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Post# 834835   8/2/2015 at 13:39 (3,188 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        

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Most of these AGA stoves I've seen have those big hot plates on top. Of course they all seem to be ridiculously expensive. This has a vintage look although I'm not sure how practical a floor-level oven window would be. I personally never get down on the floor unless I absolutely have to. $2500 in pricey Indian Wells. 



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Post# 834838 , Reply# 1   8/2/2015 at 14:08 (3,188 days old) by richardlxixxx (Old Westbury, New York)        
AGA Stove

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That stove is gorgeous.


Post# 834839 , Reply# 2   8/2/2015 at 14:26 (3,188 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Looks very

Impractical to me, all those big gas burners  would be murder here,your air conditioning would never keep up, and that little oven at the floor!..no thanks!


Post# 834931 , Reply# 3   8/3/2015 at 08:53 (3,188 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

When there were those big box (no, not that kind) stores like Sears Great Indoors and that other one with a name like Home Emporium or something similar that I think was part of Home Depot, they sold these hybrid AGA cookers realizing that the two hot plates on top was not a practical design for most cooks. I never found an all electric one. If you had a tiny person or the Keebler Elves doing your baking, this stove might be OK, but it looks more cutsey than practical.

For all of their mystique, you have to remember that the AGA cooker was designed to be used by a blind person, not a gourmet chef. Most of the food turned out by the two fat ladies was not gourmet by any stretch of the imagination and often, it did not look like the amount that they were preparing was the total amount of food served so I would say that the capacity of the cookers is limited also. I think you would need a good pastry oven in addition to what the AGA offered, a hot oven and a slow oven.


Post# 834967 , Reply# 4   8/3/2015 at 15:31 (3,187 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
I'll take what's behind door #2

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There must be something else besides the oven. There are too many knobs. I remember the "Two Fat Ladies" cringing when they walked into a kitchen and saw one of those big AGA's spewing out heat like Mauna Loa on a bad hair day.


Post# 834978 , Reply# 5   8/3/2015 at 17:01 (3,187 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Aga?

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It is not an Aga at all but simply a country style regular rage with gas top (5 burners) large lower oven (too low for my liking) small broiler/warming compartment and a tall skinny oven to the side. It is normal for the ovens to be fan assisted. The unit is 90cm wide (so approx 3ft). This style has been very popular here and I believe this particular style sold under the Rangemaster brand which is actually reputable enough.

It was a development of the fashion which started here for what we call range cookers (the implication here is more like farmhouse) which were often little more than two apartment sizes cookers welded together. Whilst that style is still available (with a vast variety of sizes) this size has become very popular and appears in a number of styles - farmhouse, vintage (sort of 50s), contemporary and "professional". Ovens are amost always electric with gas, ceramic and now induction tops.

An aga is a heat storage cooker on all the time although a few years back they added a smaller unit which works like a conventional stove as an add on to the heat storage type for use in the summer or for things that required a more precise temperature control on hob or oven.

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Post# 835001 , Reply# 6   8/3/2015 at 19:52 (3,187 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)        
wouldn't hold a candle

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in any respect, to a vintage Chambers Model C... imho.

Post# 835071 , Reply# 7   8/4/2015 at 12:05 (3,186 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        

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Post# 835077 , Reply# 8   8/4/2015 at 13:29 (3,186 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
Well it might be branded as an Aga

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but the link below shows what a "proper" Aga is like.

An Aga cooker was basically a heat storage cooker fired by initially coal or oil and as Tom noted above was initially developed for a blind person, I believe in Scandinavia. Later gas (1960s) and electric (1980s or maybe 90s) versions came out - there is even one which will operate on a 13amp supply and also versions with induction tops. I do not know whether or not these would be comparable with a Chambers unit but new they cost several thousands of pounds and require specialist installation. They also require a rather different approach to cooking although they can cook pretty much anything.

As I noted above, the unit in question here is no more than a fancy, but conventionally engineered cooker (range) - depending on specification they range from around £1450 - £2000 - so lets say about $2500 - $3000 - half the listed price of the US. A "proper" Aga I would have thought would have been getting on for $20,000 or maybe even more.


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Post# 835085 , Reply# 9   8/4/2015 at 14:11 (3,186 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        

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I never said it was a "proper" Aga. Easier to clean when they're hot and I'll bet they make a mean pizza, 2 at a time.


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Post# 835102 , Reply# 10   8/4/2015 at 17:36 (3,186 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
While the AGA was designed by a blind man

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To ease his wife's lot in doing the daily cooking, the concept of heat storage ranges/cookers is an old one. AGA, Rayburn and others merely took things to a new level.

If you've seen "Upstairs/Downstairs" you'd know Mrs. Bridges like many others cooked/baked on a range with similar principles.

Maddening thing about heat storage ranges and such is the lack of precise temperature control. One relies upon moving pots and pans from one oven/plate to another really.

Cake and some other baking was an ordeal again for the same reasons; lack of precise temperature control. It took plenty of experience mainly from trial and error to know how. For this reason cakes as we know them were not baked as often because most households just didn't have the skill set. Once ovens became available with reliable and accurate temperature settings an entire new world was opened up for the home and even professional baker.

Indeed if you look at foods served say in the Victorian era or before you find plenty of soups, stews, roasts, puddings, things that could be boiled, and so forth. That is foods that didn't require exacting temperature control and or could be left in ovens for several hours. Of course there were pastries, soufflés, and so forth but again it took a certain level of skill to turn those things out from the cooking equipment on offer. Hence so many homes had pastry chefs and or someone who knew about such things.

AGA has been trying for years to make inroads to the USA market with limited success. IIRC they are based in North Carolina.

Problem is there are few places in the USA with same climate as Northern Europe (mostly cold/cool and usually damp). You aren't going to fire up a traditional AGA in NYC area during warmer times of the year.


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Post# 835136 , Reply# 11   8/5/2015 at 05:46 (3,186 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Aga Rangemaster

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Aga forged an alliance with Rangmaster Ltd a few years ago and has been able to badge Rangemaster Range Cookers as Aga mainly for overseas purposes, the above model is a Rangemaster Elan 90cm cooker which is very popular here and in terms of cookability and heating / fuel efficiency is about the best around for price as well, you can get various cooktops including induction!!

Ovens are large fan assist LHS lower, Grill Broiler Top LHS and the new style tall rack oven which is very deep and narrow allowing between 3 and 5 shelves to be used, perfect for batch baking and with plate warming racks..very wersatile.


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Post# 835138 , Reply# 12   8/5/2015 at 05:51 (3,186 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Saying That....Hot Off The Press!! 15th July 2015

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"Middleby Buys Rangemaster"

British cooker manufacturer and one of the few left, Aga Rangemaster, is to be sold to US firm Middleby in a deal valued at £129m.

The group, which is based in Leamington Spa, and has been manufacturing its stoves in Coalbrookdale, Shropshire, since 1930, said it had agreed a sale with the Middleby Corporation.

Middleby said it would carry out a strategic review of operations later in the year, once the deal is completed. Which is often code for, redundancies and production “rationalisation” to follow soon in such deals.

Many people in Europe and the UK in particular would not know the Middleby name but they are also producers of the upmarket US brand, Viking.

It said it planned to keep Aga's manufacturing in the UK.

Last year, Aga announced a fall in profits, mainly because of pension costs, shop closures and site rationalisation, although revenues rose.

However, it said markets for its appliances had strengthened at the start of the year.

The group, which also owns the Fired Earth tiles brand, recently began sales in China after spending more than two years gaining the right accreditations.

Selim Bassoul, chairman and chief executive of Illinois-based Middleby, said the takeover would strengthen the company's global reach.

Aga said the deal would help increase sales of its brands in North America, while the British firm would offer Middleby a "European platform".




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Post# 835141 , Reply# 13   8/5/2015 at 06:07 (3,186 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Induction for the Air Con...

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Recently Introduced to help in those summer months...

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Post# 835149 , Reply# 14   8/5/2015 at 07:45 (3,186 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Yes, Aga and the others are a cut above other ranges

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Of the period because they use gas (though IIRC there are or were versions that are heated with coal), which in itself would be a lifesaver for any housewife/cook.










For those who have never had to bother there is an art and effort required to keep coal fired ranges going. You had to know not only how to light and keep a fire going, but when and how to bank it as well. Once or perhaps twice a year the thing had to be cleaned and "blacked" with special polish which IIRC not only kept it looking good but also prevented rust.

Anyone who has cooked or worked with cast iron knows it is what it is; slow to heat up but once it does it releases the same evenly and slowly. Great for radiators or frying chicken, but not too sure I'd want a range made of the stuff during a NYC summer.


Post# 835321 , Reply# 15   8/6/2015 at 06:25 (3,185 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

My mother's family had a cast iron cook stove in Hibbing, but in the summer they used a kerosene stove in the summer kitchen.

Post# 835350 , Reply# 16   8/6/2015 at 09:13 (3,185 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia )        
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Impressive, and lotto money winnings at best to own.


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