chance, the tank bottom is a bit different than the U.S. version. |
Post# 828998 , Reply# 3   6/22/2015 at 08:26 (3,223 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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I remember ads of KitchenAid dishwashers in European interior magazines. That must have been in the seventies. I don't have any of those magazines anymore. But a few years ago I saved a picture of a kitchen in the Netherlands with a KitchenAid dishwasher in it. I didn't know they were made in Germany, just they were sold overhere in Europe.
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Post# 828999 , Reply# 4   6/22/2015 at 09:43 (3,223 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 829013 , Reply# 6   6/22/2015 at 11:57 (3,223 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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Post# 829022 , Reply# 7   6/22/2015 at 13:26 (3,223 days old) by Hoover525 (Sydney Australia)   |   | |
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quick vid of the closest I have to one of the best - a 500 series Hoover
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Post# 829031 , Reply# 8   6/22/2015 at 15:27 (3,223 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Post# 829032 , Reply# 9   6/22/2015 at 15:49 (3,223 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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Thanks....got your email too.
I did suspect it needs new bearings and I'll have a look at the fluid due too. Washer111: that sound is the pump, fluid drives traditionally make this sound when filling. Ben and others: will get pics of underneath the KW this arvo. And no worries on the email Ben. and yes Kevin.....saw that video....it's great! Cheers Leon |
Post# 829226 , Reply# 11   6/23/2015 at 15:15 (3,222 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 829232 , Reply# 13   6/23/2015 at 15:38 (3,222 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 829237 , Reply# 14   6/23/2015 at 16:39 (3,221 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 829238 , Reply# 15   6/23/2015 at 16:43 (3,221 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Post# 829257 , Reply# 16   6/23/2015 at 20:27 (3,221 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Umm, that slow rotation during fill and the very long, no-brake slowdown after spin means your brake never engages. My SQ has the same problem, but it's very intermittent, works after both wash spinout and final spin for a dozen or more loads, then won't work for one spin. It makes no difference at the end of the cycle, but it makes a BIG difference at the end of the wash spinout. As the non-braked spinning goes on after the motor stops and the fill starts, you'd be amaazed how much water you lose up over the edge and into the outer tub, just like during powered spin. Then, with only a partially filled tub, the agitation will start and damage the clothes. I've been advised it's a difficult repair on my 1973 model, I don't know how that relates to your 1960. What I've learned to do is watch for the brake to kick in. When it sometimes doesn't, after that first spin, I just turn off the washer until the tub stops, then I turn it back on and finish the load with no interest in whether or not the brake works for the final spin. You'd be amazed how much spped the tub has with no brake, how long it would continue to spin water up and over the top while the timed fill thinks all the water is going into a stopped tub.
Having said that, it's a FUN washer, great results, clean rinses, and I'm happy to watch to see if the brake once in a while doesn't kick in. Your looks like it is entirely non-working, sorry. But still a cool-as-heck machine, and you have the larger size stainless tub, very sweet. |
Post# 829301 , Reply# 17   6/24/2015 at 05:22 (3,221 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 829327 , Reply# 18   6/24/2015 at 09:30 (3,221 days old) by revvinkevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)   |   | |
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Mark - Akronman, all Speed Queen washers up until the point they re-designed the drive system in the 70's, do NOT have any type of tub brake. Question: when you start your 1973 SQ washer, does the motor run as it fills? If so, than yours does not have a tub brake either. If the motor only runs during agitation and spin (like my 1978 SQ washer), then yours has (or is supposed to have) a tub brake. Kevin |
Post# 829390 , Reply# 19   6/24/2015 at 14:47 (3,221 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)   |   | |
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Post# 829418 , Reply# 20   6/24/2015 at 19:15 (3,220 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA)   |   | |
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I'm thinking it's for filling the salt (softner), |
Post# 829424 , Reply# 21   6/24/2015 at 19:41 (3,220 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 829443 , Reply# 22   6/24/2015 at 22:01 (3,220 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)   |   | |
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Wow, I did not know that!
My motor runs only during agitate and spin, not during fill, and since the brake very evenly and routinely stops the tub within about 10 seconds, yes I know it is a brake model. It may be 1974, not 73, can't tell. So the "Banging solenoid" models never had any brake???????? What did the motor accomplish while running during fill? Was the rinse fill longer than the wash fill since water was being spun out as it started filling, or is that the reason it continues to fill a while after agitation starts? News all the time here, lessons to learn, thanks Mark |
Post# 829474 , Reply# 24   6/25/2015 at 05:49 (3,220 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Super Finds there! I wonder if your fluid drive is sticking slightly and not completely disengaging or it could be the shaft it floats on is dry and needs lubing. Robert has great service manuals here to see what I'm talking about.
WHoa! Those spin bearings are shot! they sound like a 747 taking off LOL ! |
Post# 829482 , Reply# 25   6/25/2015 at 06:31 (3,220 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 829483 , Reply# 26   6/25/2015 at 06:32 (3,220 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Post# 829484 , Reply# 27   6/25/2015 at 06:33 (3,220 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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