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Post# 132296   5/31/2006 at 21:41 (6,532 days old) by bobbyd32l ()        

Working at Sears (in the appliance dept), I think that the WP/KM Oasis is the largest, but with all the problems that the Calypso, Neptune had, and with it being a new design, im not sure if it will be liked. I want to see what everyone thinks is the best toploader/bang for the buck?

I personally like the Oasis, but havent seen it work in action yet... but if its anything like the Harmony, then its pretty good!

Neptune TL was a joke (had one, parents HATED IT it ate our clothes and died once a week)

Calypso may have been better if it filled higher, and more bugs where worked out

GE, feels cheap, never seen one working, but seems that it would go off balance very easy

KM/WP seem to be the best but I dont like the triple action agitators

What do you guys think?





Post# 132331 , Reply# 1   6/1/2006 at 02:42 (6,532 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I'm not a fan of most new TL'ers, but I'd vote for Speed Queen. Still has slow-stroke agitation and they're quality-built. Second place: WP/KM or Fisher & Paykel. Me, I'm all about the FL'er. Won't ever go back to a TL unless Jason finds his new, agitatorless Oasis to be spectacular.

Post# 132349 , Reply# 2   6/1/2006 at 06:53 (6,532 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
I like the SQ too............

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Believe it or not I'm starting to like the Frigidaire T/L-ers more and more. Slow long arc agitation and spray rinses BEFORE AND AFTER the deep rinse. I'll accept the tub indexing, and the theoretically short life.

My newer GE top-loader does a neutral drain and has no spray rinses! It stinks with removing lint. When over-sudsed (as with Mexican detergent) it has barely spun and the motor overheated and stalled).

Center-dial Maytags are looking better and better all the time!


Post# 132370 , Reply# 3   6/1/2006 at 09:09 (6,532 days old) by designgeek ()        

Speaking of Calypso, guess what I just found?

I'd just pulled an allnighter to send out the month's invoices to clients and do the sales tax, and was heading out about 6:00AM to drive to the post office to post a bunch of checks in the mail, when I see this Big White Thing at the curb next door. A closer look shows it to be a Kenmore Elite Calypso. Minus the back cover over the electronics, but also minus any obvious signs of something having burned up. And also minus the fill hoses.

So I zip back inside, grab my hand truck, and five minutes later here it sits. In pretty good external condition, a few scratches and so on. Since I don't have a lot of space here I'm thinking of providing it to a friend who doesn't have a washer.

The question is (the questions are:-): What were the usual things that broke down on these? Or could it be that this one is probably still working but the neighbors just got a brand new washer and unceremoniously dumped this on the curb for someone like me to find? I'm going to try hooking it up tonight and seeing if it still works (should I get some new fuses for the fusebox first?), but before I do that I figured I should ask the experts.

To what degree could the microprocessor be disentangled from the basic motor controller? That is, assume we want to "hack" the machine to make it behave differently, for example by installing a programmable processor that will close relays that in turn will control various functions. Or to simplify the equation somewhat, assume we wanted to install manual switches to control each function. Is there a logical demarcation between the microprocessor in this machine and the basic control boards where that could be done? Anyone else have a go at hacking one?

If we're successful, my friend has said at various times, that he'd be interested in hacking a washer to make it programmable via a browser interface on his laptop. If one of the Calypso's problems was a tendency to use less water than it should, this should be simple enough to fix.

Or, am I totally full of poo and it's not worth fixing?


Post# 132574 , Reply# 4   6/2/2006 at 00:51 (6,531 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
My Queen's first birthday.

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My 2005 Speed-Queen laundry pair just had their 1st anniversary. All's well. They look and work like new. I suspect they'll do so for years to come....
Gosh I wanted the double-dryer.... Such a smart idea I think.


Post# 132600 , Reply# 5   6/2/2006 at 06:43 (6,531 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

If I didn't get an Oasis, I'd probably get a SQ pair. They're build like a tank and they have the long-slow agitation. The WCI/Frigidaire machines also have a long stroke/belt drive mechanism but I here they're alot of trouble.

Post# 132606 , Reply# 6   6/2/2006 at 07:47 (6,531 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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What's a double-dryer?

Post# 132613 , Reply# 7   6/2/2006 at 09:10 (6,531 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Double dryer.

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Post# 132623 , Reply# 8   6/2/2006 at 10:24 (6,531 days old) by bryan71 ()        
Toggle.....You mentioned the Frigidaire Top Load

Have you seen these machines in action? Good wash action with the dual action agitator (think they call it Twin Spin)? Lowes offers their top of the line top load at a little over 400.00.

Post# 132642 , Reply# 9   6/2/2006 at 12:50 (6,531 days old) by jimmyb (Texas Y’all)        
SQ Double Load Dryer

Speed Queen has a stacked double dryer for the home. It is a great concept. Here is a picture as well as the link. My SQ set celebrated it's first birthday in March!

jimmyb



CLICK HERE TO GO TO jimmyb's LINK


Post# 132643 , Reply# 10   6/2/2006 at 13:10 (6,531 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Have you seen these machines in action?

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Yes bought an El cheapo T/L Frigidaire for a friend's house as a hose-warming gift, gave him my used WP gas dryer.

Of course, then I was free to buy myself what I wanted. --wink--

The frigidare has grown on me! LOL


Post# 132664 , Reply# 11   6/2/2006 at 15:24 (6,531 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)        

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I think Robert has a GE Harmony and has had good things to say about it.



Post# 132740 , Reply# 12   6/2/2006 at 19:17 (6,530 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Hose-warming gift? You think of EVERYTHING, Togs.

Post# 132742 , Reply# 13   6/2/2006 at 19:23 (6,530 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Hose-warming gift. That's RICH, that is.

Post# 132841 , Reply# 14   6/3/2006 at 00:13 (6,530 days old) by bobbyd32l ()        

I have never seen a modern Frigidaire in action... Do they have the typical dual action? or is it like the WP/KM Triple that have the up/down with dual action? Any video of the Frididaire?

Post# 132901 , Reply# 15   6/3/2006 at 09:37 (6,530 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
I'm missing U.............. (you)...............

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oh Sugar Honey Iced-Tea

---blush---

HOUSE warming. The hose I had already seen. A mere slip of the finger.


Post# 132903 , Reply# 16   6/3/2006 at 09:39 (6,530 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
Any video of the Frigidaire? (top-loader)

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HMMMM what a great idea. Will do.

The one I got him was str8 vaned. Not dual-action(corkscrew).


Post# 132905 , Reply# 17   6/3/2006 at 09:58 (6,530 days old) by frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Consumer Reports reports Frigidaire washers with a straight-vaned agitator have rather poor cleaning scores. Since they consistently neglect to rate the TOL Frigidaire (which is very competitively priced and has the dual-action agitator), I have no idea if the cleaning scores show an improvement over the plain jane model.

Every once in awhile, I get the urge to pick up a TOL Frigi TL'er to use for a few months before moving on to the FL'er of my dreams. I haven't had a TL'er for years; I think it might be fun to check one out again. My sister had a MOL Frigi TL'er and her only complaint was that it would occasionally vibrate/walk across her basement floor. It lasted for years without any service calls. It stayed with the house when they moved.


Post# 133551 , Reply# 18   6/5/2006 at 23:33 (6,527 days old) by bobbyd32l ()        

I found a few videos of the Oasis!!! I dont know who they belong to but it seems that it works like the Harmony...

Enjoy!





CLICK HERE TO GO TO bobbyd32l's LINK


Post# 133552 , Reply# 19   6/5/2006 at 23:36 (6,527 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
it would occasionally vibrate/walk across her basement floor

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Personally, I'd just sit on it.

Post# 133571 , Reply# 20   6/6/2006 at 00:06 (6,527 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

Isn't the Frigidaire TL mechanism just a rehash of the the ancient White Westinghouse TL mechanism from the late 60's? If I remember correctly, they had a very anemic spin.

Post# 133644 , Reply# 21   6/6/2006 at 08:56 (6,527 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
Oh MY GOD!

Thank you Bobby for sharing the link of Oasis video but...
honestly if I had to wash my clothes in a washer like that I wouldn't so sure to get them clean at the end of cycle!
Really they stay nearly stopped in the water at the top!!! Maybe better at the bottom with the impeller action I believe but like that I think my Grandma would have disgusted to wash like so!

Horizontal axis washers I think must use the agitator to get a REALLY vigourous action to the wash load... You would prob save more water and energy without, but to this point I suggest FRONT LOADING! Those make a very "beating" action! Don't forget that in the past the wash was made on river stones!

Bye
Diomede

PS: Unless than you pretreat your stain, so it's all different! :-))


Post# 133679 , Reply# 22   6/6/2006 at 11:15 (6,527 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Too Much of Good Thing

My thought in watching the Oasis was the load was likely what the manufacturer suggests, just like advertising the Duet washing 23 bath towels.
If a "reality" load were run, we would likely see a more active turn over.
My concern, is the clack at the reverse of each disk revolution. Not only is it annoying it sounds like something mechanical is being stressed.

Jason, I purchase what I believe is the best machine of the most enduring quality. I nurture it and make every attempt to keep it looking and running like the day it was new. If you are pleased with your choice of the Oasis, then so am I. May it serve you well for years to come.

Kelly


Post# 133683 , Reply# 23   6/6/2006 at 11:23 (6,527 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
what do you think?

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I suppose if I had to buy a new Top-Loader I'd consider a TOL Maytag with a stainless-steel tub. It is after all a questionably evolved Norge isn't it?

Post# 133954 , Reply# 24   6/7/2006 at 06:07 (6,526 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
I would have to say-------

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I would have to rate them is this order
#-1 Speed Queen---This thing is built like a sherman tank!! With a SS tub and the long stroke, you can't really go wrong,plus the matching dryers rock!! Great airflow and also the top of the range dryer is also SS inside.
#-2 Kenmore/Whirlpool.Pretty much the same as each other,the Kenmore will have more creature comforts that the WP will not. They are tried and true.Easy ti get service, and 120 srokes a minute is not to bad:)
#-3 Fisher and Payke[.Thses machines are really neat and inovative.I have a Girlfriend that wore out one with five kids, so she bought another, and they are energy star rated.They have true spray rincses and a fast 1000 rpm spin. SS tub.F and P has the chioce of a top loading dryer, or the front loading dryer made by GE that will match .
I personally use a Miele for my daily driver, and love it..i wash alot of clothes If I had to buy a TL, RCZ:)



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