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Post# 849841   11/4/2015 at 21:24 (3,092 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Reading through late 1940's and early 1950's old issues of Consumer Reports it seems the only wringer washer they really liked was the Maytag square tubs. They considered the Norge and a few others such as the Maytag round tub "acceptable" but found much fault with the rest of the offerings. Everything from laundry being damaged by drain coverings to wringers that lacked enough safety features.

Have seen so many wringers on fleaPay and CL but a bulk seem to be from the three major camps; Maytag, Speed Queen and Whirlpool/Kenmore. Where these the best of what was out there?





Post# 849853 , Reply# 1   11/4/2015 at 22:29 (3,092 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)        

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Grammy's Maytag wringer finally locked up and I am not messing with it. I would love to have a wringer washer that I could have in my shed to do any wash that can use cold so that I dont have to send 40 gallons into my septic every load. I would take any of those brands Laundress, as long as they worked. I dont believe any of the brands really had any different agitation, but a different agitator? Who knows. Those wringers that had the exposed drain in the tub, instead of under the agitator, did catch clothes when something caught on them like a zipper and ripped something on the next load.

Post# 849855 , Reply# 2   11/4/2015 at 22:34 (3,092 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
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It's hard to say..Maytag seems to be the dominate force, possibly there where more made, and I know for a longer period of time.. (why there's still parts for them) Think they manufactured them as late as 1983?
Don't understand why Maytag square tub would be better Maytag round? Same motor, gearbox, wringer mechanism. The square holds hot water a little longer, and holds a couple of gallons more, but the aluminum tub is prone to darkening and spotting with use of chlorine bleach, oxygen bleach, powdered detergents. The round porcelain isn't.
Without ever using a Speed queen wringer, I'd imagine it was a really good washer, with stainless steel tub, but don't see as many out there, like you do Maytags.


Post# 849856 , Reply# 3   11/4/2015 at 22:39 (3,092 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Not exactly in Maine

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Post# 849857 , Reply# 4   11/4/2015 at 22:43 (3,092 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Maytag Round vs. Square

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Cannot figure out why the round is deemed less worthy but some things one has read says it was the "lower priced" machine of the two. So perhaps Maytag did some scrimping?

Yes, prefer porcelain over aluminum tubed washer any day of the week. After nearly ruining my minty Hoover TT by using some Cheer powdered detergent won't be doing that again. Took all the nice luster and shine away.


Post# 849859 , Reply# 5   11/4/2015 at 23:18 (3,092 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I believe that the only difference between the round tub and square tub Maytag wringer was the capacity. The round tub model N is smaller. And in my opinion the model J porcelain square tub is slightly larger in capacity than the square tub model E with the aluminum tub. The advantage of the model E is that the tub is insulated, thereby keeping the water hot longer. My family had a model E and I had a model J, so I've had experience with both. In my opinion they both washed beautifully, but the model J held just a little more. These Maytag wringers are really wonderful machines. It is a Zen like experience doing laundry with a Maytag wringer.

Post# 849864 , Reply# 6   11/5/2015 at 00:18 (3,092 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
Just checked

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Only the model E was produced until Nov 1983. So lots of E models out there, and parts.
I believe the model E and J held the same amount of water.. 18 gallons. The J may have looked like it held more, but it's because the J had no lip around the tub. (Optical illusion) the round tub held 16 gallons.
The model E was the top of the line, only because of the hinged lid, but all machines had the same mechanicals.. No scrimping from one to the other. Even the ones with gravity drain, had pre drilled holes on the cross bars for a pumps to be added if needed later.
Here's a pic of Geoffs Maytag line up. All three are pump models.


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Post# 849868 , Reply# 7   11/5/2015 at 01:05 (3,092 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
The Square tub in Maine

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Looks good. It's a pump model, porcelain tub, holds 18 gallons, and it's only $50.00.
Too bad it's so far from you.


Post# 849928 , Reply# 8   11/5/2015 at 10:27 (3,091 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

But in the 30s, before Maytag redesigned their machine, CU did a test where they filled the machines, dissolved washing soda in the water and let them sit for 8 hours or over night. The aluminum high drive post of the Maytag was really eaten up by the alkalinity and the machine was downgraded for that. After they went to the low post drive, Maytag could do no wrong.

No wringer washer got more than a B intermediate rating because of the danger of the wringer, but many got lower for various reasons. Some spinner-type machines got A Recommended ratings because they were safer, but some were down graded because they moved around too much when the spinner was in action. HELP ME! HELP ME! I've got a runaway washer.


Post# 849932 , Reply# 9   11/5/2015 at 10:43 (3,091 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Square Tub

If Maytag could have made a automatic that washed like the square tubs did, no one else would have had a chance..LOL Something about the square tub makes it wash better, I don't know why...


Post# 849933 , Reply# 10   11/5/2015 at 10:48 (3,091 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

I have several wringer machines and they all work well. Maytag, ABC, Dexter, GE and Speed Queen. I like my Easy spinner too.
Have fun finding the one that you want. Happy washing. Gary


Post# 849949 , Reply# 11   11/5/2015 at 11:45 (3,091 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Hans, I think it was the width of the tub that made the Gyrator work so well. The water currents set up by those 4 big high fins resulted in a nice rollover action. When they put the same size agitators in the narrow tubs of the automatics, there was not enough room for the clothes to move as they did in the wringer washer tubs, but did that stop Maytag? Hell No. They just put a lid switch on the machine so that no one could see what wasn't happening.

Post# 850012 , Reply# 12   11/5/2015 at 19:55 (3,091 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Was the Kenmore "Visimatic"

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Only wringer washer with a two speed motor? Even then they seemed to have come late in the game. Why didn't more machines have the option for either "fast" or "slow" speeds? Some of those agitators look like they meant business on "high", wouldn't want to risk my lace curtains or dainty things....

Post# 850021 , Reply# 13   11/5/2015 at 20:44 (3,091 days old) by repair-man (Pittsburgh PA)        

My Great Aunt used nothing but a wringer washer. When her 60's era Lady K Visimatic was replaced in the early 80's with a brand new Maytag she had my Uncle put the two speed motor in the Maytag.


Post# 850038 , Reply# 14   11/5/2015 at 22:40 (3,091 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        

I think I may have read in the Consumer Reports from the last 30's that Thor was down rated because of the use of fiber gears in the transmission that didn't hold up for very long. Apex was down rated because of some leakage of electric current that found it's way into the wash water.
I believe that ABC was the 2nd. or 3rd. largest make of washing machines in the 30's and 40's.
Drain covering were better if they were under the agitator. My ABC and Dexter are out along the bottom of the machines with a metal screen sort of thing that covers the drain hole. I have never had any snagged or torn cloth from that.


Post# 850039 , Reply# 15   11/5/2015 at 22:47 (3,091 days old) by golittlesport (California)        
Two speed wringer washers

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...were pretty rare, but I think one of the first was Universal, who had a two speed model back in the 50's. I believe later model Easy spindriers also had two speed option.

Post# 850059 , Reply# 16   11/6/2015 at 00:32 (3,091 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
Maytag

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Wringers only had one speed.
Someone here's got a Vitamatic 2 speed..mickeyd has one I think. You might contact him, and he may have shot, or will shot a video of it in action on slow speed.


Post# 850185 , Reply# 17   11/6/2015 at 21:21 (3,090 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO)        
Just goes to show

All wringers are similar but NOT the same. Maytag was the clear market leader. Well known for their quality, workmanship and reliability. The Cadillac of washers in that day. Even though they made the "value" J (Buick) and N (Chevrolet) models, they were still a bit more expensive than the competition. So alas, if you had $100 itch and 2 bucks to scratch it with, you went with the other brands.

Speed Queens were popular. My Mom's 1st washer. From what she told me, after WW II as factories ramp back up to pre-war manufacturing, there was still a lag in availability. My Mom said she had a Speed Queen because there was a wait list and that was the first washer that became available at the appliance store in Kenmore NY. I remember using it as a kid. It didn't have a stainless steel tub but it did have an aluminum 3 vane agitator and wringer apron. Maytag had the 4 vane and I always wondered if that made the agitation 25% better? The only 4 vane agitator washers I've ever seen was on Maytags and Bendix Economats.

I agree with ea56. Washing in a Maytag wringer is a Zen experience. I've been using mine almost exclusively for 3 years now and I love it! I could wash with it ALL day. And I'd still like to try an Easy Spindrier, but those are so rare compared to the more common wringer. Cost had to be a factor there. They had to have cost more.


Post# 850193 , Reply# 18   11/6/2015 at 22:04 (3,090 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Easy SpinDriers

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Seem to me an obvious attempt to give Madame what she wanted; the large capacity and water saving ability offered by wringer washers, but without the danger of a mangle (wringer).

Personally my idea of heaven would be a good wringer washer and one of those Monex extractors. Sort of like the set-up Martha Stewart has at her estate in Maine: www.themarthablog.com/2013/12/...

Would chose an extractor over wringer if given the choice to save buttons/fasteners. Many of my linens for instance have buttons (shams, duvet covers, etc...) and am not willing to risk them going through the mangle.


Post# 850195 , Reply# 19   11/6/2015 at 22:17 (3,090 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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I never recall having any problem with buttons going through the wringer. As long as they go through the wringer in a flat position there shouldn't be any breakage. That being said, an extractor would be a nice compliment to a Maytag wringer,but certainly not necessary. The perfect setup would be a Maytag A50 that was larger, and used the same agitator as the wringer, instead of the impeller and had a larger spin drier.

Post# 850526 , Reply# 20   11/8/2015 at 18:45 (3,088 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Largest complaint about wringer washers

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Seems to stem from the mangle. Easy even though they touted their spin-drier machine as superior to a wringer washer still produced both.

There was also the work involved in getting larger items such as sheets, blankets, etc... folded just so in order they would fit into the mangle. Guess that explains why Whirlpool-Kenmore had that ruler thing on the "Visi-Matic" washers.

Capacity wise it seems most wringer held as much as modern "compact" front loaders; eight to nine pounds...


Post# 850552 , Reply# 21   11/8/2015 at 20:14 (3,088 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
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I just used mine today.
Had a fairly thick terry bathroom that had to go through... I was Conscience, but not overly anal as to what was folded where.
The truth is... the real important part of running items through the wringer is direction of the pockets.
With a pillowcase for instance, it's better to put the closed end through first. Shirts with front pockets, go in shirt tail first.
The wringer is more apt to bust a seem in a pocket as the water is being squeezed out, than breaking a button.


Post# 850556 , Reply# 22   11/8/2015 at 20:31 (3,088 days old) by abcomatic (Bradford, Illinois)        
ABC wringer machines

I use my wringers all of the time. The ABC sits higher up than does the Maytag, thus a bit easier to retrieve clothes from the machine. I always put the button side up and hold the shirt straight so that the buttons go through the wringer; I have never had a button pop off as a result of wringer use. I fold pants over so that the zipper is in the middle and start the cuffs through first. That seems to work well.
The tub on the ABC is white porcelain with a ribbed bottom, possibly a carry over from scrub board days? The drain is at the side bottom of the tub, covered with a metal strainer, which can be removed for cleaning. A hose can be connected to the drain petcock so that the water can be directed where ever you want it to go. A metal cover that can be moved closed or open covers the petcock. The ABC also is much quieter than the Maytag.
I have 4 Maytags too and are great machines. Happy washing. Gary


Post# 850564 , Reply# 23   11/8/2015 at 21:09 (3,088 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
Gary

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Can you share a pic of your ABC?

Post# 851295 , Reply# 24   11/12/2015 at 20:29 (3,084 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO)        
Wait a minute Stan!

Looking at the pictures of Geoffs machines, The Harem, it appears the Model J is NOT a pump model. Look at it's drain hose end and see the difference.

Post# 851321 , Reply# 25   11/12/2015 at 23:38 (3,084 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

My Grandmothers Maytag Square tub had the part fail that keeps the wringer in position I think it is called a "pawl". I think she was wringing sheets. When this happens the wringer can "fly" around forcefully a 180. It scared her, after that she paid a neighbor to take her wash to the coin op. This was in the 1960's she was elderly. My mom used the machine once when we were visiting, no problem. This was a family tale almost as bad as the time the "Baldor" window fan sucked the curtains including the rod into the spinning blade. Speed Queens wringer seemed safer with a separate lever on the post to lock the wringer positions, also the top of most speed queen wringers jumped up when they emergency released. Some wringers had a hinged end piece that flew out and up forcefully when the tension was released. Extreme caution was required for the operator and inquisitive children. I once went to a medical coding ICD 9 course there was indeed a diagnosis code for IIRC, "injury home appliance laundry wringer". A "V" code if my recollection is correct. -A

Post# 851322 , Reply# 26   11/12/2015 at 23:48 (3,084 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
Here it is.... an E code... nowdays

E918 Caught accidentally in or between objects

Caught, crushed, jammed, or pinched in or between moving or stationary objects, such as:

escalator

folding object

hand tools, appliances, or implements

sliding door and door frame

under packing crate

washing machine wringer


Post# 851326 , Reply# 27   11/13/2015 at 00:40 (3,084 days old) by stan (Napa CA)        
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Yes I notice that now. Had to zoom it a bit.
J model is a non pump.
Air2903 Sounds like the part that broke on your Grandmothers Maytag was whats called a Index slide.
It's actually very easy to fix.
The Maytag Wringer also has a separate lever to operate the wringer and is used to lock into position (index slide) as well as a release bar. When pressed it dose not cause the wringer to to turn or swing. It just releases the tension on the rollers. About as safe as you can get for a wringer.


Post# 851467 , Reply# 28   11/13/2015 at 17:20 (3,083 days old) by e2l-arry (LAKEWOOD COLORADO)        
On our Speed Queen

Yes, the wringer JUMPED apart when you hit the RELEASE bar but it took a lot of force to get it back into the working position. When I was 13 I could barely get it back into position. My Maytag easily resets with a turn of the tension bar on the wringer top. Also to move the wringer on the Speed Queen you pushed the lever down and moved it into the next position or held the lever down until you got it positioned where you wanted it. Then let the lever go and it would snap into place to the nearest set position. There was a set number of positions for it to lock in position. Whereas the Maytag has almost infinite positions. It will lock wherever it is when you position the handle out of "move". Little things that made the Maytag the Cadillac of washers in the day of only Conventional (wringer) washers.


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