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Water Hammer Arrestor for FL washer? |
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Post# 838820 , Reply# 1   8/31/2015 at 10:34 (3,153 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I have an LG WM3170CW and I first installed the arrestors on the outlets and it did help some, but I switched them to the inlet valves at the back of the washer, water hammer completely gone. So my recommendation is to install them on the inlet valves. I bought Sioux Mini Arrestors at Home Depot for $9.99 each.
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Post# 838958 , Reply# 2   9/1/2015 at 06:23 (3,153 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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A properly-designed washer valve does not 'slam' shut. At least they didn't from the 60s to the 00s. Rather they 'ramp' closed over roughly 2 seconds. You could see and hear it happen.
THESE (rolleyes) days, no telling what passes for design. So better spend $20 more to accomplish what the machine itself SHOULD have. It doesn't cost anywhere near $20 to design and build the machine's valves properly. Obviously, since the solution only costs that much INCLUDING mfg/wholesale/retail markup. But that's just how niggling* manufacturers have gotten. *niggling: "Annoying, troubling, or irritating in a petty way". |
Post# 839172 , Reply# 4   9/2/2015 at 07:13 (3,152 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)   |   | |
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Post# 839206 , Reply# 5   9/2/2015 at 10:20 (3,151 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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The sound of the banging pipes does indicate that perhaps things aren't secured well. This is a common issue with PEX also when loops in the walls will move around a "slap" against the drywall (PEX has less hammer issues overall though). Properly restraining the plumbing is advisable but remember to allow the ability for the pipes to slip axially in the clamps otherwise thermal expansion will cause noise from the pipe creeping in overly tight clamps...
Even with properly restrained plumbing, adding a little cushion into the system helps absorb the shocks that rapidly closing valves create. Having higher then average water pressure can make this worse too. The cushion is easily provided by trapping some air in the system to act as a spring to absorb the shocks from the non-compressible water. This can be as simple as designing in some vertical sections of pipe that go above horizontal runs therefor trapping a bit of air. The problem with a simple air trap is that eventually the air will disolve into the water and the trap will fill with water. Most all the commercial products have either a piston or a diaphragm inside to prevent the water from contacting the air and eventually waterlogging the device. The simplest use of an arrestor is to buy the ones that install at the shut off valve or on the rear of the washer using garden hose thread connectors. Alternately they could be permanently into your plumbing if you are handy and don't want them in the way. For the permanent installation style I really like the blue Watt's models that use an internal rubber diaphragm. I used to work for a company that built water cooled soldering machines, they would pulse the hot/cold input valves for temperature control. We shipped a couple of these with every machine sold to prevent problems.
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Post# 839224 , Reply# 7   9/2/2015 at 12:18 (3,151 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 839233 , Reply# 8   9/2/2015 at 13:16 (3,151 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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In my opinion there is no down side to installing hammer arrestors, it protects your plumbing from damage as stated in reply #7 by Mike. And while water hammer may be an indication of loose pipes in the wall, who in their right mind is going to start ripping out drywall to look for potentially loose pipes? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and at $20.00 it's cheap insurance. BTW, I only had a problem with this one time before, with a Fisher-Paykel Eco Smart that we bought in 2006, but it was much worse! The sound that was made when it filled would have woke the dead! I was very happy to get rid of this FP set. And the top load dryer was slower than the second coming of Christ
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Post# 839568 , Reply# 10   9/4/2015 at 14:16 (3,149 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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