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Post# 849083   11/1/2015 at 10:43 (3,070 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

Well, I guess most of us remember V-Zug. That incredibly expensive, probably most TOL washer avaible in the EU, Swiss-made, with touchscreen and heatpump heating in their TOL washer (and DW by now)?

Well, another big swizz washer producer is Schulthess. Originating from the professional market, they have a home lineup as well.

And as I found out today, they redesigned their line-up.
Notice this funky drum, with paddles kind of like the Dyson cotrarotator, and them following up the 1 hour wash cycle trend.
Oh, and their 2nd from the top model being avaible as top-control model.

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Post# 849098 , Reply# 1   11/1/2015 at 12:15 (3,070 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)        
these look very cool

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Wonder if they will try to bring to North America.... 


Post# 849230 , Reply# 2   11/2/2015 at 07:20 (3,069 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I love that the Swiss know how to use electricity. These Schulthess draw 4kW, the V-Zug ones 3.5. Most cycles only take around an hour.

Post# 849234 , Reply# 3   11/2/2015 at 07:39 (3,069 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Good looking machines! The Swiss always had cheap electricity rates due to their hydropower. Why skimp on heating capacity when you have electricity enough.

Post# 849459 , Reply# 4   11/3/2015 at 06:04 (3,068 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Schulthess

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Have always like these machines after seeing a few in commercial installations. the new styling looks V-Zug like and looks easy to use with it touch interface!!
Of course it is the Ultimate in High Efficiency washing, but thats not a new fangled spec, its been used as a methodology since the first models where introduced.


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Post# 849571 , Reply# 5   11/3/2015 at 16:47 (3,068 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Schulthess Drum

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Complimentary green paddles in the new drum...and the link to download the laundry brochure.


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Post# 849682 , Reply# 6   11/4/2015 at 03:51 (3,068 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Schulthess

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I do like the idea of twin heating for rapid water heating when required , am sure that is only beneficial for the larger capacity washers. The rapid wash on Zug and Asko machines suits domestic programmes I can complete a 95d cotton wash with 3 rinses and 1600spin in just under 1 hour when required.

Post# 850071 , Reply# 7   11/6/2015 at 04:32 (3,066 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Schulthess Commercial Dispenser

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This would be great for use on a domestic washer - rather like the Dispensall, look at those individual pull out compartment cups!!

Post# 850092 , Reply# 8   11/6/2015 at 07:57 (3,065 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Dreamy !!

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Send me one Louis !!

 

 


Post# 850116 , Reply# 9   11/6/2015 at 10:26 (3,065 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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The larger Miele Pro washers use the same type of dispensers. Also, the Schulthess dryers have a lot of Bosch in them.

Post# 850117 , Reply# 10   11/6/2015 at 10:31 (3,065 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
"Send me one Louis !!"

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I'm certainly not going to schlepp that to the postkantoor mister!

Post# 850126 , Reply# 11   11/6/2015 at 12:42 (3,065 days old) by Askomiele (Belgium Ghent)        

More paddles, increased mechanical action, so the machine can decrease on time / temperatur or chemicals (detergent/water mixture)? The maytag neptune had a simular design.

Btw a small side note, with the VW dieselgate, and the energylabelgate..., some of the brands let us to believe that heating 10 l of water with a 1200 watt heater was more efficient than heating that 10 l with a 3300 watt heater, it was only slower. Schultess adds more power ending up with quicker cycles! Me kinda like ^^


Post# 850417 , Reply# 12   11/8/2015 at 08:40 (3,063 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
LOLOL Louis!!

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Get schlepping Mister !!

 


Post# 850425 , Reply# 13   11/8/2015 at 10:40 (3,063 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
@Askomiele

As far as I understand, the idea behind low wattage heaters is to reduce the actual temperature of the heating element it self and thus reduce energy wastage by energy being stored in the element and thus continuing to release energy even after voltage supply has stopped. And in todays machines, where they fight for 10 or maybe 20 watts saveing, this - as stupid as it sounds - is an easy, costefficient and working way.

On the other hand, any washer that is specificly designed for the Swiss market (V-Zug, Schulthess, Wyss-Mirella) I came across had several options in terms of heating power, all including 400V set up.


Post# 850426 , Reply# 14   11/8/2015 at 10:41 (3,063 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
@ Jon

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Post# 850441 , Reply# 15   11/8/2015 at 11:05 (3,063 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Miele also makes 400V machines for Switzerland. 400V, 10A, total power draw 4.4 kW. However, the cycle length and power consumption is identical to, for example, the German units.

Post# 850453 , Reply# 16   11/8/2015 at 12:10 (3,063 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
@Louis

You know she eventualy says "Computer says yes!" when you ask for a cruise arround the world, first class, for 700£?

Post# 850469 , Reply# 17   11/8/2015 at 13:18 (3,063 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Hush Henrik! We don't want to tell that to a certain person.

Post# 850470 , Reply# 18   11/8/2015 at 13:19 (3,063 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ahh

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Why Danka Henrik !!!!

 


Post# 850471 , Reply# 19   11/8/2015 at 13:32 (3,063 days old) by swisslaundry ()        
Hello community - Swiss washing machines

Hello everyone,
I've been following this forum for years, however I just decided now to become a member of aw.org :-)
I'm living in Switzerland and of course I'm common with almost all swiss brands. Currently there is a V-ZUG Adora SLQ in my laundry room together with a vented V-ZUG Adora TLA dryer. I really love the big capacity, the short washing times (thanks to 400 Volt) and the quietness of the washing machine. Before the V-ZUG I had a Schulthess Spirit XLI, a really sturdy machine, even shorter washing times, very high water levels if desired and so on.
Because I buy appliances and resell them for more money, I tested/washed with about 30 different washing machines and dishwashers (mostly newer models of Swiss Brands and Miele). The most expensive one was the Unimatic T of the newest generation, which is not sold anymore.
When I have more time, I will upload a few pictures.




Post# 850474 , Reply# 20   11/8/2015 at 13:54 (3,063 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Swiss Laundry

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A warm welcome to you Nico, you have the very best of laundry appliances and we all look forward to seeing your pictures and discussing the different models, am interested to hear especially about the new generation Unimatic T.

Cheers, Mike


Post# 850475 , Reply# 21   11/8/2015 at 13:56 (3,063 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Oh Louis...

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"He has ways of making you talk!!





Post# 850476 , Reply# 22   11/8/2015 at 14:16 (3,063 days old) by swisslaundry ()        
Photos of Schulthess and V-Zug Unimatic T

Hi Mike, thank you!
Mike you've got a good collection, hope you're Adora SLQ is still going strong.
Here are some pictures of my Schulthess Spirit XLI which was was my daily-driver and Merker washing machines that I sold.
I will post pictures of the Unimatic T in another thread. It's a very silent washing machine, can spin almost everything without rebalancing it ramping up very fast to extract a lot of water in a short time, same capacity as the Adora SLQ 60L drum volume. One thing I didn't like is that there is no option to set a higher water level. If soil-level is selected on very dirty it will take more water. I prefer the water levels of the Adora.

Cheers


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Post# 851181 , Reply# 23   11/12/2015 at 07:23 (3,059 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Hi Nico! Welcome on board!

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That Schulthess drum looks a lot like the Speed Queen over here. I'll snap a pic later .

 

Nice machines, how is it that you can buy, use and sell these machines for more than you paid for them?



Post# 851191 , Reply# 24   11/12/2015 at 09:04 (3,059 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Maybe he restores them.

Post# 851232 , Reply# 25   11/12/2015 at 15:34 (3,059 days old) by swisslaundry ()        
What I do with those washers

Hi guys
Haha, no I don't restore them. Sometimes, if I'm fast enough and lucky, I can find good washing machines for little money. I pick them up, I do a maintenance cycle with citric acid, replace broken parts if needed and then, I take good photos of the machine and add a good description of the machine. I usually resell them for at least double of the initial price. And this works fine. I'm still a student and if I'm not to busy I can follow my hobby and earn money at the same time. Every single buyer was pleased with the machines I sold :D

I'll just share some photos of the Adora S (produced until 2006) and the Unimatic T (produced until 2014), it might be the wrong thread for this but anyway... more photos will follow soon

Cheers


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