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Whirlpool's TL Washer with Lid Controls
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Post# 859298   12/31/2015 at 13:21 (963 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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It looks like Whirlpool will be offering a TL washer and matching dryer with front controls, similar to the ones offered by LG. I think they look pretty sharp.

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Post# 859300 , Reply# 1   12/31/2015 at 13:26 (963 days old) by Murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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They don't look bad. I'm not the biggest fan of the front controls but to each their own I suppose. My only concern would be the longevity of the control panel with the opening and closing, and moreso, the slamming, as most people seem to do.

Post# 859308 , Reply# 2   12/31/2015 at 14:27 (963 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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As long as it doesn't break under warranty, they don't care.   That's not just Whirlpool, it's all the mfgs.

Post# 859310 , Reply# 3   12/31/2015 at 14:54 (963 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Oh Dear...

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Here we are, chasin LG. Beiginning of the end?


Post# 859361 , Reply# 4   12/31/2015 at 20:25 (962 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I think it would have been a better match if they took Fisher&Paykel's top load dryer idea....

I can't help but think how many small items and socks will fall behind those machines.....

Post# 859365 , Reply# 5   12/31/2015 at 21:30 (962 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
I wonder if LG is moving away from these?

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Following the LG, but a bit behind? Kenmore offered an LG version in their Elite line but that seems to have disappeared from their website ( and from stores as well. When I was at Sears this morning, there were only a scant few LG built top-load washers left under the KM brand. Our big local dealer has only the front/lid control LG models "on order" now when they had three models on the floor a few weeks ago.

They are attractive and I've been watching them for a while now. I like how they make the machine look a teeny bit more vintage. Sort of, if you squint.

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Post# 859409 , Reply# 6   1/1/2016 at 09:09 (962 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

What's really interesring: This machine does not have the detergent drawer. It has the 3 cups arround the opening instead. So, maybe, they changed the cycle design back to the "old" Cabrio version?

Post# 859422 , Reply# 7   1/1/2016 at 10:22 (962 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
3 or 5 dispensers?

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Hard to tell from the pictures above, but it looks like 5 openings. 30 day dispensing like the GE perhaps?


Post# 859468 , Reply# 8   1/1/2016 at 14:54 (962 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 859473 , Reply# 9   1/1/2016 at 15:41 (962 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

And, whats that at 10 o' clock?

Post# 859474 , Reply# 10   1/1/2016 at 15:49 (962 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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Not crazy about the front lid controls, but the fact that they put the dispensers back the way they were on the previous gen Cabrios excites me! The drawers just felt cheap, and I haven't been a fan of them on any washer. They belong on front loaders, not top loaders.

I'd imagine this means they'll be changing that on their normal Cabrios as well? I would hope so.

I wonder if the thing at 10 o'clock is now where the recirculator spray is.

Post# 859481 , Reply# 11   1/1/2016 at 16:25 (962 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 859482 , Reply# 12   1/1/2016 at 16:31 (962 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
I hope this works: instruction manual link

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Post# 859496 , Reply# 13   1/1/2016 at 17:50 (962 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I suppose there is some savings to any mfr.  Smaller box/crate, warehousing and shipping.  

Post# 860371 , Reply# 14   1/6/2016 at 04:25 (957 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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I had the LG WT1101CW and it was the best top loader I ever had. Howevrr,a friend here,Dick, owns a Goat Dairy Farm and we met a decade ago when he and his son in law bought two hundred gallons of propane each month for their farm. I ran into him at Kaiser Permanenty clinic and he asked me about the new top loading washers. I told him I had the new LG and loved it. He said he wad real happy with their home set which is the LG TROMM front loading steam set in blue. I invited him over and he bought it,hands down. A few days later, he came over with a case of goat cheeses and told me he was so happy with his new top loader. He bought it to install in the business to sanitize their cheese cloth. Their water is solar heated to boiling and the direct drive Whirlpools just couldn't handle the hot,hot water. They nerd to stop using plastic plates becaise they wear from the metal snaps, buttons and zippers then fray the fabrics. Stainless steel won't do that. The LG also FILLS UP TO THE RIM on cycles like heavy and bulky. You may have,either a deep rinse or a spray,fill partially then drain as fresh water comes in and the tub rotates slowly to thoroughly rinse residue off the fabrics.

Post# 860383 , Reply# 15   1/6/2016 at 06:34 (957 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
30 Day Dispensing

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So it does have this built in. That is interesting and explains the abandoning of the drawer and the 180 rotation for the spray port.


Post# 860384 , Reply# 16   1/6/2016 at 06:36 (957 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Scratch That

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The drawer is the detergent reservoir for the "Load & Go" feature.


Post# 860415 , Reply# 17   1/6/2016 at 11:33 (957 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

My problems are less with the lid that what is under it, another case of all hat and no cattle.

Post# 860802 , Reply# 18   1/9/2016 at 03:09 (954 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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The washer has a capacity of 6.2 cu.ft.

Post# 860864 , Reply# 19   1/9/2016 at 10:09 (954 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 860866 , Reply# 20   1/9/2016 at 10:26 (954 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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6.1 cu. ft. makes me cringe.  Just encouraging more irresponsible laundry habits.  Throwing everything in to one load. 

Post# 860871 , Reply# 21   1/9/2016 at 10:49 (954 days old) by A440 ()        

I agree Bob! 

And the majority will do just that and complain that the washer sucks and damages their clothes.


Post# 861318 , Reply# 22   1/12/2016 at 02:30 (951 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Load&And go-sounds like that could clog from infrequent usage.6.1 CuFt-yes-load that dump truck full of clothes-your WP washer will take it!The controls in the cover is a worry-how much flexing of the control cables as the lid is opended and closed?Will have to wait on this one.And on these thought you had to load the machine by placing the clothes against the side of the tank away from the center of the agitator impeller-they show folks just dumping them in!

Post# 861388 , Reply# 23   1/12/2016 at 11:13 (951 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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6.2ft^3 ?
That's madness.
That won't clean squat.

They should be putting energy into their front loaders. At least those really clean.
How on earth could a little impeller really turn over that gigantic load?

Post# 861392 , Reply# 24   1/12/2016 at 11:26 (951 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I guess the flexing cable should be much of an issue - it's the same principle found on dishwashers.

Post# 867901 , Reply# 25   2/19/2016 at 14:34 (913 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Are these new washers;

Splutch driven belt, or hall sensor rotor/stator direct driven?

Post# 867943 , Reply# 26   2/19/2016 at 19:20 (912 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
good question

I'd like to know what drive system this has.

Post# 867945 , Reply# 27   2/19/2016 at 19:39 (912 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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It's a hybrid of the VMW belt/splutch and the Oasis/Fisher&Paykel SmartDrive. It's a BPM rotor/stator drive, but mounted onto the gearbox of the VMW. This is why the tub rotates against the wash plate, rather than just floating back and forth like the Oasis, but I suppose it also alleviates the issues that could arise with the floating wash basket system, and provides gear reduction to reduce stress directly against the rotor and stator. It uses a solenoid to lock the tub and wash plate together for rotation and spin.

Post# 868007 , Reply# 28   2/20/2016 at 09:05 (912 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        

Thanks for the info.

Post# 868008 , Reply# 29   2/20/2016 at 09:06 (912 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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A week's worth of washing for a family in one load....


Jean Shaw (Chief Home Economist for Sears) would slap her.  Hard.



Post# 868033 , Reply# 30   2/20/2016 at 12:21 (912 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
would be interesting...

It would be interesting to see how it washes when it comes out.

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