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Thread Number: 60663
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| Post# 833060 7/21/2015 at 06:35 (3,200 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
Another lovely Logic.
A bit work needed to tidy it up but its working fine. | ||
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| Post# 833091 , Reply# 1 7/21/2015 at 09:05 (3,200 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
A Logic | ||
| Post# 833099 , Reply# 2 7/21/2015 at 10:33 (3,200 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Cheers Gary.
Think this one needs new bearings as there is a bit of funky sound when spinning, although it's lots quieter than the A3954 I got last month. This one was made in 1988 - great that it's still going - well made machines indeed. After having a quick look inside, it feels more 'old school' than the A3954. Looking forward to getting it cleaned up. Do you know of anyone who has Hoover Service manuals ? Any info or tips are much appreciated. Mike. | ||
| Post# 834060 , Reply# 3 7/27/2015 at 12:28 (3,194 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Service manual | ||
| Post# 834312 , Reply# 4 7/29/2015 at 05:02 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Overhaul underway
And the overhaul begins ..... A few signs of leakage / rust
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| Post# 834314 , Reply# 5 7/29/2015 at 05:03 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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These nuts haven't been off in years ....
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| Post# 834315 , Reply# 6 7/29/2015 at 05:10 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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It was unplugged !
All the lights illuminate after I'd removed the heater & motor connections .... It was unplugged of course.
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| Post# 834316 , Reply# 7 7/29/2015 at 05:16 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 834317 , Reply# 8 7/29/2015 at 05:27 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Reservoir removal a problem
It came off in my hand
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| Post# 834318 , Reply# 9 7/29/2015 at 05:29 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Rust takes it toll
Couldn't save this one from crumbling away - the remaining 11 were OK.
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| Post# 834319 , Reply# 10 7/29/2015 at 05:30 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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All is revealing
In a better state than I expected.
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| Post# 834320 , Reply# 11 7/29/2015 at 05:34 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Lots of crud to clean off
Just aswell I already got a new tub seal ( thanks for the advance warning Gary ).
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| Post# 834322 , Reply# 12 7/29/2015 at 05:37 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Heater
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| Post# 834324 , Reply# 13 7/29/2015 at 05:54 (3,192 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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The clean up begins ......
White vinegar and cloths at the ready. The big clean up begins.
The A3110 restoration thread on here from last year has been a massive help to me - thanks to all who put this on. This is my first big overhaul. My plans are: 1. Clean up !! 2. New door seal 3. New tub seal 4. New reservoir assembly - if anyone knows where I can get my hands on one of these I'd be eternally grateful ! 5. New brushes. 6. Considering new motor bearings while I have everything apart- any advice appreciated. 7. Hammerite on the bits that need it. 8. Possible new suspension kit - again any advice here would be appreciated. More posts to follow as work progresses. Mikey. | ||
Post# 834325 , Reply# 14 7/29/2015 at 06:04 (3,192 days old) by chestermikeuk  (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoover Restoration!!
Look good and a fine start there Mike, here is a link to a thread we did last year while upgrading Richards Hoover A3110 may give you further help n tips!!
CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK | ||
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Post# 834327 , Reply# 15 7/29/2015 at 06:08 (3,192 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoover Restoration!! | ||
| Post# 834507 , Reply# 17 7/30/2015 at 11:10 (3,191 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Rust
Thank you for the info.
I was just about to start on the inside of the outer tub and the backplate. Would you recommend using the fe 123 rust convertor and the epoxy 121 steel renovation paint ? If so, would this be suitable for both the backplate and the inside of the tub ? ( the enamel has worn inside, across the middle of the base of the tub as shown here ) Appreciate any tips. Thanks in advance, Mike.
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| Post# 834642 , Reply# 19 7/31/2015 at 12:11 (3,190 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Rust | ||
| Post# 834646 , Reply# 20 7/31/2015 at 12:47 (3,190 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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anytime NO sweat, although I may have to sell my Logic now... R
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| Post# 834655 , Reply# 21 7/31/2015 at 14:40 (3,190 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Oh really ... | ||
| Post# 834950 , Reply# 22 8/3/2015 at 13:21 (3,187 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Thanks... ... and sorry for hijacking your thread. yes, it is great, no mould inside and in great nick. I replaced the pump and a few perished hoses. It would make a great machine for someone that wanted an efficient little retro machine. The writing ion the fascia is all intact too. R | ||
| Post# 835108 , Reply# 23 8/4/2015 at 18:32 (3,186 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Anti twist suspension kit | ||
| Post# 835133 , Reply# 24 8/5/2015 at 03:35 (3,185 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Anti-twist kit I fitted this to my Logic that is pictured a few threads up: www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/ys8082... I presume that yours will be the same... R | ||
| Post# 835134 , Reply# 25 8/5/2015 at 04:07 (3,185 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Anti twist | ||
| Post# 835334 , Reply# 27 8/6/2015 at 07:37 (3,184 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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A3888 | ||
| Post# 835335 , Reply# 28 8/6/2015 at 07:40 (3,184 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Epoxy mastic
Took your advice and got some of this paint - just done and waiting to dry.
Next step is the anti-twist kit.
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| Post# 835337 , Reply# 29 8/6/2015 at 07:44 (3,184 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Carbon Brushes
Brushes changed.
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| Post# 835574 , Reply# 30 8/7/2015 at 13:41 (3,183 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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re Looking good - the paint is good stuff. I'll let you know about my Logic; I will probably advertise it on here, in the hope that it goes to a good home, rather than to someone who just wants a cheap machine to hammer. I'm in no rush to get it moved and so let me know if you are serious about taking it on and want more details. R | ||
| Post# 835855 , Reply# 31 8/10/2015 at 05:15 (3,180 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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A3888 | ||
| Post# 835886 , Reply# 32 8/10/2015 at 11:00 (3,180 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Anti twist suspension kit - tips for removing .... | ||
| Post# 835889 , Reply# 33 8/10/2015 at 11:07 (3,180 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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rods I remember them not being that tricky to remove, when fitted to the machine. I used a 13mm ratchet spanner to remove them. I think that the 13mm Nyloc nut simply unscrews anticlockwise - but I remember taking care not to grab the bottom part of the rod with the mole grips, so not to damage them so they wear out the guides. R | ||
| Post# 835891 , Reply# 34 8/10/2015 at 11:14 (3,180 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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| Post# 835909 , Reply# 35 8/10/2015 at 13:08 (3,180 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Grrrr | ||
| Post# 836044 , Reply# 36 8/11/2015 at 02:31 (3,179 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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... Clamp it very tightly, using 2 molegrips if possible, then give it a go. They do come off...promise! R | ||
| Post# 836048 , Reply# 37 8/11/2015 at 03:27 (3,179 days old) by sesteve (London, UK) | ||
I have just done this last week on my computer control as it was leaking from the door during rinses even after I changed the door boot.
The way I did it was like you - I turned it upside down and removed the plastic guides but couldn't get the rods out. I then pulled the springs up towards me and the plastic cup and attached my molegrips at this point. As the rods are not moving in the cup there is no chance of damaging the guides etc. Worked a treat but just keep a close eye on the order things come off and try not to drop as its a nightmare getting them out again. good luck S | ||
| Post# 836094 , Reply# 38 8/11/2015 at 10:26 (3,179 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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No joy ! | ||
| Post# 836105 , Reply# 39 8/11/2015 at 12:15 (3,179 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Rods
I have had some over the years that are stiff, but a pair of mole grips at the base of the rod (machine upside down and the spring and slides removed)) and a 13mm ring spanner it comes undone, it can be fiddly but not impossible those nylock nuts only hold to a certain pressure.
It is best to try and turn the spanner a little whilst obviously gripping the rod When you get it all out make sure to make a note of the way the suspension parts go together, also the soap draw side spring is shorter than the other and it has an additional metal bracket on it. Gary | ||
| Post# 836117 , Reply# 40 8/11/2015 at 12:58 (3,179 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Rods
Thanks Gary - will leave it til tomorrow and give it another go.
Got notes and pics of the parts and thanks for the extra info about the soap drawer side. It's all been slowly coming together - this has been the toughest part so far. Determined to get it done tho ! Ever thought of doing a Logic workshop ? If so, I'd love to come along - and could even bring one with me ! Cheers, Mike | ||
| Post# 836206 , Reply# 41 8/12/2015 at 02:44 (3,178 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Workshops
Hello Mike
I am far too short tempered to do anything like that :-) The link that chestermike put in covers us doing the electron 1100 and has just about everything in it you would need to know, the logics and the prvious ranges of machines going back to the 1970s are virtually identical in terms of major parts. As regards Rust, all the rust on that machine was wire brushed then treated with rust treatment then covered in chemical metal and then painted with Hammerite, apart from the very flange around the rear tub that was wire brushed then rust treatment then Hammerite. The backplates can get a bit crusty around the edges so it worth cleaning those up with a stiff wire brush In all the years of doing this on washing machines neither I or Mat in Cardiff have ever had further problems, but each to his own. Good luck with this project it will be well worth it in the end Gary | ||
| Post# 836214 , Reply# 42 8/12/2015 at 05:07 (3,178 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Hiya Gary and thank you for the extra info.
The electron 1100 link you mention has been a massive help - like a workshop in itself. Thanks to that, and everyone who has chipped in, it's really helped me with this overhaul. Really appreciate all the knowledge that's been shared with me. I know it will all be worth it .... Now, back to these bloody rods ...... ! Cheers, Mike. | ||
| Post# 837168 , Reply# 43 8/18/2015 at 05:51 (3,172 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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They're off !!
Rods removed and new ones put on.
Now on with the refurb ! This post was last edited 08/18/2015 at 07:42 | ||
| Post# 837337 , Reply# 44 8/19/2015 at 10:14 (3,171 days old) by triumphtoledo (Shropshire/Worcestershire) | ||
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Yay! nice one; let us know how it goes... R | ||
| Post# 837852 , Reply# 45 8/23/2015 at 11:11 (3,167 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Pressure bottle
Hi
Does anyone have one of these pressure bottles I could purchase ? While wriggling this one off to clean it, I broke it. Mike
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| Post# 837864 , Reply# 46 8/23/2015 at 12:31 (3,167 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Broken Bit | ||
| Post# 837865 , Reply# 47 8/23/2015 at 12:32 (3,167 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Refitting the tub seal and back plate | ||
| Post# 837866 , Reply# 48 8/23/2015 at 12:33 (3,167 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Pressure bottle | ||
| Post# 837959 , Reply# 50 8/24/2015 at 03:27 (3,166 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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Back plate seal
my tuppence worth
I use a stiff wire brush to clean off any deposits, the spark plug brush is so stiff and good at removing deposits, I have never used a wire brush on a drill, the only reason I use silicon bathroom sealant is to help the rubber seal stay in place whilst you are fitting the back plate they can be sods and pop off some times. I run a line of it in the corner section of the backplate where the corner of the seal sits Keep up the good work Gary | ||
| Post# 838341 , Reply# 51 8/26/2015 at 10:40 (3,164 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Working .... But .....
All back together - machine is working although I have a leak from both thermostat seals. Both seem to be sitting correctly.
Any recommendations ? Thanks for everyone's help so far. Mike.
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| Post# 843767 , Reply# 52 10/1/2015 at 14:53 (3,128 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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All done !!!
Refurb of my A3670 complete - all fully working and looking good with a new drawer front.
Just did a 50 degree Minimum Iron wash - only took 45 minutes. I'd forgotten how quick these machines are. Brilliant ! Very happy :-) Thanks to everyone for the help and advice. I've enjoyed the overhaul and looking forward to more. Mike 
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| Post# 847307 , Reply# 53 10/24/2015 at 08:56 (3,105 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK) | ||
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Water level ! | ||
| Post# 847881 , Reply# 54 10/27/2015 at 05:54 (3,102 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
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YEAH! | ||
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