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Post# 853028   11/21/2015 at 16:33 (3,070 days old) by sillysuds (new jersey)        

Hi Do any top load washers have lint filters any more? Thank You.




Post# 853054 , Reply# 1   11/21/2015 at 21:55 (3,070 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
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I believe they're hidden under the agitator.

Post# 853079 , Reply# 2   11/22/2015 at 07:46 (3,070 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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My Avanti still uses a true recirculating lint filter.....granted its powered by the impellor...still functional and effective though

but they are rare on newer machines....


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Post# 853089 , Reply# 3   11/22/2015 at 09:13 (3,070 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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In countries that don't use tumble dryers that much, removable lint filters are still common. This is Samsung's "Magic Filter".

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Post# 853095 , Reply# 4   11/22/2015 at 10:14 (3,070 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        
Love them!

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I can't understand why more modern American washers don't have these. This was one of the reasons I wanted a Filter Flo because I have 2 cats and I was pulling out gobs of fur and lint from the dryer. My little RCA portable has one too and it works super well. Since I've had the Filter Flo, The lint build up in my dryer has been very minimal. Even when i cleaned it out after first getting it, it was clean.

Post# 853100 , Reply# 5   11/22/2015 at 11:01 (3,070 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

As some of you know, a few years back I literally inherited a whole clowder of cats. I did a lot of research here and other sites I've since forgotten. The general consensus seemed to be that the best machines were Filter-Flo's and Maytags with the filter in the agitator.

Maytags were judged better for debris that tended to float, such as pet hair. Filter-Flo's were better for anything that tended to settle. There's a big caveat, however. Maytags only beat Filter-Flo's if washed at a full load, due to the filter's location high up on the agitator.

What I got from all the reading was this: If your primary concern is pet hair AND you generally wash with a full load (i.e. highest water level), go with a Maytag. Otherwise, you're probably better off with a Filter-Flo.

Somewhere there's a thread which mentions the types of debris that float and the types that sink.

That said I have 2 notes:
1. My mom has always had Kenmore's (currently a Series 80). They all had 'self-cleaning' lint filters and all did a great job at removing pet hair.

2. Yogi's Avanti has a manual clean lint filter with very fine mesh. It does a fantastic job at catching lint. It's available in various sizes up to 3.0 cu. ft.. Remember, there's no agitator so you can cram quite a bit into those machines and still get good turnover. Link attached.

I'll now turn this over to those more knowledgeable that I to expand on and correct the info above. :-)

Jim



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Post# 853108 , Reply# 6   11/22/2015 at 11:33 (3,070 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        
Thanks Jim

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For the tips! Good to know. I really like the GE so far. I'm amazed at how much lint and hair it collects.

As far as the portable machines with impellers...mine is a .9 cu ft RCA, made my Midea. I DO like it, but one thing I don't like is without an agitator the clothes tend to get tangled up. Mostly if you use too high of a water level and not enough clothes. I guess that's to be expected though. It collects a large amount of lint as well...the filter is in the side and pops out.

They do come in a wide variety of sizes...the 3.0 cu ft I would say is probably big enough to use as an everyday washer. They almost remind of of smaller versions of the Samsung and LG top loaders...just not as advanced in washing techniques.

Mine does not allow for separate water lines for each temp, but most of the bigger ones do so you could def use them as a permanent washer hooked up to reg washer hook ups.

From what I read, most of these guys are NOT considered HE machines. I really like the Danby version too...it has a little agitator in the middle with a lint filter inside...reminds of the F&P machines.


Post# 853115 , Reply# 7   11/22/2015 at 12:57 (3,070 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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F&P "sock" filter.  An optional accessory.  Lowest water level is a tad below the rim of it but it's functional on the four higher levels.


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Post# 853116 , Reply# 8   11/22/2015 at 13:06 (3,070 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        
Cool!

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Does it work well DADoES?

Post# 853145 , Reply# 9   11/22/2015 at 16:58 (3,069 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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>As some of you know, a few years back I literally inherited a whole clowder of cats. I did a lot of research here and other sites I've since forgotten. The general consensus seemed to be that the best machines were Filter-Flo's and Maytags with the filter in the agitator.

I lived with someone with a full collection of furry creatures, including, but not limited to, a small dog, big dogs, and cats. The washer there was a WCI Frigidaire, which did a poor job of removing animal fur. I moved here, where there was--at the time--a Kenmore BD with manual lint filter. One washing, even with air drying, and clothes were more fur-free than they'd been with even the WCI washer followed by dryer combo.

I have no idea how this washer compared to others. All I can say is that it did a vastly superior job compared to modern washers, both the WCI monster, and also IMHO WP DD machines.

One issue: I think lint filtering was probably more important in the US in the earlier days of automatics. Back then, more people line dried. Some ONLY line dried. So lint removal was probably more important back then. Even by the advent of the DD machines in the 1980s, dryers had become common, and many people had by that point moved to machine drying year round. Indeed, I think my mother's last load of line-dried clothes came off the line several years before the first DD machine shipped.


Post# 853146 , Reply# 10   11/22/2015 at 17:02 (3,069 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Jim.....those Avanti/Midea/RCA's are calling your name.....in fact screaming it!....

mine has the two valve inputs for a hot and cold water hookup......and as you seen Jim, when hooked to a sink, you can have an ALL WARM wash, spin spray, and two deep rinses....All WARM!...

even a "Y" hooked to regular faucets would allow any temp you desire, just hooked to the COLD water side.....there is no dubbed down temp control of any type on these machines.....


Post# 853150 , Reply# 11   11/22/2015 at 17:29 (3,069 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I suppose it's about the same effectiveness of Maytag's cartridge filter being that it works on the same principle of water currents through the agitator post.  F&P's "native" lint-handling system is the same ... water currents pull lint down the agitator post into the outer tub where it's obstructed from passing back through the basket perfs which are punched from the inside and leave a tang (or metallic hanging chad?) on the exterior.


Post# 854123 , Reply# 12   11/29/2015 at 00:28 (3,063 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Here all top loaders have lint filters.

Dryers are rare, so a washing machine that can't get rid of lint would be a disaster in our market.

Most agitator top loaders have a vilter cup in the agitator. Impeller type machines have the water pumped to the filter by the impeller.


Post# 854451 , Reply# 13   11/30/2015 at 21:45 (3,061 days old) by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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I never knew that the Fisher&Paykel washer could have an optional lint filter. Thats very handy to have especially if one line dries laundry like I do. When I used my SQ washer, I would have lint over everything and the thing was the washer has a self cleaning filter under the washbasket. It obviously isn't very effective at all. I loved the lint filter in my Maytag A613. I thought it did a great job filtering and I was amazed at all the lint it would catch along with cat fur. The LG washer I have now does quite well filtering I think especially with the TurboWash going.

Post# 854458 , Reply# 14   11/30/2015 at 22:33 (3,061 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Yes, the Avanti/et al. is right up my alley. They're fun to play with, certainly fun to watch (and I'm not the only one who can watch it in action all day, lol), and probably has the highest capacity of any washer of the same exterior size. I just need a pedestal for it as there's only one thing I willingly stoop and bend for these days and laundry is NOT it ;-)

Now if Avanti would just make a 120V condensing dryer I'd have a matched set made in heaven!

Jim


Post# 854599 , Reply# 15   12/1/2015 at 16:11 (3,061 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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well, there is a dryer, 120V, just not a condenser......but you never know, there may be one available....

Post# 854623 , Reply# 16   12/1/2015 at 19:07 (3,060 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
If you want to know the misery of attempting convection

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Drying on 120v look no further than the combo units put out by Equator, Malber, Splendie and so forth. If you think drying with a vented dryer on 120v takes time, try it with a condenser. *LOL*

Already hobbled by the method so it takes longer than vented drying, condenser dryers need considerable power to generate enough heat in order to produce the difference between internal and ambient room air. Without that differential you will not get good drying results.



Post# 854638 , Reply# 17   12/1/2015 at 22:18 (3,060 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

... Unless you create this difference.

Mueller did that some years ago and it worked. When I saw the project I thought it would never work and it would be a disaster. A dryer that mixes the best of both technologies.

When I saw it in operation, the machine slapped my face and laughed at me, my eyes rolled, i wanted to throw my diploma in a shredder and I had to admit the engineer was brilliant and invented a solution that was super simple and great!

It dries faster than a regular condenser dryer but without exausting too much air.



Post# 854664 , Reply# 18   12/2/2015 at 07:18 (3,060 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

I had an Equator (3600E?) which used a trickle of incoming cold water to create that temp differential. I appear to be one of the few people who had a properly functioning unit. Yes, it took longer than a conventional unit did to dry, but that was a small price to pay for the convenience of doing laundry in my apartment. In my current building kitchens and bathrooms do not have exterior walls and AFAIK, 240V service is not available. Hence my interest in 120V condenser dryers.

Thomas, what was the name of that wall-mounted washer? I looked for the thread a while back but couldn't find it. Thanks.

Jim


Post# 854670 , Reply# 19   12/2/2015 at 09:08 (3,060 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Electrolux Mini Silent.

Post# 854779 , Reply# 20   12/2/2015 at 22:26 (3,059 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

That's it! Obrigado, senhor:-)

Jim



Post# 855215 , Reply# 21   12/5/2015 at 19:44 (3,056 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

Sempre às ordens! ;-)


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