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Post# 884672   6/12/2016 at 07:54 (2,847 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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I need to pick some brains in here...

First off...how do you adjust the water level for these machines so that they fill higher? I'm finding that I use the Reset function quite a bit when washing blankets and towels...my machine is only the "Large" capacity so adding more water usually does the trick for larger loads, to overfill it so to speak. I've never adjusted the water level screw before....How high can the water level go too, without danger of overflowing?

Also, how many "snubbers" do they have? Mine is very squeaky on spin and I want to replace them (I think at least one is missing). They are fairly expensive so I want to make sure I order the correct amount...without having to pull it out of the closet lol.

Thanks!





Post# 884681 , Reply# 1   6/12/2016 at 08:34 (2,847 days old) by brucelucenta ()        

The fill control has a 1/4" head on the adjustment that you can screw in a little at a time till you get it where you want it. There are 4 snubbers that have two shoes on each one, as I recall.

Post# 884688 , Reply# 2   6/12/2016 at 09:08 (2,846 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for the most part, the correct water level should be close to the top of the vanes of the agitator....

Post# 884698 , Reply# 3   6/12/2016 at 11:00 (2,846 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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There is an adjustment screw on the water level control, you have to open up the control console to access the back of the WLC. On most WLCs you turn the screw CC to increase the WL, I would just turn it about a 1/2 turn at a time while the machine is full of water at the current high level, hit the reset and see how much higher it goes. You don't want to get the level too high on FF washers as you increase the chance of small items getting over the tub during pump-out.

 

  There are 8 snubber pads on your washer, they can be cleaned to elemaite noise, however if any are missing they must be replaced.


Post# 884712 , Reply# 4   6/12/2016 at 12:43 (2,846 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Thank you very much!! Which screw is it? There are 2 on mine. One is on a piece that moves when you hit the reset button and the other is just above that.

Post# 884719 , Reply# 5   6/12/2016 at 13:25 (2,846 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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well, definitely the one that moves when you turn the level switch, the other is a so-called stationary preset for the mini basket level.....

sometimes that one needs adjustment to balance the level for the mini-wash setting....usually about 7 gallons is enough to fill the basket and keep the filter flow going....too much is just a waste, not enough and the filtering will run out or the mini-basket will not fill completely.....


Post# 884722 , Reply# 6   6/12/2016 at 13:39 (2,846 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Amazing that these machines take approximately the same amount of water for the mini basket as do many front loaders to wash a tub of clothes. When we had the V-12 with the first mini basket, I would wash my mom's delicates in the mini basket with a small load in the main basket on the 1-6 pound setting. It worked very well. I realize that can't be done with the larger mini baskets.

Post# 884729 , Reply# 7   6/12/2016 at 14:02 (2,846 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Thank you again, I was able to figure it out! I did turn the wrong screw haha, so had to re-adjust for the mini basket setting. I was also originally turning it CC, but it needs to be Clockwise...I reset it and it only filled half way so that's how I figured that out! LOL.

It now fills just above the top of the vanes, which is really perfect. That allows a little gap between the bottom of the filter flo pan and the top of the water so it can drain as it's agitating. That was my other thought, if I filled it too high then using the pan wouldn't work because it would be sitting in the water...not ideal anyhow.


Post# 884735 , Reply# 8   6/12/2016 at 14:44 (2,846 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Overflow tinkle

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Just watch for overflow splash during spin drain. A small amount of water may escape through the overflow tube.

Malcolm


Post# 884740 , Reply# 9   6/12/2016 at 15:03 (2,846 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Excellent point, Malcolm.

Post# 884745 , Reply# 10   6/12/2016 at 15:50 (2,846 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Yes I figured that could be a problem lol. I was actually filling higher than where I have it now and it was fine...

Post# 884762 , Reply# 11   6/12/2016 at 17:57 (2,846 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        

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You are clearly obsessed with this GE pair.  

 

You're having way too much fun and just can't waste enough water now can you?

 

The videos, pictures, incessant questions and tweaks, yep !

 

So, yeah, you've gone over and above proving that you're a proud member of AW, and a twisted member of society in general.     ..... like most of us here.   It's all PERFECTLY NORMAL.  

 

 

As for the squeaking and missing snubber-

 Just one missing can create that noise.  If  you've ever watched the washer go into full spin with the back off, you'll have seen how the transmission support, with it's 4 corners sitting in the snubbers, vibrates and moves considerably.  

Those 4 metal blades of the transmission support, that are merely sitting between the snubbers, need to be isolated from the snubber SUPPORTs, as they too, are metal with sharp edges.  The snubbers are bakelite/asbestos/plastic material that keep them from scratching together.

 

The first picture is what you'd see with the back off and looking down below the water valve.  

The latter pictures are of some complete sets I had on Ebay in 2015.  I can't remember if they sold or, if I still have them.  If you need any, I can look to see what I have.

 

 

 

 


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Post# 884773 , Reply# 12   6/12/2016 at 19:06 (2,846 days old) by Joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Hahahaha yes Delaney I am obsessed! I'm a big tweaker (no twerking though). Lol

Thank you for all in information. I guess I will have to pull her out and take a better look to see how many are gone. I think this time I will tip it on its back to see better. When I got it, I didn't do that and it was hard to reach all the supports from the back. I actually used some gorilla tape to wrap around the supports to quiet them down lol. Now I want to do it the right way ;-)


Post# 884785 , Reply# 13   6/12/2016 at 20:07 (2,846 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest)        
ah NO !

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"I think this time I will tip it on its back to see better."

If you mean, you plan to lay the machine on it's back, NO, don't do that!

That can cause the blades to slip out from the snubbers.  

 

You have to remember- the transmission, agitator, motor, pump.... all the stuff mounted on the cross or "X" shaped inner structure with the four blades at the lower corners actually is suspended on a cable that loops along the top of the washer.  If you tip the washer too much, that can come off center and  easily knock those blades out of the snubbers.

 

Pull the machine out from the wall, remove the back, and get a good flashlight or work light so you can see.  Then you'll also appreciate "front servicability".  lol

 

Here's some other pics to help, thanks to another thread: 



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Post# 884794 , Reply# 14   6/12/2016 at 20:38 (2,846 days old) by Joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Ok cool thanks!! I wasn't planning on putting it completely flat. Just tipped a bit back to get at the front supports. Is that bad too?

Post# 884797 , Reply# 15   6/12/2016 at 20:47 (2,846 days old) by akronman (Akron/Cleveland Ohio)        
Don't tip too far

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Another GE Filter FLo problem can occur if you set it on its side or front, or back: the main boot at the bottom of the outer tub can tear loose. IF some repair does require you to tilt more than maybe 45 degrees, first pop open the lid of the machine and stuff pillows or something all through the cavity between the inner and outer tub so that the inner tub stays pretty closely in place while the machine is on its side.


also, with your snubber issues, be sure to get a few drops of light turbine oil on the rollers and any wire guides for that suspension system, it's helped me quiet more than one GE FF.

They are great washers!


Post# 889609 , Reply# 16   7/16/2016 at 15:13 (2,812 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        
Weird....

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So all of a sudden when the load size is on Large, the water is filling higher than what I set it at, but when it goes into the rinse, it's at the level I adjusted to. What the heck is going on with that??

Post# 889633 , Reply# 17   7/16/2016 at 17:43 (2,812 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you just got sort of an air lock in the air dome......

most times, after working on a filter-flo....its recommended to put it into 'spin' for a minute or two before starting a cycle....

especially after tilting a machine, or working on any part of the pressure hose...

you made it through a spin and rinse, you should be good to go from now.....just something to keep in the back of your mind for next time.....


Post# 889647 , Reply# 18   7/16/2016 at 19:00 (2,812 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Ok cool...I'll see next time. Though I did 2 loads today and 1 earlier in the week and it did that all times.

Post# 889678 , Reply# 19   7/17/2016 at 06:24 (2,812 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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that is odd to do it over and over....and especially only in the wash portion....

try taking the pressure hose off from up top, blow into it, reassemble and then do the spin portion and see how you make out.....


only thing other than that is the pressure switch is going whacky....


Post# 889685 , Reply# 20   7/17/2016 at 07:19 (2,812 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Ok cool thanks! Is the pressure switch the water level switch?

Post# 889836 , Reply# 21   7/18/2016 at 08:55 (2,811 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, one in the same.....

Post# 945882 , Reply# 22   6/29/2017 at 14:10 (2,464 days old) by barcoboy (Canada)        

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Sorry to resurrect an old flame.

A while ago I adjusted my Filter Flo pressure switch to get it to fill on high to the proper level, and now it fills perfectly. The problem is, I don't remember which of the adjustments I played with.

Now I want to adjust the level of the mini basket fill, so I need to know which adjustment to turn as I don't want to mess up the high setting.

Attached is a picture of my pressure switch.


Post# 945889 , Reply# 23   6/29/2017 at 15:21 (2,464 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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turn your water level switch....the one that DOESN'T move is for the mini basket...

you only need 7+/- gallons for the minibasket....anything more is just a waste...just enough to fill the basket, and keep the water flowing!


Post# 945893 , Reply# 24   6/29/2017 at 15:31 (2,464 days old) by barcoboy (Canada)        

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That's why I'm confused and why I'm posting... the screws do not move. The plate behind them does.

There is more movement behind the left hand screw (the one in the center of the switch) than the right hand one though.


Post# 945961 , Reply# 25   6/30/2017 at 06:46 (2,464 days old) by joeypete (Concord, NH)        

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Oh man I don't remember which one it was, sorry. I adjusted the wrong one first, I know that! haha

Post# 945986 , Reply# 26   6/30/2017 at 09:08 (2,463 days old) by barcoboy (Canada)        

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I think it is the one on the left I need to adjust, as I think the one on the right is the one I adjusted the last time for the high water level setting, as I screwed it in several turns to get the level up to the correct setting, and you can see that one is screwed in further than the center one.

I just don't want to waste water trying to figure it out, and of course I just finished all of my laundry before deciding to adjust this!


Post# 946033 , Reply# 27   6/30/2017 at 14:08 (2,463 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, my pressure switches don't look like that....

but I was going to say it looked like the screw on the left side had not been tampered with as the black wax was still intact, compared to the other one....

the worst case, is to back them both off, and start all over....and re-setting both at the same time....and label them for next time...



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