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Post# 836615   8/14/2015 at 13:45 (652 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Yes folks, it's time once again for one of those 'Turquoisedude Torture Tests' involving a vintage dishwasher.  Cover the kiddie's ears and send Granny to bed, just in case the language gets colourful... 


So, while it wasn't a key factor in our decision to purchase the house in St-Liboire, I thought it was kinda interesting that the kitchen included a Maytag Jet-Clean dishwasher and on our second visit, I determined it was indeed a reverse-rack model.  


It's a model WU404 and the serial number is 202018 BW.  There may have been another marking between the '8' and the 'B' in the serial number - something may have been scratched off but I can't be sure. 


It's pretty basic - the pushbutton seems to simply toggle the heating element on and off for washing and drying. The dial is self-explanatory - no push/pull functionality.  I had initially thought this was one of the models where the drying heater was controlled that way but nope.  


Before we moved in, I tried out the machine sans vaisselle to see if it worked and all seemed normal for the most part.  We'll come to my initial observation in a moment... 

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Post# 836616 , Reply# 1   8/14/2015 at 13:50 (652 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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We've been in the house three days and I figured I'd batch up the dishes, glasses, cups, pots, and pans for the 'maiden wash'.   I briefly owned a Maytag RR dishwasher back in the early days of Ogden so I remembered a little bit about how to load it.   It held more than I remembered!!


The dishes were good and dirty, so I used the Pots and Pans dial setting and pressed the Sani Wash/Power

Dry button. 


Oh, and I didn't think to take a 'before' shot of that Corningware dish but it had been used to bake a tuna casserole (with Flair, of course).  It wasn't that bad, though. 

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Post# 836617 , Reply# 2   8/14/2015 at 13:53 (652 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
And here's where the wheels fell off....

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I was pretty well expecting this...  The detergent dispenser didn't trip in the main wash; this was what I had observed in the water test I did about a week and a half ago.  I flipped the lid manually and let the 'Tag do its thing for the rest of the cycle. 


Overall, though, I observed no issues with leaks or funny noises.  Timer runs smoothly and the machine is pretty darn quiet.  I was a wee bit disappointed that there's no heated-air dry... 

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Post# 836618 , Reply# 3   8/14/2015 at 13:59 (652 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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And for once it's a good 'but'!!  


The wash results are what I would call TD-Rated - everything came out pretty darn clean.  I found out this week that the water here is nice and hard (and a bit smelly, too) so despite that and with dried-on goo on the dishes, the 'Tag did a good job.  


So, now I'll be having a look-see at how to fix that darned dispenser.  I think I actually still have the one from the WU901 I sent to Kia a few years back and if I can find it, I'll see if I can swap it out.    Are there any pitfalls associated with these dispensers or any 'dear heaven above DON'T do this...' tips that I should be aware of?


Now, I do have the '62 KDS54 in the new kitchen as well, so I don't have to rush, but I'd rather not run my lovely KA until I get a water-treatment system installed here.  Yeah, I know... 


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Post# 836690 , Reply# 4   8/14/2015 at 21:06 (652 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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I always have wanted a RR to play with.


Looks good Paul. Maybe a field trip in the fall after the restaurant closes. We'll see who I can roust up around here ???

Post# 836691 , Reply# 5   8/14/2015 at 21:09 (652 days old) by mjg0619 (Scranton/Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania)        

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Looks like new! Always loved those Maytag JetClean models.

Post# 836699 , Reply# 6   8/14/2015 at 21:47 (652 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Is that a speck of shmutz on the side of the Corning pan?

Post# 836802 , Reply# 7   8/15/2015 at 13:45 (651 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Paul there is a heated dry on this dishwasher, it has to be selected and it will also give you heat in all portions of the wash and rinse cycles too. If I had a choice between my Miele dishwasher and a Maytag Reverse rack machine, I would take the Maytag since it cleans well and is quick.

Post# 836805 , Reply# 8   8/15/2015 at 13:59 (651 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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very nice machine, definitely a keeper.....

congrats on the new house as well......but didn't they do a water test before you purchased it?, most times those water issues must be least around here they do, if the water is too hard or has a bad taste/odor....a system to correct must be installed by the seller...

keep us posted as to how you make out with that dispenser repair

Post# 836813 , Reply# 9   8/15/2015 at 16:14 (651 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Martin, I know they did a water test as I drove Paul to the lab for the water analysis before the sale was concluded. I don't think any seller has to address issues with water or sewage systems here, it's the buyer's responsibility to check that and fix that (and adjust it's purchase price accordingly!). Most banks will require any serious issues with water (non drinkable or no septic system) to be fixed so the buyer can get a loan and municipalities often that the purchaser of a house with a septic system that's not respecting the current norms will update it but they rarely ask long time owners who bought or built their homes when septic tanks weren't even required unless their sewage water causes nuisance to neighbors or to a lake or river nearby.


I know people who just can't drink the water from their well and can't find adequate treatment for it. I did drink Paul's water when we moved the appliances and he warned me about the taste and odor (and so did Chris later!) but I could barely smell or taste anything wrong!   I have extremely hard water at the garage where I store my appliances, I drink it too (it doesn't have any taste or odor but it's very hard and a single drop will leave a white deposit).


Mike, I think Paul was hoping his Maytag dishwasher had forced air drying like his Kitchen Aid.



Were there ever Maytag reverse rack dishwashers made with this feature?

Post# 836819 , Reply# 10   8/15/2015 at 17:13 (651 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I thought RRs did have forced air drying

Post# 836835 , Reply# 11   8/15/2015 at 21:11 (651 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
yes, they have forced air drying

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All the RR's have forced air drying. Even when set for energy saver drying, the fan provides forced air flow for the drying portion of the cycle without the heating element.

The fan is in the lower right rear of the unit as you face it from the from. It is a small squirrel cage fan that blows up into a hood that you can see in the lower right portion of the tub. I can think of three possibilities if you are not getting forced air: 1.) blower wheel jammed with something (dead mouse, etc.) 2.) wire off of the motor 3.) motor burned out, which is very unlikely since its a shaded pole motor (but not impossible.) Most likely the bearings are dry and you have rotor lock. Just lubricate them with a penetrating oil until the fan wheel rotates freely.

Post# 836840 , Reply# 12   8/15/2015 at 21:24 (651 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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I guess I haven't looked closely enough at mine!


I still can find blowers.



Where are they exactly??






Post# 836844 , Reply# 13   8/15/2015 at 21:34 (651 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
too early a model

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Phil, I think yours must be one of the first of the RR's from the late sixties (69)or early seventies I think. Apparently they do not have a blower. If it did you would see it in the lower right corner fo the tub.

I don't believe your unit is a belt drive is it? I have never seen the original RR's. But all the newer models, with the control panel like Travis's, have the forced air convection drying. Even the BOL the line models have it, the belt drive as well as the later direct drives as well.

Post# 836845 , Reply# 14   8/15/2015 at 21:37 (651 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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They are WU600 series 2 and a WU601, TOL models with the rapid advance timers. 


The WU600 is from August of 1973 and it's a direct drive and the WU601 is from May of 1976 and it's a belt drive. 


I never looked much at newer series! 




Post# 836846 , Reply# 15   8/15/2015 at 21:47 (651 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
forced air outlet

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Here is a picture from someone's link, you can see the vent or hood in the right corner.

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Post# 836847 , Reply# 16   8/15/2015 at 21:51 (651 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
love your machines, Phil

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Despite the lack of blower fan, I would love to have one of your units, Phil. I believe you have three final rinses, instead of two like the newer RR's. Is that correct?

BTW, a little trivia, in the last season of "Bewitched" Samantha had your model RR. In an episode where George and Martha Washington are brought to the future, Sam is demonstrating the dishwasher to Martha, much to Martha's astonishment!

Post# 836852 , Reply# 17   8/15/2015 at 22:24 (651 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Forced air drying didn't come until the mid-70's. My WU-601 does not have it, just like Phil's. Maytag's system used the element in the tank and blew room-temp air into the tank whereas the KitchenAid used an external air heater outside the tank. The blower in the Maytag helped, but KA still had the better system overall.

Check the belt on your machine, Paul. The dispenser circuit is wired through a switch in the motor and until the motor has sufficient load, it will not complete this circuit. If the belt is loose and not lubed properly, it will cause this failure. Also check the water valve and ensure the machine is getting sufficient charge of water as this can cause the dispenser to not open in the main wash, too.

Post# 836854 , Reply# 18   8/15/2015 at 22:36 (651 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        

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Phil, have you noticed any difference in washability between the direct drive and the belt drive?

Post# 836855 , Reply# 19   8/15/2015 at 22:39 (651 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Barry, I haven't hooked up my Maytags yet. I gave a WU601 to a friend but I still have another one waiting to be connected next to the WU600 so I can compare them!

I wasn't aware that Samantha used a WU600 in an episode of Bewitched! I'll have to look for that episode! I currently have the Frigidaire Custom Imperial Spray Tube dishwasher at home, just like the one she had in the early seasons of Bewitched and a similar 1964 refrigerator.

Post# 836858 , Reply# 20   8/15/2015 at 22:49 (651 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
Maytag RR appearance

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It was Season 8, Episodes 21 and 22 (a two parter) "George Washington Zapped Here."

Post# 836859 , Reply# 21   8/15/2015 at 23:03 (651 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Thanks Barry! Will look for that!

Post# 837071 , Reply# 22   8/17/2015 at 14:55 (649 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Got it, a WU-600 in Harvest Gold!

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Post# 837159 , Reply# 23   8/18/2015 at 04:58 (648 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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That's a Maytag dryer in the background...Sam calls it a "washer/dryer" but it's obviously a center dial dryer

Post# 837183 , Reply# 24   8/18/2015 at 07:51 (648 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
open machine

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There's a scene where Samantha quickly opens the machine to show the inside to Martha Washington, in Part 2 of the episode. A YouTube video of the episode is out there of it but its no good as the bottom of the screen is cut off and (I assume they taped it off of a TV screen and didn't center the picture) and you can't really see in the machine. But the actual episode shows the full interior, for a brief moment.

Post# 837209 , Reply# 25   8/18/2015 at 10:38 (648 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Will look for that, I have all the episodes.

Post# 837291 , Reply# 26   8/18/2015 at 22:58 (648 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        

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Here are some appliance shots from that episode, the WU-600, a harvest gold gas dryer (can't tell the series but it doesn't seem to be a 806). It seems that they also had a few Westinghouse-inspired paintings on the wall!

I don't know what's the brand of the side by side fridge or the wall oven.

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Post# 837324 , Reply# 27   8/19/2015 at 07:07 (647 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Cool Photos Phil

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The MT dryer does appear to be a Gas DG806, the ref is a Kelvinator and the wall oven and cook-top are Tappan, interesting the Westinghouse Appliance photos framed on the wall.

Post# 837335 , Reply# 28   8/19/2015 at 10:02 (647 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

It's funny how they put black tape on the Maytag name, on the dishwasher and the dryer. I wish we could still buy these appliances, brand new. Martha Washington was lucky to witness these marvels.. lol.

Post# 837336 , Reply# 29   8/19/2015 at 10:08 (647 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
great screen shots

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Good screen shots, Phil. I never even noticed the Westinghouse appliance renderings on the wall. You have a good eye!

Post# 837359 , Reply# 30   8/19/2015 at 15:35 (647 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
Good news about the WU404!

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I had a look at the rear of the tub and there is a vent port as described; I did a little messing around with the fan and found it had gotten stuck.  During last night's test wash, I felt hot air blowing out through the door vent, so methinks I got pure dumb lucky here!!  A heated dry was the only way to go last night with nearly 90% humidity here... But it seems to work now, so YAY!  


I also found a supply valve to the dishwasher (it's all permanently connected copper pipe - THAT's gonna fun when I remove the dishwasher for the installation of new floor tiles...); it wasn't quite open all the way.  I opened it up fully and during last night's run, the detergent opened at least partially in the main wash phase of the cycle.  A little more tinkering will be required, I think.    I will need to pop the front panels at some point soon anyway - I think they'll be undergoing a colour transplant.  Unless I suddenly decide that the '58 Spin Tube needs to be paired up with other Frigidaires... LOL 


But so far, to say the machine has been exposed to seriously hard water all its life, it's doing a pretty decent job of cleaning!  I'll continue to observe, though... 

Post# 837385 , Reply# 31   8/19/2015 at 19:55 (647 days old) by Kenmore71 (Minneapolis, MN)        

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Forced air drying in the Maytag RR machines first appeared in July of 1978 with the WU100, 300, 500, 700, 900 machines. I have the documentation from "Let's Talk Service" if anyone wants proof…..

Post# 837393 , Reply# 32   8/19/2015 at 20:21 (647 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
no proof necessary

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We trust you, Mark!!

Post# 837423 , Reply# 33   8/20/2015 at 06:59 (646 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
Proof - :-)

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I believe you, too! I'm kinda surprised it was that late in the 70's, how interesting. My mother's aunt bought a TOL Maytag around 78-79 for their new house "in town" when they retired from the farm (also had a TOL Maytag there) and I remember watching for the burst of steam laden air when the fan would start.

Post# 837506 , Reply# 34   8/20/2015 at 19:06 (646 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Forced-Air Drying In MT RR DWs

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Really helped a lot, before they added a blower MT was besieged with complaints about drying performance by customers that had had a KA, a Whirlpool and even a GE DW before they got the MT, [ D&M-KM DWs were also lousy at drying ]


MT RR DWs drying problem was the vent in the door was too small and not high enough on the door, so little if any drying took place unless the heater was still on, and what really made matters bad for many users was having the SWB in the top rack, if you didn't remember to pull out the top rack first and unload and remove the SWB all the water in the webbing in the basket would shower the items in the lower rack. MT redesigned the SWB several times trying to minimize this problem.


In some ways it was a shame that the MT RR DWs were discontinued , they were one of the last of many unconventional DW designs that were built in the post WW2 period, sometimes you just can't win with a different idea in this world.


But for MT it was a great decision to change to a conventional design machine, DW sales nearly doubled in just a few years for MT after they abandoned this unusual and widely hated design [ by most of their customers ].

Post# 837509 , Reply# 35   8/20/2015 at 19:55 (646 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Well, I'm just running the KDS54 for the first time this evening... Let's see if it outwashes the 'Tag.... 

Post# 837516 , Reply# 36   8/20/2015 at 20:27 (646 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The KA couldn't if it was full of nothing but pots pans prep bowls and stock pots.  Those are my loads many times. 

Post# 837540 , Reply# 37   8/20/2015 at 23:18 (646 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
"hated" ???

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Very odd that such a "hated" dishwasher would be in production for 19 years, ha. Manufactures don't market a design for 19 years unless it is popular.

What is your data point, Combo52, that Maytag Reverse Racks were hated by "most of their customers?" Please share that data source with us.

I think you are the only one who hates the Maytag RR because it is a superior design and overall machine to the pedestrian Whirlpools.

Maytag Reverse Racks were a premium machine like the Hobart KA, with a premium price. Sadly, economics took its toll and Maytag cheapened their machines by getting rid of the fired-on-steel porcelain tubs in '91 and went to a conventional dishwasher with a plastic tub like other manufacturers were doing.

As I have mentioned many times on this site. My families' first dishwasher was a Modern Maid (D&M. It had some issue, but "lousy" drying was not one of them. In fact it more-or-less "baked" the dishes. They came out of they drying cycle quite dry and quite too hot to handle for while.

Post# 837583 , Reply# 38   8/21/2015 at 07:31 (645 days old) by Combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Oh Barry. Maybe I should've said highly disliked , lol

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I worked with Maytag for many years and I have far more experience with customers and dishwashers than you will ever have. I have literally talked to hundreds of customers about their experiences with this and many other dishwashers I found very few customers that really liked this machine none were too disappointed when we replaced with a different brand DW either.


I attended dozens of Maytag sales meetings and it was a constant selling job to sell and resell this dishwasher to customers because it's unusual design.


Maytag could have easily built a reverse rack plastic tub machine and brought the cost down but THEY made the decision to abandon it and sales took off after that the facts are facts the price did not come down that much if at all on MT DWs dishwashers after the change they were still charging premium prices.

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Post# 837600 , Reply# 39   8/21/2015 at 09:48 (645 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
hundreds of reverse rack customers?

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You may have talked to hundreds of customers over the years, but not hundreds of people with reverse racks. Even if you did that is such a small percentage of the total population in the U.S. that has/had ownership of Reverse Racks, that it is a meaningless number statistically. And of course, any information is colored by your personal bias.

Actually, I believe that the RR started in 1969 and the last model year was '89 - 90. So it was closer to 21 years in production. You mentioned all the changes they made while the RR was in production. This is called continual product research and improvement and should be done by manufacturer' made a good product even better. As they did with the change of filtration system, addition of the forced air drying, etc.

Notice however, the one thing they didn't change was the reverse rack. So in approximately 20 -21 years they must have gotten much positive feedback from their customers on the racking as that is the ONE thing they didn't change. They didn't until they redesigned and cheapened the total unit to compete with other cheap units on the market.

With good reason. It holds more than most dishwasher and is intuitive to load. The reverse rack was a real coup on the engineers' part. They sweated out even the small details. For example, bowls. It hold more bowls than any machine I have ever had and they can even bowls with food remains such as dried oatmeal can be placed back to back. And the small high velocity jets have enough force to clean them. In my whirlpools, the upper rack cleanability is inconsistent. Often I have to skip a space between bowls to give them a chance to get washed properly. Even then sometimes then don't get clean if the food has been dried on.

In the Maytag RR I don't have to worry about leaving an empty space between bowls. In addition its one of the few dishwashers I have had where the tines for the bowls are tall enough that bowls don't sometimes fall over when pushing or pulling the upper rack in or out. It has dedicated space for ten bowls and there are plenty of saucer rack tines if one has more bowls than that.

One of my favorite features of the RR is the FULL SIZED spray arm over the upper rack. In scours the bottom of the my electric skillet and other pots. They did keep this feature for a while when they went to the cheapened conventional rack system, but you could no longer put deep pots into the upper rack as in the RR system.

I am very sorry you allowed your feelings to get hurt by my positive comments on the reverse rack, Combo52.

Post# 837601 , Reply# 40   8/21/2015 at 10:05 (645 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
makes me wonder what vintage washer dryer you decided to use

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Makes me wonder what kind of vintage washer dryer you decided to hook up in your new house

66 inglis washer dryer or whirlpool or the turquoise fridgedaire lol unless you decided to hook up the vintage maytag lol?

Post# 837609 , Reply# 41   8/21/2015 at 10:50 (645 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Ah, you've read my mind...  Stay tuned for a thread all about which washer and dryer is now the go-to team in St-Lib!!   Coming this afternoon with any luck.

Post# 837613 , Reply# 42   8/21/2015 at 11:10 (645 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I bought my Maytag RR new in November '91 from the local dealer when I moved into my house. The RR was great...cleaned everything, top and bottom rack, was very versatile in loading IMO, dried everything well including plastics and the cycles were quick. The only complaint would be the noise compared to today's dishwashers.


Post# 837689 , Reply# 43   8/21/2015 at 19:20 (645 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Gotta Get Me a RR Portable !!!

Post# 838326 , Reply# 44   8/26/2015 at 08:36 (640 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
Further Torture Testing...

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So I did some baking yesterday and that generated some dirty dishes and baked on residues.  What better to test the Maytag WU404 with!  


Lets see what happens with that Corningware loaf pan in a 'Pots And Pans' cycle... 

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Post# 838327 , Reply# 45   8/26/2015 at 08:40 (640 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Some good news - the detergent cup is tripping all by itself again!  I think it may have been stuck with old detergent residue (I extracted the remains of a couple of tabs...) and I somehow think the former owner didn't use this machine all that frequently.   


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Post# 838328 , Reply# 46   8/26/2015 at 08:44 (640 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
Results? Well....

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Not great, alas.... Not as bad as the recent Torture Test of the '65 Kenmore Roto-Rack but still a tad disappointing.   I hate to say it, but I think the '70 Mobile Maid would have been better able to cope with this.  I think next time I'll have to try out the KDS54 and see how it does.


Fear not, I am not rushing to decommission the 'Tag yet.  It will have to be removed at some point though (I want to install a new floor in the kitchen - that linoleum is kinda awful...).   You can start taking bets on whether it gets re-installed or if a certain '58 turquoise Spin-Tube takes its place.  LOL 

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Post# 838336 , Reply# 47   8/26/2015 at 10:12 (640 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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me think and guessing you plan on installing your vintage turquoise ge dishwasher lol

Post# 838398 , Reply# 48   8/26/2015 at 19:18 (640 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Well wait a minute there...what did you use for a detergent? And how hot was your water? I have found with a Maytag JetClean reverse rack dishwasher that they normally can clean anything you throw at them. That said, I had an issue with my WC302 that seemed to be losing wash power and come to find out that the lower arm split at the sides. It lost power in the lower arm and center tower and dishes were not washing well. Once the arm was replaced, the entire wash system was repressurized and it could clean anything I threw at it, and with a good detergent like Cascade.
The other thing is if you sprayed your pans with a nonstick spray before baking, that helps the dishwasher do its job properly too....

Post# 838444 , Reply# 49   8/27/2015 at 00:34 (639 days old) by A440 ()        
Neat Dishwasher!

So cool that you have this dishwasher to welcome you into your new home.  These Maytag's are such a neat beast and great cleaners! 


Glad to hear that your soap cup is opening up without any new parts needed. 


In fairness to your Maytag....these "Corningware" anything from this time period are a beast to clean!  Even if you clean them by hand with a Brillo pad!  I have had this stuff new out of the box and from the first time use of baking NO Dishwasher would have sparkling clean results.  I don't use them very often for just this reason.


I think it is too hard of a test.  I can tell you my KDS-18 or 17 would not have cleaned your dish even with it being on the bottom rack.  No way.


Glad you guys are enjoying your new home!




Post# 838469 , Reply# 50   8/27/2015 at 07:28 (639 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Mike - I am using Cascade powder at the moment (I figure if it cleans dishes in one of the impeller machines... LOL) and the hot water tank is set a 150.  I also used the 'Sani Wash/Heated Dry' option on the Maytag to help boost the temperature.   But the water here is pretty hard and I think the machine may have mineral build-up.   I'm going to do a little more cleaning of the machine before the next load.  


Funny, but I've tried using nonstick cooking sprays in the past and found they made no difference to soil removal in the dishwasher.   Maybe the formulations of the products here in Canada are different, but I found that good old-fashioned greasing and flouring gave me better results (mostly when removing the finished product from the pans).  


Brent - I guess I've had the same Corningware experiences you've had!  I found they need a darn good soaking and scrubbing to loosen heavy soils!  That's very likely why my Electromatic skillets are used as 'warmers' more than 'cookers'....


I'll do a little more tinkering with the Tag and hopefully we'll have a water treatment system in place soon!


Post# 838470 , Reply# 51   8/27/2015 at 07:32 (639 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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I had trouble with my corning ware getting clean in my Maytag RR as well as the KitchenAid. The Miele seems to handle it with no problem however. I am using the Miele brand of detergent.


Post# 838471 , Reply# 52   8/27/2015 at 07:33 (639 days old) by Magic_Clean (Florida)        
Well presoaking

the bakeware likely would have improved the outcome. The wash cycle is fairly short compared to current.

Realize this is a vintage discussion, but many new high efficiency machines with long main wash cycles and good enzyme detergents would clean this up without pretreatment.

Post# 838479 , Reply# 53   8/27/2015 at 07:56 (639 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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I use almost nothing but CW in oven cooking, mainly because it is an ideal cook-ware in my micro-thermal ovens. I DO use cooking spray which really helps it come clean. I always put the highly soiled items directly in the DW and am almost never disappointed with the results.


Water conditions probably did play a part in the poor cleaning performance here, but the other part is MTs poorly designed cycles on the RR DWs [ there was also never a Hobart KA DW that had well designed cycles for this really tough soil ], The other problem with the MT RR DWs is the lack of water movement and poor distribution patterns, [ you can even see in your test that one side of the dish is much cleaner than the other even though you had it placed in just about the best position possible. When I used to use Jon Cs TOL BD MT RR DW at his house at the cape I often took items out that got missed while everything around it was clean. These DWs just didn't throw the wall of water around that better DWs of the time did.

Post# 838480 , Reply# 54   8/27/2015 at 08:05 (639 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Bread pans are the hardest for most any dishwasher I've used - new or vintage.   Yeast bread, quick breads, etc. all the same when it comes to machine dishwashing.  I should have tried a dried-on loaf pan in the GE 1200 I just put in the kitchen last weekend, but I presoaked the three Pyrex and ceramic loaf pans I used before putting them in.  I'm pretty impressed with the GE so far, but have always liked the cleaning in a Maytag RR d/w.


Leslie may well be right about the modern d/w's and longer cycles, we've put some pretty scary stuff in my mom's Bosch and have never been disappointed.



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Post# 838483 , Reply# 55   8/27/2015 at 08:11 (639 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Oh dear.... Best not let Hubby hear any of this talk about modern dishwashers.  If he gets wind of this, he'll be doing that 'I told you so' dance until he wears his shoes out.... LOL 

Post# 838485 , Reply# 56   8/27/2015 at 09:02 (639 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
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As just about every owner of a RR has stated on this site they are phenomenal cleaners and their longevity in the marketplace speaks volumes of their popularity.
Talk about water circulation!! Wow. Two full sized wash arms and a tower. And according to Bernoulli's equation, force increases with a reduction in diameter or size of the aperture. So Maytag put a fine filter in to allow stinging jets of water to come from the pin-hole type of jets on the wash arms. Many jets were used to give a complete coverage within every part of the machine.

My biggest complaint is plastic-ware being toppled on its side by the force.

If the previous owner had hard water conditions, then there may be calcification of the mesh filter, hidden beneath the pump module cover below the lower wash arm.

A good soaking/scrubbing in CLR or Lime-Away should clean this nicely and give an increase in water flow to the pump.

Post# 838488 , Reply# 57   8/27/2015 at 09:47 (639 days old) by A440 ()        

Greg you new GE 1200 looks great in your kitchen! 

It looks so modern. 

Post# 838507 , Reply# 58   8/27/2015 at 14:53 (639 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Right, I figured I'd try cleaning that mesh filter on the Maytag sooner rather than later.  


Here's what the tub, filter and cover looked like before cleaning. 

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Post# 838509 , Reply# 59   8/27/2015 at 14:55 (639 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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And after a good soak and scrub (hmmm....sounds like a good name for a dishwasher cycle... LOL) here's what the filter and cover look like.  


A bit of an improvement!

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Post# 838511 , Reply# 60   8/27/2015 at 14:57 (639 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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I also gave the tub a bit of a scrub followed by a Rinse and Hold cycle.  It's looking better still!   I need to find me some Zud for that rust at the rear of the tub (I think that may be the water inlet area) but even Hubby will be impressed.   


Now, off to generate some dirty dishes for another test....

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Post# 838521 , Reply# 61   8/27/2015 at 15:30 (639 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
looks good!

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Good job cleanup on the filter, Paul. If you have some CLR, I would put in on the rust stains and let it set. Then put some in the dishwasher and run it through a cycle. That will also help clean the impeller area which very well may have some calcium deposits as well.

As mentioned, you might try Finish Powerball Tabs or the Finish Quantum. If you are using the extended cycle that will increase the length of the wash and give the enzymes a little more time to do their work and help loosen food soils. It also heats the water which will help the tablets dissolve.

Keep up the good work!!!

Post# 838523 , Reply# 62   8/27/2015 at 15:33 (639 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Barry, thank you for your help and for letting me know about that microfilter!   I hate to say it, but maybe if I'd tried that on the WU901....   Dang it.... 

Post# 838534 , Reply# 63   8/27/2015 at 18:10 (639 days old) by nmassman44 (Boston North Shore Massachusetts)        

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Wow that's some serious stain at the water inlet Paul. Methinks you have a high iron content in your water. I would also check the water inlet valve to check the screen and possibly clear it if it's clogged with grit or worse.
As far as Maytag being a poor water recirculator, I beg to differ. Those reverse rack machine were power houses and I never had an issue with stuff in the corners not coming clean.
Greg that GE 1200 is gorgeous! That dishwasher holds a ton of dishes and that Super upper rack holds an unbelievable amount of glasses and bowls. Washing is superb with that MultiOrbit wash arm too.
As far as detergent goes Paul, I wonder if the Cascade Platinum pacs would work better than the Cascade powder your using, especially with your water conditions.
The other thing I was thinking that your machine maybe direct drive and not belt driven. Those belt drive Maytags rumbled and I knew the dishwasher was running!

Post# 838539 , Reply# 64   8/27/2015 at 19:35 (639 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

bwoods, I think you should know that John was on the staff of a Maytag dealership so he had exposure to many Maytag appliances. Later, when John and Jeff opened their own business, their consistent top rating in Washington Consumer Checkbook opened doors of many customers who not only purchased top of the line appliances, but who also cared about good service to keep them operating which led to maybe a disproportional amount of Maytag and KitchenAid dishwashers in their service rosters.

What you call continued improvement was known by many service techs as Maytag's finishing engineering in the field rather than in the preliminary engineering stage before a product was introduced. As for their staying with the design for so long, it means nothing about its merits. Look how long they stayed with their washer and dryer designs with all of their many flaws. I am not totally knocking Maytag products, except for their stoves and refrigerators, but I am not putting them up on an altar either. Their first dishwashers had that 18 minute heated wash which etched the hell out of glasses. They cleaned, but destroyed glass.

As far as your put down of WP dishwashers, if you judge a dw by its performance, WP dishwashers have historically outwashed many much more expensive machines.

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Post# 838544 , Reply# 65   8/27/2015 at 21:14 (639 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        

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An individual's credentials or perceived credentials is a subject that has nothing to do with machine performance.

Maytag dishwashers, in the reverse rack era were very popular as premium machines. Manufacturer's keep product lines that have consumer loyalty. Maytag, although not personally my favorite company, had a dishwasher that trumped many of their competitors, such as Whirlpool. Nice features such as larger load capacity, an intuitive and consumer friendly racking system. A filtration system with automatic backwash, and high pressure jets, were years ahead of its competitors. And of course the most important feature as continually referred to by members is their washing ability.

And consistent washing ability. Whirlpools are hit and miss in the upper rack. Their continuous engineering improvements sort of went in reverse, just the opposite of Maytag who continually improved their machines. Whirlpool continually moved to designs with impeded performance. The design with the upper wash arm feed from a stream from the lower wash arm did fairly good in the top rack. But I found it was not always consistent on bowls, etc. with dried on foods like oatmeal. When they went to the "direct feed" performance went to a more inconsistent state in the upper rack.

When they went to the silverware rack on the door, they were greatly down rated by Consumer Reports, and my use of them confirms they do not wash silverware/flatware well, as you have water total blocked from one side of the silverware basket, and little surface area exposed to water on the top and bottom.

As one member mentioned the Whirlpool on door flatware rack "acted as a coarse filter" which I found to be the case as well. Especially dried cat food and meat particles would collect there. Even worse was the collection behind the silverware basket, caught in between the door and basket. And of course, when the lower rack is open you can't load silverware. And if you put large objects such as serving ladles (if you can even fit the in) into a Whirlpool on door basket, then they are so bulky you can't slide the lower rack out from the machine as the
objects in the silverware basket get in the way.

So I prefer Maytags engineering method of continual improvements, which make a good thing better, as opposed to Whirlpools degradation form of engineering.

The RR are a very well built, high performance machine. Consumer Reports was testimony to this as well as those on this site who use/have used them. Its nice to give credit where credit is due, and Maytag should be given credit for a finely engineered and finely performing machine!

Post# 838548 , Reply# 66   8/27/2015 at 21:58 (639 days old) by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
So far........

I have had only one Whirlpool dishwasher. It was good, but it cleaned no better than our first dishwasher, a WC400 that ran from 1973 to 1994, with only two comparatively minor repairs. The Whirlpool was a BOL with tower in my first apartment.

My current dishwasher, a 2005 GE Nautilus cleans well, but also no better than my WC400.

If I could find a reverse rack Maytag portable that wasn't beaten to helen gone, I would snap it up in a heartbeat!

I am very glad you're giving this one a fair trial, Paul!!!


Post# 838552 , Reply# 67   8/27/2015 at 23:16 (639 days old) by A440 ()        

Great job on cleaning the filter.  That was a lot of calcium deposits.  Or so it seemed.

Maytag had one of the best filter systems!  It worked fantastic with soft foods.

I think your Maytag will grow on you.  The RR is truly a dying breed. 

Nice to know so many of them are still going strong to this day.  Belt drive and direct.


Post# 838556 , Reply# 68   8/28/2015 at 02:01 (638 days old) by mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas)        

I love this dishwasher. A friend of ours has one and it was easier loading than my KitchenAid I bought this year. It cleaned really well. I'm envious of you!! Lol.

Well, I'd really like to have your recipe of the tuna casserole. I've been looking for one for a while. Any chance I could get you to post it? I'd definitely try it.

I bought a new KitchenAid dishwasher earlier this year. I'm not real thrilled about it, I don't like the long, long cycle times on it and if I had to rate it on a scale of 1 to 10 on cleaning, about a 6 or 7. I use Cascade packs, and a water softner and it still doesn't cut coffee or tea film off of cups or the coffee pot. I usually wash the dishes before loading. But I guess that's what you get with the newer appliances with water restrictions. Oh well. I have a friend, co-worker, that has a new dishwasher too, she washes by hand all her dishes, she said it takes too long. Glad I'm not alone.

Post# 838563 , Reply# 69   8/28/2015 at 05:21 (638 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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If prewashed dishes, just use the 60 minute cycle. 

Post# 838569 , Reply# 70   8/28/2015 at 08:34 (638 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The individual's credentials were to explain to you how John had exposure to so many Maytag dishwashers which you questioned, not to argue for a machine's performance or lack thereof.

Post# 838571 , Reply# 71   8/28/2015 at 08:57 (638 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        

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glad to hear it tomturbomatic

Post# 838574 , Reply# 72   8/28/2015 at 09:11 (638 days old) by bwoods (Oak Ridge, Tennessee (formerly Dayton, Ohio))        
partially clogged inlet valve

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I agree with Mike that the inlet valve could very well have a clogged screen and not be allowing the full amount of water to enter the machine. You can easily take the valve/solenoid apart and soak the screen in a little CLR. I've had to do this several times which machines I've had. If its not too coated, Paul, you can try white vinegar or full strength lemon juice concentrate, like RealLemon.

Post# 842968 , Reply# 73   9/26/2015 at 22:25 (609 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto)        

and I do mean absolutely NOTHING outperforms a Maytag RR dishwasher.
The best filtration of it's time and the racking was not only very flexible, but still to this day, the most capacious dishwasher I have ever loaded. And that is odd considering it's amazingly large cutout section for the fixed wash tower.
The key to loading one is knowing it's water distribution system well and loading according to THAT, and not so much on instinct, habit or competitors designs.
Every dishwasher's weakness is it's corners, so expecting miracles when loaded improperly will only result in continuous disappointment no matter what make of dishwasher.
Also, remember that it has a spray tower feeding it's upper rack, (quite literally the ONLY dishwasher where a spray tower was ever useful &/or effective), therefore bowls, large pots and deep jugs MUST be loaded on an angle to get full spray coverage and not a roughly 70% coverage. That's just logic and common sense really. But the average consumer was never expected to know that nor be that "intelligent" about using/loading a common dishwasher.
Seriously though, nothing beats them and I cannot wait to get mine eventually installed and enjoying it.
To those who have never experienced one and wish to, I wish you all the luck in the world in your search as you will never regret it or have as much fun with a dishwasher as you will with a RR Maytag.
Oh, just have ear plugs if you don't like anoisy dishwasher ;)

Post# 842997 , Reply# 74   9/27/2015 at 06:57 (608 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Sigh... I've got to try a little harder with that detergent cup problem - it's the last hurdle.  Otherwise, I have been using the machine and since we got the water softening system, I am noticing a huge improvement in cleaning ability.  It's just slightly inconvenient to have to hang around the machine and manually trip the main wash detergent cover; but I'll have to admit the 'Tag is cleaning well... 

Post# 843109 , Reply# 75   9/27/2015 at 18:24 (608 days old) by TwinTubber (Toronto)        
Glad to hear

that you are enjoying the Maytag and that it is performing better for you.
As for the dispenser, I had an issue with one years ago and I just set a timer for when the main wash started and then would go and open it.
That way, I wouldn't get distracted by anything and forget about it and regret it later.
The Maytag is only a 55 min. wash cycle on it's longest cycle anyway, sans water heating delays that is, so it wasn't a huge deal to turn it back to the main wash and start over from there if I forgot.
If that happened in the Bosch, well, electronics make you start over from the beginning-another 2-12 hours gone.
So I appreciate the shorter cycle times of the older machines buy that is also because they used water and power to do the job right.
Oh, and what do you think of the SOUND of it in action?
I think it's an awesome and powerful sounding machine.
Enjoy your new toy.

Post# 854545 , Reply# 76   12/1/2015 at 13:00 (543 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
And we're over the last hurdle!

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I have been using the Maytag here in St-Liboire reasonably often - I have to admit that most of the normal to heavy soiled stuff we throw at it (or in it is perhaps more appropriate...) does come out nice and clean. I've gotten used to the capacity and although I don't have a lot of front-loaders in regular use, I do find it's pretty easy to load and unload.

So last Friday, I decided to take off the front panel to see what exactly might be the issue with the detergent cup not tripping. I lucked out and found the original wiring schematic diagram tucked into the sound insulation on the inner panel - bonus! Now that I could get to it, I had to see if the bimetal trip lever was getting power during the main wash. I was very happy to see that it did. But the darn cup cover was still not getting released, so I looked a little closer...

And then it hit me - that ridge on the cup cover 'wheel' was not being held down by the bimetal trip lever. The operating instructions said to turn the cup cover to the right after filling the main wash detergent cup. What it didn't say was 'the spring is not very tight, so give it two revs and you'll be fine'...

I kid you not, that's all it was. I'm going to be doing some holiday baking in St-Liboire this week so I should have a test-load to try out very soon!

Is this a normal wear issue for a Maytag of this vintage? Should I be looking for a replacement cup assembly or will this gap me through until I put in the Spin-Tube?? Oh, no wait, the front-load Roto-Rack... LOL

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Post# 854564 , Reply# 77   12/1/2015 at 13:52 (543 days old) by chachp (Conway, AR)        
Front load Roto Rack....

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Uhem.............doesn't that sound like a fun change.  I remember one of my apartments in college had one.  Don't remember a lot about how it performed which probably means it performed well.  Although that was about XX years ago and there is lots I don't remember from that time period.


The idea of a spin tube intrigues me but I don't know that I'd want one as a daily driver.  I just don't know if they could handle the types of loads I'd throw at them.  I could be wrong.  I don't have one to test with and I don't think I've ever seen one in the area.

Post# 855960 , Reply# 78   12/10/2015 at 08:23 (534 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
How to make 'Detergent Cake'

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Grumble... I seem to have found the cause of the detergent trip dilemma but I still haven't solved it!

Although I seem to have gotten the detergent cup to open during the main wash portion of the cycle, the cup spring seems to lack the recoil to fully open the cup, leading to wetting of the detergent rather than complete dissolution.

So, methinks I need a new detergent cup assembly at worst, or the spring-loaded cam unit at best. I did some very basic searching and I'm not sure if these are the correct part numbers (902884) for the entire detergent cup and (902247) for the cam spring repair kit.

I tried PartSelect and RepairClinic online - they had a listing for the parts and quelle surprise, they were both NLA.

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Post# 855962 , Reply# 79   12/10/2015 at 08:32 (534 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Looks like the Northeast Chapter of Repair and Delivery of the United States might have to make a trip to straighten out this problem.


(High tails it out of the general area to parts unknown)  : )

Post# 855979 , Reply# 80   12/10/2015 at 10:05 (534 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Well c'mon up... LOL 

Post# 862546 , Reply# 81   1/18/2016 at 11:41 (495 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        
Looks like we have a solution!

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I knew that back in 2009 or 2010 when I parted out the WU901 dishwasher that had been in Ogden originally I had passed the detergent dispenser along to someone.  Well, that someone turned out to be Phil!  


He very graciously gave me the dispenser when he came to visit in Ogden last week.   But now that I'm back in St-Liboire, it's going to go back into active duty!

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Post# 862547 , Reply# 82   1/18/2016 at 11:42 (495 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Oh look!  The 90s Maytags had a porthole window like the Youngstown Kitchens Jet-Tower machines...  LOL

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Post# 862548 , Reply# 83   1/18/2016 at 11:43 (495 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Kidding aside, the 'new' dispenser was a snap to install.  

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Post# 862549 , Reply# 84   1/18/2016 at 11:46 (495 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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And while I had the front panel off AND I had to test the bimetal release anyway,  I thought I'd shoot a short video of it tripping.   The recoil of the spring in this version of the dispenser seems much more powerful than the newer one.  Methinks the problem is now solved! 


Since the 'Tag is going to stay after all, I think I'll have to paint one of those interchangeable colour-pack panels a kind of bluey-green... What's that called again?  Oh yeah, Turquoise!!!  LOL 


Post# 862761 , Reply# 85   1/19/2016 at 05:38 (494 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Great Paul.

One less thing to repair now.

FINE. I guess you won't be needing me anymore. LOL

Post# 863474 , Reply# 86   1/22/2016 at 08:44 (491 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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Oh Eddie...  You know I'll always need you..  I still have to get a certain Coppertone machine, after all.  LOL


So, as I mentioned in my thread about baking an Angel Cake in a glass tube pan, I figured that this would be a good test for the Maytag to see if adding detergent to the wash cycle at the right time really makes a difference.  


It did!  I regret that my photo of the pan before I ran the Pots And Pans cycle did not come out, but just look at the 'after' photo.  It's clean as a whistle.   I'm thrilled.  Canyon was thrilled.  Hubby...well, let's just say he's glad I'll not be doing a 'musical dishwashers' game in St-Lib anytime soon.  Although the '58 Frigidaire Spin Tube did say it was getting lonely in the garage... LOL 


As we say in French, j'ai fermé la boucle.    And I saved a dishwasher in the process!

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Post# 863563 , Reply# 87   1/22/2016 at 20:19 (491 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Curses! Outdone by the Northern Nemesis again!!!!!

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Other Yanks please correct me if I'm wrong but I've never seen a blue Maytag detergent dispenser, only white. Is this a Canadian detail??? Is this going to be like the Vintage Filter-Flo Mini-basket that's only anemic green in the states but in Canada it's gloriously blue????

Post# 863565 , Reply# 88   1/22/2016 at 20:35 (491 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        

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Geez Ken.

I never noticed that, but yup. Jens' is white.

Post# 863616 , Reply# 89   1/23/2016 at 06:08 (490 days old) by retro-man (nashua,nh)        

I had a reverse rack and the detergent dispenser was blue also.


Post# 863637 , Reply# 90   1/23/2016 at 09:03 (490 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
MT RR DW Detergent Dispenser

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I have seen blue ones also but never a two-tone one, did you assemble this one your self Paul ?

Post# 863947 , Reply# 91   1/25/2016 at 06:40 (488 days old) by turquoisedude (Ogden & St-Liboire (where??), QC, Canada)        

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I swear, I didn't do anything to it... LOL    It was the cup I pulled from the WU902 that was in the kitchen in Ogden when the GE Kitchen Centre in 2009 - I can't help but wonder if it was 'repaired' at some point or another...  I know the local repair guy in the Ogden/Stanstead area and 'mix and match rebuilds' would be right up his alley!  

Post# 866337 , Reply# 92   2/9/2016 at 11:32 (473 days old) by PhilR (Quebec Canada)        
Two color dispensers...

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I just saw another one in ad on Kijiji... 


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Post# 866387 , Reply# 93   2/9/2016 at 17:07 (473 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Two Tone Detergent Dispensers On MT RR DWs

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It must have been a Canadian thing, LOL.

Post# 866407 , Reply# 94   2/9/2016 at 19:01 (473 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
I think we ALL can agree

Either a RR Maytag or a Hobart Kitchen Aid will outclean ANYTHING on the market today, and both will do it in half the time!

Post# 866496 , Reply# 95   2/10/2016 at 14:42 (472 days old) by whitetub (Montreal, Canada)        

I don't know if the two tone detergent dispenser is a Canadian thing... as far as I know, all Maytag dishwashers, and washer and dryers, were made in the USA.
There was no Maytag Canadian factory.
Inglis Canada probably made the canadian Kenmore washers and dryers, and those were slightly different than the US Kenmore washers and dryers. But Maytags were all made in Iowa, back then.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Post# 935158 , Reply# 96   4/28/2017 at 15:27 by chachp (Conway, AR)        
Maytag fan drying

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So, I was cruising through some old posts the other day and came across this one with a lengthy discussion about how the RR drying works with the forced air.

Ironically, the other day, I was telling a friend of mine how the Maytag shoots this cloud of hot steam across the kitchen when the drying first starts. He asked me to video it and send it to him which I did. It lasts about 40 seconds or so and then the steam is gone and you just feel the warm air coming out. This machine is one of the better I've had at drying things especially plastic.

I thought it was appropriate to share here after reading all the chatter about how well they dry.


Post# 935170 , Reply# 97   4/28/2017 at 17:12 by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Thanks for the video, Ralph. That Maytag really does shoot out some steam! I'd hang a pair of wrinkled pants in front of it.

Post# 935175 , Reply# 98   4/28/2017 at 17:30 by maytaglvr (Columbia Heights Mn 55421)        
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In my opinion and god knows opinions are like assholes everyone has one.... but why on earth anyone would want to replace one of these with the new shit that is out there today on the market is beyond me. I bought my Mother a portable one for Christmas in 78 or 79 and was a year old and slightly used and it was sold with the house in 2012 and still worked perfectly. The only issue she ever had with it was the DD belt would need to be lubricated periodically otherwise it would scream. I had bought a use KA portable when I lived with my partner a few yrs later I bought my Mom here and I can't say as I really liked it as well as the Maytag and they were both pretty much the same model levels. I have 2 of the TOL fast advance timer models one installed in my apt and one for a spare for parts. They do a fantastic job of washing dishes and its done in half the time of any new crap that's out there today. Ok I am
off my soap box now. Everyone have a fantastic weekend out there in Automatic

Post# 935199 , Reply# 99   4/28/2017 at 20:34 by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
AMEN to that!

I would not trade a vintage DW or any other appliance for ANY new one...I don't have 3 hours to wash dishes, my 30 year old Kitchen Aid is done in 45 minutes!

Post# 935234 , Reply# 100   4/29/2017 at 01:01 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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My 97 DWC7602 Maytag does that too.  It's startled my cats a few times when the steam starts coming out.

Post# 935428 , Reply# 101   4/30/2017 at 05:54 by chetlaham (United States)        

I think what made customers dislike these was simply not knowing how to use them. I've been in homes of friends who have these (which were very popular in my old state because the area had a Maytag dealer) and it seemed like everyone loaded them with cups in the top rack, plates somehow crammed in the bottom. To someone who never used on of these, it would be easy to goof and load them much like they've been accustomed to. Personally, all dishwashers outside of the RR have it backwards. I find bowls tend to be more soiled then dishes, and like having to reach short silverware without bending down. But to each his own.

Post# 935436 , Reply# 102   4/30/2017 at 06:34 by chachp (Conway, AR)        
Divided as always! :)

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I think this group will be divided on this topic until the end of time.  The division seems to be around those who use them and those who have had to repair them.  I haven't had to do many repairs yet, so we'll see how that goes.  I like the concept of the power module but I haven't had to change one out yet.  I will always be partial to the older style Kitchen Aid one arm wonders but if I want help with the dishes on a daily basis I need a daily driver with multi level-washing.


I've only had mine a few months and so far I really like it.  Now that I am learning it's limits and how best to get the Bob Load certification I am finding I like it.  But there is a lot to be said for those who have the traditional rack style ingrained in their heads.  For example, my other half.  If there are already dishes in there he will follow that example but if it's empty I can guarantee you the cups and glasses will be on top and he will be calling across the house for help because the plates won't "fit."


I like mine so much I am on the lookout for a WU900 series machine.  I think that's the right model.  I want one with all buttons and the rapid advance timer.  I like the look of those machines and I'd love to find one in decent shape or one that needs minor repairs.  We are about to put the house on the market so I have been toying with the idea of leaving the Maytag here.  I don't want to leave one of my Kitchen Aid machines.  However, as I use it more and like it more I may just by some Piece of Crap at a big box store and put that in before we go.   We'll see.  Most likely the new owner will rip it out because, it's not stainless, or it's too loud, or it's too old, or it doesn't match the other appliances.  You know, one of the million stupid reasons we read on Craigslist every day.

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