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Thread Number: 65422
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
New addition to GE lineup |
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| Post# 880287 , Reply# 1 5/11/2016 at 06:46 (2,900 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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| Post# 880298 , Reply# 3 5/11/2016 at 07:58 (2,900 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Cool, I'll look again. It didn't come up under the listing...hmmm.
Yes the HydroWave is actually a great machine. I really liked mine...and yes it was very quiet during agitation. Sad to see them go. These new machines look good though. I wouldn't be opposed to getting one. I'd love to see a video of the version without the agitator and the recirculating wash spray. I've seen a few of the bigger model but not this size.... | ||
Post# 880312 , Reply# 4 5/11/2016 at 10:22 (2,900 days old) by GELaundry4ever  (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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drive system parts It sounds like this washer has a planetary gearbox. | ||
| Post# 880320 , Reply# 5 5/11/2016 at 11:33 (2,900 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
WHAP-WHAP | ||
| Post# 880321 , Reply# 6 5/11/2016 at 11:38 (2,900 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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These washers do indeed have a planetary gearbox like the Whirlpool versions iirc. Didn't catch the rinse mishap till you mentioned it! | ||
| Post# 880322 , Reply# 7 5/11/2016 at 11:45 (2,900 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
It looks and sounds like a crude direct copy of Whirlpools VMW. It's obvious they even have the drain pump vertically mounted directly to the bottom of the tub because of that incessant coughing sound. I have no earthly idea why WP or anyone imitating the design would think designing the drain system like that is a good idea because it adds to the already noisy personality of the machine. I do think WP's machines sound and feel much more solid. With this GE I'd have to line the cabinet and the floor underneath with sound dampening material. Yeesh. What happened to appliances having solid thunks and relaxing hums and not sounding like hollow boxes of tin metal? Oh wait....
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| Post# 880325 , Reply# 8 5/11/2016 at 12:12 (2,899 days old) by glomain (tuscarawas cnty. (eastern ohio)) | ||
you should of known
a solid cabinet & a relaxing hum = a Speed Queen set. oh and clean cloths too.
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| Post# 880330 , Reply# 9 5/11/2016 at 13:07 (2,899 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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WP's machines sound and feel much more solid
Maybe not that much more solid...
Are the GE's front serviceable? Or do they require flipping over like the WP? Maybe front serviceability is being abandoned as most people are going to chuck the machine and by new when it has a failure. Seems like most of these manufacturer's are going backwards... Malcolm | ||
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Post# 880349 , Reply# 11 5/11/2016 at 15:26 (2,899 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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full cycle video Here is a full cycle video. CLICK HERE TO GO TO GELaundry4ever's LINK | ||
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Post# 880356 , Reply# 13 5/11/2016 at 16:39 (2,899 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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gearbox I imagine the gearboxes on the new GE's will have problems down the road, such as leaking extra heavy oil. I wonder what the drive system setup looks like. Is the gearbox behind a plastic or metal cover like the whirlpool/maytags? | ||
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Post# 880357 , Reply# 14 5/11/2016 at 16:40 (2,899 days old) by lotsosudz (Sacramento, CA) |
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To much like WCI | ||
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Post# 880386 , Reply# 16 5/11/2016 at 19:24 (2,899 days old) by logixx (Germany) |
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Post# 880388 , Reply# 17 5/11/2016 at 19:42 (2,899 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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maytags The Maytags have the exact same drive system as the whirlpool, yet they call it commercial grade. To me, it sounds like marketing to me. | ||
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Post# 880409 , Reply# 19 5/12/2016 at 01:53 (2,899 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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What they push on sale is usually either what they were abled to buy in cheap or what they wan't to get rid of. So in a way, yes, they compensate, but not by giving them money, but by demandimg less. | ||
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Post# 880415 , Reply# 20 5/12/2016 at 02:05 (2,899 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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| Post# 880427 , Reply# 21 5/12/2016 at 07:06 (2,899 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Post# 880434 , Reply# 22 5/12/2016 at 07:56 (2,899 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany)) |
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Listening again, it almost sounds like it's at least partly the mechanism they use to create that dual action agitator effect. Depending on the design, I guess the lid would take the edge of that sound and maybe, these wear in over time (lol who am I kidding they won't). | ||
| Post# 880436 , Reply# 23 5/12/2016 at 08:03 (2,899 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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| Post# 880438 , Reply# 24 5/12/2016 at 08:12 (2,899 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Other models...
After looking at the user manual, they also have a couple other BOL models, including a Hotpoint (HTW240) version...that one doesn't show up yet though. The cheaper GE one doesn't have a FS dispenser and the knobs are more basic.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO joeypete's LINK | ||
| Post# 880456 , Reply# 25 5/12/2016 at 12:53 (2,898 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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These honestly don't look like too bad of machines especially for the price point. Plus they was better than the Whirlpools from what I've read. | ||
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Post# 880460 , Reply# 26 5/12/2016 at 13:53 (2,898 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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GE washers I wonder how the new GE's are better than the whirlpools. | ||
| Post# 880511 , Reply# 27 5/12/2016 at 21:06 (2,898 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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My post was supposed to say that they wash better than the WP machines. That's the general consensus from sites like Reviewed.com and CR. | ||
| Post# 880628 , Reply# 28 5/13/2016 at 17:10 (2,897 days old) by Joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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So I was at Lowe's and of course stopped by the appliance section lol. The had the cheaper GE there. I peeked inside...the drum is stainless but it's smooth and not shiny. Also it has a cork screw agitator but it's not dual action...it's one piece attached to the wash plate. It also has these fins of sort on it with holes in them. What's that for??
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| Post# 880729 , Reply# 30 5/14/2016 at 10:57 (2,897 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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I do like that smooth tub much better. Looks much more upscale than the bling tub. But that agitator looks cheap! Should've made a true one piece... | ||
| Post# 880742 , Reply# 31 5/14/2016 at 12:46 (2,896 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Post# 880761 , Reply# 32 5/14/2016 at 14:49 (2,896 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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hotpoint washers It seems to me that these new GE's will be under the hotpoint brand soon. Then again, maybe they are. | ||
| Post# 880829 , Reply# 33 5/14/2016 at 21:51 (2,896 days old) by KenmoreBD (Mass, usa ) | ||
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Mmm, now don't get me wrong, I like my Hydrowave and was at first upset to learn GE was doing away with them. That wash action on the new washer makes me think twice, it seems better at low water washing then the hydrowave washers. Andy | ||
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Post# 880859 , Reply# 34 5/15/2016 at 08:59 (2,896 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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New Platform GE TL Washers These new design machines have been used in their 24" & 27" TL stack machines for at least 3 years now, and we are seeing problems with main seal leaks it destroys the bearings right away.
It is an almost impossible machine to take apart and fix when this happens due to corrosion at the tub mounting area, we fixed just two of these machines, now they all get condemned. Even a $1500.00 stack is not worth fixing. Over the last year we condemned at last two dozen of these stacks, we always advise the customer to get in touch with GE and in almost every case GE has replaced the entire machine at either no cost or sometimes at about 1/2 cost. [ they know that they have a BIG problem with these washers ] GE has also been supplying the entire suspended washer assemblies for these machines to their techs to make the repair possible in the field, but we have been unable to get these washer assemblies so we just have to condemn the entire machine.
Two weeks ago we ran into a customer that had the KM 27" stack version that was less than 3 years old with the leaking bad seal noisy bearing problem, and he had tried to get Sears to do something about it and they would not give him any help, so we installed a new 27" stack WP TT.
The full sized WP TTs easily last 18-30 years before you have serious repairs on them, the only thing better in a full size stack is the SQ FL stacks.
Keep in mind that NO TOP LOAD GE WASHER built sinse 1995 is easily repairable when it has main seal, top bearing, transmission, brake assembly failures on models that have brakes, 98% of these machines hit the scrap pile when they have problems in these areas.
Whirlpool built machines on the other hand are easy to repair when they have similar problems, the VMW machines can be a little expensive to fix but you replace the entire transmission-bearing and seal assembly in less than an hour without killing yourself.
The big exception to this is WPs 24&22" World Washers are not worth fixing when they have seal and bearing failures, these are just as bad as GE machines.
John L. | ||
| Post# 880890 , Reply# 35 5/15/2016 at 11:43 (2,896 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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So in essence these machines aren't as mechanically similar as they appear? | ||
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Post# 885075 , Reply# 36 6/14/2016 at 08:55 (2,866 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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deep rinse If I were to videotape this washer, I would use deep rinse especially if using fabric softener. | ||
| Post# 885080 , Reply# 37 6/14/2016 at 09:34 (2,866 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH) | ||
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Videotape? | ||
| Post# 900716 , Reply# 38 9/27/2016 at 21:50 (2,760 days old) by Wishwash (Indiana) | ||
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Finally found. It's about time that a better video of one of these washers appear on the internet! This one actually seems to do a decent job of washing. Too bad it makes quite a racket, which would be a deal breaker for me. CLICK HERE TO GO TO Wishwash's LINK | ||
| Post# 900839 , Reply# 39 9/28/2016 at 13:11 (2,759 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan) | ||
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Sounds like the same Celcon splutch gears Whirlpool uses, or similar. MCT Maytag Commercial Technology is only marketing. Marketing the racket, or raquetering the market? | ||
| Post# 900848 , Reply# 40 9/28/2016 at 14:10 (2,759 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago) | ||
Cynicism is great, but c'mon.
The "MCT Maytag Commercial Technology" certainly is a marketing campaign, but they DO use slightly different parts than the regular Whirlpool products. MCT parts are usually made from different metals or plastics, and with more corrosion protective coatings. Right in the specs, my Maxima washer says it has a commerical-grade corrosion resistant drain impeller. And anti-corrosion plating on the shock absorbers. Now, did they put a commercial-grade main bearing in? Most likely not. But they're NOT completely lying to customers. | ||
| Post# 900878 , Reply# 41 9/28/2016 at 16:51 (2,759 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US) | ||
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The same way KitchenAid marketed their DirectDrive Superba top-loaders back in the day. They were mechanically identical to any old Whirlpool or Kenmore DD, but an entirely different animal because of a higher quality GoldSeal three-speed motor, more effective agitator, a slightly altered (and in my opinion, more gentle and effective) wash and spin behavior, and other components made of higher-grade plastic or steel than its WP/KM sisters.
I'm not sure what is upgraded on my Bravos-Oasis 880, but in side-by-side comparison to its WP and KM equivalent, it has a much sturdier feel and look at least in all areas interacted with directly by the user. I do know it does have the same corrosion resistant drain/recirculation pumps and shock-absorbers for sure. | ||
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