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Post# 879570   5/4/2016 at 15:31 (2,884 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        





Given both spray ars run at once, this should either be the rinse only or quick cycle. Also note the soft start of the pump, slowly increasing the pressure.





Post# 879580 , Reply# 1   5/4/2016 at 16:51 (2,884 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))        
Soft start:

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Has been standard on Meiko door type and undercounter dish machines for quite some time. At least on the US models. A factory rep told me that this feature helps reduce chipping and cracking of glassware and fine china.

Interesting to see that Elux has transferred this technology to the home dishwasher market. Although being as NO home DW sprays with anywhere near the force or at the temp of a commercial DM I can see no reason for it.
WK78


Post# 879677 , Reply# 2   5/5/2016 at 11:32 (2,884 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Interesting.
I really hate that Orbit Clean thing and how it lurches around.....but it got rave cleaning reviews......
(Shrug).


Post# 879683 , Reply# 3   5/5/2016 at 12:24 (2,883 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

If with lurches around you mean its slower rotation, that was part of the idea behind it.

As far as I understand, first of all, due to the additional rotation axis, you get more spray directions and thus more coverage.
Second of all, you get soaking time. It basicly is something like 5 seconds of soaking, 2 seconds of spraying.
And, last, you get more contious spray. You get like 1-2 seconds of continous spray for one area. Basicly the principle: 'If you rinse by hand, you don't pulse your tap on and of in half second intervalls, you keep the tap running.'

But really can't see any of this makeing a big difference.


Post# 879684 , Reply# 4   5/5/2016 at 13:07 (2,883 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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My concern is that I see no possible way for there to be good coverage in the corners of the bottom rack. I've never had or used a dishwasher in which a glass couldn't be put into the corners and not come out clean, even in that horrid GE Nautilus we had. But that circular contraption looks to barely pass under the very outer edges at the sides, much less the corners. Sure, the lower rack is typically intended for plates and pots and pans, but the flexibility would be missed because there have been times I've had a load that had more cups and glasses than anything else.

Post# 879689 , Reply# 5   5/5/2016 at 13:59 (2,883 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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None of the fancy Electrolux-made dishwashers achieve the cleaning performance of Bosch or Miele dishwashers with their simple spray arms in our consumer magazine's tests. And they didn't for the past ten years or so.

Here's a Frigidaire with the same spray arm.





Post# 879698 , Reply# 6   5/5/2016 at 15:03 (2,883 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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Weird....within a few hours, it might be growing on me......
But you're right. Bosch and WP do just as good a job, or better, with more traditional wash arms.

I DO however like how Elux/Frig. have kept the little grinder blade in their pumps.


Post# 879725 , Reply# 7   5/5/2016 at 18:49 (2,883 days old) by Joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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My Frigidaire had the Blade Spray arm, which was basically the same thing but just a rectangle. I was looking to buy the Orbit Spray arm until I realized that it didn't have any more holes in it. I couldn't see the advantage over what I had.

Andrewyou are right though, corner coverage wasn't the best. I had to be careful where I placed my blender or the half gallon tall Tupperware containers I use for half and half. If they were too far in the corner, they wouldn't get clean. But just a smidge over and they were fine.


Post# 879734 , Reply# 8   5/5/2016 at 19:52 (2,883 days old) by washman (o)        
Bottom arm

looked decent in terms of water pressure, the top one, on the other hand, reminded me of a senior citizen with a prostate issue.

FWIW, sans the orbital arm, mine runs similar to this one. For a contractor grade unit, it does well enough I suppose. But the top arm pressure is far weaker than the lower arm, just like this unit.


Post# 879815 , Reply# 9   5/6/2016 at 13:38 (2,882 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I liked the 2nd Frigidaire video better

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You could see more details. Anyway, the pressure isn't that bad and there is kind of a coolness factor to it.

Post# 880314 , Reply# 10   5/11/2016 at 10:44 (2,878 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA)        
wash pressure

What are the differences between the spray, surge and spray pressures on Frigidaire and Electrolux dishwashers?


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