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Post# 129866 5/19/2006 at 13:26 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81  (Brisbane Australia) |
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Hi Guys, Leon found this one for me a couple of months back, and I've just been lazy in regard to posting pics. The machine looks like its been outside for quite a while, however the rust is only surface, so its not in bad shape. I've attached some pics, but I'm yet to power it up. 
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Post# 129869 , Reply# 2 5/19/2006 at 13:29 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Function Selector The 3 way switch that lets you do it all :) The motor reset switch is on the right 
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Post# 129870 , Reply# 3 5/19/2006 at 13:33 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Operating instructions Its amazing how they automated the heater on my old simpson to do this. The enginuity that had to use to incorporate such features on a solid tub machine. 
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Post# 129871 , Reply# 4 5/19/2006 at 13:34 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Washbowl and pulsator 
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Post# 129873 , Reply# 5 5/19/2006 at 13:35 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Motor, pump and transmission. 
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Post# 129881 , Reply# 6 5/19/2006 at 13:56 (6,549 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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FABULOUS machine! What a catch! | ||
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Post# 129883 , Reply# 7 5/19/2006 at 14:01 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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There is a hose connected on the back, into a fill flume, that is located inside the control panel. Its only a single hose however, which probably just means it was purchased for a cold water only hookup. | ||
| Post# 129885 , Reply# 8 5/19/2006 at 14:04 (6,549 days old) by geoffdelp (SAUK RAPIDS) | ||
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Nathan ... that's really great!! What year do you think this washer is from? I wonder what the "Hold" position was used for? | ||
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Post# 129886 , Reply# 9 5/19/2006 at 14:09 (6,549 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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OH Wow, its a Pulsamatic frigidaire with a 12lb Tub, that is just incredible Nathan. Nothing like that was ever built here in the states! By the way, besides the agitator column, does anyone know how I can tell the difference and know that its not a Mutlimatic and its actually a Pulsamatic with 630 pulses per minute agitation? | ||
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Post# 129889 , Reply# 11 5/19/2006 at 14:11 (6,549 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Is it the transmission? This is the machine that washes at 630ppm and spins at 630RPM? Did the US ones have a smaller tub? | ||
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Post# 129891 , Reply# 12 5/19/2006 at 14:18 (6,549 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Hi Nathan, yes there is one key difference on the transmission, I won't give it away yet. Yes this is the machine the washes and spins both at 630ppm/rpm. Frigidaire discontinued the Pulsamatic after the 1958 line, before 1963 all Frigidaire wash tubs were 8lb tubs. In 1963 they introduced the 12lb tub. When you come to Minneapolis for a visit next month I can show you guys the difference between the Pulsamatic and Unimatic operating next to each other. There is a big difference. 
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| Post# 129901 , Reply# 15 5/19/2006 at 14:54 (6,549 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City) | ||
Is this machine Canadian? | ||
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Post# 129913 , Reply# 18 5/19/2006 at 15:36 (6,549 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Since it would have been a timed fill | ||
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Post# 129925 , Reply# 20 5/19/2006 at 16:03 (6,549 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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fascinating
It seems to me that this might well be the best of both worlds. The suds-saver solution (which I always thought was so very clever of Frigidaire) together with heating. What simplicity! What clear thinking! I can understand how you might be inclined to set it up this way. If water and electricity for heating it were at a premium, you would want such a solution - the automation involved makes my head spin. I have tried to list what "decisions" would be involved in a fully automatic heating and washing cycle. 1)Fill the tub with water, this means a water level sensor. ( Since you are building for low water pressure areas, timed fill doesn't make sense.) 2) Start the spin to spin the water out of the solid inner basket into the outer tub. Another water sensor? Or do it buy averaging? Or just install a cut off so the pump can't pump the water out of the machine? (Not bad - we haven't even started to wash anything yet and already have at least one water level sensor and solenoid control for the pump.) 3) Now have the timer wait for the water to be heated to a pre-set temperature. Hmm, you could add an infinite thermostat or just say 120 degrees…or whatever. This is no big deal - you already have the sensor and light bulb set up, so this point would probably not cost more than a simple relais. 4) Pump the - now heated -water back from the outer tub to the inner tub. Another set of hoses and solenoids…probably at this point you are looking at a solution as complex as the Maytag suds-saver system. 5) Now you can wash and everything else follows pretty much the same pattern as our other well loved mulit-matics…except, of course, since you need to save water and the energy to heat it, you will have the first load spinning out through a separate hose to a separate sud-settling basin. Did I miss anything? | ||
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Post# 129931 , Reply# 21 5/19/2006 at 16:28 (6,549 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Sudz Saver
Well done Nathan, quite a collection, all these new old machines showing up!!! Please dont tell me you will automate it, cant think of why you would, all that extra time standing over it, marvelous!!! I bet those wires get warm pulling the current, would it be 3kw heater?? This works like the UK Thor/Parnall Spinwashers, Spin to Heat & Save etc.. Enjoy, Mike | ||
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Post# 129932 , Reply# 22 5/19/2006 at 16:28 (6,549 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Awesome!
Wow, that is a super cool machine! Austin - I think you are right on the money with this one - Looks to only have one belt, where as Multimatics have two. I love the flexibility of this cool machine. I would hypothesize that since GM was 'finished' using the Pulsamatic mechanisms in the US by 1959, that the allowed the Holden division of GM barrow it for later use in Australia - no need to sell patents when the parent company would have held the rights. Enjoy this fascinating machine! Ben | ||
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Post# 129941 , Reply# 23 5/19/2006 at 17:03 (6,549 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Oh, what a cool washer! Have you been able to date this machine yet? It has motor mountings that were intro'd in the 1960 line here in the states. The top & panel styling is different, ours had more of a swept-up design to the porcelain. Too cool - keep hunting, we love seeing these familiar, yet strange looking machines now and then!! | ||
| Post# 129977 , Reply# 24 5/19/2006 at 20:04 (6,549 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
What a find--Jesus Mary --I'm coming down under tomorrow
That's the famous--and I think, original--pulsator. The one Robert shows is a later model. As soon as i saw yours, I grew faint not yet knowing if it would pulsate at 630, but I was so excited regardless. That's my Grandmother's Pulsator. YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE THE WATER ACTION YOU'LL SEE when you pump heated water into the empty pulsating tub. I know this because the American model, trying to compete with the amazing Whirlpool/Kenmore Suds-saver, started out with a system that saved the rinse water. Pull the hinged ball over the hose opening to hold the water in the huge outer tub. To return saved water, place the amazing "SQUARE-SHAPED HOSE--I HOPE YOU SHOW IT; IT'S A TRUE ONE-OF-A-KIND ORIGINAL--over the frame and advance the dial to wash, skipping the fill. Has anyone seen this hose and water-saver system on the American models? Sadly, for all its genius, our beloved Frigidaire was way behaind the curve in suds-saving; Whilrpool just creamed them. The lid instructions are the absolute best I've ever seen and all the classic Frigidaire signatures are there: four divided sections; fill loosely; and my favorite: do not wind the clothes around the agitator which made me laugh even as a child--who the hell would wind the clothes around the agitator?? Answer Only the Chinese. Have you seen the new agitating Haier. GUESS WHAT? It winds the clothes right around the frigging agitator. Good Luck and Godspeed on getting it to work. Would you please plug it in right now and see. I'm so excited and happy for you Mikey | ||
| Post# 130006 , Reply# 25 5/19/2006 at 20:59 (6,549 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!) | ||
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| Post# 130008 , Reply# 26 5/19/2006 at 21:02 (6,549 days old) by veg-o-matic (Baltimore, Hon!) | ||
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Post# 130035 , Reply# 27 5/19/2006 at 21:42 (6,549 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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One way I can tell the difference between a Multimatic and a Pulsamatic is that there is only one belt going to the tranny in a Pulsamatic; the Multimatics have 2. Robert, is this what you're talking about? Yes Austin you are correct, only one belt is the key give away that its a pulsamatic. we love seeing these familiar, yet strange looking machines now and then!! I couldn't agree more with you Greg, I love seeing all these pictures of vintage Australian Top Loaders! That's the famous--and I think, original--pulsator. No that the agitator that was introduced in 1955, the original pulsator and agitator from 1947 looks like this... 
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Post# 130075 , Reply# 28 5/20/2006 at 02:03 (6,549 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains) |
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this is just great
I wish I could afford the flight - you'd have me camping on your doorstep overnight...please take lots of pictures and let us see everything. Especially the wiring harness behind that very squared off panel. It seems (yellowish residue) that it must have had chrome trim strips at some point? Since Australia is out of the question...I am really looking forward to being back in the 'States and hope some of you will be kind enough to lay me down and show me all the details. There is so much about these pulsating beauties I don't know. Just found the "unimatic-reoperation" manual Robert posted a while back, went to bed with the print out. Some of those tolerances...I could never do such high quality work. Maybe that is why my roller-matics were always pitching a fit? But I digress, Nathan this is just great - have fun! Thanks for sharing. | ||
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Post# 130083 , Reply# 29 5/20/2006 at 03:52 (6,548 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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More Vintage Machines still to find...
I remember when this was found, the guy who had it had a treasure trove of stuff on his lot...old cars etc..but i didn't venture any further.The dog scared me off.. I would love to know how many vintage Frigidaires are still in existence here in Oz... Gansky....Nathan and I still have another 18 months of kerbside hunting to go...as our city (Brisbane)still has the southern, Eastern and Western suburbs to go.... Stay tuned... Leon | ||
| Post# 130114 , Reply# 30 5/20/2006 at 08:45 (6,548 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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| Post# 130128 , Reply# 31 5/20/2006 at 09:59 (6,548 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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still excited and waiting
Should have said that is the original pulsamatic pulsator. The pulsator in the earlier picture Robert shows is not the first rendition. Yours is. Robert's later picture of the very first pulsator looks like sculpture. It there an older thread, pics, video, or the story of this machine? Know nothing and would love to learn. For those of us who love both pulsamatics, twintubs, and semi-automatics, isn't this machine a dream? Did you know that Frigidaire also once made a wringer version: navy blue speckled porcelain in and out--very unusual--you had to push or pull the head of the pulsator to engage and disengage. No kliddin'! | ||
| Post# 130132 , Reply# 33 5/20/2006 at 10:12 (6,548 days old) by mixfinder () | ||
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Pulling the Head Mickey, I would have tought you'd pull the head of the pulsator to drain. Kelly | ||
| Post# 130134 , Reply# 34 5/20/2006 at 11:03 (6,548 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Interesting
Rose B. had a Multi-matic with the "Clock" control dial, and her Mom Mary W. came to live with her. I held my breath at the site of the navy speclked tub because it looked like an automatic Friigidaire with its frame removed. I asked Mary how it worked and she said you push the pulsator down to make it wash. Being a little boy, I kept saying How. A helfy pretty woman with a strong melodious voice, she led me right over and showed me a metal ring surrounding the shaft which jingled a little, she pushed it and it clipped. Unfortunately the machine was not "Hooked up"--as much as you can hook up a wringeroanyway, but was off against a wall, since Mary had been using Rose's Multi. A One time deal, have not seen or heard of Frigi Wringer since. I'm sure someone else has. Maybe Geoff knows Footnote: the original pulsamatic pulsator, as distinct from the unimatic, has a solid head, no cap, no opening, no jumping water, no dispenser, just the slits of a Phillip Screw. Ladies and kids forgive me, bit it is unmistakeable because it is jet black, narrower on top than any other pulsator and looks like the head of a penis. | ||
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Post# 130143 , Reply# 35 5/20/2006 at 11:46 (6,548 days old) by trainguy (Key West, FL) |
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Dueling '57s | ||
| Post# 130172 , Reply# 36 5/20/2006 at 14:25 (6,548 days old) by fixerman () | ||
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Mickeyd Circumcised? | ||
| Post# 130173 , Reply# 37 5/20/2006 at 14:27 (6,548 days old) by fixerman () | ||
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Sorry, misread your post. Your post said head didn't it. | ||
| Post# 130174 , Reply# 38 5/20/2006 at 14:28 (6,548 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Yes | ||
| Post# 130184 , Reply# 39 5/20/2006 at 15:20 (6,548 days old) by westytoploader () | ||
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Hilarious, that could also explain why it was called the Pulsamatic in the first place... *Ducks and runs* | ||
| Post# 130324 , Reply# 40 5/21/2006 at 07:39 (6,547 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
semi-automatic FRIGIDAIRE washer
My Aunt Margaret had one like this.She lives in Anne Arundel County(Glen Bernie),Maryland.It was from 1960-1962,DeLuxe and would agitate as long as you wished untill you changed over to spin. Hers had no booster/heater and the agitator was the "3 Ring"with the rubber cap and plastic cup bleach dispenser.She replaced it with a semi automatic Speed Queen twin tub spinner.Then after her surgery she got a FRIGIDAIRE Jet Action 1-18 Imperial washer and dryer (1973) and just recently replaced them with a Whirlpool Duet pair.She was the angel who got me started in my love for washing machines and to this day,I still have the sprinkler 3 ring agitator she got with her original washer/dryer.Thanks Aunt "Maggie"!!!!!
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| Post# 130339 , Reply# 41 5/21/2006 at 09:18 (6,547 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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fond memories--Thanks!
My Aunt Margaret got me started on the Easy Spindriers. She was an Angel too who went to heaven on Christmas day a few years ago. We called her "Marge." Small world, huh? And now a Speed Queen TT. Was it like the Hoover or did it have an agitator? Until yesterday, I did not know that either of these semi-automatics existed. | ||
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Post# 130358 , Reply# 42 5/21/2006 at 12:35 (6,547 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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| Post# 130431 , Reply# 43 5/21/2006 at 22:25 (6,547 days old) by fixerman () | ||
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Here is a Speed Queen Twinnie in my "Collection". It is for sale | ||
| Post# 130435 , Reply# 44 5/21/2006 at 22:40 (6,547 days old) by fixerman () | ||
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Sorry, forgot to link. It is in "Member Collections" on the home page. CLICK HERE TO GO TO fixerman's LINK | ||
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Post# 130500 , Reply# 45 5/22/2006 at 08:46 (6,546 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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It looks like the original '47 Frigidaire had a perforated tub... is that true? Hi Rich, no it was a perforated liner around the solid tub. But Frigidaire washers didn't start overflow rinsing until 1952. Later on in the week when I have more time I will start a new thread about the '47 Frigidaire with some good pictures. Its a very different and primitive machine than later Unimatics. | ||
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Post# 130600 , Reply# 46 5/22/2006 at 14:53 (6,546 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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