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Post# 126658 , Reply# 1   5/5/2006 at 04:29 (6,565 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)   |   | |
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He everybody.good to be back. I was in the hospital but am o.k now.The LG Steam washer spins a full 1320 rpms I have no clue where these punks get there resources but a high spin is not really "bad" it just has a tendancy of causing wrinkles.They usualy come out in the dryer or during the steam process.
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Post# 126660 , Reply# 3   5/5/2006 at 05:28 (6,565 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Laundromat: Sorry to hear you were in hospital, hope you are now well! Spin speeds: High spin speeds on certian fabrics can cause damage depending upon their condition and construction. For instance fragile lace items or other delicates could be torn to shreds by long high speed spins. High final spins will also create tons of creases which as another poster stated usually come out in the dryer. However if one is going to iron the laundry after line drying, or if "damp dry" from spinning it can be a problem Hoover TTs spin very fast, at about 3100 or 2100 rpms, and one has to be VERY careful about what goes into that spin tub and for how long. Dress shirts can come out looking like who did it and ran, if care is not taken. There is a school of thought that final spin speeds over 1300 are not much use except in the most heavy of wash loads like towels. L. |
Post# 126666 , Reply# 4   5/5/2006 at 06:12 (6,565 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)   |   | |
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The speeds on spin driers and dual-tub machines can reach up to all those RPM's because the diameter of the tubs is tiny. 1320 RPM on a tub the size of the LG might equal or surpass that centrifugal force if you do all of the calculations. As for the Best Buy salesman: off in his own little world. I doubt that LG has retro-fitted its washing machines with alternators, but stranger stuff has happened. |
Post# 126677 , Reply# 6   5/5/2006 at 06:57 (6,565 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Miele states their new honeycomb drum is less damaging to fabrics than traditonal front loader tubs. IIRC there can be some damage after awhile if laundry is "sucked" through the holes during long high speed spins. Those pucker marks on laundry may look interesting, but it does mean those areas were being "push" through the holes in the tub as laundry was plastered to the tub during high speed final spins. Spinning is really a form of compression, which is fine for removing water, but not all fabrics can withstand such forces for long. L. |
Post# 126823 , Reply# 8   5/5/2006 at 18:53 (6,564 days old) by mistervain ()   |   | |
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Anyone have this washer, and could upload photos of it in action? |
Post# 126839 , Reply# 9   5/5/2006 at 20:48 (6,564 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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Post# 126928 , Reply# 10   5/6/2006 at 04:06 (6,564 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 126929 , Reply# 11   5/6/2006 at 04:12 (6,564 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 126930 , Reply# 12   5/6/2006 at 04:25 (6,564 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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I found this info on the Austrian electrical engineering association site...independent so probably trustworthy. Translation follows the German text, so just scroll down if you've already gargled this morning: Wie viel Schleudertouren sind notwendig? Es werden Waschmaschinen mit 1.600 Schleudertouren und mehr angeboten. Der Unterschied in der Restfeuchtigkeit von 1.600 zu 1.400 beträgt nur 2 %, nämlich 46 % statt 48 %. Aus der Praxis kann berichtet werden, dass Wäsche, die mit 1.600 Touren und mehr geschleudert wird, sehr stark knittert. Auch wenn sie im Wäschetrockner getrocknet wird, ist der Bügelaufwand wesentlich höher als bei Wäsche, die mit 1.400 Touren geschleudert wurde. Wird ein Wäschetrockner eingesetzt, sind Schleuderdrehzahlen von mindestens 800 U/min erforderlich, empfehlenswert sind 1.000/1.200. Im Abluft-Wäschetrockner wird pro % Restfeuchtigkeit mit 1 Minute Trockenzeit gerechnet. Das bedeutet, dass mit 1.600 Touren geschleuderte Wäsche im Ablufttrockner eine nur um 2 Minuten kürzere Trockenzeit als mit 1.400 Touren geschleuderte Wäsche benötigt. ENGLISH TRANSLATION (SUMMARY) What spin seed is necessary? Washers with spin speeds of up to 1600 rpm or higher are available to purchase. The remaining moisture in the clothing when spun at 1600 rpm versus 1400 is only 2%, or 46% (by weight, says Keven :-) instead of 48%. Practical experience shows that laundry which is spun at 1600 rpm or higher is very highly wrinkled. The time and energy spent pressing - even after machine drying - is definitely greater than for laundry which is spun at 1400 rpm. For machine drying a spin speed of at least 800 rpm is necessary. Speeds of 1000/1200 are recommended. In an exhausted clothes dryer (the only kind used in the US, says Keven), one may figure one minute drying time for one percent residual moisture. This means that laundry spun at 1600 rpm dries only two minutes faster than laundry spun at 1400 rpm. (end translation) Of course the amount of moisture left is not linear to spin speed...you can not say there is "only" 2% more water remaining to be removed at 400 rpm than at 600. The maximum effectiveness is reached between 750 and 1000. Everything above that is just marginally better. Hope this answers the question. |
Post# 126957 , Reply# 16   5/6/2006 at 08:44 (6,564 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)   |   | |
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Said: For the pucker marks on clothes-yes the cloth pushed thru the holes certainly could cause stress and weaken fabric fibers.And if they encounter rough or sharp edges in the holes-tearing could result. Way back we had a *contest* to see what the size was --let me finish-- of the space between the inner and outer tubs/drums in a washer. I reported my findings. I could NOT however get a short thin disposable wooden souvlaki stick ( OK=> a/k/a shis-kebob stick) into the holes of my FridGeMore front-loader. I did not realize 'til that point that there are MANY MANY more holes than in my top-loaders and they are tiny! Here is a pic of one stick that I believe is actually thicker than the one I had originally used. With it are two common items as a reference. |
Post# 126993 , Reply# 17   5/6/2006 at 11:52 (6,564 days old) by acerone ()   |   | |
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The Caniadian market will get this color. CLICK HERE TO GO TO acerone's LINK |
Post# 127027 , Reply# 18   5/6/2006 at 15:21 (6,564 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 127061 , Reply# 19   5/6/2006 at 18:11 (6,563 days old) by acerone ()   |   | |
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Not sure if I like it or not. |
Post# 127082 , Reply# 20   5/6/2006 at 20:19 (6,563 days old) by mistervain ()   |   | |
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Somehow, I think I like it better than the blue....even though it reminds me of that putrid burnt-orange so ubiquitous in the 70's....YECCHH! |