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Post# 127514   5/9/2006 at 05:53 (6,552 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        

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Sorry, don't mean to offend anyone but take a look at this kitchen. Even the blue KA dishwasher is fabulous. I would love to have this kitchen.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO chachp's LINK on Dallas Craigslist





Post# 127517 , Reply# 1   5/9/2006 at 06:25 (6,552 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
o! my paws and whiskers!

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Ralph,
You won't offend me. O! my paws and whiskers! I can see me in that kitchen now in my best Doris Day...er, that is, Cary Grant, yeah, Cary's understated suit...holding the instruction book (upside down) and trying to programme that oven clock. I want it! I need it!
Oh, my.


Post# 127526 , Reply# 2   5/9/2006 at 07:21 (6,552 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
oh yea

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oh yea baby that is way cool hope someone gets at least part of it

Post# 127529 , Reply# 3   5/9/2006 at 07:39 (6,552 days old) by designgeek ()        


That stuff definitely gets an "Oh My!" rating here. How did they get the matching front panels for the DW?, or did they have them made up custom?

Powder-coated steel is a nice durable and clean surface, as long as you take care of it properly (e.g. no abrasives, no steel wool).

Apparently the company is still in business, or is newly back in business or something; though their website suggests the latter because it seems to be nothing but a survey (after some product-positioning stuff on the main page that suggests this is going to be Very Expensive Stuff).


Post# 127533 , Reply# 4   5/9/2006 at 08:08 (6,552 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
you found the link?

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Designgeek,
Can you tell us the link? I couldn't find it! I would love to see more of their work - hope they have a catalogue going back a few decades.


Post# 127534 , Reply# 5   5/9/2006 at 08:09 (6,552 days old) by chachp (North Little Rock, AR)        
Custom Front

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I bet the front of that dishwasher is a custom matched panel. What a cool kitchen. I love the stainless counter and backsplash around the cooktop. That is a great idea. I amy have to look into something like that when I update or downdate as it were my kitchen.

Post# 127575 , Reply# 6   5/9/2006 at 13:12 (6,551 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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That is a St. Charles kitchen, very popular around here in the late 50's and early 60's. They did everything matching if you wanted it, from the cabinets to the appliance panels. I've even seen a Sub-Zero with matching panels - in warm and inviting Tawny Gold!

They are very optimistic about their pricing but do state "make an offer" so I guess there is room for negotiation.


Post# 127580 , Reply# 7   5/9/2006 at 14:15 (6,551 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        
Interesting Dishwasher

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I see that the dishwasher has a little control knob below the door, and it looks very similar if not identical to the one on the KD-2P. So this much be an early 60's kitchen, I think.



Post# 127586 , Reply# 8   5/9/2006 at 14:37 (6,551 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Custom Imperial

Before you can wash it in a Kitchenaid yo have the dirty the bowl, beaters and cake pan.

Did you not see the Frigidaire Custom Imperial double oven bake center?!?.

Now, I am Moist! Browned on the outside, pulling away from the edges and filling the house with the fragrance of perfection.

OMG, Those were the days.

Kelly


Post# 127617 , Reply# 9   5/9/2006 at 18:16 (6,551 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Up until the 16 series, the KA timers were down there. The St. Charles kitchens almost always featured a KA dishwasher in their ads. The KDS 14P in the picture has a rapid advance timer so that if you selected Rinse & Hold, it went through the pre rinse of the cycle and then the motor shut off. The timer stopped moving briefly, then the rapid advance timer motor came on with its little chain drive and turned the timer dial to within an increment or two of the normal stop position and then the timer motor advanced at normal speed. When you unlocked the door, a mechanical linkage cocked the timer so that it would be in the proper start position for the next cycle. When you selected Utility & Utensil, the cycle went through the pre-wash, wash and three rinses and only five minutes of dry then shut off. After a minute the rapid advance motor was activated and the dial went from the beginning of dry to the end. It's so neat to watch it turning.

When I got mine, it had the trim kit with front panels that matched the cabinets in the kitchen where it had lived for years. There was a cabinet & counter top place run by some great people John knew so I had the front panels done in white matte finish Formica along with a matching top with backsplash. She looks like the million dollar baby that she is. I remember wanting her sooooo badly for so long. This was KitchenAid's first machine with a detergent dispenser and it was not a raving success. During the pre-wash, the spray from the ends of the wash arm would force water under the stainless steel flap that held the detergent for the main wash, causing it to dissolve. I tried all kinds of modifications because, truth be told, it needs every bit of detergent in the main wash with a two and one third gallon fill and no element in the sump to boost the water temperature. I finally settled on two things: the "liquid" detergents and a short (2 inch)length of small diameter hose that I slit down one side and placed over the little baffle that holds the pre-wash detergent. Now, even powder detergent can be used successfully because the hose makes a great baffle that prevents the water from reaching the flap that holds back the main wash detergent.

Hobart used to say that these dishwashers had "Guided Action" with 6 moving walls of water and you can really hear the end jets sweep past the door as the wash arm turns at about 45 rpm. What is really neat is in the last rinse where it is circulating the water so powerfully and the rinse agent dispenser snaps as it shoots a couple of drops of Jet Dry into the tank. The water is instantly almost silenced to just a whisper by the foam and it's like a soft good-bye because in a minute or so the water is draining away and the 6 powerful moving walls of water won't be heard again until the next load.


Post# 127619 , Reply# 10   5/9/2006 at 18:22 (6,551 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
St. Charles Kitchens

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Were made here in St. Charles, Il. The plant is closed down now, torn down and made into a Cadillac dealership. You find many St. Charles kitchens in this area. I remember the ads for St. Charles kitchens (always with a flush KitchenAid dishwasher) - boy that was class. I would be interested in the link to the *new* St. Charles kitchens to see what they are like.

Post# 127622 , Reply# 11   5/9/2006 at 18:27 (6,551 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Never Mind

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I found the link in the ad. That's the old St. Charles script name so it looks as though they may resurrect it. I can't understand how they went out of business in the first place. When I was at my Marketing Director's house in Aurora, she specifically pointed out on the tour that the kitchen was a "St. Charles kitchen" put in by her folks years ago. Still looks fabulous.

Post# 127624 , Reply# 12   5/9/2006 at 18:34 (6,551 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
By The Way

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Here is my KDI-14P. Still runs like a champ. Didn't realize it had the problem with the detergent dispenser, I haven't seemed to notice it.

Post# 127626 , Reply# 13   5/9/2006 at 18:39 (6,551 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Inside

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This machine was hardly ever used. Must have been put in a high-end kitchen and not used by the owner. Had some drama with the drain, but converted it to a gravity drain and she runs like a champ!

Post# 127631 , Reply# 14   5/9/2006 at 18:58 (6,551 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

One of the great things about the older dishwashers was that their cycles were so short that unless they were used under orphanage-like conditions, the porcelain and the coating on the racks stayed in pretty good condition. Your Imperial looks fabulous.

I guess every style has its day and metal cabinets were the modern thing to have instead of wood and then things changed back. John has talked with new home owners who were anxious to pull out their St. Charles or GE metal cabinets and he told them to either have them professionally repainted or put Formica on the doors. They are great cabinets that offered, 50 and 60 years ago, many of the special storage compartments of the very expensive cabinets of today.


Post# 127637 , Reply# 15   5/9/2006 at 19:26 (6,551 days old) by fnelson487 (Palm Springs, CA)        
Short Cycle Times

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My daily driver is a KDS-17. Wham-bam thank you m'am she is done in no time and the dishes come out dry! The KDI-14P is a backup in my laundry room off the kitchen. You are right about the short cycle times on these older machines. That's because they used a lot more water. This one has the heater and the better detergent dispenser. I haven't ever found one I like as much. I had a new KitchenAid SS tall tub TOL and it took forever and the dishes didn't dry. When my plumber put in the KDS-17, he said he hadn't ever taken out a new TOL dishwasher and put in a 30 year old machine. I told him he hadn't been to my house before!

Post# 127647 , Reply# 16   5/9/2006 at 20:56 (6,551 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT)        
KitchenAid

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Love your "KitchenAids" Fred.


Totally impressive.


Gary


Post# 127656 , Reply# 17   5/9/2006 at 21:28 (6,551 days old) by magic clean ()        
St. Charles & Whirlpool

For a while in the later 1980's, Whirlpool owned St. Charles. Most if not all of the Whirlpool and KitchenAid advertising of the day, featured St. Charles' beautiful cabinetry. The sales literature and magazine ads often carried a footnote detailing the St. Charles brand trademark & cabinet style.

I remember Martha Stewart had a St. Charles kitchen & laundry, either in one of her homes or her daughters. Clean and simple styling with stainless steel counters.



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