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Post# 847446   10/24/2015 at 20:51 (3,077 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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only $25

Am I wrong in thinking this is an A806?

I'm goo-goo-gaa-gaa for the color. With the shading it looks so rich compared to the dryer.


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Post# 847489 , Reply# 1   10/25/2015 at 01:58 (3,077 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Not enough buttons?

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It doesn't look like an 806 to me.  I don't think the panel lights up and there appear to be only two speed selector buttons instead of the four found on the 806.  It's probably the next model down.  Still a great machine and a great buy at $25 if it's operational.


Post# 847493 , Reply# 2   10/25/2015 at 03:43 (3,077 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
I'm thinking...

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that's a 606 with the pilot light above the timer dial. But that is a nice coppertone color & shaded at that!
:o)


Post# 847513 , Reply# 3   10/25/2015 at 07:55 (3,077 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I see 3 buttons---so it's a 407/408 Fabric-Matic


Post# 847596 , Reply# 4   10/25/2015 at 19:52 (3,076 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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I went to get it, it won't fit in the vehicle I drove there with, but will go back tomorrow with something larger.

I got at least a souvenir for today: the lid. I noticed it right away, the lid was sitting in place, but I could see there were no hinge balls. "Oh, yeah, that comes off, but it still works." the guy said.

I'm guessing this is like 1972ish. It appears to be all there, with some wear, but no apparent dents or damage.

It has a special feature that has me perplexed at the moment, but if it is what I think it is, will make it even more fun.

Bob, when you write "Fabric-matic" what does that refer too?



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Post# 847601 , Reply# 5   10/25/2015 at 20:03 (3,076 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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That's a very beautiful washer.  Fabric-Matic--it's a 1-speed washer--exactly what one would find in Maytag equipped Laundromats.  Regular is regular.  Perm Press supplants part of the spin between the wash & rinse for the cooldown phase and the subsequent spin is short.  The spin after rinse is shorter by a couple of minutes.  For Delicate, you set the timer on the maximum wash time.  The machine will do alternating periods of agitation for 1 minute and about a 3 minute soak twice I do believe.  The rinse agitation period is shortened.  The final spin may be also. 


Post# 847611 , Reply# 6   10/25/2015 at 20:29 (3,076 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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I don't know. I seem to remember seeing speed switches.

I should have taken a few pictures when there.

Oh well, the mystery and suspense continues.

Now my big dilemma: can I use gum balls for the hinges?


Post# 847625 , Reply# 7   10/25/2015 at 21:49 (3,076 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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I'm pretty sure the "Fabric Matic" types have a blank plate that reads "Automatic" where the speed selector buttons would normally be.  If you remember seeing that, then it's a single speed.  It's hard to tell from the picture in the ad, but I think the large lettering of "Automatic" would show up better if it were there.  My money is on speed selections.

 

Bob, did you blow up the photo?  I figured it was too grainy and distance too great for a zoom to help.


Post# 847638 , Reply# 8   10/25/2015 at 23:11 (3,076 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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Yes, you're right.

I've seen the 'automatic' badge on several single speed MTs.

This machine has button in all the openings.

It's a typical crummy Craigslist pic.

I'm impressed that people know the model numbers from memory. Now I know what an 806 and a 906 is, but not the others.... yet.



Post# 847639 , Reply# 9   10/25/2015 at 23:30 (3,076 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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This was recently posted in another thread and appears to cover the 1972 model line.   Personally, I wouldn't want anything lower than a 606.

 


Post# 847645 , Reply# 10   10/26/2015 at 01:32 (3,076 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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Delaney,
From what I can tell by looking at that C/L picture, that machine appears to be a CA606 from probably from the early 1970's. I can't remember when the copper color was dropped, but I don't think it made it to the mid 1970's. Since it's that old it will need some pretty major maintenance unless the previous owner took extremely good care of it and that's pretty unlikely. Most people just expect household appliances to run and they aren't concerned with maintenance until they break.

If it's a 606 it will have a pilot light above the dial and the switches below and to the right of the dial will be speed switches. Regular and gentle wash; two speeds. The hinge balls are available on line at Repair Clinic dot com and places such as that. There's a trick to putting those in. It involves a cup of boiling hot water, a spoon to retrieve the balls from the water, a bit of know how, brute force, and some patients. If you need more assistance I'm sure some of us will be around to help.

Brian


Post# 847652 , Reply# 11   10/26/2015 at 05:14 (3,076 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Ralph, I blew up the photo and see a "shadow" of a center button pushed in like there's a shadow for the other two places where buttons are pushed in for water level and water temp.  The markings on the timer dial are consistent with the unique features of the 407.  There was a basic cycle that was controlled by the 3 cycle/"speed" buttons.  The other portion of the cycle dial was an extended 28 minute soak cycle. 


Post# 847698 , Reply# 12   10/26/2015 at 12:04 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Thanks Bob -- that's something new I've learned.  I thought all the single speed machines had the "Automatic" plate where the buttons belong.

 

I remember when Sears had an outlet store here in the mid '70s, I'd check out the appliance section and there were always some Maytags there.   I remember the ones with the "Automatic" blank and knew they weren't as feature laden as I'd want -- because my mom's Sinister Snorge was on its last legs and replacement was imminent.

 

I'm betting if the outlet had offered a decent enough deal on a 606 or 806 it would have outlasted my mom, and I'd probably have it hooked up on my back patio right now as an auxiliary machine.


Post# 847706 , Reply# 13   10/26/2015 at 13:53 (3,075 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
I either got gypped, or I got extra whip cream on my sundae

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So, I picked it up, got it safely home and in the work shop, and looked it over.

Well..... check the pics and tell me what you think is going down here.

I plugged it in, it seems to work fine. Even without pushing the lid button it will go into spin (you know that isn't right). The speed switch does not seem to do anything.

Next up is removing access panels, checking it over, connecting the plumbing and seeing what drama awaits.


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Post# 847709 , Reply# 14   10/26/2015 at 14:11 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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OK, it looks like you have a 206 there.  It might be a suds saver model, but I don't see a suds selection on the dial.  I wonder if the control panel was switched out at some point.  Others will have to chime in on that.

 

It should indeed have two speeds, but the four water level selections are B.S.   That's a standard tub machine, which usually only has three levels.  The four level option at some point ended up only on the large tub models.

 

We had that same machine without the suds saver, bought used in 1986 and never had a problem with it in the 11 years we owned it.


Post# 847711 , Reply# 15   10/26/2015 at 14:25 (3,075 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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A206 doesn't have a soak cycle, AFAIK.  The one I have doesn't.  May be a 407 panel was put on it.


Post# 847719 , Reply# 16   10/26/2015 at 14:48 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
Soak Cycle

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Agreed.  I don't recall our 206 having a soak cycle.  This machine has been messed with and apparently lost its original control panel at some point.   It may be a challenge to find the correct panel (or panel guts) for it along with a timer that has the suds saver option.

 

If you don't think it's worth the effort, you can consider keeping it as a potential parts donor.


Post# 847791 , Reply# 17   10/26/2015 at 19:57 (3,075 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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The tub and agitator do not match the 4 water level buttons.  And as stated, a 206 did not come with a soak cycle.  And the suds saver mechanism is no longer there--that drain hose and hole out the back is what is covered up on the back. 


Post# 847798 , Reply# 18   10/26/2015 at 20:35 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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Bob, I'm not sure what you mean about the suds saver mechanism.  What is that uncovered pump looking thing with (presumably) an inlet and outlet in picture #11 above?


Post# 847812 , Reply# 19   10/26/2015 at 21:55 (3,075 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Photos #12 & 13, the round blue ting with the screws holding it to the back of the cabinet.


Post# 847830 , Reply# 20   10/26/2015 at 23:01 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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OK, thanks, but then what is that component that isn't covered up like the suds saver is?


Post# 847840 , Reply# 21   10/27/2015 at 00:01 (3,075 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
The access panels come off

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I'm not sure if the transmission is healthy, for starters. Something dripped. Was it oil or water? It doesn't look like oil.

No wires to the Suds valve. :-( I wanted to play with the suds saver...... [crying like a sugared up 2 year old, in need of nap]

What to think in terms of model number? As was pointed out, the base is a 206, which should be a 2 speed motor, yet the speed switch on the panel doesn't seem to affect anything.

Is it safe to say this panel is an 606? I mean it's chrome rather than the pale aluminum finish. Truth is, if one could switch out the panel, they could have also switched out the switches.

It's funny, I guess. Years ago, when I was refurbishing and selling, I created my share of swapped out machines, usually Kenmore-Whirlpool, or GE-Hotpoint combos (never a MT), and I wasn't always careful about updating model number info. on the machine.
Now I'm on the flip side, having to do a bit of deductive figuring.

Thank-you Ralph for the sales brochure. Huge help.

Now that there is a serial number, is it possible to figure the actual year this was made? And based simply on the looks of the panel, time material and trim, knob style, when that was made?

I want to keep the machine(s) in authentic condition. This panel would certainly not go with a 206.

Next up is connecting it to see how it works. It sounds like it's working right. I don't see a lot of rust from a leak, so..... The motor has play in it's mounting. It doesn't look overly worn, everything appears to be ok. For the first time in my adult like, I literally had to go buy a washing machine drain hose, 2 actually.

I took video, as I intend to share all appliance discoveries going forward. However, my editing software, which hasn't been used for actual videos, in about a year, has copped an attitude. I need to figure what's going on with Pinnacle/Corel.

If the timer has a blank space in it, would that be for the suds system, when one is wired, and what terminal to look for? I can wire up the suds valve with a temporary switch, until an appropriate machine becomes available.



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Post# 847857 , Reply# 22   10/27/2015 at 00:55 (3,075 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        

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The motor is supposed to glide back & forth, so if that is the play you're talking about, it's normal.

 

As for authenticity, I think you have it backwards.  That machine needs a 206 control panel (with suds saver option on the timer dial) instead of the one that's on there now.  Then the wiring for the speed switches, the three water level selectors, and suds saver would all be there.

 

As it stands now, it's anybody's guess how that machine would respond to any combination of settings.


Post# 848024 , Reply# 23   10/27/2015 at 20:15 (3,074 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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It's an early 606 panel due to it only have 3 water temps. 


Post# 848067 , Reply# 24   10/28/2015 at 00:33 (3,074 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

That is definitely an A206 body with an A606 head on its shoulders. Not sure how they made that work. I had a 206 growing up and a neighbor had a 606. I enjoyed being around them both, and honestly I never thought I would see a merger of the two.

Post# 848068 , Reply# 25   10/28/2015 at 00:34 (3,074 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

That is definitely an A206 body with an A606 head on its shoulders. Not sure how they made that work. I had a 206 growing up and a neighbor had a 606. I enjoyed being around them both, and honestly I never thought I would see a merger of the two models.

Post# 848071 , Reply# 26   10/28/2015 at 01:53 (3,074 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)        
"Not sure how they made that work."

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From what we've read so far, they didn't. 

 

This machine needs either an entire 206 suds saver control panel transplant or a 206 timer dial for a suds saver, paired with 206 panel guts that have the correct option buttons poking through those openings.  It doesn't have a chance of operating like it should until one of those fixes happens.


Post# 848072 , Reply# 27   10/28/2015 at 02:16 (3,074 days old) by beekeyknee (Columbia, MO)        

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It's an old Frankentag.

Post# 848177 , Reply# 28   10/28/2015 at 16:48 (3,073 days old) by hippiedoll ( arizona )        
coppertone seems to be creeping out of the woodwork recently

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there's this coppertone 206s/606, the ge coppertone stove & refrigerator just posted today (i think?) and, i've recently been lucky in the coppertone lottery strike too and found me a little coppertone treasure of my own.
yes, it is a coppertone maytag!
WOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!!!

i will be starting a thread in the "imperial" section. so go on over & check it out to find out about my recent coppertone find...
:o)

delaneymeegan:
i hope finding a control panel for your coppertone maytag won't be too hard to find.
keeing my fingers crossed for you....

i do have a question regarding finding a control panel, for those that are in the "know" of maytags;
could a control panel from a 208s be used as well??

the reason i ask is because it seems i remember seeing a white maytag 208s posted for sale, through craigslist, on here. i can't remember the price but i think it was within the last month or so. if the control panels would be interchangeable, than maybe it wouldn't be too difficult to find the control panel you need??
just a thought.....

again, keeping my fingers crossed for you.
as i was following this thread, i was so hoping that everything would be good with this coppertone & that it would have been in "plug & play" condition! hopefully something will turn up for you soon!!


Post# 848183 , Reply# 29   10/28/2015 at 17:21 (3,073 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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If someone switched the motor and control panel, why wouldn't it work as it should?

 

As to spinning  on it's own, it probably needs a lid switch. Yours is stuck closed.


Post# 848214 , Reply# 30   10/28/2015 at 19:06 (3,073 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
It's Alive ! IT'S ALIVE !!!!

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I had some time today to play. I got drain hoses yesterday.
And it wasn't disappointing.

Water hose connected with a cap on the hot line, drain hoses on (clamp not tightened), level machine, plug in....

and all the buttons work as they should. I was mistaken on the motor, it is 2 speed and works fine.

It had not been used in at least 4 months, according to the owner.
"It's been sitting in my garage over the summer.", He said.

The usual bits of lint and funky stuff that has dried out and fell to the bottom of the tub. After it agitated for 30 seconds I put it into spin for 10 second to discharge the heaviest stuff in the hose.

It started smooth. Sounds like a genuine MT. And that timer advancing... it's like a double clicking sound every couple of minutes. Its sounds so trustworthy.


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Post# 848215 , Reply# 31   10/28/2015 at 19:10 (3,073 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
Lid hige repair, pay attention everyone....

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As you know this hinge balls were gone before I acquire this. I thought I'd improvise, ...... and yes, I believed that this could work. :-/
I just don't know where things went wrong......



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Post# 848216 , Reply# 32   10/28/2015 at 19:19 (3,073 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
It goes through the cycle fine, but...

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The water valve drips/leaks. It could be I just need to tighten the hose. It's only hand tight.
The suds valve leaked, but again I didn't tighten the clamps. I hope that's all it is. I can't wait to get electric to this and see if it works.

There is a leak under that seems to be coming from the side of the tub. You can see it dripped onto the black drain hose. Don't know what that's about.

Pump and motor seem to work fine. It looks like something at one time leaked from the center but there's no leaking now. Also, remember this is a brown washer and the paint was over sprayed on the edges. It looks like rust on the inside, where the sides meet the bottom, but no.



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Post# 848221 , Reply# 33   10/28/2015 at 19:25 (3,073 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
Sump pump almost flooded

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This basement needs sanitary sump pump to lift the water out. [rolling eyes] It has frequently failed. Lucky it's only gray water. After draining the washer found it was just enough to fill all the way up and start to over flow.
And found a dead, or some would say sleeping, mouse.


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Post# 848227 , Reply# 34   10/28/2015 at 19:39 (3,073 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
I'm thinking....

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Thanks to everyone for your input and help. I've seen so many posts over the years and enjoyed the information relayed. I only hope I can help and/or entertain others as well.

I don't know what the leak is on the side of the tub. I hope it isn't rust through. I will remove the cabinet to get a better look.

Still have the issue with the mis-matched panel, though the machine works fine. These panels and machine bases were all pretty much mix and match. The suds valve at this point is just a holder for the drain line. But it's there and hopefully works.


The lid switch was simply taken out of the schematic. I think typically the cord connects on one side and there is a wire that connects from the other side to the timer. But hey, in order to be a true AWorg member, you need to know the importance of by passing, or rewiring, a washer lid switch. If you don't know..... your just a sad, sad washer collector wanna-be.

I'm going to clean up the base, wash and wax. Get the hinges. And keep the machine as is until another comes along that I can upgrade.

I'm just thrilled to have my 2nd washing machine (and it's coffee color, he-he) (1st one thanks to Washerlover- Todd in Lake Co. Calif.) to add to a collection. I haven't collected since 2002.

I'm already looking at a third....


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