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Post# 860244   1/5/2016 at 14:37 (624 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        

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Extoller of all things Westinghouse Laundromat (Imperial forum content) and other fine products of which you can be sure..born January 3rd 1916

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Post# 860507 , Reply# 1   1/7/2016 at 03:05 (623 days old) by FEster (Lafayette La USA)        
Betty Furness

How many of you have a copy of the old yellow Betty Furness cook book hanging around? I know I do.

Post# 860522 , Reply# 2   1/7/2016 at 06:10 (623 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Mines Green

But its one of my favorite cookbooks, best peanut butter cookie recipe on earth!!! That book and the Betty Feezor cookbooks are really all you need.....but since I have about 1000 cookbooks, I shouldn't really say that..LOL

Post# 860532 , Reply# 3   1/7/2016 at 07:49 (623 days old) by cycluxe (Allentown)        

I have a '60s reprint of The Betty Furness Westinghouse Cookbook. Betty admits in the forward that a lot of the recipes are courtesy of Westinghouse home economist Julia Kiene. Betty was on hand for name value and glamour!

Post# 860534 , Reply# 4   1/7/2016 at 08:03 (623 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I have one of the Westinghouse cookbooks as well, even has recipes for laundry in the back.

Westinghouse Steam Iron at a new low, low price of only $14.95

Post# 860540 , Reply# 5   1/7/2016 at 08:24 (623 days old) by DaveAmKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)        

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Charles Klamkin mentions La Furness in the two books I have of his, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, READ THE INSTRUCTIONS! (1969) and HOW TO BUY MAJOR HOME APPLIANCES (1973), (as a Thank You/Dedication in each one & I think a chapter in at least one might be devoted to her; they're both put away somewhere, so I may have to dig 'em out to check)...



-- Dave

Post# 860668 , Reply# 6   1/8/2016 at 06:22 (622 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

Except for the builder Hotpoint builtins, we were a W house so Betty was like an aunt.

Post# 860699 , Reply# 7   1/8/2016 at 11:38 (622 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)        
Check Out Ms. Furness in this new to us short from 1958

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Extolling all the glamour of the new STYLE-Lite Laundromat, Combination and stackables......

Post# 860737 , Reply# 8   1/8/2016 at 16:53 (621 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        
Cookbooks galore...

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On ebay for very reasonable prices!..there are versions with yellow and green covers as well. There is a picture of Julia, their Chief Home Economist in my 1954 roaster oven book which may share many of the recopies with these cookbooks..we should whip up some of these recipe's at my next wash-in

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Post# 861113 , Reply# 9   1/10/2016 at 19:58 (619 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
What A Lot Of Decades Televison Channel

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So see plenty of 1950's programming in native habitat. Those sponsored by Westinghouse feature Miss. Furness in all her girdled and high heeled glory.

Am young or perhaps old enough to remember when Betty Furness was the consumer reporter for NBC television here in NYC. You have to hand it to the gal; she took the sort of employment open to her back then and made a pretty decent career for herself.

Sadly despite her hard work and fame Ms. Furness couldn't escape ageism and was promptly let go from WNBC just as she was batting cancer.

Post# 861404 , Reply# 10   1/12/2016 at 12:29 (618 days old) by programcomputer (Ann Arbor Michigan, USA)        
Probably the ULTIMATE in color, Betty talking Westinghouse..

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This ELECTRIC home of tomorrow, is demonstrated and discussed by Betty in FULL color!!!

Post# 861477 , Reply# 11   1/12/2016 at 18:03 (617 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)        
I remember Betty on NBC news too in NYC

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Always liked her segments. I hadn't realize she also worked in the Johnson Administration - very cool lady for sure!

Speaking of WNBC news - had a major crush on Chuck Scarborugh. Even before I figured out the whole gay thing.

Post# 861491 , Reply# 12   1/12/2016 at 19:16 (617 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Unless one has missed something

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Chuck Scarborugh isn't gay. Or did you mean something else?

Now is former co-anchor Sue Simmons is another matter.

Of the current and former WNBC news persons known to be gay are:

Raphael Miranda

Liz Smith

Jonathan Vigliotti (now in London for CBS news)

Post# 861514 , Reply# 13   1/12/2016 at 22:05 (617 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)        
no no... i didn't mean chuck was gay...

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It is just that before I "knew/admitted" I was gay, I had a crush on him.

Post# 861540 , Reply# 14   1/13/2016 at 01:57 (617 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Nice Betty video of the electric home--Is this powered by Westinghouse generator station?-and the power sent to the place by a Westinghouse distribution transformer?Westinghouse meter?WAIT 'TILL YOU GET YOUR BILL!!!!!Like the Shopsmith in the workshop.

Post# 861561 , Reply# 15   1/13/2016 at 05:48 (617 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

Least around here, utilities went with W or GE and pritmuch stayed with them. More you bought, cheaper it was. Houston and Dallas were W, possibly El Paso; Austin was GE and possibly San Antonio. Dad sold W.

In Houston the utility purchasing guy was a remote relative, who just died a couple months ago in his mid 90s within weeks of his wife. Almost certainly a fellow Mason. Then as now it was who you knew and how you knew them. I mean, a transformer is pretty much just that.

Post# 861562 , Reply# 16   1/13/2016 at 06:18 (617 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

For both GE and Westinghouse-sales of residentual,commercial and industrial equipment meant more sales of generators and dist equipment to use with the user equipment.Good business for both!!!

Post# 861573 , Reply# 17   1/13/2016 at 07:04 (617 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        

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did you, or anyone here, ever work with a Shopsmith? I used to love to watch the demo's in the Malls. Always wanted to try one too. But were they power hogs????


Do tell!


Post# 861591 , Reply# 18   1/13/2016 at 10:35 (617 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
ShopSmith Power Saw Etc

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These 60s Shop-smith home workshops were a cool multipurpose tool for home workshops that allowed the homeowner to have several different tools at less cost and in less space.


Home work shop tools in general use very little power and these SSs plugged into an ordinary 120 outlet so it is very unlikely they used much total power.

Post# 861626 , Reply# 19   1/13/2016 at 13:36 (617 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Why did Westinghouse Stick With

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One way tumbling for their washers for so long? It was known almost from the early days of "tumble washers) that reversing action reduces tangling, gives better results including lessening the dreaded "rope making" tendencies of one way washing action.

Grandmother got a Westinghouse "Weigh to Save" washer and matching dryer back in the 1970's. Coming from a top loading household found it interesting but wasn't really into appliances enough then to bother.

Post# 861738 , Reply# 20   1/14/2016 at 02:51 (616 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I have a power tool collection-and two Shopsmiths.Don't use them much now-but used to.Have a model 10ER and the 500.Both have variable speed pulleys for the speeds.The new 700 model has a variable speed motor.They are very good and versatile tools.Once you get used to changeover from one tool to another-it works out well.You have to plan your work around this.The basic Shopsmith can be a table saw,lathe,disc sander,vertical drill press,and a horizontal drill press.This is a very unique tool and it is good for work that would be difficult to handle on a vertical drill.You can get a belt sander,bandsaw,jointer as optional tools that are powered from a power takeoff shaft and coupler on the back of the headstock.The optional tool mounts on the coupler side of the Shopsmith bed tubes.I have the bandsaw and belt sander-work very well.I also have a standalone Craftsman bandsaw.The motor Hp on the early Shopsmiths was 1/2 hp.Later ones were 3/4 hp and 1 hp.The new 700 model is 1.75Hp 120V and 2 hp if run from 240V.The motors on earlier model Shopsmiths were from GE.or whatever brand the owner supplied.The 10 models were also sold without motor.You supplied your own-1/3-1/2 hp was recommended by the Shopsmith folks.They also made a "sawsmith" a radial arm saw version of a Shopsmith.These are more rare.Never used one.And they made standalone machines as well.The 700 is the only model currently made-and demoed at Lowes.
There is another similar machine like a Shopsmith still available-SuperShop.It is heavier and larger than a Shopsmith and has a variable speed DC PM motor.It has a wider speed range than a Shopsmith and heavier in weight.You can order those from the SuperShop-Smithy website.They also make metalworking tools such as lathes adn mills.It is said their machines are built in China to high quality standards-the Shopsmith is still built in Ohio as the old days.The Supoer Shop was a competitor to Shopsmith even from the 50's-the design of the Shopsmith dates back to the late 40's just after the war.Designed by a German invenotr Hans Goldsmidt or something like that.Another competitor to Shopsmith in the 50's-60's was the DeWalt Powershop-based on a radial arm saw.Have used on of those as a Radial saw.A neighbor to us at one time had one and he used it as a sander,drill,and jointer.You could use the DeWalt Powershop as a single speed horizontal drill or router-shaper.A lathe attachment was available for the DeWalt-you put a pulley on the motor shaft in place of the blade or other tool,and clamped the lathe to the DeWalts table.

Post# 861765 , Reply# 21   1/14/2016 at 06:22 (616 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

The most complex part of a W FL was the (tumble/spin) gearbox which they soon (~1955) did away with in favor of 3 belts with intermediate idler and one-way clutch. Seeing as how it was one-way, not given to reversing.

The single-interval timer was also bottom line/price. It could support reversing contacts but then half the tumble time it would be sitting there doing nothing leaving m'lady of the house wondering WTF. Because you can't slam the wiring from fwd to rvs without a dead zone and there was only one interval, roughly one minute. Same reason a legacy Maytag sits idle between agitate and spin/drain.

Post# 861774 , Reply# 22   1/14/2016 at 07:37 (616 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Reverse Tumbling In A Front Load Washer

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Or Dryer For That Matter does nothing to reduce tangling. Clothes dryers for example never tangle clothing and NO American dryer reverse tumbles, yes balling can occur in some loads in some dryers.  But real tangling is when you have shirt sleeves, pants legs tied in knots that you have to untie as you unload the machine.


My standard test load for a machine likely hood to tangle is about 20 mens long sleeve dress shirts [ this is sort of like the peanut butter in the glass test for DWs ] None of the vintage combos that I have will tangle a load like this and NONE reverse tumble.


Westinghouse did not do reverse tumbling because there was no need to do so and it would have done no good in the early slanted tub models anyway. WH largely solved the tangling problem by designing a proper true non tilted  tub washer in 1959 and that is all they and most washer manufactures have built since.


Hans is diffidently correct that by not doing the useless reversing a washer or dryer for that matter gets the job done faster.


John L.

Post# 861849 , Reply# 23   1/14/2016 at 15:05 (615 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Very interesting....

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Everything one has read to date promoted reverse tumbling of H-Axis washers as giving superior results including less tangling than one way rotation. Remember when Maytag was introducing their Neptune front loader references were made to the "rope makers" of previous front loading washers.

According to my 1952 Consumer Reports buying guide:

Westinghouse L-5 Laundromat & RL-1-49: ....more than average tangling of clothes....

Now the Norge AW-204 review did not mention tangling. Neither did the Bendix B-211

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