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Thread Number: 62228
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
lg front load inner workings |
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Post# 848228 , Reply# 2 10/28/2015 at 19:41 (3,100 days old) by GELaundry4ever  (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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model 2487 What does the 2487 look like on the inside? How big is the drive motor of this machine? I was under the impression that this is a direct drive. Where are the ball bearings? What type of grease do they use? What about the suspension system? | ||
| Post# 848243 , Reply# 3 10/28/2015 at 21:10 (3,100 days old) by mwb (Missouri) | ||
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I've got an idea for you Jerome. Why don't you research this and come back and give us a full report ..... | ||
| Post# 848253 , Reply# 4 10/28/2015 at 22:05 (3,100 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
Google is your friend
Seriously Jerome, do some internet research. All these parts you want to see are readily available on the internet and Youtube.
Look up repair videos. Search for LG and Samsung patents in Google Patent search. Look up repair parts via a model number search on RepairClinic. I've been feeding my curiosity this way for years. Why do you expect us here to spoon feed you EVERYTHING? | ||
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Post# 848436 , Reply# 7 10/29/2015 at 17:10 (3,099 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York) |
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 Slowdown folks, we are dealing with a young man here and we need to take our time to show him the rope! This maybe his first major message board participation that he has joined and it takes time to learn and understand how it works... Some message boards are complex or inefficient with data that makes even me go crazy, take a moment and remember how we all got started! I've seen a recent Hozzer (THS/GardenWeb) thread who was former member of this site who is still bitter from what happened in the past wrote a nasty gram about AW.org.. What enter the internet, stays on the internet for life and viewed by millions. Thinks about it?! Share and post links to help those who not tech savvy! | ||
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Post# 848448 , Reply# 8 10/29/2015 at 18:06 (3,099 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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spinning the drum Does the drive motor inside the machine create voltage when I spin the drum, which may cause the machine to turn on, or does it stay off like other brands like whirlpool? | ||
| Post# 848461 , Reply# 9 10/29/2015 at 19:04 (3,099 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth) | ||
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| Post# 848471 , Reply# 10 10/29/2015 at 21:20 (3,099 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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spinning the drum on a late DD GE... I spun the drum briskly on my 2012 Chinese made 24"direct drive GE and nothing happened-have heard many times LG DD s will light some of the indicators if spun. | ||
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Post# 848476 , Reply# 11 10/29/2015 at 21:53 (3,099 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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been there, done that I have done it before, but wasn't sure if it would turn the machine on. | ||
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Post# 848483 , Reply# 12 10/29/2015 at 22:52 (3,099 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 What happens on my Fisher & Paykel direct drive topload washer is this: 1) If there's a load running and a power failure occurs during spin, the motor will generate enough power to keep the electronics on and the lid lock engaged for safety purposes until it coasts to a stop. Then the machine turns off and remains off until power returns and the cycle resumes where it stopped. 2) If there's a load running and a power failure occurs during any operation other than spin, the machine simply stops and remains off until power returns and the cycle resumes where it stopped. 3) Rotating the drum by hand when the machine is off does not cause the controls to turn on, but if rotated fast enough the motor may energize into a braking mode. | ||
| Post# 848501 , Reply# 14 10/30/2015 at 03:14 (3,099 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
The LG s still lite up but go off as soon as the drum stops. I do, it at Home Depot to show the customers as the salesmen watch in amazement. If you go to Facebook, I have still photos of the disassembled 2277 Steam model. I had to replace the barings,tub seal,inner tub,outer casings and pump. I found it in a trash heap free. I sold it for $750.00
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| Post# 848502 , Reply# 15 10/30/2015 at 05:00 (3,098 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Very much like the little green light on the floor nozzle of a Kirby? | ||
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Post# 848507 , Reply# 16 10/30/2015 at 06:07 (3,098 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Yes,like the floor nozzle of a Kirby-a simple electric generator.The brushroll has a small magnet that goes past a coil of wire connected to a LED.When the brushroll spins at the right speed-the LED gets enough voltage to light. | ||
| Post# 848557 , Reply# 17 10/30/2015 at 10:36 (3,098 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
There are some videos on Youtube Where they use a F&P top load drum and motor as a waterfall generator.
Electric motors are just generators in reverse. It's a way of transmitting the mechanical energy converting it to electric energy and converting it back to mechanical energy. (whew, I'm glad I was awake that day in Physical Science class). | ||
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Post# 848598 , Reply# 18 10/30/2015 at 12:08 (3,098 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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circulation pumps and drive motor operation I could've sworn that there are models with circulation. How does the motor know when to turn in the opposite direction? Example: cotton/normal operation. How does the machine know when to turn on the circulation pump? | ||
| Post# 848603 , Reply# 19 10/30/2015 at 12:18 (3,098 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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How does the machine know when to turn on the circulation pu Through the machine's electronic controller. They actually control everything, this is why they are needed because many of the operations the electronics monitor and control are far beyond the abilities of older mechanical timers. If the mechanics were able to control everything they would be so large and complex that their cost would outweigh that of the machine.
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Post# 848605 , Reply# 20 10/30/2015 at 12:21 (3,098 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 848726 , Reply# 21 10/30/2015 at 18:36 (3,098 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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short bursts I have to wonder how the computer tells the machine to add water in short bursts. Why does it do this? | ||
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Post# 848727 , Reply# 22 10/30/2015 at 18:42 (3,098 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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water level and suspension What does the suspension system look like in the lg front loader? How full of water is the outer tub if I barely see any water? How does water saturate the clothes if I barely see water after filling and before circulation starts? I am talking about when tumbling. | ||
| Post# 848752 , Reply# 23 10/30/2015 at 21:02 (3,098 days old) by oliveoiltinfoil (England, UK) | ||
Why have some of you guys got to be arseholes? This is a washing machine thread. You guys are supposed to be experts and enthusiasts. Believe it or not you can't find absolutely everything about everything on the internet. There are a handful of videos which show bits and pieces. Maybe the guy was thinking some of you had pictures, being technicians of machines and so on.
These forums are so hostile at times. | ||
| Post# 848753 , Reply# 24 10/30/2015 at 21:16 (3,098 days old) by yoblount (TX) | ||
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Post# 848761 , Reply# 25 10/30/2015 at 22:25 (3,098 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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I have to wonder how the computer tells the machine to add water in short bursts. Why does it do this?The cycle programming embedded into the logic chips on the board controls every aspect of the machine's operation ... just like Windows or whatever is the operating system on your computer or phone controls its operation. A water level sensor, same as on any other washer, monitors the water level in the tub. The control board adds water until the sensor registers the correct level. Filling is done in short bursts to give the tumbling load time to absorb water and get saturated and minimize the need to add more water later. If filling was done very quickly, the water level in the tub may register as full on the sensor before the load is fully saturated. | ||
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Post# 848850 , Reply# 26 10/31/2015 at 10:52 (3,097 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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What does the suspension system look like in the lg front loader?I don't have an LG to show its construction but perhaps these pictures of a Whirlpool Duet will help clarify for you. I imagine most frontloaders have a similar suspension arrangement. The tub hangs on large springs at the top and is supported and cushioned by hydraulic shocks beneath. You can see the two shocks beneath toward the front, there are two more at the back.
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Post# 848852 , Reply# 27 10/31/2015 at 10:59 (3,097 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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How full of water is the outer tub if I barely see any water? How does water saturate the clothes if I barely see water after filling and before circulation starts? I am talking about when tumbling.These next pictures show with the front half of the tub removed how much space is between the outer tub and inner drum on the Duet. There's a deeper sump area at the bottom which of course has to completely fill with water until there's enough to reach into the drum. The water heating element fits into the metal clip at back of the sump.
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Post# 848855 , Reply# 28 10/31/2015 at 11:16 (3,097 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Another view of the drum and tub. Water saturates the clothes by way of the fill flow spraying directly onto them if the machine's design does that, and by the clothes tumbling through the water as rises up at bottom of the drum.
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| Post# 848890 , Reply# 29 10/31/2015 at 13:21 (3,097 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
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Dadoes | ||
| Post# 848896 , Reply# 30 10/31/2015 at 14:33 (3,097 days old) by washerdude (Canada ) | ||
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Never seen the inside of the older Duets. It does seem that newer Duets are being built better actually. The tub hangs off of a strong metal bracket which goes across the top unlike the tub hanging off the side panel on older ones. | ||
| Post# 849085 , Reply# 31 11/1/2015 at 10:46 (3,096 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
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balance ring | ||
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Post# 849150 , Reply# 33 11/1/2015 at 18:10 (3,096 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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GHW9400PW4. 2004 model year, mid-2006 manufacture date per serial. It doesn't have any physical off-balance switches so sensing is done via software and monitoring of rotational inertia. It was bought used ... or more accurately the matching dryer was bought used and the washer (which had been condemned for bad bearings) was tossed-in for free upon request. It's not mine. I refurbed the pair for a friend for use at one of his rental properties that needed a stacked set. There's a thread back in Nov 2012 covering that process. I used it for several weeks after finishing the job and found it to be an impressive piece of machinery. The renters haven't had any problems that I've heard, and I would have / will hear about it if they do. | ||
| Post# 849188 , Reply# 34 11/1/2015 at 21:36 (3,096 days old) by stevet (West Melbourne, FL) | ||
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Thanks for the info. I don't think ours is that old but I bet they are very much related. My exact model is WFW9150WWOO Ser. HLY4590937 WITH A 4.0 cu.ft drum. I will check and see how close they are and what might be interchangeable. Always looking to improve the cleaning ability of this machine. | ||
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Post# 849224 , Reply# 35 11/2/2015 at 06:31 (3,095 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Post# 849245 , Reply# 36 11/2/2015 at 08:59 (3,095 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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interest setup I have to say that the inner workings have an interesting setup. | ||
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