Thread Number: 63325
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Out with hotpoint s line and back with beko |
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Post# 859107   12/30/2015 at 09:34 (3,011 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Well after seven weeks of having the hotpoint S line it had to go. Stupidly long wash times. Over sensitive spin and back with a beko.
Beko have got it right with this machine. The pump is quiet. You can virtually hear it. When it's on spin it's a lot quieter and before it finishes the spin to go on to the next rinse it flushes water through from the dispensor while the pump is still on to flush that extra bit of soap out. So far I'm really impressed with it. I loved my last beko and only got rid as I needed a bigger wash drum. I know a lot of people slate them but personally I think they have got it right on this machine |
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Post# 859108 , Reply# 1   12/30/2015 at 09:36 (3,011 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Post# 859140 , Reply# 2   12/30/2015 at 14:55 (3,011 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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On the new machine Rob. To be honest I didn't see you getting on with the Hotpoint. I really like these Beko machines and almost bought the 10kg version but went for a Zanussi Lindo at the last minute. It's reassuring to hear that the pumps are quiet on these. The only Beko machines I've seen in operation seemed to have quite loud pumps and as we are open plan I wanted a machine that I knew had a quietish pump. Having said that I really like the Lindo. It does have some very long cycles but I use the "finish in" function so the washer is finishing either when I get up or get in from work, it's far more intuitive that a normal delay start. My sister got the older style Beko 8kg machine and is very impressed. I'd definitely consider a Beko for my next machine. I look forward to hearing, and seeing, more about your new machine
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Post# 859145 , Reply# 3   12/30/2015 at 15:48 (3,011 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Cheer's....
Well so far I've done four loads. I'm not open plan but I live in a two bed semi and all my doors are always open. I had to check to make sure the machine was on earlier it really is that quiet. Even on full spin speed it's pretty quiet. My last beko was excellent but the pump was awful. Really noisy. This one is whisper quiet. The quick 30 degree wash has been reduced to 28minutes. Not that I would use that except for maybe jeans I hated the hotpoint. My miele is in thethe summer house waiting on a a replacement spider so hopefully that will be my second machine in spring |
Post# 859244 , Reply# 5   12/31/2015 at 06:49 (3,011 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Yes the miele has been stripped and cleaned. I've had the pressure washer on the spider and it came back to black. You could actually smell the washing powder. Think Ariel. All the parts have had a good soak and wash and even though the spider would probably last a while I'm one of those people who do it right first time and hopefully have no issues in the near future.
The beko was on sale for 179.00 it's 8kg Which is big enough for the duvets etc. My old beko had major issues with rinsing all the soap out even with extra rinse. This one has no problems at all. For a budget machine it really is good. My fan oven is beko and it's great and my only regret was retiring my old 11 year old hotpoint dishwasher to replace it with a beko one. The wash results are awful. It doesn't like to be filled up. Two thirds full and it's OK but wouldn't buy one again |
Post# 859336 , Reply# 7   12/31/2015 at 17:43 (3,010 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Very nice. I always find Beko stuff to be pretty good for the money, the Beko dishwasher we bought in summer 2014 has by far been one of the best ones we've had. |
Post# 859574 , Reply# 9   1/2/2016 at 07:07 (3,009 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Hi it does standard 3 deep rinses with the option to do an extra one. In between rinses it flushes some fresh water through to clear any suds before it goes on to the next rinse which is a vast improvement on my previous beko which was awful at rinsing. Even at the end of the programme I would do an extra extra rinse and spin and there would still be suds in the water.
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Post# 859579 , Reply# 10   1/2/2016 at 07:22 (3,009 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Post# 859580 , Reply# 11   1/2/2016 at 07:24 (3,009 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Post# 859646 , Reply# 12   1/2/2016 at 15:46 (3,008 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)   |   | |
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I like how Beko does 3 rinses. I don't get why more manufacturers don't keep to the 3 rinses. I really disliked this on my Hotpoint when I got it but I got used to it now. Well done on getting a good machine. |
Post# 859649 , Reply# 13   1/2/2016 at 16:43 (3,008 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Thanks
I just really like how they have added a few little extra things that most people wouldn't even notice except us enthusiasts. Lol. It's just finished back to back loads since this morning as Saturday is wash everything day. Duvets dogs blankets and bed towels etc. So far I'm really happy with it |
Post# 859726 , Reply# 14   1/3/2016 at 04:13 (3,008 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Hi Robliverpool, I can see that your new Hotpoint turned out to be a fiasco and I'm glad you realised in time to get rid of it: I recently tried one of them myself and I soon sent it packing... in a roundabout way for the same reasons you're giving in your post.
I had a similarly bad experience (or even worse) with a Beko though, it looked identical to this one on the outside (see pic below), but it might have been different from the inside and the way it worked compared to the one you got. It was a 7Kg slim-depth model (50cm deep) and I'd say it was the worst, most inflexible and primitive machine I've used in my life! I used to like the look of it so much, that when I was presented with an offer on this model, I couldn't resist and I sold my Zanussi Lindo to make room for the Beko: that was the biggest mistake I've ever made! Inflexibility of use and incompatibility of wash functions/options were just some of the limitations of this machine: e.g. the 'Prewash' could not be selected with any other option, I often use this function on other washers for small loads of cleaning cloths and sponges and I typically like to choose a shorter wash time (small loads don't need to be beaten in the drum for hours on end) and add some extra rinses as these little loads would be particularly grubby... but this wasn't possible with this Beko. Compared to older Bekos, the main wash phase had been given some thought and criteria (e.g. the machine would tumble immediately while loading water so it would get an adequate amount of water for the size and absorbency of the load inserted in the drum), but when it came to the rinse, the machine would statically load a set quantity of water ignoring any possible load size/type and resulting in a massive waste for a small load which would be swimming in an ocean of water... and barely enough water for a big load which would absorb it and drop its level considerably: I found this totally unacceptable from a washer conceived in 2015... considering that most washers have nowadays evolved to recognise what they have inside and wash/rinse appropriately reaching maximum performance and efficiency. So many other things, no matter how significant they were, made me loathe this machine with a passion... to name but few: the tremendous gap in the spin speed selection, either 800rpm or 1400rpm with nothing in between; all those pre-programmed phases carried out even when not needed resulting in more waste of resources and time (other machines I've tried use an anti-suds phase only when suds are present) and even little annoying things like how accidentally moving the knob during the wash would change the program (unless child lock was used) and end up with a cancelled cycle. In my case, this machine was sent packing and replaced by the Hotpoint which ended up the same... I now have a Hisense which is far superior in terms of efficiency, flexibility and wash evolution/intelligence... I'd say, in comparison to the first 2 contendants, it's the equivalent of a human being vs a mere machine. Rant over ;)
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Post# 859730 , Reply# 15   1/3/2016 at 04:31 (3,008 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Hi.
Really sorry to hear you've had a bad experience with your beko. I think at the end of the day it's what features you need in a machine. Where as the hotpoint had a lot of features I wouldn't use that often the beko fits my needs. I tend to do quick hot washes which the beko is ideal for me as it's less than an hour where as with the hotpoint it would be two hours minimum. |
Post# 859731 , Reply# 16   1/3/2016 at 05:23 (3,008 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)   |   | |
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Yes Rob... the Hotpoint allowed for lots of wash combinations but it would still fail to cover all scenarios as yourself found you weren't able to use a short hot wash (I like them myself)! What made matters even worse was the fact that the machine was affected by a beyond belief end of cycle spin saga which often resulted in rather damp clothes that needed to be re-spun separately.
The overall cycle times in the Beko is much more reasonable, and the quick hot wash on the 'Daily Quick', is very reasonable even with just 2 rinses (3 rinses only with low temperature or on the considerably longer standard cycle). What really gets me though about the Beko, is the fact that it's advertised as a smart machine, although it clearly isn't... you can even see on the control panel it says 1kg to 7kg (1 to 8 in yours) and it's even rated as A+++ which is entirely based on the ECO program, a completely useless 3 hour long cycle with 2 rinses (inadequate for a full load, but these are fixed so a partial load would have enough rinse water). Yet, I can see how usable it is for the type of washes you do :) |
Post# 859742 , Reply# 17   1/3/2016 at 07:58 (3,008 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)   |   | |
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Lol no problems on the rant. At one point I was close to putting a hammer through the hotpoint. Even though it was a 1400 spin it never felt like they had been spun on that speed (when it eventually spun)
My mate has the hotpoint now. Five kids so it'll get plenty of use. The main thing I like about beko is the spin. It's no where near as fussy as hotpoint and my previous LG. It just does it and when it picks up speed it levels out. As for being A+ ratings don't bother me nub. I'm on a water meter and I'm quite happy to pay that little bit extra so my clothes are rinsed properly. On the daily quick the water is just over a third above the door. My my goal is to sort the miele out in the spring and keep the beko for duvets dogs blankets etc |
Post# 860035 , Reply# 18   1/4/2016 at 16:22 (3,006 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)   |   | |
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I remember when I used a Beko in the flatshare and I loved how it used to get on with the spins. No fussing, that's one thing I dislike about my Hotpoint, it's fussy. |
Post# 860423 , Reply# 19   1/6/2016 at 13:23 (3,004 days old) by liamy1 (-)   |   | |
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My recently passed on LG F1495BDSA, had 2 rinses default, and on all cycles could br adjusted to 5, and on 2 cycles (allergycare and silent) could be adjusted to 6 rinses.. |
Post# 863203 , Reply# 20   1/21/2016 at 03:08 (2,990 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 864769 , Reply# 21   1/30/2016 at 06:03 (2,981 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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I've just bought the 12kg model. It has a recirculating jet so water levels are a bit lower on this model. It's very quiet, better build quality than the Zanussi Lindo I had previously ( the Lindo has been donated to a charity that helps families in need)
I've only really tried the daily quick cycle so far, which I love. It's so nice not having to wait 2.5 hrs for a "quick" 60 deg wash!! |
Post# 864770 , Reply# 22   1/30/2016 at 06:07 (2,981 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Are these 2,5h for a full load or time adjusted already? I mean, 2,5h for 12kg of laundry would be quite ok, so the machine most likely will reduce the time if you wash less (keep in mind, a 6kg load would be a full load to some machines, but is only a half load to yours). |
Post# 864773 , Reply# 23   1/30/2016 at 06:34 (2,981 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 864933 , Reply# 25   1/31/2016 at 13:53 (2,979 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 866126 , Reply# 26   2/8/2016 at 10:36 (2,971 days old) by paulinroyton (B)   |   | |
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Hi Paul What happened to your Miele washer, she she die. Hope your happy with your Beko Cheers Paul |
Post# 866290 , Reply# 27   2/9/2016 at 04:28 (2,971 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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I really like my new Beko machine. It's super flexible. The daily wash is great for the majority of loads and I never have to worry about things not being rinsed properly, for example , if there is sudslock during the spin after the wash on daily quick the machine will stop, do a couple of flush fills then recalculate the time and add an extra rinse! I like that it's not fussy when it comes to spinning uneven loads, if the load is really uneven then the machine, again, adds an extra rinse, even on super quick!
As for the Miele, she became a bit poorly. Durning an unbalanced spin the pump snapped off its housing, the shocks started to go and she was quite "glitchy" , often getting stuck mid way through a cycle. I had seven years out of it and it was worked very hard so I can't complain. |
Post# 866809 , Reply# 29   2/12/2016 at 11:37 (2,967 days old) by liamy1 (-)   |   | |
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Is that a US TL machine in corner? Got some Tide USA detergent going if you want it (it's free) Got a post on super thread if you're interested. |